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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    The UK fortunately doesn't have the American abomination of judicial review. Sir Peter Marshall, former Assistant Secretary-General of the Commonwealth, argues Supreme Court: on Shaky Ground:
    Sir Peter Marshall argues that the Supreme Court were unconvincing in stating that their judgement was not about Brexit. The Court ignores the reasons why no deal is still an issue including the difficulties made for the PM by parliament and the way in which Brussels has played fast and loose with its own rules. The use of judicial power to try to thwart the biggest vote in British history represents an outrageous intrusion into politics by eleven individuals none of whom we can vote out.
    How does allowing Parliament to sit "thwart the biggest vote in British history"? Anyway, a referendum in Britain has no authority unless it is recognised by Parliament.

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    The EU has approved a deal on Brexit but Johnson has to get it through parliament in a very unusual Saturday sitting. Yesterday the UK House of Commons passed (only just, 287-275) a procedural motion that allows for it to amend the deal rather than just having a yes/no vote, a possible amendment being making it conditional on a confirming referendum.

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    Being a late starter here so not sure what has been discussed but didn't the Russians also interfere in the Brexit referendum?
    Zionism is racism as defined by the UN, Israel by every dirty means available steals land and water, kill Palestinian freedom fighters and civilians, and operates an apartheid system to drive more Palestinians off their land

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    Could be an election in December, though it will take all night our time to get through all the motions and posturing. Dec 12 is the government's preferred date but may well be moved to Dec 11 or Dec 9 to appease other parties.

    However there is also the prospect of attempts to amend the motion to allow 16-17 year olds to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    However there is also the prospect of attempts to amend the motion to allow 16-17 year olds to vote.
    This amendment wasn't accepted for debate (they have to be ruthless with amendments as it takes c. 15 mins for a division) and the motion was approved 438-20 so there will be an election on December 12.

    Amusingly after all the early election attempts that couldn't get a plurality let alone the required two-thirds, this one only required a plurality but actually got two-thirds!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    ... so there will be an election on December 12. ...
    A lot of talk about tactical voting in the UK election - why-tactical-voting-is-the-talk-of-the-uk-s-upcoming-general-election

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blunderbuss View Post
    A lot of talk about tactical voting in the UK election - why-tactical-voting-is-the-talk-of-the-uk-s-upcoming-general-election
    Tactical voting is a bug not a feature of FPP.
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