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    the wrong hand

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tghJ...eature=related
    This is from Moscow 1925.
    As an arbiter would you have penalised Spielman for doing the wrong thing vs Grunfeld?
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    Quote Originally Posted by justaknight
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tghJ...eature=related
    This is from Moscow 1925.
    As an arbiter would you have penalised Spielman for doing the wrong thing vs Grunfeld?
    Not in 1925, as the rule requiring the clock action to be stopped with the same hand that made the move was not introduced until very recently (at some time post-1978). But the film clip is interesting .

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    Quote Originally Posted by justaknight
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tghJ...eature=related
    This is from Moscow 1925.
    As an arbiter would you have penalised Spielman for doing the wrong thing vs Grunfeld?
    The rules were different then.
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    Thank you both! Now that I have your attention, under some old chess related photographs I have seen the caption "X and Y playing skittles"! What exactly is skittles? Chess pieces are clearly shown on the board, so I presume it either has to do with the time control (although in one of those photographs there is not clock to be seen on the relatively small table) or a chess variant maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by justaknight
    Thank you both! Now that I have your attention, under some old chess related photographs I have seen the caption "X and Y playing skittles"! What exactly is skittles?
    Just friendly games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    Just friendly games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denis_Jessop
    But the film clip is interesting .
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    If you enjoyed the clip you would sure like Dr Alekhine's BBC interview (circa late '30s) if you haven't heard it of course! Actually, I was surprised to hear the great man, very tall and impressive in statue, to possess such a rather uncharacteristically (to put it mildly)mild voice!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrH-t...eature=related
    and here is another clip (video this time) with Capa giving a simultaneous exhibition
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b8If...eature=related
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    Quote Originally Posted by justaknight
    If you enjoyed the clip you would sure like Dr Alekhine's BBC interview (circa late '30s) if you haven't heard it of course! Actually, I was surprised to hear the great man, very tall and impressive in statue, to possess such a rather uncharacteristicly (to put it mildly)mild voice!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrH-t...eature=related
    and here is another clip (video this time) with Capa giving a simultaneous exhibition
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b8If...eature=related
    Thanks very much JAK. The Alekhine interview was very good. Though he might have been mild, the BBC interviewer was a classic - I think it was Peter Sellers who, much later, did an uncannily accurate impersonation.

    By the way, the interview would not have been on tape in 1932 on the BBC as I think tape was first used by the Germans in WWII while the Brits used wire recorders, though not as early as 1932. By the sound of it I think an acetate (or similar) disc was used which I think the BBC was still using for some recordings in the 1950s.

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    the rule requiring the clock action to be stopped with the same hand that made the move was not introduced until very recently (at some time post-1978).
    Maybe this was some FIDE abberation. I'm sure if players in the early 70s in ACF events would have been pulled over for using the same hand.

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