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shazz
03-10-2003, 07:40 AM
hi :D

skip to my lou
03-10-2003, 07:41 AM
welcome shazz :D

SoFTuaRiaL™
03-10-2003, 08:30 AM
HI everybody!

This is the place to introduce urself! :D

I'm Vignesh Kannan, a first year student at UNSW doing Software Engineering and Actuarial.

Have a nice day!

Rahul
03-10-2003, 11:16 AM
i'm rahul raina. i'm in yr 12 and go to patrician brothers blacktown.

Winston
03-10-2003, 12:13 PM
Hey guys i don't think i need to intro myself LOL!

SoFTuaRiaL™
03-10-2003, 12:20 PM
Hey guys i don't think i need to intro myself LOL!

winnay, this isnt a sub forum of bos .... dont expect all members to be from bos ...

the_chess_master
03-10-2003, 12:35 PM
hi..

ppl like to call me the_chess_master cos i am good at chess...but thats a long time ago...

u can call me Jim...

Dash
03-10-2003, 01:34 PM
I'm Dash, yr 12, go to Patrician Brother Blacktown :P

Dash
03-10-2003, 01:35 PM
Hehe... looks like everyone wants their post count up :D *spam*

skip to my lou
03-10-2003, 01:36 PM
welcome dash :D

03-10-2003, 02:19 PM
haha i know several people at patrician brothers!!! :D

SoFTuaRiaL™
03-10-2003, 02:59 PM
Hehe... looks like everyone wants their post count up :D *spam*

doesnt matter! u're gonna be a pawn for a loooong time :twisted:

Rahul
03-10-2003, 03:12 PM
Hehe... looks like everyone wants their post count up :D *spam*
just be careful mate! 8)

the_chess_master
03-10-2003, 03:27 PM
i know one..his name is huy :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

vosinn
03-10-2003, 03:41 PM
:)

skip to my lou
03-10-2003, 03:45 PM
welcome :!:

Merethrond
03-10-2003, 03:46 PM
I go to St. Francis Xavier's College Hamilton (in Newcastle) :).

Merethrond
03-10-2003, 03:47 PM
i'm rahul raina. i'm in yr 12 and go to patrician brothers blacktown.

My dad went there when he was young :D!

Dash
03-10-2003, 03:58 PM
Hehe... looks like everyone wants their post count up :D *spam*
just be careful mate! 8) :shock: Don't ban me... :P

Rahul
03-10-2003, 04:41 PM
Hehe... looks like everyone wants their post count up :D *spam*
just be careful mate! 8) :shock: Don't ban me... :P
i will if i have to...

Supra
03-10-2003, 04:49 PM
hello ppl, wots the rationale behind this forum, is there a chess game somewhere on this site or wot??

skip to my lou
03-10-2003, 04:55 PM
http://www.chesskit.com

http://www.chesskit.com/training/ for chess training

http://www.chesskit.com/training/ocp/ to play

Beaky
03-10-2003, 05:59 PM
Sup peoples

Rahul
03-10-2003, 06:07 PM
hi!
welcome....

uts
03-10-2003, 08:04 PM
So, when will a phpBB chess mod be invented?

skip to my lou
03-10-2003, 08:07 PM
Mid November, you will be able to post games and positions.

Saum
03-10-2003, 08:41 PM
I got told to pop in and say hi...so hi everyone. Good luck with this forum.

SonicInspiration
03-10-2003, 08:56 PM
Ah well done Jeo :twisted:
good luck with the site

04-10-2003, 03:04 PM
hey chand!!

Saum
04-10-2003, 10:36 PM
hiya dreamer...nice position as mod 8) :P

Gandalf
05-10-2003, 12:17 AM
Hey guys i don't think i need to intro myself LOL!I think he means he doesn't need to say anything because his name is actually Winston.

BrainsUK
05-10-2003, 04:10 AM
I'm Sam Gower, Year 11 :-)
If anyone could give an intermediate player a few quick tips via MSN Messenger, I'd be grateful :-)

BrainsUK
05-10-2003, 04:16 AM
Greetings!

skip to my lou
05-10-2003, 04:16 AM
Welcome Sam!

Check out http://www.chesskit.com/training/

Rahul
05-10-2003, 05:12 PM
wow someone from england...welcome my friend :D

BrainsUK
05-10-2003, 09:13 PM
I still find it hard to do this visualisation stuff :-)

Brandon
09-10-2003, 04:54 PM
Hi, Im Brandon,
Im 24, I just started playing chess about 4 months ago. I like this site because I can discretely play against the sparring partner and hide it from my boss while Im at work hehe. Ive purchased a lot of chess books recently, and in the same spirit Ive browsed a lot of chess related sites, this one seems to fit my needs quite nicely. Im anxious to see this feature of adding chess positions to the forums, I suspect it would make visualizing variations more plausible for a beginner like myself (I tend to get lost trying to follow a game past 10 moves). Great site, I'll be back often ;)

skip to my lou
09-10-2003, 05:16 PM
Welcome Brandon :)

The Forum PGN and FEN features (game and position display) should be up by november 7th, and online multiplayer chess, i.e play against someone else, should be up end of november.

Thank you

ImmortalP
12-10-2003, 05:32 PM
I play chess seriously for few months. I study biology at www.ibo.org Would be cool to c u via messengers.. That's where I train: http://www.chess.lt/cgi_bin/default.asp?Lang=E
;) c my homepage plz

BrainsUK
12-10-2003, 06:23 PM
Welcome Immortal.

pigs_can_fly
13-10-2003, 02:42 PM
hei ppls
i usually just play social chess...im alrite, nuthing brilliant
might have some games wit u guys...but after hsc :D

Gandalf
14-10-2003, 07:07 PM
Welcome pigs! You'll be able to figure out who I am soon enough ;)

pigs_can_fly
14-10-2003, 08:55 PM
lol...implemented :D

King
15-10-2003, 07:36 AM
Hi everyone! My names Todd I'm 14 and I love chess since I was in 1st grade. :)

Gandalf
16-10-2003, 02:02 AM
Welcome Todd! Do you play in school tournament or anything?

mercury
16-10-2003, 01:54 PM
yo, another intro place. I've only played in very few tournaments, a lot improvement needed. great site for chess fans indeed. look forward to playing some of you... in one or two month time :D

xiao1985
16-10-2003, 10:52 PM
hihiz pplz....... xiao here, goin to fort st, goin to uni whichi dunno which one (hopefully usyd, ifnot den umacq for acturial)..... newyz, played abit interschool chess, tounament etc... look fward to play some one..... :p

Gandalf
17-10-2003, 11:11 AM
Eh? Fort Street? :D You should know me then. It's Robert.

flyin'
18-10-2003, 09:28 PM
Hello, I'm flyin'. So many recognisable BoSers around... =p

( Btw, I refuse to use the forum smiley faces, they just don't cut it! )

skip to my lou
18-10-2003, 09:51 PM
Welcome flyin'

Will be fixed soon.

xiao1985
18-10-2003, 10:18 PM
Eh? Fort Street? :D You should know me then. It's Robert.

ohhhhh hi robert... didn't noe u play chess too...... lolz, didn't c too many pplz around chess room these days, since its closed down......

affinity
19-10-2003, 10:04 PM
yr 12, parramatta high

probably com/sci UNSW next year

Gandalf
19-10-2003, 10:36 PM
Hey Xiao, you shouldn't be worried about the chess room because in three weeks you'll never see it again! :) Uni chess is way better anyway (or so I am told) and trust me, we're all getting into uni.

xiao1985
20-10-2003, 03:22 PM
haha, yea!!! no more school chess, only uni chess MUAHAHAHAHA.... ne wayz cuz of unions in uniz i wanna go to usyd sooooooo dsperately..... but den, apparently, can't find nice course to go to... like sci in usyd is alrite yeah?? but den, my parents are like...... u wanna do sci?? i kill u...... so i am like,...... oh well...... prolly nxt time ><

hey, hello affinity..... wish i'd had a nice name like urs..... lolz..... wantin to play you again some time after the hsc..... hehe ;)

edit: hey!!! affinity!!! u told me u wanna goto usyd!!! btw, i heard unsw union sux..... at least not as well as those in usyd..... just rumours tho =P

Gandalf
20-10-2003, 11:37 PM
Don't believe any rumours until you're actually enrolled, the unions always tell the students these things to influence memberships :p

mercury
28-10-2003, 02:34 AM
usyd for science and law usually.
me = adv science @ usyd in 2004

xiao1985
28-10-2003, 07:43 PM
usyd for science and law usually.
me = adv science @ usyd in 2004

adv sci only?? i think u r capable of far more than that!!! but hey!! there r pplz passionate abt sciences..... =P

i wanted to do adv sci badly at usyd too, but... *sigh~~~* guess i can only look fwd to a compromise.......

mercury
28-10-2003, 08:32 PM
a combined degree - takes one extra year if i do honours, that is combined law would probably turn to 6 years.... too long.
it's also inflexible... unless I do B Arts/B Sc or something, I can't choose language as elective. Then again, I should consider the international studies course, since I'm really interested in languages.

No final final decision yet :o

Gandalf
29-10-2003, 12:48 AM
I should consider the international studies course, since I'm really interested in languages.Mercury which school did you go to? Do you know me? Answer in PM. :) And don't complain about 6 years being too long, I'm going for Medicine/Arts (International Stuies) [MBBS/BIntStds] which will be 7 years, but then there's internship and postgrad, so all up I'll be in there for 16 years at least. If you have an arts degree in your portfolio you can choose language subjects as minors or major in a language. Oh yeah. If I get into Monash and not UNSW I'll be doing Medlaw [MBBS/LLB] which I think is also 7 years? So...shut up.

pigs_can_fly
01-11-2003, 02:40 PM
hahah...gandalf
omg. u so sound like my friend (frigid from BOS) "me wanna do med/law at monash...blablablab"

oh dear...don't tell me ur doing it for the title and the mbbs/llb at the end?
geez...mercury, maybe u should do like advanced liberal studies or something?

Gandalf
06-11-2003, 10:56 AM
Haha yeah Frigid... Well, I'm doing it because I've had an interest in both my whole life, and I'm told I'd do very well in both fields.

pigs_can_fly
16-11-2003, 08:01 PM
well good luck to you...i certainly would not want to do both...but thats just me :D

Gandalf
16-11-2003, 09:12 PM
Pigs, mister 100, you're probably the only one that COULD do both...

Speaking of which, could you tell me what MBBS and LLB stand for? I can't be bothered searching Latin acronyms at the moment.

Kevin Bonham
01-01-2004, 05:06 PM
Hi everyone,

As the old Australian Chess Federation BB has been merged onto this site it's probably not a bad idea for at least some of us from the old BBs to introduce ourselves over here.

I'm one of Tasmania's leading players, state champ in 2001-2 (but not 03 alas) and currently top of the Tassie rating list by a whole seven points at ACF 1951. No ELO rating because I don't get off the island very often and the only time I played in an ELO rated tournament my result ... um, wasn't very good.

I'm secretary of the Tas Chess Association and its rep on the ACF Council, and also have other ACF involvements including selections and the constitutional subcommittee. I'm also a very experienced arbiter.

I work (sometimes) as a consultant in invertebrate ecology, and have also worked in student media, including editing the Hobart uni magazine Togatus for a couple of years. I've recently finished being a professional student - BA in philosophy and political science, Honours in environmental studies, PhD in biogeography (snails if you must know. No dumb jokes please, unless you've got one I haven't heard before).

That'll do for now. Cheers all.

arosar
02-01-2004, 02:01 PM
. . . (snails if you must know. No dumb jokes please, unless you've got one I haven't heard before).

Never heard a snail joke. Give us one.

AR

Rincewind
02-01-2004, 02:08 PM
Never heard a snail joke. Give us one.

Here you go. (No doubt Kevin has heard it though).

Snail walks into a bar and orders a beer. The barman says "Sorry, I can't serve you". "Why not?", asks the snail, "This is the third pub I've been in and no one will serve me." The barman says, "It's just resposible service of alcohol and you're already legless!"

Rincewind
02-01-2004, 02:12 PM
Here's one no one would have heard of, as I just thought it up.

Have you heard about the French contribution to the International Space Station? It's the catering module called the gastro-pod.

:rolleyes:

Kevin Bonham
02-01-2004, 02:13 PM
Yes Barry, I have heard the first one, but not often. Here's some more, I did a quick web search and found this page, all but one of which I had heard before.

http://ast.leeds.ac.uk/~agg/snails/joke.html

Gandalf
04-01-2004, 12:31 PM
I'm not sure if you are very serious or very lame, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I can see God in Physics, but in Chess I see only war.

For those who want to know, I am a practising Roman Catholic.

PHAT
04-01-2004, 02:35 PM
Chess is undoubtably combative, but it is a poor analogy for war. To compare them is to degrade/minimise to gravity and lawlessness of war.

Gandalf
04-01-2004, 02:49 PM
I see what you mean. What I was talking about was classical warfare, where armies would meet head to head, and technology played no part to tactics in who marched to victory. Modern war doesn't require intelligence to conduct, simply money and time.

chesslover
04-01-2004, 03:13 PM
I see what you mean. What I was talking about was classical warfare, where armies would meet head to head, and technology played no part to tactics in who marched to victory. Modern war doesn't require intelligence to conduct, simply money and time.

from what I understand, chess was created in India as a substitute for war. There used to be a king who went to war often and was away from home. His queen asked for a game to be invented. and the game invented was chess, which uses the analogy of war.

When chess went to REurope some of it's rules got modified, and some pieces got changed in name and fucntion

skip to my lou
04-01-2004, 03:15 PM
Yes that is what I have heard also.

I think theres a thread somewhere explaining the orgins of chess.

skip to my lou
04-01-2004, 03:15 PM
Ah here we go:

http://www.chesschat.org/viewtopic.php?t=40

arosar
04-01-2004, 04:12 PM
There are two books on the history of chess that I can fully recommend.

1.) Eales, R. "The History of a Game"
2.) Murray, HJR, "A History of Chess"

I have both this books - bought from Parr. Parr recently acquired some copies of Murray's actually - all in HB. Better get 'em now.

AR

Rincewind
04-01-2004, 09:06 PM
I see what you mean. What I was talking about was classical warfare, where armies would meet head to head, and technology played no part to tactics in who marched to victory. Modern war doesn't require intelligence to conduct, simply money and time.

I think technology played a bigger part in classical warfare than you give it credit. Earthern works, greek fire, longbowmen, the franc with the invention of the stirrup, gunpowder, trebuchets, etc, etc, etc. The history of mankind is filled with attempts to steal a march on his foe with technological advances.

Kevin Bonham
04-01-2004, 11:29 PM
Greetings fellow chess lovers 8)

I look forward to being part of your life as God is part of mine.

Paul Davies sees God in the mathematics of modern physics. Does anyone here see God in the chess board.

I've deleted this post because of the .sig.

But it's worth quoting, because it's blatantly obvious who it is. :D :D :D

chesslover
04-01-2004, 11:33 PM
Greetings fellow chess lovers 8)

I look forward to being part of your life as God is part of mine.

Paul Davies sees God in the mathematics of modern physics. Does anyone here see God in the chess board.

I've deleted this post because of the .sig.

But it's worth quoting, because it's blatantly obvious who it is. :D :D :D

what do you mean .sig?? what is that, and why delete because of it? :? :?

what is blatantly obvious?? :? :?

Kevin Bonham
04-01-2004, 11:53 PM
.sig is signature file - the bit below the line at the bottom of the post.

It was a parody of Christian ideas with an obvious sexual connotation.

Beyond that I will say this:

:-#

chesslover
05-01-2004, 12:14 AM
.sig is signature file - the bit below the line at the bottom of the post.

It was a parody of Christian ideas with an obvious sexual connotation.

Beyond that I will say this:

:-#

how can I fgure out who it is, if you delete the .sig file and the post?

Information is Power :P

Kevin Bonham
05-01-2004, 02:50 AM
how can I fgure out who it is, if you delete the .sig file and the post?

I have quoted the entire post, you are missing only the .sig and you have my characterisation of it.

There is no hope for anyone who can't pick this.

antichrist
05-01-2004, 02:53 PM
I'm not sure if you are very serious or very lame, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I can see God in Physics, but in Chess I see only war.

For those who want to know, I am a practising Roman Catholic.

If two opponents playing correspondence chess passed away, one went to Heaven and the other to Hell, they continued playing and one had God on his side and the the crafty Devil, who would win??

The only thing I see in chess is unpredictibility.

Rincewind
05-01-2004, 03:12 PM
how can I fgure out who it is, if you delete the .sig file and the post?

I have quoted the entire post, you are missing only the .sig and you have my characterisation of it.

There is no hope for anyone who can't pick this.

Yeah. Get real, Ezekiel! :D

chesslover
05-01-2004, 06:01 PM
how can I fgure out who it is, if you delete the .sig file and the post?

I have quoted the entire post, you are missing only the .sig and you have my characterisation of it.

There is no hope for anyone who can't pick this.

Yeah. Get real, Ezekiel! :D

was that person who posted, the easter bunny? (get it!!)

PHAT
05-01-2004, 06:22 PM
was that person who posted, the easter bunny? (get it!!)

FMD CL! It was "Flecher Christian 4 chess". Don't YOU get it? Who is Flecher Christian?

chesslover
05-01-2004, 06:57 PM
was that person who posted, the easter bunny? (get it!!)

FMD CL! It was "Flecher Christian 4 chess". Don't YOU get it? Who is Flecher Christian?

a person in the bounty ship? the founder of Norfolk island?

and the relevence is what? :? :?

PHAT
05-01-2004, 07:10 PM
a person in the bounty ship? the founder of Norfolk island?

and the relevence is what? :? :?

:D ROTFLMAO

You just gotta put the horse before the cart and "le" reverse.

chesslover
05-01-2004, 07:30 PM
a person in the bounty ship? the founder of Norfolk island?

and the relevence is what? :? :?

:D ROTFLMAO

You just gotta put the horse before the cart and "le" reverse.

I have no idea who it is, or what you aretalking about

Just tell me or PM me with the identity if you want

I really have no burning need to know, was just curious

Trent Parker
08-01-2004, 04:48 PM
For Those who are not from the old ACF BB

I am Trent Parker, 24, Studying a Bcommerce majoring in accounting (which I will be finishing in the middle of this year - Hoorayy!). I am from Picton N.S.W (A Town that the Canberra XPlorer and Melbourne XPT flies past) But hopfully be out of there as soon as I start full time work. I am currently member w/out portfolio on the NSWCA Council. My pathetic chess rating is only 1181 but I enjoy chess anyway.

chesslover
08-01-2004, 06:06 PM
. My pathetic chess rating is only 1181 but I enjoy chess anyway.

No rating is pathetic :(

Chess should be fun, not played for ratings :)

Kevin Bonham
08-01-2004, 07:56 PM
Hey Trent, you're only three points behind Sweeney. Your mission, should you choose to accept it ... Bill, I think you should give this man some free chess coaching. :D

PHAT
09-01-2004, 07:02 AM
Oh no, Kevin. Trent and I share and relish eachother's victories. There will be no divide and conquer here. :)

Garvinator
30-01-2004, 09:08 AM
Oh no, Kevin. Trent and I share and relish eachother's victories. There will be no divide and conquer here. :)
is the cheque on the way matt? :hmm:

PHAT
03-02-2004, 02:35 PM
is the cheque on the way matt? :hmm:
Actually it is written and so is Jenny's :sad: and they are sitting on my desk mocking me and awaiting and addressed envelope each. What is yours?

Rincewind
04-02-2004, 10:00 AM
Actually it is written and so is Jenny's :sad: and they are sitting on my desk mocking me and awaiting and addressed envelope each. What is yours?

Garvin/Jenni,

Have you considered donating your winnings to worthy chess cause, like the Olympiad Appeal Fund? ;)

Just a suggestion. It's your money, of course, and you are free to do with it as you will. :)

Garvinator
04-02-2004, 10:44 AM
Actually it is written and so is Jenny's :sad: and they are sitting on my desk mocking me and awaiting and addressed envelope each. What is yours?
i have sent you a pm matt

Garvinator
04-02-2004, 10:46 AM
Garvin/Jenni,

Have you considered donating your winnings to worthy chess cause, like the Olympiad Appeal Fund? ;)

Just a suggestion. It's your money, of course, and you are free to do with it as you will. :)
I have plans for that money and it is chess related, so I am not running off with it :uhoh:

It might go to my chess club membership or I might donate it to a weekender tourney that our club is planning on running at some stage this year :clap: , with my organisation of course :eek:

jenni
02-03-2004, 09:23 AM
Garvin/Jenni,

Have you considered donating your winnings to worthy chess cause, like the Olympiad Appeal Fund? ;)

Just a suggestion. It's your money, of course, and you are free to do with it as you will. :)

Just read this - don't stray into these forums too often! Matthew's $20 was donated to the ACTJCL - the Olympiad is a very worthy cause but the ACTJCL needs money too, as we have just spent nearly $4,000 on trestle tables for our "chess centre" and we are pretty strapped for cash at the moment.

arosar
02-03-2004, 09:29 AM
Dunno where I got this info from, maybe I just made it up, but I thought you owned a multi-million dollar IT business Mrs Oliver!

AR

jenni
02-03-2004, 09:42 AM
Dunno where I got this info from, maybe I just made it up, but I thought you owned a multi-million dollar IT business Mrs Oliver!

AR
I wish! I own a small IT business which has been struggling since the boom days of 2000. Anyone who knows anything about IT, would know it hasn't been good for a number of years. In fact there is so much unemployment in the Australian IT market that Immigration has removed IT off the list of desired skills.

Most of our business is with the Federal Government, but right at the moment our major clients have no money and are busy getting rid of resources - we lost 20 contractors just before Christmas - very depressing. Because we are small, we view many of the people who work for us as friends and so share the pain.

I have over the years donated quite a lot of money to chess (and to the ACTJCL) and will do so this year as we will be the sponsor of the Young and Junior Masters, but I am cutting costs in every direction, as one does when times are bad.

arosar
02-03-2004, 02:12 PM
. . . In fact there is so much unemployment in the Australian IT market that Immigration has removed IT off the list of desired skills.

They're very clever, aren't they these Canberra polies? I mean, why would you need to have skilled labour comin' in when you can more easily export jobs out to those Indians?

Wasn't there some kinda dispute between the ACS and the fed government over what's supposed to be the true picture of unemployment in the IT sector?

AR

jenni
02-03-2004, 03:03 PM
They're very clever, aren't they these Canberra polies? I mean, why would you need to have skilled labour comin' in when you can more easily export jobs out to those Indians?

Wasn't there some kinda dispute between the ACS and the fed government over what's supposed to be the true picture of unemployment in the IT sector?

AR

Yes there was - unfortunately the government is slow to react, because they are relying on historical data, whereas the ACS was more aware of the true picture. Leading up to 2000 there was a major IT skills shortfall and lots of people were coming into the country from all sorts of countries. There were fast track ways of getting them in. Unfortunately when the slowdown hit, the Governement was still letting people in. There were people coming in as IT contractors, who were ending up driving taxis and the like. It all ended up very messy!

I think India is going to be a major source of cheap software for years to come - they have a very skilled set of programmers over there and obviously much more profitable for companies to have work done over there. Will hit our talented Australians badly. One has to wonder about security and issues like that long term.

skip to my lou
02-03-2004, 04:33 PM
Yes there was - unfortunately the government is slow to react, because they are relying on historical data, whereas the ACS was more aware of the true picture. Leading up to 2000 there was a major IT skills shortfall and lots of people were coming into the country from all sorts of countries. There were fast track ways of getting them in. Unfortunately when the slowdown hit, the Governement was still letting people in. There were people coming in as IT contractors, who were ending up driving taxis and the like. It all ended up very messy!

I think India is going to be a major source of cheap software for years to come - they have a very skilled set of programmers over there and obviously much more profitable for companies to have work done over there. Will hit our talented Australians badly. One has to wonder about security and issues like that long term.

China is the source for cheap software, not India.

skip to my lou
02-03-2004, 04:37 PM
Someone I know studied some average IT course in Madras Institute of Technology and he gets $100k USD as a Java programmer...

jenni
02-03-2004, 05:25 PM
China is the source for cheap software, not India.
I haven't heard that?? Most of the gossip in the industry is about USA and Australian companies setting up R&D centres and help desk call centres in India?

jenni
02-03-2004, 05:34 PM
Someone I know studied some average IT course in Madras Institute of Technology and he gets $100k USD as a Java programmer...
That may be true, but on the whole you will pay much less to develop software in India (or run help desks or whatever). The market has been pretty bad in Aus for nearly 4 years and even so contractors are earning between $100,000 and $250,000 a year (if they have a job of course!)

skip to my lou
02-03-2004, 07:35 PM
I haven't heard that?? Most of the gossip in the industry is about USA and Australian companies setting up R&D centres and help desk call centres in India?

You get what you pay for in India, however in China you can get some pretty good stuff at low low costs.

skip to my lou
02-03-2004, 07:42 PM
That may be true, but on the whole you will pay much less to develop software in India (or run help desks or whatever). The market has been pretty bad in Aus for nearly 4 years and even so contractors are earning between $100,000 and $250,000 a year (if they have a job of course!)

As I said, you get what you pay for. Most good sized companies realise its much better to get top quality programmers and take them to the US and pay them heaps of money. (70%+ of Microsoft are Indians, IBM has a large percentage too). What these companies do is go to IIT and MIT and such institutes in India and grab new graduates and take them over to US. My friends dad is IIT graduate and he is a boss in IBM Australia and gets something like 350k/year.

All these help desks in India probably DO NOT have professionals, but rather people that just got 1 week training before starting job. Something like maccas, where you get the training then get $8 per hour or something shitty like that.

jenni
02-03-2004, 08:47 PM
All these help desks in India probably DO NOT have professionals, but rather people that just got 1 week training before starting job. Something like maccas, where you get the training then get $8 per hour or something shitty like that.
I think that is plan from what I have heard - long term it is bound to cause problems, but some of these companies are really short sighted and can only see immediate benefits.

skip to my lou
02-03-2004, 09:32 PM
India is going to be a major source of cheap software


I think that is plan from what I have heard - long term it is bound to cause problems, but some of these companies are really short sighted and can only see immediate benefits.

Then they are not really IT professionals or programmers.

jenni
03-03-2004, 01:05 PM
Then they are not really IT professionals or programmers.

exactly - unfortunately the companies don't give a stuff, as long as they can get the work done on the cheap.

skip to my lou
03-03-2004, 01:09 PM
exactly - unfortunately the companies don't give a stuff, as long as they can get the work done on the cheap.


India is going to be a major source of cheap software

Then you said that they have cheapo helpdesks in India. They dont write software in helpdesks... do they?! :confused: :eek:

jenni
03-03-2004, 07:31 PM
Then you said that they have cheapo helpdesks in India. They dont write software in helpdesks... do they?! :confused: :eek:

Well no doubt with your contacts in India, you know more of what is going on. However all I made was an off the cuff comment on what is being spoken about in my Industry circles. The average IT salary in India is quoted as US$40,000, which is really low.

The old Eastern block is also starting to be used extensively, by USA companies, with work being moved to places like the Ukraine etc - there hasn't been a major trend in Australia as yet, apart from help desk/call centre stuff. Most of problems here are with the large no of foreign nationals allowed in on work visas, even after the work had dropped off.

Rincewind
03-03-2004, 07:47 PM
They are doing more than just level 1 support in India. It's really attractive for the US as the cost of labour is something like 50% that of domestic labour. This makes it practically a no-brainer, even by accepting some risks and inefficiencies due to time-zone and language/cultural differences, etc.

In Australia, the labour difference between here ar India is more like 85% so the cost and benefits need to be weighed up more carefully. If fact, US off-shoring could be of benefit to Australia if we can sell our services to the US. We need to market ourselves as not quite as cheap as India but a better cultural fit and a bit closer time-zone wise (between Western USA and Eastern Australia, anyway).

jenni
03-03-2004, 07:52 PM
Have a look at this site

http://itoutsourcingindia.com/


or this one

http://www.ishir.com/

This is typical of what is being set up in India today (and other countries).

skip to my lou
03-03-2004, 08:28 PM
Dunno about those companies, but I do know Microsoft has build Redmond centres in India, because I have studied in them. I know quite a few of the lecturers and they do write software on demand for companies such as Sun, Microsoft, IBM etc. They get paid heaps more than 40k, but 40k is still alot in India:

Last time I was in india, it was 27 rupee per AUD, dunno how it is now. But in India, everything that is not imported, 2 rupee is almost like 1 dollar. So if you want to buy a family meal and you spend 60 rupee, imagine it to be $30 worth of food, but actually you are only spending just over $2.

Actually I think many people would be happy with a $40k USD salary here in AUS. I think most IT professions in AUS you start of with $30k AUD

skip to my lou
03-03-2004, 08:34 PM
Well no doubt with your contacts in India, you know more of what is going on. However all I made was an off the cuff comment on what is being spoken about in my Industry circles.

I just didn't want to get involved in the crap that goes on in other parts of the forums, thats all :)

jenni
04-03-2004, 08:23 AM
Dunno about those companies, but I do know Microsoft has build Redmond centres in India, because I have studied in them. I know quite a few of the lecturers and they do write software on demand for companies such as Sun, Microsoft, IBM etc. They get paid heaps more than 40k, but 40k is still alot in India:

Last time I was in india, it was 27 rupee per AUD, dunno how it is now. But in India, everything that is not imported, 2 rupee is almost like 1 dollar. So if you want to buy a family meal and you spend 60 rupee, imagine it to be $30 worth of food, but actually you are only spending just over $2.

Actually I think many people would be happy with a $40k USD salary here in AUS. I think most IT professions in AUS you start of with $30k AUD

I think like any other country, India has a range of top professionals (and I am actually quite admiring of Indian professionals, as we have a number who work for us). There is no doubt though, that companies in the USA are taking advantage of the cost structures in India to be able to have work done much more cheaply than they can develop it in their home countries.

The USD40,000 is an average - obviously there are a lot lower than that and some higher. Also remember that is the total cost - when you look at Aus or USA salaries, you have to look at the package. Aus salaries have a lot of hidden oncosts e.g. To the dollars in hand you have to add superannuation, workers compensation, profesional indemnity, public holidays, annual leave, payroll tax, provision for long service, sick leave, training, etc etc. In the USA you also have medical insurance which is pretty much an essential as an employee benefit.

It isn't critical of India - they are exploring a cost difference that is benficial to them. Currently Australia hasn't followed the trend, however if they did it would have a severe impact on our IT industry.

ursogr8
04-03-2004, 08:36 AM
India - they are exploring a cost difference that is beneficial to them. Currently Australia hasn't followed the trend, however if they did it would have a severe impact on our IT industry.

hi jenni

The trend has certainly started where I sit.
Currently involved in managing 450 jobs, previously servicing Telstra, to be moved to India. Start date of transistion 9 March 2004.
starter

jenni
04-03-2004, 09:55 AM
hi jenni

The trend has certainly started where I sit.
Currently involved in managing 450 jobs, previously servicing Telstra, to be moved to India. Start date of transistion 9 March 2004.
starter

I did know about Telstra, but am hoping it is an isolated case (albeit a big one). Does anyone else know of any other companies doing the same, or outsourcing developement outside of Australia?

ursogr8
04-03-2004, 10:01 AM
I did know about Telstra, but am hoping it is an isolated case (albeit a big one). Does anyone else know of any other companies doing the same, or outsourcing developement outside of Australia?
hi jenni
Yes, I also have staff at ANZ where it has been in place for a while.
Incidentally, the other side of the coin is that we are cheaper than US and Canada and have won work from them to be done in Ballarat, VIC; have had the work for 6 months through 3 version releases.
Has become a standard offering.
starter

jenni
04-03-2004, 10:05 AM
hi jenni
Yes, I also have staff at ANZ where it has been in place for a while.
Incidentally, the other side of the coin is that we are cheaper than US and Canada and have won work from them to be done in Ballarat, VIC; have had the work for 6 months through 3 version releases.
Has become a standard offering.
starter
Yes I guess we are always happy when we win overseas work, but don't like it too much the other way!

skip to my lou
04-03-2004, 12:18 PM
Aus salaries have a lot of hidden oncosts e.g. To the dollars in hand you have to add superannuation, workers compensation, profesional indemnity, public holidays, annual leave, payroll tax, provision for long service, sick leave, training, etc etc. In the USA you also have medical insurance which is pretty much an essential as an employee benefit.

I guess so. That would save heaps of $$ if the companies didn't have to provide this sort of stuff. But also, I think few pay taxes in India.

arosar
04-03-2004, 12:46 PM
Now if this dang AUD could just go down a bit more that'd be good!

AR

ursogr8
04-03-2004, 01:47 PM
Now if this dang AUD could just go down a bit more that'd be good!

AR

hi AR
If this comment about the Aussie dollar was meant to imply that on the IT global sourcing issue that a 15% reduction in the A$ would be useful for us, then you are 'whistling in the dark'.
At the moment the equivalent analyst/programmer from India costs about 1/3rd the Aussie propeller-head.
The A$ would have to go down to 24.8centsUS on todays rates for the salaries (incl. overheads) to become competitive.
We will never win the contracts against India IT on cost.
But there are other factors in favour of the home-side. Sadly, IP considerations prevent me from typing them here. ;)
starter

PHAT
04-03-2004, 07:12 PM
But there are other factors in favour of the home-side. Sadly, IP considerations prevent me from typing them here.


Ahem ahem. This is like, "Yes, I could tell you what my line of work is - but then I would have to kill you" - bollocks.

ursogr8
04-03-2004, 09:17 PM
Ahem ahem. This is like, "Yes, I could tell you what my line of work is - but then I would have to kill you" - bollocks.

Matt
I thought it would be a little like telling the reader 'how to suck eggs' by posting the routine points of how to make an IT bid with Aus. based resources in competition with a globally sourced bid. It is a standard list:
> focus on quality arguments
>> focus on speed of response (since being local)
>>> focus on compatible cultures
you know the sort of thing.
Just try to turn the negotiation away from the cost-differential.

We have a generic template of how to make the bid, as would any large Australian-based supplier.

The throw-away line about the IP was followed by an emoticon; did you not notice.

I don't think I deserved the 'bollocks'. Have I hit the mark now?

Helpfully yours, starter

chesslover
04-03-2004, 09:59 PM
I did know about Telstra, but am hoping it is an isolated case (albeit a big one). Does anyone else know of any other companies doing the same, or outsourcing developement outside of Australia?

In the US, the outsourcing of jobs to India, mexico, china etc has become one of the most critical political issues in the Presidential electiosn there. That will also be an issue in Australian elections, and Costello also attacked telstra for moving jobs offshore

I think that the big companies in an election year like 2004 in both US and Australia will be wary of moving any jobs offshore, as the politicians will jump on that to resonate with the voters.

However after the elections is another story altogether ;)

arosar
10-03-2004, 09:42 AM
Hey boys....I got this file which is a recording of a Telstra tech support in India. VERY FUNNY!! There is also a cricket theme to it. You want it? I can email to youse.

AR

skip to my lou
10-03-2004, 08:14 PM
please do email! :)

Jeo.rajendran@uts.edu.au

PHAT
10-03-2004, 09:39 PM
Hey boys....I got this file which is a recording of a Telstra tech support in India. VERY FUNNY!! There is also a cricket theme to it. You want it? I can email to youse.

AR

send it to me

skip to my lou
11-03-2004, 01:07 PM
v.v funny.. thx arosar! :D :)

flyin'
30-03-2004, 07:35 PM
Almost feel like a new member, most things look so different now, then when they were months ago. :clap:

Rincewind
13-04-2004, 06:26 PM
Welcome the Chess Kit's newest member, Guy West!

Always good to have strong players contributing to the online community and as a former Australian Chess and (if memory serves) Correspondence Chess Champion you would have an informed opinion interesting perspective on many of the chess threads.

jenni
21-04-2004, 08:26 PM
Chesslover seemed to want an introduction. Not too sure what he wants to know!

I am in my fifties and my family is the most important thing in my life, which probably as a practising Catholic I shouldn't say!

I have my own IT Services business, but have always worked from home and telecommuted in order to be able to be with the children and not use child care. This has no doubt kept the business small but is worth it. I now have a whole office full of staff who seem to have the same values.

I learnt chess because my children did - I find it a fascinating game and wish I had discovered it at an early age, when I had the ability and time to be good at it.

I have been involved in chess admin for around 9 years.

I was not born in Australia, but migrated here, on my own, at the age of 24.

I tend to be on the liberal side, so probably won't delete your posts or censor them too often, but will try and maintain the standards as explained to me by my fellow moderators.

Darklord
02-08-2004, 05:57 PM
Not Sure whether i am in right place. As usual i was going through my chess stuff on internet when i found this forum. Is this strictly for australians only? i am an indian and joined this forum thinking this is a general chess club. Do let me know if otherwise

Alan Shore
02-08-2004, 06:16 PM
Hi Darklord, this forum's for everyone, so welcome aboard. Of course there is a lot of discussion revolving around Australian chess but anything goes really.

Garvinator
03-08-2004, 01:51 AM
hello darklord, this forum is for everyone of all ages and nationalities, but the high majority are from the australian chess scene, or who are australians living overseas. If you post regularly, we could learn how things are done in india :D

Darklord
04-08-2004, 12:07 AM
Thanx to all,
I am living in south india. I started playing chess when i was 14 and played it till 22. I was a local chess champ and have gone through a few competitions with success. I stopped playing at 22 coz my studies and career had lost its track. Now at 25 i find myself left with some time to get back to my old track of chess. I was brushing up with the opening combinations when i saw this good forum :). Its nice to know that we have a chess community of our own .
Take care all :)
Darklord
p.s - i have two friends living in sydney ;) So i a bit about Australia

Kaitlin
20-09-2004, 03:56 PM
undefinedundefinedHi ya all yous chess peoples. I am new. I am still learning but I have been playing people on the computer everyday nearly for lots of weeks now and I get lots well a bit better. Mostly i dont get killed but lots I run out of minutes even if I might win. That suxs when that happens.

skip to my lou
20-09-2004, 04:14 PM
Welcome Kaitlin,

For some good chess tips, see http://www.chesskit.com/training/

eclectic
20-09-2004, 05:56 PM
Mostly i dont get killed but lots I run out of minutes even if I might win. That suxs when that happens.

Hi Kaitlin,

Welcome

Use increments until you get used to managing your time.

eclectic

arosar
20-09-2004, 06:03 PM
Don't worry about the time. Just play chess, get better at it and enjoy it. Time management can come later.

AR

antichrist
20-09-2004, 06:48 PM
Don't worry about the time. Just play chess, get better at it and enjoy it. Time management can come later.

AR

Learn from me, I am only a weakish player due to many reasons, but have managed to win about a thousand dollars in gambling in the past twelve months. And I don't do it all the time.

JGB
20-09-2004, 08:46 PM
Learn from me, I am only a weakish player due to many reasons, but have managed to win about a thousand dollars in gambling in the past twelve months. And I don't do it all the time.

Why not??? You should do it all the time and you would be rich! :doh:

Nice statement, getting the young kids into gambling through chess, just what we need. :hmm:

Kaitlin
23-09-2004, 01:12 PM
:confused: Can I tell my friends to join here, not all of them are from Australia though :uhoh:. I would only tell the chess freak peeps to join, dats if yous say it is ok to.

skip to my lou
23-09-2004, 01:21 PM
Sure, No Problem :)

Garvinator
23-09-2004, 01:29 PM
:confused: Can I tell my friends to join here, not all of them are from Australia though :uhoh:. I would only tell the chess freak peeps to join, dats if yous say it is ok to.[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=DarkSlateBlue]
more the merrier, most of the time ;)

antichrist
29-09-2004, 06:10 PM
My questions to Darklord re losing Indian players being quitters got deleted?? That was a serious question.

skip to my lou
29-09-2004, 06:56 PM
Here is the message:


I have coached a few Indians in chess and every one, when beaten, would quit the game for good.

Kevin Bonham deleted it for reason: racist

I'll tell you why some people quit and some people don't. It is up to the coach to build that sort of "never give up" character in their student, and Brian did that very well when he was coaching me, this shows when I win after losing my Queen. My opponent was rated 1700, and I blundered my queen for a pawn. That sort of "never give up" character is built by a coach, not gender, not race, not anything else.


Do they only like winning?

I hope you don't like losing. I hate losing, and that's my reason not to give up.

JGB
29-09-2004, 07:00 PM
Originally Posted by antichrist :::
I have coached a few Indians in chess and every one, when beaten, would quit the game for good.

Thats the problem then, you have to teach them to always win. ;)

eclectic
22-11-2004, 04:01 AM
Hello,

My name is Mark.

I am posting to introduce myself.

Please refer to my user profile.

Whereas briefly I was on this bulletin board's predecessor in an official capacity my involvement this time is strictly one of a personal nature.

I thought of being anonymous here but on reflection I've decided to save myself the stress of having to cover my tracks or wonder if I've inadvertently left clues as to my identity for those who have nothing better to do than to make a sport of it.

As for my previous life it would be sufficient to say that I felt I never fitted in with the result being 3 months of unbelievable stress compounded no doubt by personal problems at the time.

I don't think I was ever replaced in the said position.

It would be tempting to say more on the matter but it's now a year on.

If I feel inclined and have the time I might turn up to a weekender in Melbourne occasionally.

The possibility of going to Mt. Buller is presently too up in the air for me (please forgive the pun).

I may comment on games and the like however I intend to do my very best this time to leave matters of chess politics and administration well alone.

These days I simply want to turn up to an event or venue, play a game of chess, and be left alone.

It's not like I was ever being groomed for greater things in the chess establishment.

Oh! I did say I wouldn't say any more.

On a lighter, or slower, note:
I have already submitted to Barry Cox's snail trail problem.

Finally: a hello to those here who may know me.

Regards,

Mark McKenzie

Skaro*

(*from Doctor Who i.e. the planet on which Davros created the Daleks)

skip to my lou
23-11-2004, 07:57 PM
Welcome to Chess Chat Mark. Nice signature.

THUa
06-12-2004, 12:06 PM
thE ownEr of thE bullEtin board has offErEd mE thE facility to changE my namE oncE again.

i had chosEn startEr#2 with thE hopE that by somE accidEnt of ElEctronics a portion of his <thE #1 startEr> post-counts may accidEntally transfEr to mE.
as this has bEEn rulEd unsatisfactory i havE bEEn forcEd to turn to thE puntErs club for suggEstions. aftEr dElibEration in thE traditional way wE havE comE up with thE following candidatE movEs

…. p-c g , which stands for <thE prE-cookEd goosE>

…. startEr#3

…. K’s mod

Each rEcEivEd 1 votE and this suggEsts i should choosE my own.

thE choicE is to rEvEal all.

i am tuong hua.
handlE sElEctEd is THUa.

and i confirm i am a body-buildEr.

however, i will not be revealing whether i was the banned THUNK or commentator.

Trent Parker
06-12-2004, 12:18 PM
thE ownEr of thE bullEtin board has offErEd mE thE facility to changE my namE oncE again.

i had chosEn startEr#2 with thE hopE that by somE accidEnt of ElEctronics a portion of his <thE #1 startEr> post-counts may accidEntally transfEr to mE.
as this has bEEn rulEd unsatisfactory i havE bEEn forcEd to turn to thE puntErs club for suggEstions. aftEr dElibEration in thE traditional way wE havE comE up with thE following candidatE movEs

…. p-c g , which stands for <thE prE-cookEd goosE>

…. startEr#3

…. K’s mod

Each rEcEivEd 1 votE and this suggEsts i should choosE my own.

thE choicE is to rEvEal all.

i am tuong hua.
handlE sElEctEd is THUa.

and i confirm i am a body-buildEr.

however, i will not be revealing whether i was the banned THUNK or commentator.

One could guess who you are......

i) thunk had a caps complex......
ii) thunk called himself "the hunk"

Hmmm truth? :D

Welcome to the chess chat BB anyhow!! :D

Garvinator
07-12-2004, 12:09 AM
One could guess who you are......

i) thunk had a caps complex......
ii) thunk called himself "the hunk"

Hmmm truth? :D

Welcome to the chess chat BB anyhow!! :D
maybe some action from a moderator is required mr chess nut :whistle:

ursogr8
07-12-2004, 06:47 AM
maybe some action from a moderator is required mr chess nut :whistle:

Well gg''; a little bit ambiguous of you.
Why don't you help out the new moderator; impart some of your wisdom and experience and give him a suggestion with a little less ambiguity?

starter

ps K. must have been happy with the new member btw.

WhiteElephant
08-01-2005, 12:25 PM
Hello new members tzaja, tritty and thhhza - are you guys related? :)

antichrist
18-02-2005, 09:54 PM
joeybloggopolos

Do you think that is his real name - don't I have sufficient enemies already?

Come on joey, introduce yourself.

antichrist
19-02-2005, 10:21 AM
zix5s5syg6

Here is another new member who is a mystery. Do you care to intro yourself and what that double-Dutch-Chinese means.

antichrist
19-02-2005, 10:23 AM
I think you are a Sydney player, do I know you?

Alan Shore
19-02-2005, 10:25 AM
Edit: Above post has now been edited.

antichrist
19-02-2005, 10:35 AM
AT least I am trying to lure them out to have a go -- leading with my chin.

I don't notice Bill posting so regularly now, have those messages sunk in? I don't mind leaving as well but I think the BB will be too boring without me and no Matt.

JGB
19-02-2005, 10:50 AM
antichrist:

Why? Your second last quote just shows the your utter insolence sometimes. What better way to you expect to drive young chess players away from this place? Dont try and be so smart all the time, its not very becomming.

antichrist
19-02-2005, 11:39 AM
antichrist:

Why? Your second last quote just shows the your utter insolence sometimes. What better way to you expect to drive young chess players away from this place? Dont try and be so smart all the time, its not very becomming.

That one was meant in innocence, only later did I realise the other..., then I also noticed that she has posted numerous times. I will try to edit.

antichrist
20-02-2005, 03:30 PM
Now we have a new member with the name stakes is high, doesn't he/she know it should be "stakes are high"?

I imagine all the strange names are teenagers.

Alan Shore
20-02-2005, 03:32 PM
Now we have a new member with the name stakes is high, doesn't he/she know it should be "stakes are high"?

I imagine all the strange names are teenagers.

Also, 'Welcome to our newest member, 6nn8q5a937'.

Either somehow spambots are doing something, or it's perhaps really K registering junk names, to get that Members List number higher to add prestige.

Kiser Soza
22-02-2005, 01:34 PM
hi
so many threads 2 read
i got to use search to see if what i want is posted
C ya

Dailja
26-02-2005, 04:55 AM
What up guys hows it going :evil:

antichrist
26-02-2005, 07:06 AM
What up guys hows it going :evil:

Hello Dailja
Welcome, but that does not necessary mean that we are going to be friends. We are a strange mob around here let me warn you.

We are from around Australia with a heavy Sydney flavouring.
Best of luck anyway. How is your chess playing?

antichrist
28-02-2005, 09:41 PM
Hello Tan Tan

Welcome, would you like to intro yourself, hope you have a merry time on the BB.

Sir Ralph Titiu
03-03-2005, 12:01 PM
i cant add an s 2 my user name. but i am sir ralph titius. until my nick is corrected, i cannot post here.

antichrist
03-03-2005, 12:06 PM
i cant add an s 2 my user name. but i am sir ralph titius. until my nick is corrected, i cannot post here.

Are you sure you are not Matt?

Bill Gletsos
03-03-2005, 12:25 PM
Are you sure you are not Matt?If he is I'm sure STML or a Mod will ban him quick smart. ;)

davevanderkist
03-03-2005, 11:54 PM
Hello members of chesschat.org

I'm a new member of this site. I'm Dave and I come from Holland. I'm 20 years old now and I play chess since I was 5. Since 2 years I'm member of a club.
It is difficult to find a good forum about chess on the net but I think this is the place to be! I don't know yet how it will raise my chess, because the most things you can only learn from experience. But discussing opening knowledge can help. And with this great forum where you can see the lines in a pgn-viewer, is this the place to be! Webmasters, good work :clap: !
For all the members here: You can ask me anything you want to know about chess and I will do my best to help.
Dave van der Kist

ursogr8
04-03-2005, 07:22 AM
If he is I'm sure STML or a Mod will ban him quick smart. ;)

Well he is not banned so either
> he is not,
or
>> He is not, not.

;)


starter

antichrist
05-03-2005, 03:29 PM
Hello members of chesschat.org

I'm a new member of this site. I'm Dave and I come from Holland. I'm 20 years old now and I play chess since I was 5. Since 2 years I'm member of a club.
It is difficult to find a good forum about chess on the net but I think this is the place to be! I don't know yet how it will raise my chess, because the most things you can only learn from experience. But discussing opening knowledge can help. And with this great forum where you can see the lines in a pgn-viewer, is this the place to be! Webmasters, good work :clap: !
For all the members here: You can ask me anything you want to know about chess and I will do my best to help.
Dave van der Kist

Dave
Welcome
Where are you living now? What is your rating? How come your English is so good? If you want a real serious game challenge Kegless

davevanderkist
06-03-2005, 10:23 PM
Hello Antichrist,

I live in Almere, the Netherlands. Its 15 miles from Amsterdam. Thanks for the compliments about my English, we learn it at school and I'm almost everyday at the internet. But speaking English is bad.
About my rating:
Rating is saying nothing, in the US, the ratings are 200 points higher then in Europe. I play now for 1,5 year on a club and my rating raised from 1400 to 1600, and it is still raising.
Sure I want a serious game, but today I made the decision to play only live games and no more cc-games. So I have more time to train openings and middlegames.

ElevatorEscapee
28-03-2005, 03:45 PM
Well, after posting a few times, I guess it is time to introduce myself.

I originally chose the name ElevatorEscapee after an incident during the first round in a chess tournmanet in Ballarat where I found myself stuck in an elevator with Kevin Perrin and two tables.

My first round game had finished early, and Kevin seemed to be in need of some help in bringing down tables from the upstairs area, so I happily volunteered.

Loading them into the elevator and riding it down proved to be far easier than trying to carry them down the stairs, so we loaded a couple of tables into the elevator and rode it down to the ground floor.

Upon arriving there, the inner doors of the elevator opened up, then the outer doors started to open, then jammed shut again, causing the inner doors to open and shut repeatedly, causing much distraction to the players still playing their games.

Kevin and I tried prying open the outer doors, and managed to get the bottom part open about an inch, which was enough for us to call out "Help! We're stuck!"

"Someone's stuck", cried out someone who happened to wander past the elevator. "Hey! Someone's stuck!"

"Shhhhh!!!", was the response cried out by many chessplayers intent on their games.

"Someone's stuck", whispers our would be rescuer in a stage whisper.

Soon enough more people drop by, and alert us to their presence by knocking on the doors (like we were going anywhere).

Someone from the Ballarat club (maybe Bas?) was summoned and tells that he was going to call "Good Ole Ron", who had originally agreed to the renting of the venue. "Good Ole Ron will know what to do!"

After about 15 minutes, the same person comes back to say that "Good Ole Ron" was on holiday, and couldn't be contacted. :wall:

Some minutes later came other voices: "Don't worry, we'll get you out!".

Cue theme from the A-Team:

Mechanical equipment sprouted from the bottom part of the outer doors (which we had managed to open one inch) and started stretching the opening further and furtrher apart!

Eventually the opening at the bottom of the outer doors had been increased to about two inches! Through the opening, beaming up at us, we could make out the smiling faces of Yitshak Sahar and Richard Voon.

Unfortunately, with a couple of metal bars and a car jack and they couldn't get the doors open any further than that.

A couple of minutes later, the moustachioed visage of Bas VanRiel peered through the opening, poked a newspaper through for us to read, and let us know that the SES had been called, then returned to his own game which was still in progress.

About fifteen minutes later, after intensely studying the door mechanism, I noticed a small metal loop at the top which was holding a piece of metal that dropped down from the ceiling. After jiggling this a bit, I managed to work out how to unhook it, which allowed us to finally pry the outer doors open, and escape. (Which earned a round of applause from the chess players standing around. :clap: )

About ten minutes later some bloke from the SES showed up, and he was relieved to find that the problem had been solved without the need for the jaws of life (I wonder what they would have done to the elevator doors!).

Anyway, that's why I chose my name... however I am increasingly of the opinion that it is a rather crappy name. :doh: I wonder if I will be granted the opportunity to change it. :hmm:

eclectic
28-03-2005, 04:28 PM
i think it's a great name!

it's got an "eclectic" ring to it!

;)

antichrist
28-03-2005, 04:40 PM
Warning: RWIPI 8.5

another elevator story.

Having just come down from the bush and did not know how elevators were programmed as had never been in one before. Anyway I got this job in the Commonwealth Centre in Sydney. I don't know how come but the first time I decided to use the lift was when doing overtime on a Saturday on the first week of work. I jumped in a lift that stopped from floors 10 -20 only whereas I wanted to go to floor 1.

So the lift whizzed up real fast not stopping at one or anywhere else along the way inspite of me pressing buttons.

So I thought it might crash through the roof and pushed emergency stop. Of course the stupid thing stopped, but it was about floor 18. Being a Sat and only about 6 people on floor 1 working and nowhere else there was not a security guy in sight. So it took about 6 hours for someone to discover that I was stuck in the lift. I can't remember if I made a mess of the lift or not. What I was happy about anyway was that I got still paid overtime!

arosar
28-03-2005, 08:56 PM
Is that IM Bob Smith of NZ?

AR

ElevatorEscapee
29-03-2005, 03:30 PM
i think it's a great name!

it's got an "eclectic" ring to it!

;)
Well actually, that's my problem with it... assinine aliterations aside, I just don't think it's eclectic enough! :lol:

Kaitlin
05-04-2005, 07:33 AM
Well, after posting a few times, I guess it is time to introduce myself...............................
.........Anyway, that's why I chose my name... however I am increasingly of the opinion that it is a rather crappy name. :doh: I wonder if I will be granted the opportunity to change it. :hmm:

Well I think its a good name now that I have read the story (but before I thought it was a bit weird and long to type). I like how peoples were whisper'n "Someone's stuck" thats funny :classic:

Aaron Bellette
09-06-2005, 10:34 AM
Hi everyone,

Just a quick hello for my first post here on this BB - hello again to all those who remember me from my YaBB posting days a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away (read Canberra, 2002) and greetings to all those I have yet to meet.

Also, congrats on putting together such a nice BB!

Cheers,

Aaron.

Bill Gletsos
09-06-2005, 04:20 PM
Hi everyone,

Just a quick hello for my first post here on this BB - hello again to all those who remember me from my YaBB posting days a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away (read Canberra, 2002) and greetings to all those I have yet to meet.

Also, congrats on putting together such a nice BB!

Cheers,

Aaron.Welcome back.

Aaron Bellette
09-06-2005, 04:43 PM
Thanks Bill! ;)

AB

Lemonv1
25-06-2005, 02:13 AM
Hi, I'm Tom, and I'm 16/M/England.
I just finished school, so I got nothing worth doing, except being online right now.
Anyway, yeah, hi.

Aaron Bellette
25-06-2005, 08:30 AM
Hi, I'm Tom, and I'm 16/M/England.
I just finished school, so I got nothing worth doing, except being online right now.
Anyway, yeah, hi.
Welcome Tom! :D

AB

arosar
15-07-2005, 05:32 PM
I think maybe we should IM West to the board, no?

AR

Alan Shore
16-07-2005, 12:32 AM
I think maybe we should IM West to the board, no?

AR

There's a thread for this already in non-chess called 'Welcome New Members'. Besides, no one deserves special treatment just cos they're some IM on a Bulletin Board, which you're confusing with Chess Board ;)

Bill Gletsos
16-07-2005, 12:37 AM
There's a thread for this already in non-chess called 'Welcome New Members'. Besides, no one deserves special treatment just cos their some IM on a Bulletin Board, which you're confusing with Chess Board ;)I just took it AR meant to say "I think maybe we should welcome IM West to the board, no?" but he left out the word welcome. :doh:

Carl Gorka
20-07-2005, 07:16 PM
Hi folks, just joined the site. I emigrated to Australia earlier this year from England, and am just beginning to find my feet here in Melbourne.

Carl :)

Spiny Norman
20-07-2005, 08:54 PM
Welcome to ChessChat Carl ... and if you're ever out in the eastern suburbs, come pay us a visit at Croydon Chess (www.croydonchess.com) ... visitors are always most welcome.

Carl Gorka
20-07-2005, 08:56 PM
Welcome to ChessChat Carl ... and if you're ever out in the eastern suburbs, come pay us a visit at Croydon Chess (www.croydonchess.com) ... visitors are always most welcome.

Thanks :) I'm over in the West, in Williamstown for now but would like to get around as much as possible. When are you open?

Spiny Norman
20-07-2005, 08:59 PM
Williamstown eh? Rats! L-o-n-g way from Croydon unfortunately. But there's some good clubs over your way, so you won't miss out chess-wise.

We're open on Thursday nights ... senior session starts at 7:45pm ... details at our website, including map reference and other contact details.

Carl Gorka
20-07-2005, 09:01 PM
Williamstown eh? Rats! L-o-n-g way from Croydon unfortunately. But there's some good clubs over your way, so you won't miss out chess-wise.

We're open on Thursday nights ... senior session starts at 7:45pm ... details at our website, including map reference and other contact details.

hehe, I'm joined up at Hobson's Bay already, but I'll come have a look at some time

Spiny Norman
20-07-2005, 09:09 PM
Our VP (Andrew LeRoy) used to play there a lot. I think Diana Beggs plays at Hobson's Bay too? She played @ Ringwood Chess Club years ago when I was but a junior ... doubt she'd remember me tho'.

Carl Gorka
20-07-2005, 09:15 PM
Our VP (Andrew LeRoy) used to play there a lot. I think Diana Beggs plays at Hobson's Bay too? She played @ Ringwood Chess Club years ago when I was but a junior ... doubt she'd remember me tho'.

Diana Beggs does play there, but I haven't been in recently as I've had some visa trouble. My life should be straight by the start of August, though :)

antichrist
21-07-2005, 12:25 AM
Well Fire-Eater what position are you going to play? NSW has Bill the Great who is unmatched, Victoria has FG7 the Revolutionery who puts up a great fight but lacks popular support. Up NSW!!

Carl Gorka
21-07-2005, 09:28 AM
Well Fire-Eater what position are you going to play? NSW has Bill the Great who is unmatched, Victoria has FG7 the Revolutionery who puts up a great fight but lacks popular support. Up NSW!!

I'm a fence-sitter ;)

Garvinator
21-07-2005, 11:48 AM
I'm a fence-sitter ;)
a fireeater who is a fence sitter :eek:

Carl Gorka
21-07-2005, 07:35 PM
a fireeater who is a fence sitter :eek:

:D I can burn both sides of the fence ;)

Garvinator
22-07-2005, 02:37 AM
:D I can burn both sides of the fence ;)
certainly not a case of the grass is greener on the other side :P

Carl Gorka
22-07-2005, 10:25 AM
certainly not a case of the grass is greener on the other side :P

although concerning my migration to Aus, I've definitely found the grass to be greener, metaphorically speaking. Australia has one more pom to bash for quite a while :D

antichrist
22-07-2005, 11:02 AM
although concerning my migration to Aus, I've definitely found the grass to be greener, metaphorically speaking. Australia has one more pom to bash for quite a while :D

I am just wondering whether you are going to copy those other poms and set up in competition to P Parr, B Jones & G Gardiner so you can all "love" each other in mutual admiration? Welcome to OZ by the way.

Carl Gorka
22-07-2005, 11:09 AM
I am just wondering whether you are going to copy those other poms and set up in competition to P Parr, B Jones & G Gardiner so you can all "love" each other in mutual admiration? Welcome to OZ by the way.

Don't know what you're on about, but I have nothing against mutual admiration :)

Thanks for the welcome. Aus already feels more comfy than England did for quite a while

Watto
12-09-2005, 11:54 AM
Hi everyone. I've just discovered that I can't send or receive PMs unless I make some posts... so here goes.

I've enjoyed chesschat but until now I've enjoyed loitering silently!

Spiny Norman
12-09-2005, 02:47 PM
Hi everyone. I've just discovered that I can't send or receive PMs unless I make some posts... so here goes. I've enjoyed chesschat but until now I've enjoyed loitering silently!
Welcome Watto ... keep up the good work!

Watto
12-09-2005, 02:58 PM
Thanks Frosty!

Cheers,
Watto

Frank Walker
20-09-2005, 08:54 PM
Starts of with people just saying hi and guests popping in and posting and comes all the way to where we are now.
Well, every thread leads to an argument, dont it? :hmm:

bergil
23-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Starts of with people just saying hi and guests popping in and posting and comes all the way to where we are now.
Well, every thread leads to an argument, dont it? :hmm:
How can you say that, that a bunch of...... :hmm: Let say discussion and name calling ;)

Foxy Lady
12-10-2005, 07:29 PM
Hi everyone. I've just discovered that I can't send or receive PMs unless I make some posts... so here goes.

Me too. How do I know when I can send and receive PMs?

Dozy
12-10-2005, 09:16 PM
Me too. How do I know when I can send and receive PMs?Hi Foxy, welcome aboard ... you need 10 posts for PMs.

Foxy Lady
13-10-2005, 05:16 PM
Hi Foxy, welcome aboard ... you need 10 posts for PMs.

Thx Dozy. Private Messages working fine now and I only have 5 posts. Go figure.

Alan Shore
13-10-2005, 05:40 PM
Thx Dozy. Private Messages working fine now and I only have 5 posts. Go figure.

I think they changed it back to something like 4 posts now.. there was an announcement somewhere about that.

Cas
02-11-2005, 08:53 PM
Hi, posting here as Fireeaters wife, as well as a person in my own right.

In other words - just checking up on him ;)

Cas

Rincewind
02-11-2005, 08:55 PM
Hi, posting here as Fireeaters wife, as well as a person in my own right.

In other words - just checking up on him ;)

Cas

Welcome aboard, Cas.

Mischa
02-11-2005, 08:56 PM
hey
Cas
luv ya

Alan Shore
02-11-2005, 09:06 PM
Hi, posting here as Fireeaters wife, as well as a person in my own right.

In other words - just checking up on him ;)

Cas

Oh, ok so we'd better stop talking about the lurid encounters of... er.. never mind.

Mischa
02-11-2005, 09:09 PM
shhhhhhhhhhh

Cas
02-11-2005, 09:10 PM
Thanks for the welcome :D

Balthasar - please tell me more.....

Mischa - luv ya too

Rincewind - I'll try to be good (but no promises)
ps - I cannot PM...why?

Cas

Mischa
02-11-2005, 09:12 PM
Give it a post or two

Rincewind
02-11-2005, 09:14 PM
Rincewind - I'll try to be good (but no promises)

Hey, we have very low standards here. ;)

After 3 posts you should be able to PM but it might take a few hours to come into effect.

Cas
02-11-2005, 09:15 PM
Give it a post or two
Ok, must find a sexy avatar which relects myself too ;) :D

Mischa
02-11-2005, 09:16 PM
you saying mine does???

Cas
02-11-2005, 09:16 PM
Hey, we have very low standards here. ;)

After 3 posts you should be able to PM but it might take a few hours to come into effect.
OK, thats good....won't bother trying then..

btw, do I have to talk about chess ? :eek:

Rincewind
02-11-2005, 09:18 PM
btw, do I have to talk about chess ? :eek:

No. As a rule most people here try to avoid it. Some long standard members have never talked about chess.

Cas
02-11-2005, 09:20 PM
No. As a rule most people here try to avoid it. Some long standard members have never talked about chess.


Good - wouldn't know where to start - I'm just a chess groupie :eek:

Alan Shore
02-11-2005, 09:22 PM
btw, do I have to talk about chess ? :eek:

I'd say 95% of my posts are non-chess. At least they are these days.

Mischa
02-11-2005, 09:23 PM
I try not to

Cas
02-11-2005, 09:26 PM
I try not to

sure we'll find something to talk about :)

Like my avatar?

Mischa
02-11-2005, 09:27 PM
looks just like you...............but smaller

Cas
02-11-2005, 09:28 PM
looks just like you...............but smaller
:D I do love you !

Mischa
02-11-2005, 09:39 PM
:)

Cas
02-11-2005, 09:45 PM
:)
Still cannot PM - will you try please?


Hasn't it been hot today?


Guess what fireeater is doing?

Mischa
02-11-2005, 09:47 PM
I don't want to know what you two are up to

Cas
02-11-2005, 09:49 PM
I don't want to know what you two are up to
Not that :rolleyes: - he's playing chess - there, I've said it - never to be mentioned again ! hehe

Mischa
02-11-2005, 09:51 PM
you reallyshould have access now to pm's I;m told

Cas
02-11-2005, 09:54 PM
you reallyshould have access now to pm's I;m told
Great - thanks to whoever told you...

Will we have no secrets?

Mischa
02-11-2005, 09:55 PM
I will know all that you do
just not what you say

Cas
02-11-2005, 09:58 PM
I will know all that you do
just not what you say
Er, is that good or bad?

four four two
02-11-2005, 10:08 PM
Well that depends.... ;)

There is a "girls only" thread in the non- chess section..which occasionly gets "invaded" by guys.
Quick question,are you english as well like Fireeater?,and do you have an interest in soccer? :hmm:

Cas
02-11-2005, 10:19 PM
Well that depends.... ;)

There is a "girls only" thread in the non- chess section..which occasionly gets "invaded" by guys.
Quick question,are you english as well like Fireeater?,and do you have an interest in soccer? :hmm:
yes, and no :D

Hi btw

four four two
02-11-2005, 11:24 PM
You mean he hasnt inoculated you in the ways of Westham?...mmm.
I guess your not much of sport fan then? :hmm:

jenni
03-11-2005, 09:37 AM
Hi, posting here as Fireeaters wife, as well as a person in my own right.

In other words - just checking up on him ;)

Cas

You are not supposed to do this - you are supposed to be totally mysterious while dropping clues (some of them deliberate lies), so that we can spend a few months guessing......

(Hi anyway - we loved his display at the Ergas camp. :) )

Watto
03-11-2005, 09:46 AM
Hi Cas

I’ve met you before- at a Chinese restaurant I think it was. Fireeater had had an excellent tournament…
Anyway, welcome to chesschat. About the girls only thread… without meaning to I think I’ve managed to kill if off ;) but it will probably revive itself again... :)

Cas
03-11-2005, 11:47 AM
You are not supposed to do this - you are supposed to be totally mysterious while dropping clues (some of them deliberate lies), so that we can spend a few months guessing......

(Hi anyway - we loved his display at the Ergas camp. :) )
Hi :)

His display?!! tell me more !

btw, I am mysterious - you won't know what is the truth and what isn't - I could be making it all up - so there. :D

(Mind you, to be making up that I'm the wife of chess player may be a bit eccentric)

Cas

Cas
03-11-2005, 11:48 AM
Hi Cas

I’ve met you before- at a Chinese restaurant I think it was. Fireeater had had an excellent tournament…
Anyway, welcome to chesschat. About the girls only thread… without meaning to I think I’ve managed to kill if off ;) but it will probably revive itself again... :)
I was there - who are you?

Thankyou :)

Cas
03-11-2005, 11:52 AM
You mean he hasnt inoculated you in the ways of Westham?...mmm.
I guess your not much of sport fan then? :hmm:
He has - but I take no notice - silly game.

Anyway, as we are in Aus now soccer is hardly relevant.....Oh, did I say that !!!! LOL

I like some sports, but they involve cars and horses (not together)