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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron
    It is good to see so many of the top female players being young and upcoming.
    Unfortunately the main reason for that is that many strong female players stop playing after leaving junior ranks.

    For example, Emma Guo is ranked 5th by FIDE rating out of active female players. Out of all female players, she is ranked 33rd.

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    FWIW, my selections:

    Caoili, Berezina, Dekic, Moylan and Giang (though some of those may not apply or qualify); Zhao, Smerdon, Xie, Johansen and Wohl (v marginally from Solo).

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    Current FIDE ratings are here

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    #	Name	Title	Fed	Rating	G	B-Year
     1	 Zhao, Zong-Yuan	 g	 AUS	 2572	 0	 1986
     2	 Smerdon, David	 g	 AUS	 2530	 2	 1984
     3	 Wohl, Aleksandar H.	 m	 AUS	 2458	 18	 1963
     4	 Johansen, Darryl K.	 g	 AUS	 2453	 19	 1959
     5	 Xie, George Wendi	 m	 AUS	 2448	 6	 1985
     6	 Solomon, Stephen J.	 m	 AUS	 2428	 9	 1963
     7	 Chapman, Mark	 m	 AUS	 2401	 0	 1963
     8	 Goldenberg, Igor	 m	 AUS	 2386	 9	 1969
     9	 Lane, Gary W.	 m	 AUS	 2377	 0	 1964
     10	 Rej, Tomek	 f	 AUS	 2364	 10	 1986
    Current ACF ratings at Dec 2009

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    	 2568!!   7  NSW  Zhao, Zong-Yuan [GM]
    	 2510!!  13  ACT  Smerdon, David C [GM]
    	 2479!    0  NSW  Wohl, Aleksander H [IM]
    	 2435!!  11  VIC  Johansen, Darryl K [GM]
    	 2424!!  30  NSW  Xie, George [IM]
    	 2386!    0   SA  Tao, Trevor
    	 2365!!  12  QLD  Solomon, Stephen J [IM]
    	 2354!!   7  NSW  Bjelobrk, Igor [FM]
    	 2338!   12  QLD  Ly, Moulthun
    	 2336!    6  ACT  Ikeda, Junta
    Both pre-date the Aussie Champs

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    Women ACF

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    	 2186!    0  QLD  Caoili, Arianne B [WIM]
    	 2101!    0   SA  Nguyen, Giang
    	 2079!    4  NSW  Berezina-Feldman, Irina [IM]
    	 1994!    0  NSW  Moylan, Laura A [WIM]
    	 1934!    7  NSW  Dekic, Biljana [WIM]
    	 1818!    1  NSW  Musaeva, Aina
    	 1812!!  36  ACT  Guo, Emma
    	 1802!!  39  VIC  Yu, Sally
    	 1783!    3  QLD  Jule, Alexandra [WIM]
    	 1762!!   0  ACT  Oliver, Shannon [WFM]
    “The destructive capacity of the individual, however vicious, is small; of the state, however well-intentioned, almost limitless. Expand the state and that destructive capacity necessarily expands, too, pari passu.”—Paul Johnson, Modern Times, 1983.

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    After taking into account the expected changes (inc Australian Championship):

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    #	Name	Title	Fed	Rating	G	B-Year
     1	 Zhao, Zong-Yuan	 g	 AUS	 2592	 0	 1986
     2	 Smerdon, David	 	 g	 AUS	 2530	 2	 1984
     3	 Xie, George Wendi	 m	 AUS	 2470	 6	 1985
     4	 Johansen, Darryl K.	 g	 AUS	 2457	 19	 1959
     5	 Wohl, Aleksandar H.	 m	 AUS	 2441	 18	 1963
     6	 Solomon, Stephen J.	 m	 AUS	 2424	 9	 1963
     7	 Chapman, Mark	 	 m	 AUS	 2401	 0	 1963
     8	 Goldenberg, Igor	 m	 AUS	 2386	 9	 1969
     9	 Lane, Gary W.	 	 m	 AUS	 2380	 0	 1964
     10	 Rej, Tomek	 	 f	 AUS	 2348	 10	 1986
    Last edited by pax; 17-02-2010 at 01:53 PM.

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    Current Women's FIDE ratings:
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     1	 Berezina, Irina	 m	 AUS	 2239	 0	 1965
     2	 Caoili, Arianne	 wm	 AUS	 2235	 9	 1986
     3	 Nguyen, Thu Giang	 	 AUS	 2108	 0	 1985
     4	 Dekic, Biljana N.	 wm	 AUS	 2091	 0	 1950
     5	 Guo, Emma	 	 	 AUS	 1958	 28	 1995
     6	 Jule, Alexandra	 wm	 AUS	 1938	 5	 1989
     7	 Yu, Sally	 	 	 AUS	 1933	 6	 1994
     8	 Oliver, Shannon	 wf	 AUS	 1926	 0	 1986
     9	 Eustace, Sophie	 	 AUS	 1843	 0	 1993
     10	 Reid, Vaness	 	 	 AUS	 1839	 0	  
     10	 Szuveges, Narelle	 wm	 AUS	 1839	 0	 1978
    Of these, only Emma Guo has an expected rating change (-17).

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    Womens Team 2010

    You have forgotten to include Anastasia Sorokina who might be keen to play in Siberia!

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    Mens Team 2010

    My Mens team as per 17/2/2010


    1.Zhao
    2.Smerdon
    3.Johansen
    4.Xie
    5.Mr X

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonid Sandler
    You have forgotten to include Anastasia Sorokina who might be keen to play in Siberia!
    She will need to get her skates on and play some games: she is currently inactive on the ACF and FIDE lists. I'm not sure how she will play 20 rated games between now and the end of April.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pax
    After taking into account the expected changes (inc Australian Championship):

    Code:
    #	Name	Title	Fed	Rating	G	B-Year
     1	 Zhao, Zong-Yuan	 g	 AUS	 2592	 0	 1986
     2	 Smerdon, David	 	 g	 AUS	 2530	 2	 1984
     3	 Xie, George Wendi	 m	 AUS	 2470	 6	 1985
     4	 Johansen, Darryl K.	 g	 AUS	 2457	 19	 1959
     5	 Wohl, Aleksandar H.	 m	 AUS	 2441	 18	 1963
     6	 Solomon, Stephen J.	 m	 AUS	 2424	 9	 1963
     7	 Chapman, Mark	 	 m	 AUS	 2401	 0	 1963
     8	 Goldenberg, Igor	 m	 AUS	 2386	 9	 1969
     9	 Lane, Gary W.	 	 m	 AUS	 2380	 0	 1964
     10	 Rej, Tomek	 	 f	 AUS	 2348	 10	 1986
    Is that ACF or FIDE? How should they be weighted? Ratings support your selection.
    “The destructive capacity of the individual, however vicious, is small; of the state, however well-intentioned, almost limitless. Expand the state and that destructive capacity necessarily expands, too, pari passu.”—Paul Johnson, Modern Times, 1983.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    Is that ACF or FIDE? How should they be weighted? Ratings support your selection.
    Those are the adjusted FIDE ratings. For the majority of the men, FIDE ratings are more significant since almost all of their relevant games are included. Wohl in particular cannot be judged on his ACF rating since he plays many games overseas and relatively few in Australia. The women on the other hand, probably need to be judged primarily on ACF rating (except perhaps for the top one or two), since the majority of their relevant games will be ACF rated (and not all FIDE rated). FIDE ratings also tend to be inaccurate below about 2100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pax
    She will need to get her skates on and play some games: she is currently inactive on the ACF and FIDE lists. I'm not sure how she will play 20 rated games between now and the end of April.
    Sorokina played 5 games in the last ACF rating period, rated 2147, number 2 ACF. Not enough to make top lists, but she still could make the 20 games mark. She would be be a strong addition to the team. My order would be Caoili, Berezina-Feldman, Sorokina, Nguyen, Moylan (or perhaps Moylan, Nguyen), Dekic and Guo. After that not really sure, but hopefully the selection doesn't have to go beyond that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Colliver
    Sorokina played 5 games in the last ACF rating period, rated 2147, number 2 ACF.
    I missed that. I assumed she was inactive based on her absence from the top list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pax
    I missed that. I assumed she was inactive based on her absence from the top list.
    I think that Bill doesn't put players in the "top" lists unless they have a !! rating or perhaps he accepts a ! rating. Anastasia doesn't have either.

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    Is the requirement of having to play a certain number of rated games to be eligible to play in the OL been followed ''únconditionally'' if Sorokina applies, will her application be automatically rejected because she has not played enough rated games. What if someone like Zhao takes a year off chess..then applies to play in the OL? He will not be considered?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron
    Is the requirement of having to play a certain number of rated games to be eligible to play in the OL been followed ''únconditionally'' if Sorokina applies, will her application be automatically rejected because she has not played enough rated games. What if someone like Zhao takes a year off chess..then applies to play in the OL? He will not be considered?
    I think the answers are likely to be "yes" and "yes". The activity requirement is not onerous, and the applicants are all well aware of the requirement.

    I cannot imagine a situation ever arising where a realistic candidate for the Men's team failed to meet the activity requirement. The women's team is a different story of course, since the vast majority of Australia's top 50 players are inactive.

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