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    Mtel Masters in Sofia

    Featuring Topalov, Carlsen, Shirov, Ivanchuk, Wang Yue, Dominguez.

    At the half-way mark:

    +1 Topalov, Carlsen, Shirov
    = Wang Yue, Dominguez
    -3 Ivanchuk

    Poor Chucky; he really has lost the plot lately. Here's his self-destruct against Topalov.

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    and another one, described by Mig as an "epic fail" against Wang Yue:

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    and how not to play the Moscow - Shirov beats him in 24 moves with black:

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    What is happening? He'll be out of the top 50 before long if he keeps this up!

    Carlsen - Topalov; check out white's 33rd:

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    Shirov seems to be resurgent; it is good to see him back in the top 10 and performing well against top opposition.
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    Topalov defeated Ivanchuk in a long game and is now +2 alongside Shirov. Carlsen leads at +3, Dominguez and Wang Yue are -1, and poor Ivanchuk is -5. Yep, that's right, 2/9, and he has fallen off the Live Top List!

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    I can only assume the significance of the final moves is that Topalov was very short of time without the increment.
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    Yes its sad about Chukky.

    But almost unnoticed, Alexei Shirov has a shot at a major tournament victory. While I'm an unabashed Carlsen fan - and hope Magnus comes at least first equal - its terrific seeing Shirov finally emerge from relative obscurity after the Kasparov-Shirov match didn't happen.

    Er, go Magnus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyD
    But almost unnoticed, Alexei Shirov has a shot at a major tournament victory. While I'm an unabashed Carlsen fan - and hope Magnus comes at least first equal - its terrific seeing Shirov finally emerge from relative obscurity after the Kasparov-Shirov match didn't happen.
    Absolutely.

    Tonight's key matchups are Shirov-Carlsen and Wang Yue-Topalov. Play starts an hour early (10pm our time).
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    Shirov defeats Carlsen and wins the tournament!

    I don't know what to make of this wild last round game really. Black goes three pawns down for a big attack and although black's practical record after white accepts the third pawn has been good, this seems to have been inflated by suspect white play. Anyway by the time Shirov makes the first new move of the game, 22.Nc2, it is already not clear that black has enough compensation, but if there is not enough compensation there then how far back must black go?

    I don't feel remotely qualified to say whether the game was a brilliant win by Shirov or if Carlsen just underprepared but it was a great game to watch. Anyway, whatever black's reason for going into such a risky last-round position with a half-point lead, it didn't work for him.

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    Shirov is back! He will go #5 in the world on the Live Top List now, ahead of one Vladimir Kramnik.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyD
    its terrific seeing Shirov finally emerge from relative obscurity after the Kasparov-Shirov match didn't happen.
    That was indeed a gross injustice; Shirov was cheated there, and ended up getting nothing from beating Kramnik convincingly while the loser got a fair payment.

    So maybe he will repeat the great success in this tourney?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    Shirov defeats Carlsen and wins the tournament!

    I don't know what to make of this wild last round game really. Black goes three pawns down for a big attack and although black's practical record after white accepts the third pawn has been good, this seems to have been inflated by suspect white play.
    A good come-back for Alexei Shirov after bombing in the 2008 Tal Memorial.

    In the deciding Shirov-Carlsen game it looks like opening up the long diagonal with 25...e3 was logical with unclear play in the offing. But what baffles me is why would Carlsen entertain complications against Shirov (of all people) when he is half a point ahead. Maybe young Magnus is an 18 year-old teenager and needs to learn these lessons like other mere mortals?

    The Bilbao Grand Slam - now limited to just four places - will seem a bit lop-sided and unrepresentative with Topalov, Karjakin, Shirov and Grischuk - but none of Anand, Carlsen, Aronian or Kramnik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    That was indeed a gross injustice; Shirov was cheated there, and ended up getting nothing from beating Kramnik convincingly while the loser got a fair payment.
    There was an offer to him to play the match against Kasparov which he rejected, but the prize fund was a bit of a joke ($400K/$200K).

    Subsequently Kasparov stated that Shirov had turned down a match for $650K/$350K but Shirov denied having ever seen this offer.
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    1. Shirov was entitled to a match under the conditions agreed to for his play-off with Kramnik.
    2. Kasparov would have won it very one-sidedly.
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    Chess Chat first

    I googled "Shirov wins"
    First two responses re game vs Magnus Carlsen were from our Forum!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by justaknight
    I googled "Shirov wins"
    First two responses re game vs Magnus Carlsen were from our Forum!!!
    Probably applies only to searches from Australia though.
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    Yes, I tried to replicate that result but was unable to do so, even when I tried "custom" and "pages from Australia".
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    I can't remember the time of my exact seach but it was there with comments from our shoutbox by Kevin! Now I tried to reproduce it a few minutes ago but it's not there anymore, it's got chessbase on top now!
    the closest i can get (but with one reference is
    http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=e...s+chat&spell=1
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    Quote Originally Posted by justaknight
    I can't remember the time of my exact seach but it was there with comments from our shoutbox by Kevin!
    I was getting that at one stage but the comment by me from our shoutbox it was highlighting was two years old and nothing to do with this tournament.

    I am now getting this thread as the first hit for "Shirov wins" when searching pages from Australia only, with the two year old shoutbox comments second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham
    I was getting that at one stage but the comment by me from our shoutbox it was highlighting was two years old and nothing to do with this tournament.

    I am now getting this thread as the first hit for "Shirov wins" when searching pages from Australia only, with the two year old shoutbox comments second.
    yes, that might as well have been the case in my original search! (which of course does not diminish the value your retrospective commentating presence!
    Now, can I have responses to the question:
    Can we seriously include Shirov to the list of potential World Champions?
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