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    Rapid and blitz rating lists


    The Executive Board meeting in Krakow approved the launch of "Rapid" and "Blitz" rating lists in 2012. We hope that all federations will take note of the regulations regarding these lists, and that they will ensure that tournament organisers in their nations are informed, as well as encouraging them to register their rapid and blitz events for FIDE rating.

    It is hoped that tournaments of all standards will be submitted, not just those of a high level. It will be possible for players without any current FIDE rating to enter the rapidplay or blitz list by playing games against rated opponents. All FIDE rating fees for these events will be waived during 2012. The framework of the new lists will be as follows:

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    sniff sniff

    I smell money grabbing opportunities for FIDE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trent Parker
    sniff sniff

    I smell money grabbing opportunities for FIDE!

    And don't forget to mention the final paragraph of the article suggested by Mr Banda

    Quote Originally Posted by FIDE's framework of the new lists
    Decisions concerning any charges for either tournaments or players from 1st January 2013 will be made at the FIDE Congress in Istanbul in 2012. Federations are reminded that it will be possible to remove players from the new lists if the financial burden causes them too many problems.
    That's for those who hurriedly interpreted the move as a triumph of FIDE over local authorities!

    ed. emphasis mine
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaK
    And don't forget to mention the final paragraph of the article suggested by Mr Banda



    That's for those who hurriedly interpreted the move as a triumph of FIDE over local authorities!

    ed. emphasis mine
    Does this imply that FIDE will bill players direct for the charges rather than billing national federations. It hardly seems likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denis_Jessop
    Does this imply that FIDE will bill players direct for the charges rather than billing national federations. It hardly seems likely.

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    No, it implies that FIDE might bill players through national federations according to new standards of charges and ways of payment.

    this paragraph

    Quote Originally Posted by FIDE's framework of the new lists
    Decisions concerning any charges for either tournaments or players from 1st January 2013 will be made at the FIDE Congress in Istanbul in 2012. Federations are reminded that it will be possible to remove players from the new lists if the financial burden causes them too many problems.
    does not leave many other avenues of interpretation open does it?

    I mean to "remove" which players from which "lists"? and what could that "financial burden" be if not the result of the introduction of some new ways of revenue generation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denis_Jessop
    Does this imply that FIDE will bill players direct for the charges rather than billing national federations. It hardly seems likely.
    On my interpretation it means that if a decision to bill federations for rapid and blitz ratings is made, it is possible that billing could be based on the number of rated players, or it is possible rates could be levied per rated tournament.

    Quote Originally Posted by JaK
    No, it implies that FIDE might bill players through national federations according to new standards of charges and ways of payment.
    Billing federations per player is not the same thing as billing players through their federations. And federations won't bill individual players for their FIDE ratings as it is much too tedious to collect and chase up; charging a fee per tournament or finding other ways to fund the costs is much easier.

    Note also that proposals to devolve charging for events and titles to organisers and applicants instead of federations were dropped from the Events Commission agenda in Krakow without even being discussed, presumably because of negative feedback.

    I can say that based on the discussions in Krakow I would not assume rapid/blitz ratings will remain free for long. FIDE wants them to be free initially to encourage federations to rate many tournaments to build a firm statistical base for the new system.
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    So the "them" is a reference to national federations, not individual players. That makes (common) sense.

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