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Watto
28-09-2008, 09:20 AM
http://www.commonwealth-chess.com/index.html

The Commonwealth Chess Championship is taking place in Nagpur, India, from 27 September to 6 October 2008. The Opening Ceremony was last night and round one of 11 begins today. The official site (link above) doesn’t seem to have a results page but hopefully results will become available.

I don’t know who the official Australian representatives are this year (as Kevin hasn’t mentioned any, perhaps there aren’t any?), but I know of two Australians who are playing, IMs Alex Wohl and Guy West, who are also sharing a room. The only other player who I know is playing is Nigel Short because Guy had a celebratory drink with him after the Hawks won the Grand Final… (Guy is a longstanding Hawthorn fan and was a bit heartbroken to be missing it!)

The hosts have been lovely and welcoming, meeting players at the airport etc.

Kevin Bonham
28-09-2008, 10:59 AM
There weren't any applicants to represent Aus as adults. Chirag Saroha,
Ben Lazarus and Sarah Anton were all accepted for junior positions, don't know how many of those are actually playing.

MichaelBaron
28-09-2008, 12:56 PM
Good luck to Alex and Guy

Dougy
28-09-2008, 02:16 PM
Go Aussie!

Gattaca
28-09-2008, 05:24 PM
Thanks.

Looks like it's going to be a huge Swiss of about 300 players with various sub categories for women and juniors. Alex and I are playing 1900 type Indian players in round 1. It will be interesting to see if they are bony chickens. If the lower rated Indians are mostly bony chickens then it will be a long two weeks! Ideally we will get off to reasonable start and get above the bony chicken-line quickly... otherwise it could be easy to get bogged down.

eclectic
28-09-2008, 05:36 PM
congrats gattaca on the hawthorn premiership; a pity you could not be there but being away from the mcg and seeing hawthorn win it is much better than being at the mcg and seeing them lose it ;)

Watto
28-09-2008, 07:16 PM
I've just been advised that we'll be able to see the results on http://chess-results.com specifically http://chess-results.com/tnr16261.aspx?lan=1 or at www.indianchessfed.com

The organisers will be uploading the results as soon as they are declared.

Metro
28-09-2008, 10:00 PM
Thanks.

Looks like it's going to be a huge Swiss of about 300 players with various sub categories for women and juniors. Alex and I are playing 1900 type Indian players in round 1. It will be interesting to see if they are bony chickens. If the lower rated Indians are mostly bony chickens then it will be a long two weeks! Ideally we will get off to reasonable start and get above the bony chicken-line quickly... otherwise it could be easy to get bogged down.

I recall your expression "bony chicken" but can't recall the meaning .Is it under-rated?

Gattaca
29-09-2008, 01:42 AM
Yeah, underrated, tough to chew on. Not like the plump, juicy, overrated fare one is sometimes lucky enough to encounter.

By the way, only Chirag seems to have turned up out of those 3 juniors.

Alex had a forfeit in round 1.

I had a chicken, but not a very bony one. I'll try and upload the game as an example of how development, whilst not especially trendy these days, should still be a core stock in any well balanced portfolio. I'm Black.

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3.Bg5 Nbd7 4.f3 c5 5.e4 cxd4 6.Bxf6 gxf6 7.Qxd4 dxe4 8.Nxe4 Bg7 9.c3 O-O 10.Qd2 Ne5 11.Qc2 Qb6 12.O-O-O Be6 13.Qa4 Rfd8 14.Nd2 Rac8 15.Nh3 Bh6 16.f4 Bf5 17.g3 Nd3+ 18.Bxd3 Rxd3 19.Nc4 Rxc4

Brian_Jones
29-09-2008, 08:26 AM
Don't know anything about chickens but it seems to me that the event is very strong - almost all the Indian top players have entered except for Anand, Humpy, Harikrishna and Saskiran.

Alex and Guy are seeded 38 and 48 respectively. Could be a tough tournament!

My tips are Gupta and Negi.

Dougy
29-09-2008, 10:41 AM
According to http://chess-results.com:

Guy West had black against Manush Shah (1863 FIDE) in round 1 and will have white against Pendalwar Pankaj (2115 FIDE) in round 2.

Alek Wohl had white Chandana Priya Reddy (1914 FIDE) in round 1 (who forfeited) and will have white against Pon N Krithika (WFM 2156 FIDE) in round 2.

Watto
29-09-2008, 11:46 AM
Don't know anything about chickens but it seems to me that the event is very strong - almost all the Indian top players have entered except for Anand, Humpy, Harikrishna and Saskiran.

Alex and Guy are seeded 38 and 48 respectively. Could be a tough tournament!

My tips are Gupta and Negi.
Yes, it’s going to be tough alright but I think Guy was quite pleased about that idea, at least in theory. The chess is being played in two very large rooms. Boards 1 to 45 are in a much nicer, carpeted room. He started off on board 48 and, so, apart from naturally wanting to be a not-too-juicy chicken, he says he has a strong incentive to try and get into the good room and stay there! ;)

Aussie junior Chirag Saroha (ACF 1165 from WA) lost to a 2113 FIDE rated player in round 1 and has white against an 1812 FIDE rated player in the second round. Best of luck to Chirag too! :)

Gattaca
29-09-2008, 10:41 PM
Alex and I both won our round 2 games, Alex quite easily after his opponent fell into an opening trap and lost a rook, me with a lot more difficulty.

We each received 4,000 rupees (a bit over $100) today as our 'allowance', which was something I hadn't known about. I also didn't know before arriving that breakfast at the hotel was free. This was a nice discovery as you can have a huge breakfast of curries, etc and just eat twice a day. $100 goes quite a long way in India, too.

Watto
30-09-2008, 09:13 AM
Aussie junior Chirag Saroha (ACF 1165 from WA) lost to a 2113 FIDE rated player in round 1 and has white against an 1812 FIDE rated player in the second round. Best of luck to Chirag too! :)
I see that Chirag drew that second round game. :clap: He's up against another 1800er in the 3rd round.

In round 3, Guy is playing a 16 year old from India, who beat his 2350 rated countryman in round 2

Round 3 pairings
Bo. No. Name
19 102 Venkata Ramana (2205) J 2 2 IM Wohl Aleksandar H 39
24 121 Abhishek Kelkar (2120) 2 2 IM West Guy 48
102 187 Nisha N Patkar (1846) Saroha Chirag (unrated) 260

Gattaca
30-09-2008, 06:15 PM
Well... I failed to grind out the 16 year old in a (moderately ) good knight vs (moderately) bad bishop ending. I have a distinct feeling I've just chewed on something small and bony. This could be the beginning of the feared bony chicken bog-down. Nigel Short hit an even bonier chicken and got smacked. Alex's opponont came 20 minutes late and then used most of his remaining time on the first 5 moves. Marcel Santo Roman lives again!

Ivanchuk_Fan
30-09-2008, 07:45 PM
Round 4 Pairings:

Wohl (2384), who is currently on a perfect 3/3, faces IM Deshmukh, rated 2284.

West (2342), who has conceded only a half-point so far, is playing IM R R Laxman, rated 2498.

Saroha, who has achieved a performance rating of 1924 with his score of 1.5/3, plays Preethi (2183) next round.

And all the three Australian players are White in their games.

Curiously, only six of the 17 players on 3/3 are rated over 2400.

Gattaca
01-10-2008, 03:54 AM
Round 4 Pairings:

Curiously, only six of the 17 players on 3/3 are rated over 2400.

That's because there are bony chickens everywhere!

A very annoying thing happened to me today that rather took the gloss off my tournament. The official transport was late arriving at the hotel to take us to the 4pm round. Finally a car arrived at 3.45, but there were too many players waiting to all fit.

Four players were gentlemen enough to wait until the next car, Alex Wohl, myself, Mas Haziful from Malaysia and some Indian player.

The next car didn't arrive until 3.55, so it was clear we were going to be late, as the trip takes 15 minutes. Unfortunately on the way the car ran out of petrol, our third breakdown of 'official transport' in three days. I asked the Indian player to phone the organisers on his mobile and ask for our games to be delayed until we got there. The organisers agreed, so I relaxed.

When we finally arrived 25 minutes late my clock had been started at the normal time. I asked the arbiter what was going on and he said my opponent hadn't agreed to delay the start. I pointed out we had phoned ahead and that we were at the mercy of the transport organised for us and that it should be the arbiter's decision, not the player. There was some conferring between the arbiter and my opponent and suddenly I was offered a deal, my opponent would 'give me' 10 minutes back and I would start play with 1.15, giving my 2498 rated opponent odds of 15 minutes! With my clock still running and fearing that if I refused I would just be forfeited, I agreed to play. I checked the other games of people who had been delayed and they had all been given their full allocation of time.

15 minutes isn't much, but I played the entire game feeling irked by what had happened and not really enjoying it. At the end I started to get a bit low on time, which didn't improve my mood, and missed 41 Rc6+ Rc7 42 Re6 Bf6 43 Bg5! with very good winning chances, an easy enough line to find if you have time to look for such things.

To add insult to injury we've just been told that there is a 100 Euro 'registration fee' for foreign players which we weren't told about when invited to play. It's only $170 or thereabouts, but it would have been nice to be told about this in advance when deciding whether to play.

Alex is not in the best of moods either, as he lost a very dominant position this afternoon. All in all, a day to be forgotten!

Watto
01-10-2008, 09:08 AM
Round 4 Pairings:

Wohl (2384), who is currently on a perfect 3/3, faces IM Deshmukh, rated 2284.

West (2342), who has conceded only a half-point so far, is playing IM R R Laxman, rated 2498.

Saroha, who has achieved a performance rating of 1924 with his score of 1.5/3, plays Preethi (2183) next round.

And all the three Australian players are White in their games.

Curiously, only six of the 17 players on 3/3 are rated over 2400.
Going into round 5, only 6 players now are on a perfect 4/4 points: http://chess-results.com/tnr16261.aspx?tnr=16261&art=2&rd=5&lan=1&fed=IND&m=-1

With their loss and draw from round 4, Wohl and West are on 3 points each now. Wohl is playing Matta Vinay Kumar 2265 and West plays Anurag Mhamal 2113.
Whilst they had a frustrating day yesterday, Saroha won his 4th round game and is on 2.5 points, so his performance rating has risen to 2084. I knew that ACF 1100ers, especially juniors, were good :) and that some FIDE ratings at the lower end are a bit unreliable but does anyone here know much about him. Is his ACF rating just a very new rating or something? His 5th round opponent is WIM Kiran Manisha Mohanty 2246.

Watto
01-10-2008, 11:54 AM
I’ve just realised that there are live games and more importantly a whole ton of games are available to play through from rounds 1 to 4.

For anyone who’s interested and didn't know this either:
Here’s the URL for the home page of the official website: http://www.commonwealth-chess.com/index.html

Just scroll down and click on the links.

Gattaca
02-10-2008, 01:17 AM
Alex lost again today. I'm not sure how Shirag went. Short only drew, (luckily after blundering the exchange.)

I had a very frustrating game against one of their much heralded little monsters. Completely winning for ages but blundered several times in the endgame until I was lucky to save a draw. Had about 40 spectators watching at the end. Remember the name Anurag!

Basil
02-10-2008, 07:18 AM
Thanks for the reports, Guy and Jean. We are reading. Carry on - especially Guy.

Garrett
02-10-2008, 07:43 AM
Thanks for the reports, Guy and Jean. We are reading. Carry on - especially Guy.

Yes - I am enjoying the reports too. Keep them up !!

Good luck for the rest of the tourney.

cheers
Garrett.

Watto
02-10-2008, 09:10 AM
Thanks for the reports, Guy and Jean. We are reading. Carry on - especially Guy.
Thanks, no problem. :) Anurag is 13 and very talented, a bit like Moulthun Ly from a couple of years back Guy says. Guy was a pawn up and made a couple of bad blunders in the endgame trying to win … so the game swung around to him being two pawns down and having to find all sorts of resources to draw so he was at least pleased about that part of it. He said despite the annoyance of throwing away a possible win, it was an exciting game. He’s playing a WIM next who seems to be in reasonable form.

Only two players left on a perfect score:
IM Sengupta Deep 2454 IND 5 - 5 IM Deshmukh Anup 2284 IND

Round 6 pairings for the Aussies
28 IM West Guy 2342 AUS 3 - 3 WIM Priya P 2190 IND
40 IM Wohl Aleksandar H 2384 AUS 3 - 3 FM Sai Krishna G V 2139 IND
73 Prince Bajaj 2111 IND 2 - 2 Saroha Chirag 0 AUS

Brian’s picks are on 3.5 each I think. Top seeds seem to be struggling a bit.

p.s. round 6 games start 1 pm Nagpur time today; 5:30 pm Melbourne time. Live games and games from previous rounds can be found at http://www.monroi.com/watch/?tnm_id=1120

More detailed pairings and results can be found at http://chess-results.com/tnr16261.aspx?tnr=16261&art=2&rd=6&lan=1&fed=IND&m=-1

Gattaca
02-10-2008, 10:20 PM
Alex and I both managed to win today, but I didn't see what happened with Chirag.

Alex had a really tough game against a kid who looked about 10... I kid you not! Alex had got the stage of calculating ways to draw at one point, but fortunately for him the kid blundered a piece.

My opponent played a rather eccentric (but reasonable according to Fritz and Alex) opening, but then played very weakly. After a bad recapture with her pawn on e5 and the simple Rfd1 by me doubling on the d file, amazingly it is just completely winning for White. Not one of her better games.

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.e3 d6 5.Nc3 g6 6.Be2 Bg7 7.O-O O-O 8.b3 Re8 9.Bb2 Nd7 10.d5 Ncb8 11.dxe6 Rxe6 12.Qc2 Ne5 13.Rad1 Nbd7 14.Rd2 Re8 15.Nxe5 dxe5 16.Rfd1 f5 17.e4 c6 18.exf5 gxf5 19.Qxf5 Qf6 20.Qh5 Rf8 21.Ne4 Qf4 22.Bd3 Rf5 23.Qe8+ Rf8 24.Qe6+ Kh8 25.g3 Qf3 26.Ng5 Qh5 27.Qe7 h6 28.Ne6 Rg8 29.Be2 Qg6 30.Rxd7 Bxd7 31.Qxd7 Qc2 32.Rd2 Qb1+ 33.Kg2 Qe4+ 34.Bf3 Qg6 35.Nxg7 Qxg7 36.Qxg7+ Kxg7 37.Bxe5+ Kg6 38.Rd6+ Kf5 39.Bd4

Ivanchuk_Fan
02-10-2008, 10:30 PM
Board 9: West-Negi!

Good luck Guy!

Curiously, IM Sengupta (2454) is in the clear lead on 6/6, without playing any of the 35 players rated over 2400! In round 7, he plays his first 2400+ player in the tournament, Murali (2412, on 5.5/6 with GM Ganguly).

BennyG
03-10-2008, 09:37 AM
Board 9 IM Guy West 2342 - 4 vs GM Negi Parimarjan 2529 - 4
Board 28 Annurudha G C 2218 - 4 vs IM Wohl Aleksandar H 2384 - 4
Board 91 Saroha Chirag - 2 vs Dave Shiv Shankar 1959 - 2

MichaelBaron
03-10-2008, 11:53 AM
Good luck, Guy

Negi is not very consistent but on his day - he can play extremely strongly. His real strenth is more like 2600 rather than 2520.

Watto
03-10-2008, 01:39 PM
Round 7 has just started. Lots of live games can be found at http://www.monroi.com/watch/?tnm_id=1120

Watto
04-10-2008, 07:39 PM
Guy asked me to post this as he tried earlier this afternoon and couldn't:

"Well, I had my chances against Negi, but didn't take them. I should have played Ra6 with a clear advantage at one point early on, and later when I blundered tactically with Bd2?, simply Qd2 is fine.

My round 8 game was horrible. I played a bony chicken who had beaten Mas from Malaysia, so I knew he was underrated. I reached an equal ending as Black but then played so badly he ended up with three extra passed pawns on the queenside. It was so bad (-5.50 according to Fritz) that I actually felt elated to draw. It was the worst swindle since Bunny Elliot lost to Grant Crocker 'from 9 pawns up' (as legend would have it.)

In round 8 Alex made a temporary piece sac, but it accidentally became permanent. Luckily his opponent got a bit short of time and offered a draw, despite Alex only having one prawn for the piece.

We both have bony chickens again this round. Has Alex played a single player rated above him? He's having a horrible series of pairings despite being on a decent score the whole way. At least I have had two chances to play high rated Indians."

[Guy, in case you're wondering why I've put 'from 9 points up' in inverted commas, the forum software wouldn't accept the word 'from' in front of 9 pawns up, but did once I put it in inverted commas... :confused:.]

Gattaca
04-10-2008, 10:45 PM
Alex and I both managed to win our round 9 games, so we are still reasonably well placed. Alex revealed that he has not in fact played anyone even as high rated as himself... talk about a rotten string of bony chicken pairings.

paulb
04-10-2008, 10:56 PM
Bony chickens = underrated players? I don't understand the metaphor

Garvinator
04-10-2008, 11:53 PM
Bony chickens = underrated players? I don't understand the metaphor
I think it means that they are not an easy meal.

Watto
05-10-2008, 07:46 PM
Live games are being played at the moment, both Alex and Guy's games are up. Alex has white against GM Deepan Chakkravarthy J (2464) on board 8 and on board 27 Guy has black against Tejas Ravichandran (rated 2123, he has beaten four 2300ers so far this tournament so he's in good form)

http://www.monroi.com/watch/?tnm_id=1120

TIMMIK
05-10-2008, 09:23 PM
Bony chickens = underrated players? I don't understand the metaphor It means there is not much fat on them ie. not many over-rated points .

Gattaca
05-10-2008, 09:57 PM
Alex was a bit better for most of his game and drew comfortably.

My bony chicken was a 13 year old boy, so I saw warning signs flashing. Sure enough, I got a terrible position in the early middlegame and only just survived. He declined a draw offer when I was much worse, then offered me a draw after I had clawed back to equality. I was behind on the clock in a complex position so I took it.

When I left it looked like Ganguly was only going to draw, so that would give Nigel Short a half point lead going into the last round.

Watto
06-10-2008, 09:33 AM
The final round starts today, 9 am in Nagpur. Melbourne time 1:30 pm. Again, both Alex and Guy’s games should be live along with all the boards down to about 30: http://www.monroi.com/watch/?tnm_id=1120

EDIT: I don’t know when the round started. Guy said 9am, the official site said 10am … then there was the daylight savings change… Anyway, the important thing is that the round has already started.

Aussie junior, Chirag Saroha, is now on 4 points and has white against a 1700er from Sri Lanka.

Nigel Short is half a point ahead of the rest of the field with 8.5/10. Full details: http://chess-results.com/tnr16261.aspx?tnr=16261&art=2&rd=11&lan=1&fed=IND&m=-1

Brian_Jones
09-10-2008, 01:14 PM
Nice last round swindle by Guy!