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    Charities ÷ self perpetuating?

    Do many charities look at the whole picture? The Save the Children Fund when pulling at our empathy buttons advertise that 15,000 children die needlessly each day. That is one child every 5 seconds.

    They don't also ask whether 15,000 children were needlesdly conceived and born every day.

    The situation is like a dog chasing it's tail. And when all those excess children mature they will require more resources that will further exacerbate environmental and social problems. Most recent wars can be linked to the necessity for more resources.

    Eventually those 15,000 children per day become 5.5m per annum. Within 30 years they may have produced another 35m children. So over 30 years that extra 15k per day multiplies to about a billion extra people requiring more resources. Then that billion begin the same process and our planet and peace is shot.

    But conservatives who advocate balanced budgets are opposed to a balanced environment.
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    Educating girls is the most powerful thing which can be done to lower the birth rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Colliver View Post
    Educating girls is the most powerful thing which can be done to lower the birth rate.
    As well as raising standards of living.

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    As that is also a political act that has opposition and consequences a more simple and direct response is to provide free birth control measures that often cannot be afforded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b.nancarrow View Post
    As well as raising standards of living.
    Which requires either more resources or a form of equality or socialism. That are also a political battle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    Which requires either more resources or a form of equality or socialism. That are also a political battle.
    As in India and China?

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    Quote Originally Posted by b.nancarrow View Post
    As in India and China?
    Far from perfect examples for sure. Interesting they both attempted birth control with very mixed results. Many young couples are unilaterally deciding to restrict breeding due to the calamitous state of the world. But unfortunately they are a tiny minority
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    Do many charities look at the whole picture?
    Would be nice if they stopped employing pushy muppets to annoying shoppers going about their business in westfields.
    So what's your excuse? For running like the devil's chasing you?

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post
    Would be nice if they stopped employing pushy muppets to annoying shoppers going about their business in westfields.
    Because they are on commission I don't donate. Or they want perpetual donations - no thanks. I stopped donating to environmental groups due to that.
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    Government programs are far more self-perpetuating than charities

    This thread is majoring on minors. A far greater problem is what Reagan said:

    No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth!

    One reason a government program is far worse than a charity is that donations are coerced rather than voluntary. So there is no incentive to use money wisely. In fact, there is an incentive to grow the bureaucracy and increase spending, because this increases the power and salary of the leading bureaucrats.
    “The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty.”
    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    This thread is majoring on minors. A far greater problem is what Reagan said:
    No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth!
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    As one of the highest spending Presidents, Reagan should know what he's talking about!

    But antichrist was making a completely different point, of course. And while he has a legitimate concern, the problem is being solved, with world population growth halving over the last forty years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    As one of the highest spending Presidents, Reagan should know what he's talking about!

    But antichrist was making a completely different point, of course. And while he has a legitimate concern, the problem is being solved, with world population growth halving over the last forty years.
    Consider how much damage has been inflicted on the environment in the past forty years by those extra souls all desiring First World conditions. As well all the pain inflicted on that extra population being refugees and deprived of decent food, shelter and clothing - including even Americans.

    Massive amounts still spent on armaments that could probably "solve" the human problem. Those armaments are a result if competition for resources - the world and well as those charities are chasing their tails with a big cracker up their bum.
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    Stats could be done on the raw numbers of children suffering and dying now from neglect now compared to forty years ago. If current numbers are greater then we are heading in the wrong direction - we are creating more victims by being caring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    Stats could be done on the raw numbers of children suffering and dying now from neglect now compared to forty years ago. If current numbers are greater then we are heading in the wrong direction - we are creating more victims by being caring.
    Children are dying from malnutrition or freezing to death in Yemen and Jordan and Syria. Are those deaths caused by neglect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
    Stats could be done on the raw numbers of children suffering and dying now from neglect now compared to forty years ago. If current numbers are greater then we are heading in the wrong direction - we are creating more victims by being caring.
    Those stats are not hard to find, and demonstrate the opposite. In 1990, the number of births was about 140 million, while the infant mortality rate was 64 per 100 000 live births; 2020 had the same number of births, but the infant mortality rate had dropped dramatically to 28 per 100 000.

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