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    http://www.chesschat.org/showthread....d-column/page2

    Dr Moderator, it is not often that we have a thread commenced by a GM about another local GM where everything was going okay. My hot and cold mate misinterpreted a few times my intentions and actions thus dragging the thread into a UFC contest. I think we loosely interpret the non topic rule that one diversionary comment can be briefly made and one similar reply and that's about it. Not to downgrade the thread as has now occurred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antichrist View Post
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    Dr Moderator, it is not often that we have a thread commenced by a GM about another local GM where everything was going okay. My hot and cold mate misinterpreted a few times my intentions and actions thus dragging the thread into a UFC contest. I think we loosely interpret the non topic rule that one diversionary comment can be briefly made and one similar reply and that's about it. Not to downgrade the thread as has now occurred.
    Both of you need to stop replying to each other with trashy stuff on quality threads. I'm out of patience with cleaning it up. I'm getting close-ish to banning both of you from replying to each other across the entire site.
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    Hello Mr.Bonham,
    I am just wondering as a forum with very well history, what is the penalty of a user who badmouths and insult people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel.Muller View Post
    Hello Mr.Bonham,
    I am just wondering as a forum with very well history, what is the penalty of a user who badmouths and insult people?
    There is no standard penalty for insulting or badmouthing people on this forum. For example, we do not penalise people for insulting others if there is good reason for doing so, nor usually if there are chains of insults that develop between users with different views who are both willing parties in the conflict. We will usually take the circumstances into account.

    As concerns the posts that you complained about, they may or may not stay removed, and there may or may not be further directions to members regarding further similar situations, but I have already decided that no other action will be taken against the posters involved as they had reasonable concerns in the circumstances.

    PS My title is Dr not Mr.
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    I have temporarily removed one post from this thread as I have not seen official confirmation of the content. If a player has recently been banned, I would appreciate it if the club concerned could contact me to confirm this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
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    I have temporarily removed one post from this thread as I have not seen official confirmation of the content. If a player has recently been banned, I would appreciate it if the club concerned could contact me to confirm this.
    I would appreciate it if you could could contact the club to confirm this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b.nancarrow View Post
    I would appreciate it if you could could contact the club to confirm this.
    Hey, I've already gone beyond the call of duty by signing up to their Facebook so I can watch for official announcements.

    Seriously, guarding this forum against potential defamation actions is extremely important. For that reason the burden is on posters who want to make these claims publicly to ensure that they are either relying on a finding that is in the public domain or confirmed to site staff by reliable sources, or else that the evidence they present is absolutely overwhelming to the point that we could clearly rely on it in court if we had to. Not our job to fill in these gaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    Hey, I've already gone beyond the call of duty by signing up to their Facebook so I can watch for official announcements.

    Seriously, guarding this forum against potential defamation actions is extremely important. For that reason the burden is on posters who want to make these claims publicly to ensure that they are either relying on a finding that is in the public domain or confirmed to site staff by reliable sources, or else that the evidence they present is absolutely overwhelming to the point that we could clearly rely on it in court if we had to. Not our job to fill in these gaps.
    Understand. Thank you for the clarification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    Hey, I've already gone beyond the call of duty by signing up to their Facebook so I can watch for official announcements.

    Seriously, guarding this forum against potential defamation actions is extremely important. For that reason the burden is on posters who want to make these claims publicly to ensure that they are either relying on a finding that is in the public domain or confirmed to site staff by reliable sources, or else that the evidence they present is absolutely overwhelming to the point that we could clearly rely on it in court if we had to. Not our job to fill in these gaps.
    What if someone makes a post containing factual information (e.g. engine analysis of a chess game) and invites users to consider what happened...would there be any grounds to have the post removed?
    e.g. '' The following is the game that I played against Mr X. analyzed by Stockfish.'' Based on the analysis...the first line of the engine has been matched x%....'' etc. ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelBaron View Post
    What if someone makes a post containing factual information (e.g. engine analysis of a chess game) and invites users to consider what happened...would there be any grounds to have the post removed?
    e.g. '' The following is the game that I played against Mr X. analyzed by Stockfish.'' Based on the analysis...the first line of the engine has been matched x%....'' etc. ?
    There might be grounds for removal if the post appeared to imply cheating (whether that was the poster's intention or not) even if it didn't explicitly say there was cheating. In defamation law what matters is not what is literally said, but what a reasonable reader could think was being conveyed. A question can be interpreted as a statement.

    To give a non-chess example "Mr Z's wife left the house this morning with two black eyes. How do you think that happened?" would be interpreted as a nudge-nudge-wink-wink suggestion that Mr Z bashed his wife, and could be defamatory.
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    Deleted thread started by antichrist to parody the "Policing of Indigenous offenders" thread. I could not tell whether the parody thread was intended as a kind of moderation complaint and even if it wasn't it contained no actual content and was in a subject area where antichrist has form and has long ago been warned not to start new threads. Had AC made any attempt to make a substantial point that the Australian justice or policing systems display bias in either direction concerning any non-Indigenous ethnicity things might have been different but that was not the case.
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    Dr Moderator, We both missed one variation, me that should not make new threads on certain issue and yourself the flavour of the creator of thread on Indigenous Policing. Call it a draw. Regards.
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    The thread wasn't created by Michael. I created it as a thread-split from the welfare spending thread to move such discussions out of there and stop them derailing that thread, and I used the title to describe the content of the split discussions as accurately as I could. It's open to people who want to take any position on the issue ranging from policing of Indigenous offenders being too lenient to it being too harsh, and it's also open to claims about Indigenous crime rates being higher or lower than crime rates generally. If you find it offensive that people are taking a particular point of view on these issues, feel free to criticise that view.
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