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    The British National Party

    There is a political party in Britain called the British National Party (BNP) that has been causing some concerns and discussions over in the Old Dart. They are a described as a far right and white only party. Foremost on their agenda is anti-immigration.

    Early this year they managed to win 2 seats in the European Parliament. Then last week they hit the headlines again when a court ordered the party to amend their constitution so that rules that ban non-whites from membership are removed and when the party's leader, Nick Griffin, appeared on the BBC's "Question Time" programme.

    Lucky for us, and thanks to Youtube, we can watch Nick Griffin's performance on that programe and we can judge for ourselves. Below are the relevant links, each segment being roughly 10 minutes.

    Part 1
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    Part 4
    Part 5
    Part 6

    Anyway, I share all this here because, personally, I find the whole situation over there in the UK quite interesting. But also because I think some of the issues are relevant to at least a couple of threads currently under debate in this forum.

    By the way, there were many who disagreed with the BBC's decision to allow Nick Griffin that level of public airing.

    AR

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    That's the problem when both major parties are elitists who love political correctness and surrendering sovereignty to Brussels Bureaucrats. Many Brits still want to have a say in how their own country is run. The BNP, like Hanson, attracts such people; and like them, has the wrong solution, but unlike her, is overtly white supremacist, so is a lot more dangerous.

    Andrew Bolt has the right idea:

    If the BNP are as dumb and wicked as claimed, then open debates will eventually destroy it. Using violence, abuse, censorship and even the law to instead bully it into silence will only make more people determined to defend it — if only to defend their own right to be heard. That was the lesson of Hansonism.

    Matthew Engel complains that the gang-up was exactly not what was needed. I agree, especially given what these polls say. Argument, not abuse, is the most effective antidote. I’m with Rod Liddle: don’t panic or rage, just talk. Separate the legitimate concerns BNP supporters have from the BNP’s ugly remedies, and address them seriously. Repudiate only what’s left.

    These were the successful tactics John Howard used in neutering Hansonism.
    “The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty.”
    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    That's the problem when both major parties are elitists who love political correctness and surrendering sovereignty to Brussels Bureaucrats. Many Brits still want to have a say in how their own country is run. The BNP, like Hanson, attracts such people; and like them, has the wrong solution, but unlike her, is overtly white supremacist, so is a lot more dangerous.
    Are you saying Hanson is not a white supremacist, or just not overtly one.
    So what's your excuse? To run like the devil's chasing you.

    See you in another life, brotha.

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    Thank you Amiel for posting the links to the program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris
    Are you saying Hanson is not a white supremacist, or just not overtly one.
    I doubt she is one, although One Nation probably had its fair share.
    “The history of the 20th century is full of examples of countries that set out to redistribute wealth and ended up redistributing poverty.”
    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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