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    P.J.O'Rourke on Leftys

    This is for you Gunner, as O'Rourke has a wonderful turn of phrase:

    America has wound up with a charming leftist as a president. And this scares me. This scares me not because I hate leftists. I don’t. I have many charming leftist friends. They’re lovely people - as long as they keep their nose out of things they don’t understand. Such as making a living.

    When charming leftists stick their nose into things they don’t understand they become ratchet-jawed purveyors of monkey-doodle and baked wind. They are piddlers upon merit, beggars at the door of accomplishment, thieves of livelihood, envy coddling tax lice applauding themselves for giving away other people’s money. They are the lap dogs of the poly sci-class, returning to the vomit of collectivism. They are pig herders tending that sow-who-eats-her-young, the welfare state. They are muck-dwelling bottom-feeders growing fat on the worries and disappointments of the electorate. They are the ditch carp of democracy.

    And that’s what one of their friends says.
    “As you perhaps know, I haven't always been a Christian. I didn't go to religion to make me happy. I always knew a bottle of port would do that. If you want a religion to make you feel really comfortable, I certainly don't recommend Christianity.” -- C.S.Lewis

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    Paying $250 HCDs right there, folks!

    That is quite possibly the most articulate, most beautiful prose that I have ever seen written on a bulletin board!

    I feel channeled! I feel plagiarised! Today is a beautiful day!

    There is no cure for leftism. Its infestation of the host mostly diminishes with age except in the most rabid of specimens.

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    For all of Thomas Sowell's faults, at least you can admire someone who doesn't feel so threatened that he has to stoop to vacuous name calling. Well, at least not paragraphs of nothing but.
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    ... but that is precisely the beauty of it ... it is so creative, as he keeps thinking up new and improved invective!
    “As you perhaps know, I haven't always been a Christian. I didn't go to religion to make me happy. I always knew a bottle of port would do that. If you want a religion to make you feel really comfortable, I certainly don't recommend Christianity.” -- C.S.Lewis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    For all of Thomas Sowell's faults, at least you can admire someone who doesn't feel so threatened that he has to stoop to vacuous name calling. Well, at least not paragraphs of nothing but.
    It's not Thomas Sowell, but regardless Baz; in the face of a such a wall of gross global social stupidity it's all many of us have left - and damn it feels good - not least of which is probably because it hits the nail so accurately.
    There is no cure for leftism. Its infestation of the host mostly diminishes with age except in the most rabid of specimens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Snail King
    ... but that is precisely the beauty of it ... it is so creative, as he keeps thinking up new and improved invective!
    Mmmm sorry but rant like the above worry me as it appeals to the heard instinct. A bit like saying everyone knows the Jews are bad because of what Luther said about them therefore we can vilify them provided we can come up with new and improved invectives. Hey presto, we're back in Nuremberg in the 30s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    Mmmm sorry but rant like the above worry me as it appeals to the heard instinct. A bit like saying everyone knows the Jews are bad because of what Luther said about them therefore we can vilify them provided we can come up with new and improved invectives. Hey presto, we're back in Nuremberg in the 30s.
    Didn't take yu long to take the discussion back to KB's rule of something or other (nazizm). You read it how you want, mate. I can assure you your dead-bat dismissal is well below the horizon of what is being ridiculed in O'Rourke's piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner Duggan
    You read it how you want, mate. I can assure you your dead bat dismissal is well below what some us see.
    Yes, I'm sure it looks good when you're one of the herd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    For all of Thomas Sowell's faults,
    What faults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    at least you can admire someone who doesn't feel so threatened that he has to stoop to vacuous name calling.
    Yes, he gives good reasons for his beliefs, and has written many books about them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    Well, at least not paragraphs of nothing but.
    Yet KB has mentioned O'Rourke's demolition of alGore with approval:

    The essence of why I detest Gore has also fallen through the cracks as there are not enough questions of the form "what is your attitude towards a candidate who is a globetrotting eco-zealot who PJ O'Rourke correctly described as having the brains of a King Charles Spaniel?"

    Also, I've previously cited O'Rourke's lambasting of what passes for the political Right in America:

    We Blew It:
    A look back in remorse on the conservative opportunity that was squandered.
    Weekly Standard 14(9), 17 November 2008.
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    “There’s no point blaming the tragedies of socialism on the flaws or corruption of particular leaders. Any system which allows some people to exercise unbridled power over others is an open invitation to abuse, whether that system is called slavery or socialism or something else.”—Thomas Sowell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    The essence of why I detest Gore has also fallen through the cracks as there are not enough questions of the form "what is your attitude towards a candidate who is a globetrotting eco-zealot who PJ O'Rourke correctly described as having the brains of a King Charles Spaniel?"
    Gore is a soft target. Even Letterman targets him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind
    Yes, I'm sure it looks good when you're one of the herd.
    I think it's interesting (or perhapds a eflection of the paucity of your options) that you chose the 'herd' defence (attack) given that lefties are the epitome of the herdist mentality: unions, meetings, marches, solidarity, coops, great tomes - all designed to perpetuate and entrap within group-think.
    There is no cure for leftism. Its infestation of the host mostly diminishes with age except in the most rabid of specimens.

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    O'Rourke does give his own side a passing razzing in that piece too:

    The Right is the party that says government doesn't work. And then they get elected and prove it.
    So while he likes abusing lefties he's far from uncritical about his own side's failings. And he's always been like that.

    That said, I've heard his speech generally wasn't all that funny and that he was largely going through the motions of being PJ O'Rourke.

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    I don't read Sowell, O'Rourke or any of the political commentators and will take KB's comments on their face. Regardless, the opening quoted post is

    pure gold for the ages
    There is no cure for leftism. Its infestation of the host mostly diminishes with age except in the most rabid of specimens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner Duggan
    ... the herdist mentality: unions, meetings, marches, solidarity, coops, great tomes - all designed to perpetuate and entrap within group-think.
    Hey, that's an accurate NAZI party description!
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    Quote Originally Posted by justaknight
    Hey, that's an accurate NAZI party description!
    Nope. The nazis fail the 'great tomes' for starters. While a few books may have been penned, they were more monuments to self than anything. Lefty books (of proven unworkable drivel) are widely picked-up voluntarily by the weak-minded and eagerly passed around as the great awakening. Not at all true of (the handful of teenage) voluntary nazis outside of the 1934-1944 crockpot.
    There is no cure for leftism. Its infestation of the host mostly diminishes with age except in the most rabid of specimens.

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