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    Drouin Open

    This is advance notice that the Drouin Open Championship will be on again in 2005, on the weekend of 20th and 21st February.
    More details will follow later in the year, but put it in your diaries now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by biggles
    This is advance notice that the Drouin Open Championship will be on again in 1995, on the weekend of 20th and 21st February.
    More details will follow later in the year, but put it in your diaries now.

    David Bell
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    thanks for the advanced notice, much appreciated by the way, would you like the drouin open included in the 1995 gp calendar too

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggrayggray
    thanks for the advanced notice, much appreciated by the way, would you like the drouin open included in the 1995 gp calendar too
    If the tournament was already losing money I tend to think making it GP would make it lose even more. The Uni of QLD Open in 2001 was a class 3 GP event, with fantastic prizes, yet we only got about 55 participants and lost a bundle (I say we loosely, I participated but was not an organiser) - I think largely because to compensate for such large prizes the entry fees had to be raised.

    I guess what you need to consider when you run a tournament is how you expect to attract a decent field without bankrupting oneself. If I can figure that out, I'd be interested in resurrecting the UQ Open next year.
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    Exclamation Warning. Poster on hobby-horse; ahead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Dickinson
    If the tournament was already losing money I tend to think making it GP would make it lose even more. The Uni of QLD Open in 2001 was a class 3 GP event, with fantastic prizes, yet we only got about 55 participants and lost a bundle (I say we loosely, I participated but was not an organiser) - I think largely because to compensate for such large prizes the entry fees had to be raised.

    I guess what you need to consider when you run a tournament is how you expect to attract a decent field without bankrupting oneself. If I can figure that out, I'd be interested in resurrecting the UQ Open next year.
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    hi BD

    Attracting the field, is certainly the key question. There are lots of things you can do......rates of play, location, publicity, prize-money etc etc.
    Dont forget my theory that most players like competitive chess. A much smaller number like a free chance to take a high-rated players scalp.. The design of your tournament will need to be a trade-off between these mutually exclusive player objectives

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    hobby horse is right and you have quoted the person who has the complete opposite opinion to you in most ways.

    Stay clear of this area, there will be a battle going on here

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    Regarding Drouin open 2005 being a gp event,

    David, you have stated previously that you are losing money with this event. I also understand that your club is not affiliated with CV.

    I highly suspect that affiliated clubs can receive a special grant from CV for chess promotion and running events.

    I think it would be well worth your club's while to become affiliated with CV and apply for a grant/sponsorship for your event. If only to reduce the amount that comes out of your pocket personally.


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    How's this for a response?

    Quote Originally Posted by starter
    (BOLD in quote edited in by starter).

    hi BD

    Attracting the field, is certainly the key question. There are lots of things you can do......rates of play, location, publicity, prize-money etc etc.
    Dont forget my theory that most players like competitive chess. A much smaller number like a free chance to take a high-rated players scalp.. The design of your tournament will need to be a trade-off between these mutually exclusive player objectives

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    Shot messenger.

    Quote Originally Posted by ggrayggray
    hobby horse is right and you have quoted the person who has the complete opposite opinion to you in most ways.

    Stay clear of this area, there will be a battle going on here
    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Dickinson
    This is what I think of your competetiveness!
    Look guys, you are 100% correct, in liking to take the scalp of a high-rated player. No argument from me. That is what you like to do. And so does Matt.
    And the SWISS format in its pure form gives you that chance in the first couple of rounds (particularly round 1) for free. For you, what could be better than having a pairing against someone rated 600 points higher just by the fact that it is round 1. No work to get to 5/6 or something like that before the pairing is made. There it is, in round 1. A Heffalump ready to be rolled.

    The key question 'is this what the bulk of the field want'? Or do they want competitive games instead? Are you designing a tournament for the masses; or for you?

    Don't kick me just because you have a choice to make. All I am doing is describing the choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starter
    Look guys, you are 100% correct, in liking to take the scalp of a high-rated player. No argument from me. That is what you like to do.
    mr starter sir, are you including me in the monster swiss fan club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggrayggray
    thanks for the advanced notice, much appreciated by the way, would you like the drouin open included in the 1995 gp calendar too
    I know david said 1995 but I think you should be including it in the 2005 calendar.
    Putting it in the GP calendar for 1995 isnt any use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos
    IPutting it in the GP calendar for 1995 isnt any use.
    Oh gee Bill. That's the wisest thing you said all week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arosar
    Oh gee Bill. That's the wisest thing you said all week.

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    I know you cant help being a wiseass but it seemed fairly obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos
    I know david said 1995 but I think you should be including it in the 2005 calendar.
    Putting it in the GP calendar for 1995 isnt any use.
    well i was being a plain smart ass if you couldnt tell anyways i have said before that the whole calendar will be up for review and ill be making some recommendations to the acf council in future months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos
    I know david said 1995 but I think you should be including it in the 2005 calendar.
    Putting it in the GP calendar for 1995 isnt any use.
    The joke isn't funny the second time. It is limp, lame, and lamentable.

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