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[antichrist]

In any case how many radical student activists remain radical activists in middle age?

I am the idiot who has

[Capablanca-Fan]

I am the idiot who has

Even worse, you and Ian Murray have retained juvenile leftardism way past middle age.

[Goughfather]

Even worse, you and Ian Murray have retained juvenile leftardism way past middle age.

I can understand your aggression towards me, given that I'm quite prepared to respond in kind, but why do you have to be so rude towards Ian Murray, who has been nothing but a perfect gentleman in these discussions?

[Capablanca-Fan]

I can understand your aggression towards me, given that I'm quite prepared to respond in kind,

You don't just respond, hypocrite, but are rude to anyone with a sensible conservative libertarian view, since it challenges your faith in big government by elitists who can spend money better than the people who earned it could.

but why do you have to be so rude towards Ian Murray, who has been nothing but a perfect gentleman in these discussions?

I have a different recollection, but what's with this new-found selective sensitivity anyway?

[TheJoker]

conservative libertarian view

Isn't that an oxymoron for you, given that conservatism means maintaining the status quo, and you seem to feel that the status quo is anything but libertarian

[Goughfather]

You don't just respond, hypocrite, but are rude to anyone with a sensible conservative libertarian view,

By all means, provide a quote from me where I have been rude to anyone who has identified as a "conservative libertarian" and has not already been rude to me or to others and I will gladly apologise. Otherwise, retract.

since it challenges your faith in big government by elitists who can spend money better than the people who earned it could.

I refuse to accept your strawperson representation of me. By all means, provide a quote from me that demonstrates this faith in big government that you attribute to me. Otherwise, retract.

I have a different recollection, but what's with this new-found selective sensitivity anyway?

I can honestly say that I have made every effort to treat those who discuss matters on these threads in a congenial manner with the same kind of respect that they extend towards me. Of course, you're perfectly entitled to act like a jerk towards all and sundry; my only question is why you would choose to do so.

[Igor_Goldenberg]

By all means, provide a quote from me where I have been rude to anyone who has identified as a "conservative libertarian" and has not already been rude to me or to others and I will gladly apologise. Otherwise, retract.

Are you actually saying that your claim of someone "been rude to others" excuses your own rudeness?

[ER]

Are you actually saying that your claim of someone "been rude to others" excuses your own rudeness?

I think he says "you 'll be treated as you treat"!
Something I don't suggest or (wholeheartedly) support since it cost me 200 hours community service!
Moral: Be more ... discreet when you do it next time!

[antichrist]

Even worse, you and Ian Murray have retained juvenile leftardism way past middle age.

But I managed to drop my juvenile belief in God whilst a teenager whereas you have kept yours until mid-age, already people are looking sideways at you.

[Capablanca-Fan]

But I managed to drop my juvenile belief in God whilst a teenager whereas you have kept yours until mid-age, already people are looking sideways at you.

More likely, your idea of God is the juvenile belief from Sunday school rather than the God of the Bible. In my case, I didn't have a juvenile belief in God but converted as a uni student.

[Capablanca-Fan]

By all means, provide a quote from me where I have been rude to anyone who has identified as a "conservative libertarian" and has not already been rude to me or to others and I will gladly apologise.

You attacked me first in your usual Anointed style of presupposed but demonstrably false air of intellectual superiority. You attacked IG first as well.

I refuse to accept your strawperson representation of me. By all means, provide a quote from me that demonstrates this faith in big government that you attribute to me.

Your gloating at the downfall of the Coalition with its allegedly dry conservatism, at a time when KRudd was gleefully squandering our money on botched insulation and school building schemes.

I can honestly say that I have made every effort to treat those who discuss matters on these threads in a congenial manner with the same kind of respect that they extend towards me. Of course, you're perfectly entitled to act like a jerk towards all and sundry; my only question is why you would choose to do so.

Leading question, just as expected from an Anointed lawyer-type.

[Capablanca-Fan]

Isn't that an oxymoron for you, given that conservatism means maintaining the status quo, and you seem to feel that the status quo is anything but libertarian

I have likewise made the point that the label "conservative", generally applied to people like me, is misleading, since there are many things I don't want to conserve.

[Goughfather]

You attacked me first in your usual Anointed style of presupposed but demonstrably false air of intellectual superiority. You attacked IG first as well.

I asked for a quote that demonstrates the veracity of your slur, not for a bald assertion.

Your gloating at the downfall of the Coalition with its allegedly dry conservatism, at a time when KRudd was gleefully squandering our money on botched insulation and school building schemes.

Again, I asked for a quote. Please read more carefully before responding.

Leading question, just as expected from an Anointed lawyer-type.

Considering the way that you flaunt your qualifications, even to speak in areas where you are not remotely qualified, it's somewhat hypocritical of you to accuse me of being an "Anointed lawyer-type".

[antichrist]

More likely, your idea of God is the juvenile belief from Sunday school rather than the God of the Bible. In my case, I didn't have a juvenile belief in God but converted as a uni student.

then that is worse still, coz you were then much mature and should not have accepted such rubbish. By that age I was already an atheist. Gee, I leave you for dead. But I still love you.

[Igor_Goldenberg]

Here Goughfather is repeatedly insisting on a quote being provided to him

I asked for a quote that demonstrates the veracity of your slur, not for a bald assertion.

Again, I asked for a quote. Please read more carefully before responding.

Here Goughfather response to request of a quote:

Would you be so kind to provide the link to the Howard's post that would justify calling him "shameless apologists"?

No I would not. I've explained why this is the case a number of times. If you are unable to comprehend this, then that's not my problem.