View Poll Results: Can you perceive a crime for which you would support the death penalty?

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    Can you perceive a crime for which you would support the death penalty?

    Thread started in response to parallel thread/ poll on capital punishment. Def not wishing to detract from existing thread.
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    I'd be especially interested to see how the following people vote in this poll. These people voted against the death penalty in the stem thread.

    arosar, AzureBlue, Boris, Davidflude, eclipse, Garrett, Garvinator, Ian Murray, Jaydon, Mokum, pax, Tony Dowden, Watto
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    My opinion tends to vary over time, I suppose depending on which factors I am weighing more heavily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris
    My opinion tends to vary over time, I suppose depending on which factors I am weighing more heavily.
    I think that means a yes vote?
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    I would seriously consider it in the case of a mass murderer who has zero remorse.(There is certainty of guilt.)I would also point out that many prisoners consider life imprisonment(no early release) worse than death,hence attempts at suicide.However in answer to the question,I am not committing to the death sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner Duggan
    I think that means a yes vote?
    Yes, I suppose it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Met
    I would seriously consider it in the case of a mass murderer who has zero remorse.(There is certainty of guilt.)I would also point out that many prisoners consider life imprisonment(no early release) worse than death,hence attempts at suicide.However in answer to the question,I am not committing to the death sentence.
    This seems to be a self-contradictory position. On one hand you say you would seriously consider the death penalty, then in conclusion you rule it out. Perhaps I am misreading and you are saying that although you have considered the penalty for a remorseless mass murderer, you would ultimately feed and clothe him and keep him safe and warm until he pops off naturally.
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    Garv, I see you have voted no. What about genocide based on race hatred - the manner and speed of the deaths varied and chosen to include those of torture and on children? Not to mention other depravity and forcing family members to watch? Cosy cell with three square meals and telly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner Duggan
    This seems to be a self-contradictory position. On one hand you say you would seriously consider the death penalty, then in conclusion you rule it out. Perhaps I am misreading and you are saying that although you have considered the penalty for a remorseless mass murderer, you would ultimately feed and clothe him and keep him safe and warm until he pops off naturally.
    Well,I am considering or thinking on the death penalty as an appropriate penalty.In the case of a worst crime I am not convinced the death penalty is the right response.Is it the best available response? At this time I hold the view that life imprisonment is the best response.

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    I can certainly conceive of crimes where I would wish the offender dead, but it would be wrong for the offender to be killed. I am yet to be convinced that the death penalty is right, although Jono puts forward a strong Biblical argument.
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    I voted yes. While I am not sure of the crime that might deserve capital punishment, it must also have higher level of prove than what is acceptable for "guilty" verdict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner Duggan
    This seems to be a self-contradictory position. On one hand you say you would seriously consider the death penalty, then in conclusion you rule it out. Perhaps I am misreading and you are saying that although you have considered the penalty for a remorseless mass murderer, you would ultimately feed and clothe him and keep him safe and warm until he pops off naturally.
    Or is released on "compassionate" grounds, as the Scots did to the Lockerbie mass murderer, who was of course given a hero's welcome back in Libya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    Or is released on "compassionate" grounds, as the Scots did to the Lockerbie mass murderer, who was of course given a hero's welcome back in Libya.
    Releasing murderers (convicted to non-parole life sentence) is a different problem (albeit relevant).
    I know it's a hypothetical question, but would you drop (or lessen) support for death penalty if life sentence was strictly enforced?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Igor_Goldenberg
    I know it's a hypothetical question, but would you drop (or lessen) support for death penalty if life sentence was strictly enforced?
    Yes, as much as I think that one who intentionally takes innocent human life should forfeit their own life.
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