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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Old Age Pension is clearly Socialism if it is given not based on age alone but based on Age + Financial Status!
    Means testing is socialism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Capablanca-Fan thinks the old age pension and universal higher education is 'socialism'
    Notice the usual leftist evasion of the historical fact that the National Socialists really were socialists not right-wingers.
    “The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty.”
    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...re-socialists/

    The Nazis hated socialists. It was the governments that rebuilt Europe that embraced social welfare programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Notice the usual leftist evasion of the historical fact that the National Socialists really were socialists not right-wingers.
    Who cares about tags. Lithuanian Jews were murdered by the Soviets because they were capitalists. And Lithuanian Jews
    were murdered by the NAZIS because they were communist collaborators.

    In both circumstances they were adapting to their relevant situation.

    The NAZIS were a perversion of socialism because they didn't accept internationalism. Nationalism was their perversion.
    Zionism is racism as defined by the UN, Israel by every dirty means available steals land and water, kill Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians, and operates an apartheid system to drive more Palestinians off their land

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    Means testing is socialism
    Taking from the ''rich'' and giving to the ''poor'' even though both often deserve to be where they are in life...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    Taking from the ''rich'' and giving to the ''poor'' even though both often deserve to be where they are in life...
    That's not how means testing works But if you favour a universal benefit, without restrictions, then you are clearly a socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Notice the usual leftist evasion of the historical fact that the National Socialists really were socialists not right-wingers.
    If supporting an old age pension makes one a socialist, then Reagan was a socialist. Do you agree with that? If not, my argument works as a reductio ad absurdum, destroying yours.

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    Betraying the Cuban People, Again
    by Chris Farrell, Gatestone Institute, 2 Aug 2021

    • Everyone knows that Biden's hollow platitudes are utterly meaningless. "The United States stands with..." what, exactly, does that mean? What does "stands with" look like?
    • Here is the ugly truth: Biden does not care a damn about the Cuban people throwing off 60+ years of communism. Cubans are holding the largest anti-government rallies in decades. American media coverage has been near zero. Half of Biden's White House staff probably does not understand what the president means by "repression," admires Fidel and Raul Castro, and can be found wearing Che Guevara T-shirts on the weekends.
    • Cuban President and First Secretary of the Communist Party Miguel Díaz-Canel could order the machine-gunning of every protestor on the streets of Havana and the Biden administration would do nothing. Well, perhaps they might take the "strong action" of two weeks ago and sanction ONE Cuban government official, followed by the "stunning" sanctioning of TWO additional Cuban police officials. Díaz-Canel actually condemned protestors looking for food, calling them "counter-revolutionary mercenaries."
    • Meanwhile, over on Capitol Hill, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Squad are advocating for programs and policies right out of the Cuban Communist Party's playbook. They actually want the power outages, rationed medical care and food shortages ordinary Cubans are protesting against. Their militant ideology and policy proposals fit right into the anti-American, Marxist "Critical FILL-IN-THE-BLANK Theory" concepts taught from the Frankfurt School.
    • Under the Biden administration, the Cuban people will be ignored by the United States, again, as they have been for 60+ years. It is a horror for America -- with brutal, bloody consequences for the innocent people that continue to hold out hope that America will finally help.
    “The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty.”
    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    Betraying the Cuban People, Again
    by Chris Farrell, Gatestone Institute, 2 Aug 2021
    The Gatestone Institute.
    Last edited by Socrates; 04-08-2021 at 03:28 PM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socrates View Post
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