OK better late than never. I Just noticed my mate from my youth, Bob Wansink, made it into active list top 50 at a very respectable rating. Good to see him active again. Excellent endings player.Originally Posted by Qbert
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OK better late than never. I Just noticed my mate from my youth, Bob Wansink, made it into active list top 50 at a very respectable rating. Good to see him active again. Excellent endings player.Originally Posted by Qbert
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Oh ok thanks Qbert! Cheers!Originally Posted by Qbert
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Clubs in the top 50:
WE = Wellington, CA = Canterbury, MM = Mount Maunganui, AC = Auckland, OT = Otago, HP = Howick-Pakuranga, UH = Upper Hutt, GA = Gambit, NS = North Shore, NP = New Plymouth, HA = Hamilton, PT = Papatoetoe and WA = Wanganui.
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Here is the list of the top 50 active standard-rated players for period 3 of 2011.
The top three are unchanged with NZ Champion IM Anthony Ker ahead of clubmate IM Russell Dive and IM Ben Martin. Scott Wastney and Nic Croad move up three places each to fourth and fifth, giving Wellington four of the top five. That should settle any debate on which club is the strongest. Big movers are NZ Junior Champion Luke Li up 11 places to 13th, John Duneas up 16 to 20th, Noel Pinic up 8 to 22nd and John McDonald up 7 to 43rd. Ben Hague is in 10th place, after NZCF gave the all-clear for him to be included on the rating list. New entries include Quentin Johnson at 27 and Richard Stuart at 30. Robert Wansink is still provisionally rated so is not included in the top 50. He will become established in the next period and most likely will be in the top 20.
Code:1 (unc) KER AF WE 2492 2 (unc) DIVE RJ WE 2440 3 (unc) MARTIN BMS CA 2431 4 (+ 3) WASTNEY S WE 2367 5 (+ 3) CROAD N WE 2357 6 (unc) SMITH RW MM 2354 7 (+ 3) STEADMAN MVR AC 2348 8 (+ 1) GARBETT PA NS 2343 9 (+ 2) LUKEY SG CA 2337 10 (+ 2) HAGUE B PN 2329 11 (+ 2) MCLAREN LJ HP 2317 12 (+ 2) WATSON BR AC 2314 13 (+11) LI L HP 2305 14 (+ 1) NOBLE MF PN 2300 15 (+ 2) HART R NS 2260 16 (+ 1) SUTHERLAND JL OT 2255 17 (+ 5) HAN D AC 2251 18 (+ 1) THOMAS B UH 2244 19 (+ 4) SHEN D AC 2243 20 (+16) DUNEAS J MM 2226 21 (- 1) THORNTON GA NS 2222 22 (+ 8) PINIC N MM 2220 23 (+ 3) NIJMAN B WE 2206 24 (- 4) KRSTEV A NS 2205 25 (unc) WHEELER B AC 2199 26 (+ 2) ANSELL A NP 2198 27 (new) JOHNSON Q OT 2189 28 (- 1) DOWDEN RA OT 2188 29 (unc) VAN DER HOORN MW WE 2183 30 (new) STUART R AC 2172 31 (+ 2) DORDEVIC I NS 2164 32 (- 1) KRSTEV M NS 2157 33 (- 1) BARLOW MJ NS 2151 34 (unc) LAMONT I OT 2146 35 (unc) TURNER MG WE 2144 36 (+ 1) MACHDOEM KA CA 2130 37 (unc) BROWNE JA HA 2129 38 (+ 1) MARNER G WE 2128 39 (+ 3) GIBBONS RE PT 2125 40 (unc) BENNETT HP HA 2122 (+ 3) HILL M WE 2122 42 (+ 2) QI C CA 2121 43 (+ 3) BURNS CJ PN 2119 (+ 7) MCDONALD JA PN 2119 (+ 3) MCNABB MD CA 2119 46 (+ 3) POMEROY AJ WE 2114 47 (new) MCCRONE J NS 2097 (new) WILSON J WE 2097 49 (new) MILLIGAN H NS 2092 50 (new) MAROROA SY HP 2089
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you have a very good point about wellington chess club been top in new zealand on rating
But as we all know this means nothing if they can't win 1 event in a year so just like the mighty all blacks who have been the top rated rugby side for 28 years and only 2 world cups to show for it.
also remeber about 6 years ago you gave all currant active players some 100 rating point gain for some reason have no idea what that was about and why.
just some points i have right or wrong.
Cheers Mark
Not quite sure what you mean by winning one event in a year. Here is a list of the tournaments from 2009 to 2011 where Wellington chess club players have done just that. I'm sure that this will continue in 2012.Originally Posted by Walden
Code:2009: 1. IM Anthony Ker 1st NZ player and NZ Champion in Queenstown Classic 2. IM Anthony Ker 1st NZ player and NZ Champion in NZ Rapid Championship. 3. IM Russell Dive 1st North Island. 4. Nic Croad 1st South Island and 1st= South Island Rapid. 5. Ross Jackson 2nd All-Canterbury behind GM Gawain Jones. 6. IM Anthony Ker 1st Gordon Hoskyn Memorial. 7. IM Anthony Ker 1st Kapiti Open. 2010: 1. IM Anthony Ker 1st NZ Championship. Nic Croad 2nd. 2. Nic Croad 1st NZ Rapid Championship. 3. Nic Croad 1st= Wellington Open Rapid with GM Gawain Jones. 4. IM Anthony Ker 2nd Wellington Open behind GM Gawain Jones. 5. IM Russell Dive 2nd= Waitakere Trust Open behind GM Gawain Jones. 6. IM Anthony Ker and IM Russell Dive 1st= Kapiti Open. 2011: 1. IM Anthony Ker 1st NZ Championship. 2. IM Anthony Ker 1st NZ Rapid Championship. 3. Scott Wastney 1st Upper Hutt Rapid. 4. Scott Wastney 1st South Island Rapid.
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cool Rowan happy to see Wellington doing so well maybe I have missed the last 4 tourney results or something but i guess that is another story
ohhh BTW second is not winning
Cheers Mark
Actually, a change to the ratings system was approved by NZCF in July 2009. This saw the implementation of intermediate ratings. While ratings did increase, the increases were hardly of the magnitude of 100 points for all players! In fact, the higher a player's rating was before the change, the fewer points the player gained.Originally Posted by Walden
The following report was published in the NZ Chess magazine.
Arpad Elo wrote in his book, The Rating of Chessplayers: “An underrated player truly victimizes his opponents regardless of the outcome of the game. A difference between actual strength and indicated rating can result in each opponent losing points, undeservedly. The loss may not be great at any one time but small losses could accumulate into significant amounts.”
Over the past few years, there has been a gradual decline in the distribution of the rating pool of approximately 10%. At the same time, the number of juniors has increased significantly. In period 3 of 2006, there were 213 juniors, in period 3 of 2009, there are 437 juniors in the active rating pool. Juniors usually start with a low rating because they play in low-rated junior tournaments. Most will improve and some will improve significantly, sometimes even in a single rating period.
To counteract this deflation, intermediate ratings for players with exceptional performances have been introduced. There are now four phases in the rating calculation. Phase 1 calculates ratings for unrated and provisionally rated players while phase 2 calculates ratings for established players. Players with an exceptional performance (bonus point gain) in phase 2, get an intermediate rating that equals the pre-period rating plus the basic rating points change. Phases 3 and 4 are repeats of 1 and 2, this time using the intermediate ratings for a player’s opponents.
Using intermediate ratings significantly reduces the negative impact that underrated players have had on the rating pool. The new calculation has been applied retroactively. The cumulative rating point changes therefore have resulted in the sizable increases in ratings for this period.
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One point you did get rightOriginally Posted by Walden
. I included 2nd where the winner was an overseas GM!
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Yes, I don't think very many people doubt Anthony deserves to be NZ's No. 1 rated player at present!Originally Posted by CivicChessMan
Fischer visiting Tal in hospital - Curaçao 1962
"You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one." - Mikhail Tal
"My favourite piece is the one that wins" - Bobby Fischer
Here is the list of the top 50 active standard-rated players for period 1 of 2012.
No change in the top five although the gap between Anthony Ker and Russell Dive has narrowed considerably. 2012 NZ Champion Mike Steadman moves up one place to 6th. Robert Wansink debuts at 19th while Noel Pinic continues his climb up the rankings, up 7 places to 15th. Hans Gao, Scott Yang and Peter Stuart are also new top 50 entries.
Code:1 (unc) 3383AM KER, ANTHONY F WE 2451 2 (unc) 3459AM DIVE, RUSSELL J WE 2440 3 (unc) 3552AM MARTIN, BENJAMIN M S CA 2431 4 (unc) 3830AM WASTNEY, SCOTT WE 2372 5 (unc) 5083AM CROAD, NICHOLAS WE 2357 6 (+ 1) 3201AM STEADMAN, MICHAEL V R AC 2353 7 (- 1) 3088AM SMITH, ROBERT W MM 2347 8 (unc) 3002SM GARBETT, PAUL A NS 2345 9 (+ 1) 8070AM HAGUE, BEN AC 2340 10 (- 1) 3696AM LUKEY, STEPHEN G CA 2324 11 (+ 1) 3206AM WATSON, BRUCE R AC 2323 12 (- 1) 3314AM MCLAREN, LEONARD J HP 2317 13 (unc) 7155JM LI, LUKE (ZUHAO) HP 2308 14 (unc) 3255AM NOBLE, MARK F PN 2300 15 (+ 7) 7311AM PINIC, NOEL MM 2267 16 (- 1) 3507UM HART, RALPH NS 2260 17 (+ 1) 5599SM THOMAS, BENJAMIN UH 2254 18 (- 1) 5349AM HAN, DANIEL AC 2246 19 (new) 3009AM WANSINK, ROBERT OT 2245 20 (- 4) 3454AM SUTHERLAND, JOHN L OT 2237 21 (- 2) 6142JM SHEN, DANIEL AC 2234 22 (- 2) 7039AM DUNEAS, JOHN MM 2224 23 (- 2) 5620AM THORNTON, GINO A NS 2222 24 (+ 2) 6360JM ANSELL, ALAN NP 2207 25 (- 1) 5104AM KRSTEV, ANTONIO NS 2205 26 (- 3) 3394UM NIJMAN, BRIAN WE 2199 (- 1) 3394UM WHEELER, BRUCE AC 2199 28 (unc) 3148AM DOWDEN, R ANTHONY OT 2188 29 (+ 2) 5142AM DORDEVIC, IVAN NS 2182 30 (unc) 7103UM STUART, RICHARD AC 2172 31 (- 4) 3632AM JOHNSON, QUENTIN OT 2170 32 (unc) 5776AM KRSTEV, MARIO NS 2157 33 (- 4) 3617AM VAN DER HOORN, MARK W WE 2153 34 (- 1) 3291AM BARLOW, MATTHEW J NS 2151 35 (- 1) 4045AM LAMONT, IAIN OT 2146 36 (- 1) 3417AM TURNER, MICHAEL G WE 2144 37 (unc) 5645AM BROWNE, JEREMY A HA 2129 38 (unc) 3253AM MARNER, GAVIN WE 2128 39 (- 3) 6366AM MACHDOEM, KARMA A (ANDY) CA 2123 40 (unc) 4426UM HILL, MARTIN WE 2122 41 (+ 1) 7032UM QI, CHAO CA 2121 42 (+ 1) 3987AM MCNABB, MATTHEW D CA 2119 43 (new) 7004JM GAO, HANS AC 2118 44 (- 4) 3089AM BENNETT, HILTON P HA 2116 45 (+ 5) 5648AF MAROROA, SUE Y HP 2102 (new) 5648AF YANG, SCOTT WT 2102 47 (- 4) 3648UM MCDONALD, JOHN A PN 2101 48 (new) 3005SM STUART, PETER W NS 2099 49 (unc) 6468SF MILLIGAN, HELEN NS 2098 50 (- 7) 4300AM BURNS, CHRIS J PN 2097 (- 3) 4300AM WILSON, JESSE WE 2097
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Here is the list of the top 50 active rapid-rated players for period 1 of 2012.
Ben Hague is the new number one, moving up 2 places, ahead of Anthony Ker and Russell Dive. Quite a volatile list this time. Daniel Shen moves up a whopping 35 places to 10th while Hans Gao climbs 24 places to 18th. There are six new entries, with Bruce Wheeler the highest of these at 28th.
Code:1 (+ 2) 8070AM HAGUE, BEN AC 2388 2 (- 1) 3383AM KER, ANTHONY F WE 2378 3 (- 1) 3459AM DIVE, RUSSELL J WE 2356 4 (+ 2) 3178AM NOKES, ROGER I CA 2332 5 (unc) 3002SM GARBETT, PAUL A NS 2327 6 (+ 1) 3255AM NOBLE, MARK F PN 2313 7 (+ 1) 3830AM WASTNEY, SCOTT WE 2278 8 (+ 3) 3206AM WATSON, BRUCE R AC 2274 9 (+ 3) 3460AM DREYER, MARTIN P HP 2258 10 (+35) 6142JM SHEN, DANIEL AC 2253 11 (+ 2) 3148AM DOWDEN, R ANTHONY OT 2244 12 (- 3) 3088AM SMITH, ROBERT W MM 2239 13 (+ 6) 3507UM HART, RALPH NS 2238 14 (+ 1) 6598AM LEE, EDWARD WE 2227 15 (- 5) 3201AM STEADMAN, MICHAEL V R AC 2206 16 (+ 2) 3314AM MCLAREN, LEONARD J HP 2197 17 (unc) 7311AM PINIC, NOEL MM 2168 18 (+24) 7004JM GAO, HANS AC 2163 19 (+ 3) 3009AM WANSINK, ROBERT OT 2161 20 (- 4) 5620AM THORNTON, GINO A NS 2160 21 (unc) 5349AM HAN, DANIEL AC 2156 22 (+ 1) 3617AM VAN DER HOORN, MARK W WE 2141 23 (+ 1) 3291AM BARLOW, MATTHEW J NS 2125 24 (+10) 5104AM KRSTEV, ANTONIO NS 2123 25 (- 1) 3025UM CARPINTER, ANTHONY L NS 2117 26 (+ 1) 5776AM KRSTEV, MARIO NS 2115 27 (+ 1) 4617UM CUMMINGS, NICK CA 2113 28 (new) 3386AM WHEELER, BRUCE AC 2098 29 (new) 6203JM LI, WILLIAM (XIANG WEI) AC 2094 (+ 1) 6203JM MAROROA, SUE Y HP 2094 31 (- 5) 6360JM ANSELL, ALAN NP 2088 32 (+ 1) 3454AM SUTHERLAND, JOHN L OT 2081 33 (- 2) 3394UM NIJMAN, BRIAN WE 2080 34 (- 5) 7039AM DUNEAS, JOHN MM 2074 35 (+ 1) 3648UM MCDONALD, JOHN A PN 2067 36 (new) 7155JM LI, LUKE (ZUHAO) HP 2064 37 (- 6) 3005SM STUART, PETER W NS 2059 38 (- 3) 5645AM BROWNE, JEREMY A HA 2039 (- 1) 5645AM NYBERG, MICHAEL WE 2039 40 (unc) 4300AM BURNS, CHRIS J PN 2021 41 (- 1) 5599SM THOMAS, BENJAMIN UH 2016 42 (- 5) 3089AM BENNETT, HILTON P HA 2015 43 (- 4) 4309AM EVANS, DAVID J NS 2009 44 (- 1) 3632AM JOHNSON, QUENTIN OT 2006 45 (new) 3665AM GOODHUE, NATHAN AC 1999 46 (new) 4302AM DAVIS, JUSTIN M GA 1993 47 (- 1) 3013AM POMEROY, ARTHUR J WE 1985 48 (- 1) 3253AM MARNER, GAVIN WE 1978 49 (unc) 6366AM MACHDOEM, KARMA A (ANDY) CA 1975 50 (new) 3293UM VAN GINKEL, JOHN P NE 1971
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Originally Posted by CivicChessMan
I'm astounded to find myself on this list. Apparently my (completely unintentional) strategy is to play one rated game every five years and win it! (Meanwhile I remain unrated in Australia, having only played four rated rapid games in 7 years).
Fischer visiting Tal in hospital - Curaçao 1962
"You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one." - Mikhail Tal
"My favourite piece is the one that wins" - Bobby Fischer
I think I can fix that for youOriginally Posted by Tony Dowden
. One game in six rating periods hardly makes a player active so there needs to be a minimum number of games to qualify. Likely minimum is 5 games.
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Thanks Rowan. I can't recall playing in any rapid events in NZ since before I moved to Tasmania in 2005. I did win a rapid with 4.5/5 in Dunedin a couple or so years ago but I thought it was meant to have been unrated.Originally Posted by CivicChessMan
Fischer visiting Tal in hospital - Curaçao 1962
"You must take your opponent into a deep dark forest where 2+2=5, and the path leading out is only wide enough for one." - Mikhail Tal
"My favourite piece is the one that wins" - Bobby Fischer
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