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Adamski
09-09-2008, 10:25 PM
Tonight, I partly made up for being the subject of an upset by a junior (and a girl too) by defeating (more easily than I expected) an up and coming "very junior" in young Anton Smirnov in the Ford Memorial at Norths. So I thought it was time there was a thread for victories by seniors (over 50) against juniors. Here is tonight's game. (I hope I have done this correctly!)
Adamski - Anton Smirnov.

1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bc4 Nc6 4.d3 Bc5 5.f4 d6 6.Nf3 a6 7.h3 Nd4 8.fxe5 Nxf3+ 9.Qxf3 dxe5 10.Bg5 h6 11.Bxf6 Qxf6 12.Qxf6 gxf6 13.Nd5 Bd6 14.Nxf6+ Ke7 15.Nd5+ Kf8 16.0-0 Kg7 17.Nxc7 Bxc7 18.Rxf7+ Kg6 19.Rxc7 Rf8 20.Rf1 Rxf1+ 21.Kxf1 Kg5 22.Kf2 h5 23.Kg3 Rb8 24.c3 Ra8 25.d4 exd4 26.cxd4 Rb8 27.e5 Bf5 28.e6 b5 29.Bb3 Kf6 30.Rf7+ Kg6 31.e7 Re8 32.Kf4 Bd7 33.Ke5 a5 34.Be6 Bc6 35.Kd6+- 1-0

&..Nd4 is bad as it either loses time, positionally (if 1..gxf6) or a pawn for nothing as per the game. And 16..Kg7 loses 2 more pawns so effectively it is game over. Later, I unnecessarliy let his Bishop back out but it did not matter, strong central passed pawns decided the game.

Aaron Guthrie
10-09-2008, 11:55 AM
h3 is very ugly, the dark squares are weak enough around your kingside as it is! As for Nd4, probably not best (0-0!), but it didn't have to lead to a bad position for black. After 8.fxe5 dxe5 gives black a good position, if 9.Nxe5 0-0! and I think black has more than enough for the pawn.

Capablanca-Fan
10-09-2008, 01:15 PM
One of Ortvin Sarapu's last games, aged 74, a miniature against Igor Bjelobrk, then a top Kiwi junior and now a strong player in Oz, Auckland Chess Centre Championship 1998:

1.e4 g6 2.d4 Bg7 3.Nc3 c6 4.Bc4 b5 5.Bb3 a5 6.a3 Ba6 7.Nf3 b4
8.axb4 axb4 9.Na2 d6 10.Nxb4! Be2 11.Rxa8 Bxd1 12.Nxc6 Qc7
13.Nxb8! 1-0

Adamski
10-09-2008, 08:57 PM
h3 is very ugly, the dark squares are weak enough around your kingside as it is! As for Nd4, probably not best (0-0!), but it didn't have to lead to a bad position for black. After 8.fxe5 dxe5 gives black a good position, if 9.Nxe5 0-0! and I think black has more than enough for the pawn.Good comments, Manga. I (not for the first time) forgot my book and did not play 7 Rf1. And yes, ...Nxf3 was most unnecessary. Without that Black is indeed fine.

Adamski
10-09-2008, 09:04 PM
One of Ortvin Sarapu's last games, aged 74, a miniature against Igor Bjelobrk, then a top Kiwi junior and now a strong player in Oz, Auckland Chess Centre Championship 1998:

1.e4 g6 2.d4 Bg7 3.Nc3 c6 4.Bc4 b5 5.Bb3 a5 6.a3 Ba6 7.Nf3 b4
8.axb4 axb4 9.Na2 d6 10.Nxb4! Be2 11.Rxa8 Bxd1 12.Nxc6 Qc7
13.Nxb8! 1-0That game is more weird than most of mine!:P

ER
12-09-2008, 05:17 PM
RENZIES, ELLIOTT - CHAN, RAYMOND [C46]
2008 BHCC TUESDAY GRADES 26.08.2008

As a long suffering oldie against the talented and formidable BHCC juniors I think it is only fair if I published a recent game versus my friend Raymond Chan who plays Black in this game...

1. Nc3 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3. e4 Bc5 4. Nxe5 Bxf2+ 5. Kxf2 Nxe5 6. d4 Ng6 7. Bc4 Nf6 8. e5 d5 9. Be2 Ne4 10. Nxe4 dxe4 11. Rf1 0–0 12. Kg1 b6 13. b3 Bb7 14. Rf5 Qd5 15. Bc4 Qd7 16. Rxf7 Rxf7 17. e6 Qe7 18. exf7+ Kh8 19. Be3 Rf8 20. Qh5 c5 21. c3 Qd6 22. Rf1 Ne7 23. dxc5 bxc5 24. Qxc5 Qxc5 25. Bxc5

Black resigns

Basil
12-09-2008, 07:00 PM
Holy multiple pawn forkings, BatKnight.

ER
13-09-2008, 10:52 PM
That's what hey call open, enjoyable, enterprising chess, mate! Not the boring, sleepy, hopelss style you play! :P
By the way have you heard the latest bat joke?

There are bats hanging of a branch upside down, all except one.
Two bats comment:
What happened to this one?
I donít know, two minutes ago he seemed normal and then he fainted.

cagles

Vlad
26-09-2008, 01:09 PM
I do not want to make a separate thread. This one is meant to be for brave adults who manage to fight little kiddies.:)

Unfortunately not everybody is as brave as people in this thread. In the last 4 month, Anton had to play 4 adults who did not show up for their games. In the current week both his opponents in the North Sydney Club and Manly chess club did not come for their games. Obviously, they claim they have their reasons. Yes, they do..:)

Should we put up a list of not so brave chess players who are afraid to fight little kiddies?:)

ER
26-09-2008, 02:28 PM
I would put my first as No 1 in the new list, but despite my chickenish attitude towards our juniors, I always show up, albeit late due to work pressure most of the time. Ask Gerry and Trevor, they can tell you lots of stories of that kind! :) I actually enjoy it equally when i obliterate a junior or when I see their little faces beaming of pride when they crush me!
Cheers and good luck!

Basil
26-09-2008, 05:45 PM
I played and fought and lost to 11 yr old Robbie Peck last night. I took it like a man and we enjoyed our post-mortem (lucky bast%^$d :lol:)

Ivanchuk_Fan
26-09-2008, 09:28 PM
On the international scene, 56-year old Eugene Torre defeated 19-year old Li Chao in the 3rd PGMA Cup this year with the black pieces. Here is the game:

Li Chao (2590) - E. Torre (2524) [C45]
3rd PGMA Cup/Manila PHI (7) 2008

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Bc5 5. Be3 Qf6 6. c3 Nge7 7. Bc4 Ne5 8. Be2 d5 9. O-O O-O 10. Nd2 Bb6 11. f4 N5c6 12. e5 Qh6 13. N2f3 Nxd4 14. Nxd4 Nf5 15. Bf2 Nxd4 16. Bxd4 c5 17. Be3 d4 18. Bd2 Bf5 19. Bf3 Rad8 20. c4 Qe6 21. b3 Qe7 22. Qe2 Rfe8 23. g4 Bc8 24. Qg2 Qc7 25. a3 Ba5 26.b4 Bb6 27. Rac1 a5 28. b5 a4 29. Be4 Ba5 30. Bxa5 Qxa5 31. Bd3 Qc7 32. Rce1 g6 33. Qg3 Re7 34. f5 Rde8 35. b6 Qb8 36. Qf4 Rxe5 37. fxg6 fxg6 38. Qf7+ Kh8 39. Qf6+ Kg8 40. Be4 Be6 41. Bxg6 Rxe1 42. Rxe1 hxg6 43.Qxg6+ Kf8 44. Qh6+ Kf7 45. Qh7+ Kf6 46. g5+ Kxg5 47. Qg7+ Kf5 48. Rf1+ Ke4 49. Qg6+ Ke3 50. Re1+ Kd2 51. Qb1 Rg8+ 52. Kh1 Bg4 53. Rf1 Qe8 54. h3 Bf3+ 55. Rxf3 Qe1+ 56. Qxe1+ Kxe1 57. Rf7 d3 0-1

Torre went on to win the tournament with 7/9 on tiebreak ahead of Li Chao and Zhang Zhong, both of whom obtained the same score.

Capablanca-Fan
29-09-2008, 04:20 PM
Li Chao (2590) - E. Torre (2524) [C45]
3rd PGMA Cup/Manila PHI (7) 2008

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Bc5 5. Be3 Qf6 6. c3 Nge7 7. Bc4 Ne5 8. Be2 d5 9. O-O O-O 10. Nd2 Bb6 11. f4 N5c6 12. e5 Qh6 13. N2f3 Nxd4 14. Nxd4 Nf5 15. Bf2 Nxd4 16. Bxd4 c5 17. Be3 d4 18. Bd2 Bf5 19. Bf3 Rad8 20. c4 Qe6 21. b3 Qe7 22. Qe2 Rfe8 23. g4 Bc8 24. Qg2 Qc7 25. a3 Ba5 26.b4 Bb6 27. Rac1 a5 28. b5 a4 29. Be4 Ba5 30. Bxa5 Qxa5 31. Bd3 Qc7 32. Rce1 g6 33. Qg3 Re7 34. f5 Rde8 35. b6 Qb8 36. Qf4 Rxe5 37. fxg6 fxg6 38. Qf7+ Kh8 39. Qf6+ Kg8 40. Be4 Be6 41. Bxg6 Rxe1 42. Rxe1 hxg6 43.Qxg6+ Kf8 44. Qh6+ Kf7 45. Qh7+ Kf6 46. g5+ Kxg5 47. Qg7+ Kf5 48. Rf1+ Ke4 49. Qg6+ Ke3 50. Re1+ Kd2 51. Qb1 Rg8+ 52. Kh1 Bg4 53. Rf1 Qe8 54. h3 Bf3+ 55. Rxf3 Qe1+ 56. Qxe1+ Kxe1 57. Rf7 d3 0-1

Good result by the veteran. But White had several chances to force straightforward perpetuals in this game, and lost only because he overpressed.

Miranda
06-10-2008, 10:52 PM
lol
a thread where adults can boast about their victories over kids? Shouldn't it be the other way round? lol I hope none of my previous opponents see this thread, or else they might post some of my embarrasing losses!

(and trust me, there are plenty of those!)

MichaelBaron
07-10-2008, 05:08 PM
lol
a thread where adults can boast about their victories over kids? Shouldn't it be the other way round? lol I hope none of my previous opponents see this thread, or else they might post some of my embarrasing losses!

(and trust me, there are plenty of those!)

Lets not have other way around "grins" - two weeks ago - i lost my first game in 1.5 years - and this happened to be 11 year old kid. So lets try beat up the kids while they are young and vulnerable ;)

Adamski
19-11-2008, 08:25 PM
Lets not have other way around "grins" - two weeks ago - i lost my first game in 1.5 years - and this happened to be 11 year old kid. So lets try beat up the kids while they are young and vulnerable ;)Yes! I started this thread because too many times I have been on the other end - the person donating the improving junior the points! To make Miranda and drug feel better, I'll give an instance, So here attached is a game I lost to a 16 year old or so David Webster, now an 1800+ player. I had slightly the better of it (my Fritz 7 agrees) until I blundered a vital pawn on move 29 after which I was lost. Sadly, a typical Adamski blunder. Hopefully, the days of such silly fast moves without basic thinking are over!

Adamski
19-11-2008, 08:57 PM
Yes! I started this thread because too many times I have been on the other end - the person donating the improving junior the points! To make Miranda and drug feel better, I'll give an instance, So here attached is a game I lost to a 16 year old or so David Webster, now an 1800+ player. I had slightly the better of it (my Fritz 7 agrees) until I blundered a vital pawn on move 29 after which I was lost. Sadly, a typical Adamski blunder. Hopefully, the days of such silly fast moves without basic thinking are over!Practising! 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nf6 5.Ng3 g6 6.Nf3 Bg7 7.c3 O-O 8.Bd3 Nbd7 9.Bd2 Re8 10.O-O e5 11.Bc4 exd4 12.Nxd4 Ne5 13.Bb3 c5 14.Nde2 Nd3 15.Nf4 Ng4 16.Nxd3 Qxd3 17.Re1 Bd7 18.Bc2 Qd6 19.h3 Nf6 20.Be3 Qc7 21.Qd2 Rad8 22.Bf4 Qb6 23.Rxe8+ Bxe8 24.Qc1 Bc6 25.Rb1 Nd5 26.Bb3 Qa5 27.Bd2 Nc7? 28.Bg5 Rd7 29.Qe3 b5?? 30.Qxc5 Bd5 31.Rd1 Bf8 32.Qe3 Bc6 33.Rxd7 Bxd7 34.Bd8 Bd6 35.Ne4 Be5 36.Ng5 b4 37.Nxf7 1-0 I hope this works! Thanks to Jono and Zw who told me the basics of how.

Zwischenzug
19-11-2008, 09:16 PM
You are missing moves 23 and 24. All you need to do is copy and paste the game with the [ pgn ] tags. If you edit for post to include these two moves then it should be fine.

Adamski
19-11-2008, 09:21 PM
You are missing moves 23 and 24. All you need to do is copy and paste the game with the [ pgn ] tags. If you edit for post to include these two moves then it should be fine.Done!

Zwischenzug
19-11-2008, 09:26 PM
Almost there, a small typo in move 37. It should be 37.Nxf7 not 37.Ncf7+.