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    September 2009 FIDE Ratings

    Current registrations for FIDE's September list (as of July 1 lists will come out 6 times a year). I have to check the exact cutoff finishing date for the lists with the new regulations but I believe it will be either Aug 24 or Aug 25.

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    Tournament			City		Format	Start		Finish
    Dandenong Autumn Open 		Melbourne	s	2009-05-13	2009-06-24
    Oceania Zonal Women 		Gold Coast	s	2009-06-20	2009-06-26
    Oceania Zonal Open 		Gold Coast	s	2009-06-20	2009-06-26
    Huntingdale Masters 		Perth		r	2009-04-17	2009-06-26
    City of Melbourne Open 		Melbourne	s	2009-04-27	2009-06-22
    CAQ Teams Championship 		Brisbane	t	2009-04-26	2009-07-04
    Noble Park Chess Club Open  	Melbourne	s	2009-05-09	2009-07-11
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    From FIDE, which will apply from this list onwards:

    Changes in the Rating Regulations from 1.7.2009

    Registration of Tournaments

    All tournaments have to be pre-registered one month before the tournament; exceptions to this may be decided by the QC Chairman.
    The intention is to publish registered tournaments in a calendar on the FIDE web page immediately after
    registration. This is to inform the participating players that the tournament will be rated.
    A tournament registration may be rejected, if the tournament seems to be suspicious. FIDE has also the right not to rate a tournament. The organizer may appeal against these decisions.

    Rating Period

    The rating period will be shortened from three months to two months. The list dates will be January 1, March 1, May 1, July 1, September 1 and November 1.
    The closing date, it is the date on or by which a competition must be finished to be included on the list, will be seven days before the list date. The official FIDE competitions will be taken on the list if they finish even on the day before the list date.

    Coefficient K

    The change of K as decided in Dresden was not confirmed by the PB. The K values stay as they are.
    Also the value of 0.5 point in a new player's rating calculation will stay as 12.5 (half of the highest K value).

    The K is determined based on the rating at the beginning of the tournament, not based on the rating at the time the ratings are calculated (the practice now)

    Rating of Previously Unrated Players


    Games against unrated players are rated in round-robin tournaments, as they have been rated so far. It is, if a previously unrated player scores at least 1 point in the event, the rating will be calculated. For the previously rated players all games, also the games against previously unrated players are rated.

    In the Swiss tournaments, the rating of a previously unrated player is calculated, if the player plays against at least three rated opponents, scores at least 1 point against the rated opponents, and the rating calculated based on these games is at least the rating floor.

    The rating of games of a rated player against unrated opponents was not confirmed by the PB, but the issue was returned to the QC.

    Rating Floor

    The rating floor will be 1200 from 1.7.2009. It means that a first result giving a rating at least 1200 for an unrated player is taken into account when calculating the unrated player's first published rating.

    Changes in the Calculation of the Unrated Player's Rating


    The new player's first published rating will be calculated in a cumulative way.
    Until 30.6.2009: The rating is calculated as a weighted average of tournament ratings (at least three rated opponents in a tournament) when the total number of games against rated players is at least 9.
    From 1.7.2009: The rating will be calculated as if all games had been in one tournament.

    Example:
    An unrated player has played three tournaments as follows: 3 games with a result 1.5/3 against opponents with an average rating of 2000, 4 games 1/4 against 2100 and 5 games 4/5 against 2200.

    Until 30.6.2009: The partial ratings would be 2000, 1907 and 2238, weighted average is 2068.

    From 1.7.2009: The average rating of all opponents is 2142, the total result is 6.5/12, so the new player's rating is 2142+12.5=2155.

    Maximum Rating Difference

    The maximum rating difference used in the calculations will be 400 points instead of 350. If the rating difference between players is more than 400 points, 400 points is used. It means that the highest expected result in a game will 0.92 instead of 0.89 and the lowest expected result will 0.08 instead of 0.11.

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    Code:
    Tournament			City			Format	Start		Finish
    Dandenong Autumn Open 		Melbourne		s	2009-05-13	2009-06-24
    Oceania Zonal Women 		Gold Coast		s	2009-06-20	2009-06-26
    Oceania Zonal Open 		Gold Coast		s	2009-06-20	2009-06-26
    Huntingdale Masters 		Perth			r	2009-04-17	2009-06-26
    City of Melbourne Open 		Melbourne		s	2009-04-27	2009-06-22
    CAQ Teams Championship 		Brisbane		t	2009-04-26	2009-07-04
    Noble Park Chess Club Open  	Melbourne		s	2009-05-09	2009-07-11
    Kon Raipalis Memorial		Melbourne		r	2009-06-29	2009-08-24


    The Kon Raipalis Memorial can just make it into the September registrations if I receive the final SP files on the night it finishes, otherwise it will most likely be pushed to the November list (there will be no fine for this but the 2-week deadline for submission will still apply).

    In the past few days the FIDE webmasters have considerably enhanced the tournament report view - click on the notepad icon for each tournament at the usual place - so that players may check all their individual results and colours of (played) games more easily.

    Regards,
    Greg

    P.S. The formatting of the tables is properly rendered in Chess Chat in my version of Firefox but maybe not in all browsers?
    Last edited by Rhubarb; 21-07-2009 at 02:25 PM.

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    The City of Sydney championship should probably be finished by Aug 20... is there any chance that it might be rated on the September list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shan_siddiqi
    The City of Sydney championship should probably be finished by Aug 20... is there any chance that it might be rated on the September list?
    There were a lot of changes to the make-up of the City of Sydney before it even got under way. The last email I received was from Shane, which stated explicitly that the tournament finishing date was August 27, to avoid any problems.

    Given that there are already 6 postponed games in the first 5 rounds, your use of the term "should" in reference to a finishing date of August 20 might seem a bit hopeful...

    Still, if you can convince Shane and Brett, I will look into the possibility of changing the registration dates, and they will have to accept the added responsibility of summarily forfeiting people who haven't played their games in time.

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    Just a query...
    Why hasn't the Oceania Zonal Open been rated yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mischa
    Just a query...
    Why hasn't the Oceania Zonal Open been rated yet?
    It's still not rated. A bit strange isn't it since the Women's event was rated ages ago.
    Last edited by Watto; 17-08-2009 at 12:31 PM.

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    There was a 'hold' error between FIDE and federations on July 4, which hadn't been identified until recently as occurring just between the submission of the Women's Zonal and the Open Zonal on that date.

    I expect to have this resolved shortly, along with the subsequent title applications.

    Kind Regards,
    Greg Canfell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watto
    It's still not rated. A bit strange isn't it since the Women's event was rated ages ago.
    Ladies first!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirty
    There was a 'hold' error between FIDE and federations on July 4, which hadn't been identified until recently as occurring just between the submission of the Women's Zonal and the Open Zonal on that date.

    I expect to have this resolved shortly, along with the subsequent title applications.

    Kind Regards,
    Greg Canfell
    Thank you Greg, and for all your work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirty
    There was a 'hold' error between FIDE and federations on July 4, which hadn't been identified until recently as occurring just between the submission of the Women's Zonal and the Open Zonal on that date.

    I expect to have this resolved shortly, along with the subsequent title applications.

    Kind Regards,
    Greg Canfell
    Ah, thanks for that, Greg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mischa
    Just a query...
    Why hasn't the Oceania Zonal Open been rated yet?
    looks like it is now Mischa.

    cheers
    Garrett.

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    cool

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    September Fide rating list is also out now.

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    where is that?
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