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    Religious education in State schools

    Have a look at what is being served up in SRE classes in some NSW state schools:

    http://mike-stuchbery.com/2011/06/18...educated-kids/

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    Thanks pax that was gold.
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    I find it pretty frightening actually. Especially this:

    "2. Kids are Lost. All have turned their back on God and deserve eternal condemnation in Hell. High School SRE is unashamed of this fact, and does not hesitate to teach it."

    In state schools!?!

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    Yes I agree entirely very scary but surely he is so fundamental that moderate parents would complain about such material in a state scripture material.

    I had a little poke around his website and all of it is pretty off-the-wall but I thought the page on the Boy-Man (or "ban") was comedy gold and stands to defy satire.

    http://www.capstoneliving.org/stay-ban-boyman/

    With "useful" advice like if you believe you are a ban and in a relationship with a girl then make plans to marry her soon or break up. It's funny that the advice to the female half of the relationship is different. According to Tim if you are a girl dating a "ban", then dump him. Full stop. End of story.

    Of course it also paints the picture that all unmarried men are into video games and porn. And playing more than 2 hours of video games a week is somehow a problem that needs to be addressed by cutting back, telling an older christian and "praying hard".
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    Bizarre stuff. NSW as well. *sigh* I already despaired of the Vic version here: http://chesschat.org/showthread.php?t=12943
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    Yes I agree entirely very scary but surely he is so fundamental that moderate parents would complain about such material in a state scripture material.

    I had a little poke around his website and all of it is pretty off-the-wall but I thought the page on the Boy-Man (or "ban") was comedy gold and stands to defy satire.

    http://www.capstoneliving.org/stay-ban-boyman/

    With "useful" advice like if you believe you are a ban and in a relationship with a girl then make plans to marry her soon or break up. It's funny that the advice to the female half of the relationship is different. According to Tim if you are a girl dating a "ban", then dump him. Full stop. End of story.

    Of course it also paints the picture that all unmarried men are into video games and porn. And playing more than 2 hours of video games a week is somehow a problem that needs to be addressed by cutting back, telling an older christian and "praying hard".
    Not quite what the website says about video gaming.
    Quote Originally Posted by http://www.capstoneliving.org/stay-ban-boyman/
    If you’re into video games, have a few guidelines for your play (like an hour or two a week) and ask your friends to keep you accountable.
    If you’re into porn, get help. Join a church, tell an older Christian, and pray hard.
    So it is porn not gaming that he recommends telling an older Christian and to pray hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Colliver
    So it is porn not gaming that he recommends telling an older Christian and to pray hard.
    Yeah, whatever. Either way it is hilarious stuff.
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    So if you're a "ban" who's "into porn" you should get help and "Join a church, tell an older Christian, and pray hard." and if you're a "lady" who is single and wants a man who will love you, you should "join a church, tell an older Christian, and pray hard."

    I'm guessing that once the formerly porn-loving ex-ban becomes a Christian the older Christian can marry the two of them off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    Yeah, whatever. Either way it is hilarious stuff.
    No it is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    So if you're a "ban" who's "into porn" you should get help and "Join a church, tell an older Christian, and pray hard." and if you're a "lady" who is single and wants a man who will love you, you should "join a church, tell an older Christian, and pray hard."

    I'm guessing that once the formerly porn-loving ex-ban becomes a Christian the older Christian can marry the two of them off.
    The perfect love story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    I'm guessing that once the formerly porn-loving ex-ban becomes a Christian the older Christian can marry the two of them off.
    And I'm guessing a significant market share of internet porn is consumed by older christians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Colliver
    No it is not.
    De gustibus non est disputandum.
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    I think the stuff that is being taught is perfectly okay to be taught in a church not in a state school. From what I have looked at it seems to me to be quite normal Christian teaching and although my beliefs differ significantly from some being put forward I do not see why it should not be taught in the right place. I think students should be taught what religions are out there, but not taught that they should believe or not believe any one religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    De gustibus non est disputandum.
    And you mean???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Colliver
    And you mean???????
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_gust...st_disputandum
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