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    Quote Originally Posted by ER View Post
    Am I still under lock and key? and l hope this question is excluded from my signature's statement, although one can never be sure!
    No, if you can post in this section then that means your suspension from it has expired. I can block members from posting in particular sections, although I have to remember to lift the ban manually once it expires. I cannot block members from posting in specific threads without blocking them from the whole section, so if I ban someone from a thread it is up to them to remember not to post in it until the ban is up.

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    OK deal, thanks!
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    Carlsen vs Nepo for the WC title in Dubai is a 14 game not a 12 game match. Poll is invalid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ER View Post
    Carlsen vs Nepo for the WC title in Dubai is a 14 game not a 12 game match. Poll is invalid.
    And has been corrected. Hopefully for the last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garvinator View Post
    And has been corrected. Hopefully for the last time.
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    Could this post please be removed as it has nothing to do with the tournament in which thread it was posted?
    http://www.chesschat.org/showthread....l=1#post480594
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond View Post
    Could this post please be removed as it has nothing to do with the tournament in which thread it was posted?
    http://www.chesschat.org/showthread....l=1#post480594
    Moved to new thread (generous to poster).
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    I assume that Capablanca-Fan's conspiracy theory is still banned under this moderation decision:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    Moderation comment re accidental escape claims
    There's a fair amount of discussion by some respectable media sources and some politicians of a claim linking the Wuhan virus labs to the origin of the virus. The theory is that although the virus clearly appears to have jumped from bats to some other animal before being caught by humans, this could have happened accidentally following lab experiments, conducted not for the purposes of developing bioweapons but rather during legitimate research intended in the interests of understanding of coronaviruses for human health purposes.
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    Rand Paul Has Won Every Single Round Against Fauci
    Time has proven Rand Paul [himself a medical doctor] had his thumb on the pulse of the science of the virus, and understood the unintended consequences of government interventions better than public health officials. Hannah Cox, FEE, 27 May 2021
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    3. Round Three: COVID Origins
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    “To arrive at the truth, the U.S. government should admit that the Wuhan Virology Institute was experimenting to enhance the coronavirus's ability to infect humans," he continued. Paul went on to point out a grant from the National Institutes of Health (NIH), where Fauci works, to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).

    "Sen. Paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect," Fauci responded. He denied the “gain of function” research funding in question as well. But following the dispute, the official story on the origins began to be backtracked. Media outlets softened their position, and some outright edited their previous articles condemning the story.

    It was also confirmed that the NIH did fund research at WIV that analyzed bat specimens collected from caves in China to study their potential for infecting humans. The grant was made in a roundabout way through a nonprofit called EcoHealth.

    Winner: Rand Paul
    Capablanca-Fan is claiming that 'gain-of-function' research was conducted at Wuhan, but has provided no evidence beyond vague claims of conspiracies. It's a complicated area, but this fact check does try to clear it up: "There’s no evidence that the Wuhan laboratory, with or without funding from an NIH grant, created SARS-CoV-2."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    I assume that Capablanca-Fan's conspiracy theory is still banned under this moderation decision:





    Capablanca-Fan is claiming that 'gain-of-function' research was conducted at Wuhan, but has provided no evidence beyond vague claims of conspiracies. It's a complicated area, but this fact check does try to clear it up: "There’s no evidence that the Wuhan laboratory, with or without funding from an NIH grant, created SARS-CoV-2."
    I'm considering this but the claim that gain of function research occurred and the claim that COVID was created entirely in a lab setting aren't identical claims. My main aim with the moderation decisions announced early in the pandemic was to prevent claims that sought to link COVID to a spuriously claimed bioweapons program (with a hostile focus not a human protection focus), because such claims are likely to go hand in hand with racism and militarism towards China and people of Chinese ethnicity or appearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    I'm considering this but the claim that gain of function research occurred and the claim that COVID was created entirely in a lab setting aren't identical claims. My main aim with the moderation decisions announced early in the pandemic was to prevent claims that sought to link COVID to a spuriously claimed bioweapons program (with a hostile focus not a human protection focus), because such claims are likely to go hand in hand with racism and militarism towards China and people of Chinese ethnicity or appearance.
    One of the things that concerned me about Capablanca's post is that the sections he's quoted don't provide any positive reason for the research. Gain-of-function research is controversial, but is clearly intended to benefit humanity. However Paul (via Capablanca-Fan) describes it as "experimenting to enhance the coronavirus's ability to infect humans", and the article later refers to "study their potential for infecting humans". Those statements are not inaccurate, but without context could easily be interpreted as implying that China was developing a bio-weapon - for example, this article.

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    Deleted post by antichrist - wasting my time with a spurious matter clearly not requiring moderation attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Byrom View Post
    One of the things that concerned me about Capablanca's post is that the sections he's quoted don't provide any positive reason for the research. Gain-of-function research is controversial, but is clearly intended to benefit humanity. However Paul (via Capablanca-Fan) describes it as "experimenting to enhance the coronavirus's ability to infect humans", and the article later refers to "study their potential for infecting humans". Those statements are not inaccurate, but without context could easily be interpreted as implying that China was developing a bio-weapon - for example, this article.
    One of the few things that you and I agree upon is that the Chinese Communist government is a totalitarian dictatorship, but neither of us have a problem with people of Chinese ethnicity or appearance. For comparison, I am old enough to remember another totalitarian dictatorship, the Soviet Gulag State, but that doesn't mean anti-Slavic racism.

    Also, regardless of the origin of this virus, the best way to deal with it now is mass vaccination. I supported getting the Rona vax as soon as it was available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capablanca-Fan View Post
    One of the few things that you and I agree upon is that the Chinese Communist government is a totalitarian dictatorship, but neither of us have a problem with people of Chinese ethnicity or appearance. For comparison, I am old enough to remember another totalitarian dictatorship, the Soviet Gulag State, but that doesn't mean anti-Slavic racism.

    Also, regardless of the origin of this virus, the best way to deal with it now is mass vaccination. I supported getting the Rona vax as soon as it was available.
    I agree with everything you've said. Although it is important for the future to determine the origins of the virus, and China isn't helping as much as it could (for whatever reason).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham View Post
    Posts moved

    The Vega/Swiss Perfect (etc) discussion which largely covers previous ground to the existing "Intended Phase-out of Swiss Perfect" thread has been moved to that thread. Also as Swiss Perfect has now been phased out for ratings purposes, the "Intended" has now been removed from the title:
    http://www.chesschat.org/showthread....-Swiss-Perfect

    I may move some of the posts again later, eg to an existing Vega thread. Any discussion of these actions may occur in the Help and Feedback section only.
    Thanks. That thread had definitely wandered off-topic. As I was largely responsible, I was going to suggest this, but assumed that with two moderators in the discussion things would take care of themselves

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    Notifying you that I am making an exemption to posting nowhere else but on chess related topics in order to vote in the Olympic Medals poll. Done, thanks!
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