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    You are right, I forgot that the pawn is still on h5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    Yep...black was too focused on ''playing for win''
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    Women's Challenger chooses pawn ending in preference to unpleasant queen ending but the pawn ending is completely lost

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    This position from tonight's TCA tournament rather cruelly underlines the theme because instead of exchanging into a pure pawn ending white could have taken a free queen.

    But it's an interesting one to analyse. Black (to move) has the advantages of a king closer to the action and also (if it is an advantage) two slightly more advanced pawns. But is it enough for a win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    This position from tonight's TCA tournament rather cruelly underlines the theme because instead of exchanging into a pure pawn ending white could have taken a free queen. But it's an interesting one to analyse. Black (to move) has the advantages of a king closer to the action and also (if it is an advantage) two slightly more advanced pawns. But is it enough for a win?
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    Based on a quick analysis, I think White's in big trouble. Black's king goes to c4, and White's has to go to c2 to protect the a-pawn. Black then plays e4, and still has a spare tempo with a4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    But it's an interesting one to analyse. Black (to move) has the advantages of a king closer to the action and also (if it is an advantage) two slightly more advanced pawns. But is it enough for a win?
    It appears to be a forced win for black but the path is narrow - black must run the king immediately to a4, then play ...e4. Now from this point unless white is very careful black will simply advance on the kingside and break through, but even white's best resistance appears to lead to a line where both sides queen but black comes out with two pawns to none, with a tablebase win.

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    If black tries to clamp white with a4 and e4 reaching this position with white to move:

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    then f3 for white draws, with the point that 39...f5 40.f4! is a win for white.

    (I had to post this as a PGN with a move included, it wasn't working as an FEN for whatever reason.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    If black tries to clamp white with a4 and e4 reaching this position with white to move:

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    then f3 for white draws, with the point that 39...f5 40.f4! is a win for white.

    (I had to post this as a PGN with a move included, it wasn't working as an FEN for whatever reason.)
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    By the way, what happens after 46. Kc3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelgiusfan5000 View Post
    By the way, what happens after 46. Kc3?
    Nevermind just a simple win. White will be forced to play a4, black then gets his king to e5, plays f5, exf5, ke2, ke6
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    There are some tricks after 46.Kc3. Black must play ...Kd6 and then if 47.Kd4 must play ...Ke6. Then if 48.a4 black must play ...f6. This could a few moves later end up in this position:

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    and now another only move of sorts ...Ke6! taking the long opposition (some other moves allow repetition to reach the same position but black has to find ...Ke6 eventually.)
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    Would be nice to allow ...Kxa3 and somehow take the opposition on c3 and keep the king trapped there. Can't seem to find a way to make it work though.
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    The pawn endgame is a great training exercise!
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    as I like excitement in my games with this endgame I would be tempted to capture white A pawn if possible without repetition whilst letting White king digest a few of my backward pawns. then hopefully mate with queen and king??? Hopefully also using white and black pawns to help with the mate. Very dangerous and cut throat. I wouldn't teach students that though.
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