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Leonid Sandler
17-05-2008, 07:42 AM
Dates and venues for Victorian Championship 2008 are now available on CV website www.chessvictoria.netfirms.com
All other information(prizes,entry fees,etc) will be published shortly.

ER
19-05-2008, 08:00 PM
Dates and venues for Victorian Championship 2008 are now available on CV website www.chessvictoria.netfirms.com
All other information(prizes,entry fees,etc) will be published shortly.

I am playing, hehe! :)
Cheers and good luck!

Leonid Sandler
21-05-2008, 08:45 PM
National Gallery of Victoria will host the last round of State Championship Details on www.chessvictoria.netfirms.com

Metro
21-05-2008, 10:34 PM
National Gallery of Victoria will host the last round of State Championship Details on www.chessvictoria.netfirms.com

Good work! I will try to get there.I remember about 3 years ago I went there but was a touch too late.I bumped into White Elephant nearby at the Arts Centre.

Tony_Chow
03-08-2008, 06:29 PM
Q. Are entry forms available yet for this Tournament that starts next month?

I have looked at the dedicated website a few minutes ago, but there is no entry form yet.

eclectic
12-08-2008, 11:22 PM
the entry form is now available at the site along with a form for stating the playing sessions for which you are available

http://www.chessvictoria.netfirms.com/availability_schedule.htm

http://www.chessvictoria.netfirms.com/entry_form1.htm

Publicist
13-08-2008, 05:52 AM
The web master seems to think that all necessary information is now available on the CV website http://chessvictoria.netfirms.com
Go to championships via 08 CV tournaments

eclectic
02-09-2008, 07:58 PM
any developments?

Leonid Sandler
04-09-2008, 08:59 PM
The following players has officially entered to play
1. Malcolm Pyke
2.Eddy Levi
3.Douglas Lindberg
4.Victor Kildisas
Some others have indicated their interest to play amongst them D.Dragisevic,A.Pecori,I.Goldenberg,M.Rujevic,L.San dler,C.Gorka,S.Anton,N.Szuveges...
The deadline for entries September 20th at 6-00 pm

Leonid Sandler
12-09-2008, 08:52 PM
Saturday September 13th at around 1245pm Chess Victoria President Katrin Wills will be talking with Denis Walters about upcoming Victorian Championhip.
Radio station 3AW

Solo
13-09-2008, 01:18 AM
Denis Walter was a classical bass singer who I liked a lot and is now the radio announcer. I hope it goes well for Katrin!

Leonid Sandler
13-09-2008, 08:04 PM
Two more players has officially entered today
Victorian Champion Igor Goldenberg and David Hacche.
Deadline for entries is September 20th 6-00 pm

Leonid Sandler
16-09-2008, 02:25 PM
The following players has entered Vcitorian Championhip events 2008
I.Goldenberg,M.Rujevic,M.Pyke,V.Kildisas,D.Lindber g,D.Dragisevic,O.Bashir,
D.Hacche,C.Gorka,E.Levi,Sharlotte Dilnutt.
Deadline for the entries September 20th at 6-00pm

ER
17-09-2008, 07:39 PM
The following players has entered Vcitorian Championhip events 2008
I.Goldenberg,M.Rujevic,M.Pyke,V.Kildisas,D.Lindber g,D.Dragisevic,O.Bashir,
D.Hacche,C.Gorka,E.Levi,Sharlotte Dilnutt.
Deadline for the entries September 20th at 6-00pm

I will see you on Friday night at the Box Hill Chess Club Leonid and Trevor, I need your advice in regards to deciding which dates etc! :) cheers and good luck! Elliott

MichaelBaron
18-09-2008, 10:07 AM
I need your advice in regards to deciding which dates Elliott


I wish i had so many dates that i would need advice to decide which ones :)

dj023102
18-09-2008, 09:18 PM
Hey guys, have been playing chess on the net and just wanted to play in a tournament and i was just wondering how do u go about entering the 'chess victoria' tournament? do u have to be part of a chess victoria affliated club?
Can u just play in the tournament without a rank?
Thanks guy, really appreicate it

bobby1972
18-09-2008, 10:22 PM
the top 10 in the state rankings plus the winner of last years reserves

bobby1972
20-09-2008, 08:34 AM
i mailed my entry on wenesday i hope they have got it by today?

Ninja
20-09-2008, 03:31 PM
the top 10 in the state rankings plus the winner of last years reserves
A more useful answer might be to suggest that the best place to start out playing tournament chess might be to contact your local chess club. http://chessvictoria.netfirms.com/affiliated_clubs.htm
There are also a number of tournaments that are open to all players. ie MCC Memorial this weekend or the upcoming Elwood tournament played over the Melbourne Cup long weekend.

eclectic
20-09-2008, 04:31 PM
A more useful answer might be to suggest that the best place to start out playing tournament chess might be to contact your local chess club. http://chessvictoria.netfirms.com/affiliated_clubs.htm
There are also a number of tournaments that are open to all players. ie MCC Memorial this weekend or the upcoming Elwood tournament played over the Melbourne Cup long weekend.

the poster was asking about playing in the victorian championship and its associated events and the necessity of needing to be a member of an affiliated club

what eligibility conditions apply for other events is irrelevant

WhiteElephant
20-09-2008, 05:10 PM
the poster was asking about playing in the victorian championship and its associated events and the necessity of needing to be a member of an affiliated club

what eligibility conditions apply for other events is irrelevant

I got the impression he was asking how to go about playing some tournament chess, he probably wasn't aware of the eligibility criteria for the Vic Championships. I doubt he would be one of the top 10 rated players in the state if he has only played some online chess. But you never know! :D

EBT
20-09-2008, 11:35 PM
So who's playing? Today's the deadline, I believe.

Leonid Sandler
21-09-2008, 10:17 PM
Today International Arbiter Gary Bekker made pairings for Victorian Championship 2008.Here are the results.
1.A.Pecori (ACF rating 2108)
2.D.Hacche 2100
3.C.Gorka 2068
4.E.Levi 2156
5.G.West 2299
6.M.Pyke 2114
7.D.Stojic 2147
8.L,Sandler 2219
9.I.Goldenberg 2352
10.D.Dragisevic 2132
11.M.Rujevic 2229

Reserves tournament pairings will be announced tomorrow.
First games will be played September 27th in Elwood chess club(87 Tennyson Street,Elwood) at 1-15pm.Timetables for the participants will be published no later than September 24th.

Leonid Sandler
22-09-2008, 06:35 PM
Victorian Championship Reserves 2008 pairings
1.N.Ivanov (ACF rating 1417)
2.V.Kildisas 1909
3.S.Anton 1451
4.E.Tionko 1788
5.P.Skiotis 2049
6.N.Szuveges 1689
7.N.Stirling 2046
8.L.Kempen 1905
9.S.Stojic 1856
10.O.Bashir 1984
11.D.Lindberg 1941
First games will be played September 27th in Elwood Chess Club (87 Tennyson Street,Elwood).Starting time 1-15pm.
Pairings for the first few rounds will be published no later than September 24th

ER
22-09-2008, 09:34 PM
ok my prediction for the reserves is
(MUSIC, DRUMS, etc etc)
DOUGLAS LINDBERG

ER
22-09-2008, 09:43 PM
And now for the big one!
(MUSIC, DRUMS etc)
ok jak, let sentimentalities aside, I know you have plenty of friends in this... hmmm ... well I am not exactly reluctant, let alone hesitant!!! hmmm I think, but then again... just a second, well I am not sure but, if he repeats his form of earlier this year hmmmm, well I am sure he has been preparing for this! His performance has been stable throughout the year, he had a tremendous tournament win earlier in 2008... all he has to do is believe in his abilities. He is popular, a hard working chess personality, a real possitive exponent of the game... ok ladies and gentlemen, the undisputed 2008 Chess Champion of Victoria is ....
well I 'll tell you tomorrow! ;)
CAGLES for now

Leonid Sandler
23-09-2008, 08:37 PM
Former Australian Champion Fide Master Doug Hamilton (ACF 2113) will play in Victorian Championship 2008.

Carl Gorka (ACF 2068) kindly agreed to play in Reserves tournament .
Thank you Carl for the good sportsmanship!

Victorian Championship

1.Ascaro Pecori 2108
2.David Hacche 2100
3.Doug Hamilton 2113
4.Eddy Levi 2156
5.Guy West 2299
6.Malcolm Pyke 2114
7.Dusan Stojic 2147
8.Leonid Sandler 2219
9.Igor Goldenberg 2352
10.Domagoi Dragisevic 2132
11.Mirko Rujevic 2229

Average rating app. 2194


Reserves Tournament

1.Nick Ivanov 1417
2.Victor Kildisas 1909
3.Sarah Anton 1451
4.Efraim Tionko 1788
5.Pano Skiotis 2049
6.Narelle Szuveges 1689
7.Nathan Stirling 2046
8.Leon Kempen 1905
9.Svetozar Stojic 1856
10.Omar Bashir 1984
11.Douglas Lindberg 1941
12.Carl Gorka 2068

Average rating 1833

Metro
23-09-2008, 10:37 PM
Former Australian Champion Fide Master Doug Hamilton (ACF 2113) will play in Victorian Championship 2008.

Carl Gorka (ACF 2068) kindly agreed to play in Reserves tournament .
Thank you Carl for the good sportsmanship!



Good on you,Carl:clap:

ER
23-09-2008, 10:40 PM
Well he is English, it is expected! :) :clap:
Cheers mate!

ER
23-09-2008, 10:41 PM
And now for the big one!
(MUSIC, DRUMS etc)
ok jak, let sentimentalities aside, I know you have plenty of friends in this... hmmm ... well I am not exactly reluctant, let alone hesitant!!! hmmm I think, but then again... just a second, well I am not sure but, if he repeats his form of earlier this year hmmmm, well I am sure he has been preparing for this! His performance has been stable throughout the year, he had a tremendous tournament win earlier in 2008... all he has to do is believe in his abilities. He is popular, a hard working chess personality, a real possitive exponent of the game... ok ladies and gentlemen, the undisputed 2008 Chess Champion of Victoria is ....
well I 'll tell you tomorrow! ;)
CAGLES for now

MALCOLM PYKE!!!

EBT
23-09-2008, 10:52 PM
Reserves Tournament

1.Nick Ivanov 1417
2.Victor Kildisas 1909
3.Sarah Anton 1451
4.Efraim Tionko 1788
5.Pano Skiotis 2049
6.Narelle Szuveges 1689
7.Nathan Stirling 2046
8.Leon Kempen 1905
9.Svetozar Stojic 1856
10.Omar Bashir 1984
11.Douglas Lindberg 1941
12.Carl Gorka 2068

Average rating 1833
Does this mean that the Reserves will now be run as an 11-round tournament? :confused:

Bill Gletsos
23-09-2008, 10:55 PM
Does this mean that the Reserves will now be run as an 11-round tournament? :confused:It was always 11 rounds as an 11 player round robin is still 11 rounds.
The only difference now is there is no bye in each round.

Carl Gorka
23-09-2008, 11:42 PM
Good on you,Carl:clap:

Not a worry to me...I want the championship to be as strong as possible, and my recent bad health means that I'd probably be lucky to score anything in the championship anyway:D

I'm just happy to be playing:) :)

Carl Gorka
23-09-2008, 11:44 PM
Well he is English, it is expected! :) :clap:
Cheers mate!

I'm an Aussie citizen:P

EBT
23-09-2008, 11:46 PM
It was always 11 rounds as an 11 player round robin is still 11 rounds.
The only difference now is there is no bye in each round.
Okay thanks, that makes sense.

Carl Gorka
24-09-2008, 11:41 AM
Does this mean that the Reserves will now be run as an 11-round tournament? :confused:

The format of the Vic Ch doesn't easily lend itself to number of rounds. Players choose available days and a first round pairing may be played later in the tournament. It is simpler to say that all the players will now have to play 11 games rather than 10.

For pairings purposes it will be considered a 12 player round robin (ie 11 rounds), but that will only determine colours of each pairing, not the order in which the games are played.

Leonid Sandler
24-09-2008, 08:22 PM
Victorian Championship and Victorian Championship Reserve will be starting Saturday September 27th at 1-15pm.Venue Elwood chess club(87 Tennyson street,Elwood).
Here are the first games pairings
Champioship
M.Rujevic-D.Hamilton
L.Sandler-E.Levi

Reserves
D.Lindberg-S.Anton
V.Kildisas-N.Stirling
P.Skiotis-L.Kempen

Carl Gorka
24-09-2008, 09:30 PM
Leonard, can you confirm whether the Reserves tournament is to be FIDE rated?

queenant89
24-09-2008, 10:27 PM
Leonid, im not sure if on my entry to think of it, whether or not i said i couldnt play on the 4th october, but anyhow i cant play due to the vic country championships

D Dragicevic
24-09-2008, 11:52 PM
What about pairings for Tuesday and Thursday next week?

Leonid Sandler
25-09-2008, 09:10 AM
Victorian Championship and Victorian Championship Reserve will be Fide rated.
Pairings for the September 30 and October 2 will be published today.

Leonid Sandler
25-09-2008, 08:11 PM
Victorian Championship pairings for the next week are as follows

Tuesday September 30th ,Box Hill Chess Club(3 Rochester rd,Canterbury).
Starting time 7-45pm

M.Rujevic-I.Goldenberg
E.Levi-D.Stojic
D.Hamilton-M.Pyke
L.Sandler-D.Hacche

Thursday October 2,Melbourne Chess Club(66 Leicester st,Fitzroy)
Starting time 7-30 pm

M.Pyke-M.Rujevic
I.Goldenberg-D.Dragisevic
D.Stojic-L.Sandler
D.Hacche-D.Hamilton

Saturday October 4,Elwood Chess Club(87 Tennyson Street,Elwood)
Starting time 1-15pm

E.Levi-I.Goldenberg
D.Hacche-M.Rujevic
A.Pecori-L.Sandler

First games will be played September 27th in Elwood Chess club
M.Rujevic-D.Hamilton
L.Sandler-E.Levi

Leonid Sandler
25-09-2008, 09:58 PM
Victorian Champioship Reserve pairings for the next week are as follows

September 30,Box Hill Chess Club

V.Kildisas-S.Stojic
N.Ivanov-O.Bashir
D.Lindberg-N.Stirling
L.Kempen-E.Tionko

October 2,Melbourne Chess Club

S.Stojic-N.Ivanov
P.Skiotis-C.Gorka
S.Anton-O.Bashir
E.Tionko-D.Lindberg
l.Kempen-N.Szuveges

October 4,Elwood Chess Club

C.Gorka-V.KIldisas
L.Kempen-.D.Lindberg
P.Skiotis-E.Tionko

First games are this Saturday,September 27 at Elwood Chess Club

D.Lindberg-S.Anton
V.KIldisas-N.Stirling
P.Skiotis-L.Kempen

Bereaved
26-09-2008, 02:19 AM
Hello Leonid

I think the colours in the pairing

M.Pyke-D.Hamilton

should be reversed? is that correct?

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

EBT
26-09-2008, 06:26 AM
October 2,Melbourne Chess Club

S.Stojic-N.Ivanov
P.Skiotis-C.Gorka
S.Anton-O.Bashir
N.Szuveges-D.Lindberg
O.Bashir-L.Kempen

O.Bashir can't be playing two games in one night...

Leonid Sandler
26-09-2008, 07:06 AM
Thank you .
Now fixed.

Leonid Sandler
27-09-2008, 08:50 PM
Victorian Championship
M.Rujevic-D.Hamilton 1-0
LSandler-E.Levi postponed because of Eddy illness.

Victorian Championship Reserves
D.Lindberg-S.Anton 1-0
V.Kildisas-N.Stirling 0,5-0,5
P.Skiotis-L.Kempen 1-0

Next session will be played at Box Hill Chess September 30th

Leonid Sandler
30-09-2008, 12:02 PM
September 30th( Box Hill Chess Club)

Kildisas-Stojic
Ivanov-Bashir
Lindberg-Stirling
Kempen-Tionko

October 2nd(Melbourne Chess Club)

Stojic-Ivanov
Skiotis-Gorka
Anton-Bashir
Tionko-Lindberg
Kempen-Szuveges

October 4th(Elwood Chess Club)

Gorka-Kildisas
Kempen-Lindberg
Tionko-Skiotis

October 7th (BHCC)
Anton-Ivanov
Stojic-Gorka
Kempen-Kildisas
Stirling-Bashir
Szuveges-Lindberg

October 9th(MCC)
Ivanov-Szuveges
Stojic-Skiotis
Gorka-Tionko
Anton-Kempen

October 11th(Elwood CC)
Tionko-Stirling
Skiotis-Anton
Gorka-Kempen
Kildisas-Lindberg

October 14th(BHCC)
Stojic-Szuveges
Ivanov-Kildisas
Anton-Tionko
Bashir-Kempen

October 16th(MCC)
Skiotis-Ivanov
Anton-Gorka
Stojic-Bashir
Szuveges-Tionko

October 18th (Elwood CC)
Lindberg-Skiotis
Tionko-Kildisas
Stirling-Anton

October 21st(BHCC)
Szuveges-Kildisas
Gorka-Bashir
Lindberg-Stojic
Stirling-Ivanov

October 23rd(MCC)
Bashir-Szuveges
Stirling-Skiotis
Kempen-Stojic
Ivanov-Gorka

October 25th(Elwood CC)
Lindberg-Ivanov
Kildisas-Skiotis
Anton-Szuveges
Stirling-Gorka

October 28th(BHCC)
Tionko-Stojic
Ivanov-Kempen
Szuveges-Stirling
Bashir-Kildisas

October 30th(MCC)
Bashir-Skiotis
Stojic-Stirling

November 8th(Elwood CC)
Ivanov-Tionko
Kildisas-Anton
Gorka-Szuveges
Bashir-Lindberg

November 9th (Victorian Art Centre,starting time 12-00 noon)

Ivanov-Kildisas
Stojic-Anton
Bashir-Tionko
Skiotis-Szuveges
Stirling-Kempen
Lindberg-Gorka

Games starting times
Elwood Chess Club 1-15pm
Box Hill Chess Club 7-45pm
Melbourne Chess Club 7-30pm

Leonkempen
01-10-2008, 12:41 AM
Leonid
The above post shows me having 4 whites and 7 blacks. This cannot be correct. The pairing for Oct 2 is now shown as Szuveges-Kempen but your earlier post #43 showed l.Kempen-N.Szuveges. Please confirm that I have White. Thanks
Leon

Leonkempen
01-10-2008, 07:46 AM
Leonid
I also checked all my pairings with the "official rules" pairing table for 12 players, using the player numbers as listed on the CV website. I am no.8 and Narelle is no. 4. This confirms the pairing to be Kempen-Szuveges and all my other pairings are correct colour assignment.
Leon

Leonid Sandler
01-10-2008, 09:06 AM
Yes,Leon you are right
Kempen-Szuveges is correct.Sorry for misprint.

D Dragicevic
01-10-2008, 10:44 AM
Hi Leonid,

Just wondering when Championships schedule will be put up...

MichaelBaron
01-10-2008, 12:10 PM
Hi Leonid,

Just wondering when Championships schedule will be put up...

Domagoi, Just go to the previous page of the thread

D Dragicevic
01-10-2008, 01:04 PM
Domagoi, Just go to the previous page of the thread

Yeh, I know that's the schedule for first few games, but Reserves have the full schedule, that's what I am after.. unless i am missing something obvious...

Bill Gletsos
01-10-2008, 03:16 PM
Yes,Leon you are right
Kempen-Szuveges is correct.Sorry for misprint.I have corrected it in your post above.

Leonid Sandler
01-10-2008, 07:24 PM
October 2nd(Melbourne Chess Club)
Pyke-Rujevic
Goldenberg-Dragisevic
Stojic-Sandler
Hacche-Hamilton

October 4th(Elwood Chess Club)
Levi-Goldenberg
Hacche-Rujevic
Pecori-Sandler

October 7th(Box Hill Chess Club)
Rujevic-Stojic
Hacche-Goldenberg
Hamilton-Levi
Sandler-Pyke

October 9th(MCC)
Pyke-Goldenberg
Stojic-Dragisevic
Sandler-Rujevic
Pecori-Hacche

October 11th(Elwood CC)
Hamilton-Pecori
Levi-Rujevic
Hacche-West

October 14th(BHCC)
Stojic-West
Pecori-Levi
Dragisevic-Pyke

October 16th(MCC)
Pecori-Dragisevic
Pyke-Hacche
West-Hamilton

October 18th(Elwood CC)
Rujevic-West
Levi-Hacche

October 21st(BHCC)
Levi-West
Goldenberg-Stojic
Hamilton-Dragisevic

October 23rd(MCC)
Hamilton-Sandler
Pyke-Stojic
West-Dragisevic

October 25th(Elwood CC)
West-Sandler
Goldenberg-Pecori

October 28th(BHCC)

Sandler-Levi
Dragisevic-Rujevic
Goldenberg-Hamilton
Pecori-Pyke

October 30th(MCC)
Dragisevic-Sandler
Pyke-Levi
Hacche-Stojic
West-Pecori

November 8th(Elwood CC)
Stojic-Pecori
Goldenberg-West
Dragisevic-Levi

November 9th (National Gallery of Victoria,St.Kilda Rd,starting time 12-00 noon)

Rujevic-Pecori
Sandler-Goldenberg
Dragisevic-Hacche
Hamilton-Stojic
West-Pyke

Leonid Sandler
03-10-2008, 12:32 AM
Results from the last night games are as follows
I.Goldenberg-D.Dragisevic 1-0
D.Hacche-D.Hamilton 0,5-0,5
D.Stojic-L.Sandler 0,5-0,5
M.Pyke-.Rujevic 0,5-0,5

Reserves tournament
P.Skiotis-C.Gorka 1-0
E.Tionko-D.Lindberg 1-0
L.Kempen-N.Szuveges 1-0
S.Anton-O.Bashar 0-1
S.Stojic-N.Ivanov 1-0

Next games will be played October 4th at Elwood Chess Club

ER
03-10-2008, 04:51 PM
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Details to follow soon!
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Leonid Sandler
04-10-2008, 07:56 PM
Todays results from Elwood Chess Club

Championship
E.Levi-I.Goldenberg 0,5-0,5
A.Pecori-L.Sandler 0,5-0,5
D.Hacche-M.Rujevic 1-0

Reserves
C.Gorka-V.Kildisas 1-0
E.Tionko-P.Skiotis 0-1
L.Kempen-D.Lindberg was still in progress when I left.

Now we have a clear leader in Championship Igor Goldenberg 2,5 points from 3 games,David Hacche is on 2 points with bunch of players on 50%.
Next games will be played Tuesday October 7th at Box Hill Chess Club

In reserves tournament Pano Skiotis won all his 3 games and looks like he is the man to catch.

Leonkempen
04-10-2008, 08:54 PM
My game against Douglas Lindberg ended as a draw after 124 moves. Carl, I'm happy to send pgn files for my games - I have reconstructed them after deciphering my handwriting; bit of an effort as they tend to be very long!

Carl Gorka
04-10-2008, 10:42 PM
My game against Douglas Lindberg ended as a draw after 124 moves. Carl, I'm happy to send pgn files for my games - I have reconstructed them after deciphering my handwriting; bit of an effort as they tend to be very long!

Thanks Leon, and well done today, I thought you had blown a win when I left, and couldn't work out what was happening....you'd just lost your h-pawn.

BTW, I wish I'd read your offer before inputting your 97 move game with Pano:eek: But no worries, your handwriting is very legible, unlike some others I could mention :wall:

Leonid Sandler
10-10-2008, 02:51 PM
October 9th results are as follows
Pecori-Hacche draw
Sandler-Rujevic draw
Pyke-Goldenberg 0-1
D.Stojic-Dragisevic draw

Igor Goldenberg is runaway leader with 4,5 points from 5 games.
The only chance to catch him got Guy West who will join the tournament after campaign in India.

Reserves tournament results
S.Stojic-Skiotis 0-1
Gorka-Tionko 1-0
Anton-Kempen 0-1
Ivanov-Szuveges 1-0

One game was played October 8th in Melbourne chess club
Anton-Ivanov 1-0

Pano Skiotis is the sole leader with 4 points from 4 games
Leon Kempen is also scored 4 points but after 6 games.

Next games will be played in Elwood chess club Saturday October 11th.
Hamilton-Hacche
Levi-Rujevic
Hacche-West

Kildisas-Lindberg
Skiotis-Anton
Tionko-Stirling
Gorka-Kempen

bobby1972
10-10-2008, 03:00 PM
i thought it was


hamilton-pecori
levi-rujevic
hacche-west


which draw is coorect

Leonid Sandler
10-10-2008, 03:46 PM
Yes Ascaro,you are right
Hamilton-Pecori
Hacche-West
Levi-Rujevic
Sorry for misprint.
Leonid

Igor_Goldenberg
10-10-2008, 07:34 PM
I though Hamilton-Levi was 0-1, not 1-0.

Publicist
15-10-2008, 05:11 PM
The result page on the CV web site has now been updated As the recording of results is somewhat complicated with multiple venues, the web master would be grateful if the players were to check their results and inform him of any missing or incorrectly recorded results

bergil
15-10-2008, 05:30 PM
The result page on the CV web site has now been updated As the recording of results is somewhat complicated with multiple venues, the web master would be grateful if the players were to check their results and inform him of any missing or incorrectly recorded resultsIf you are going to have multiple venues (As NSW did this year) then shouldn't you have an arbiter or nominated representative from CV at every venue? :hmm:

Leonkempen
15-10-2008, 08:21 PM
The result page on the CV web site has now been updated As the recording of results is somewhat complicated with multiple venues, the web master would be grateful if the players were to check their results and inform him of any missing or incorrectly recorded results

Happy to do so but the CV web site only records the web master email as the website address. The missing results for me are:
R4 Gorka 0.5 - 0.5 Kempen
R9 Kempen 0.5 - 0.5 Kildisas
R11 Kempen 1 - 0 Tionko

The other 5 results (to date) for me are recorded correctly.

Cheers

Carl Gorka
15-10-2008, 10:56 PM
Sarah Anton has requested a postponement of our game for tomorrow night. We will be playing it on Thursday 30th October at MCC.

Hope that is ok.

queenant89
18-10-2008, 02:08 PM
I requested another postponement. Nathan Stirling and I are playing 5th November at MCC

D Dragicevic
18-10-2008, 10:04 PM
The results page on Chess Victoria webpage doesn't seem to have been updated for a while as I can see there are few results missing. I don't know any results from last Saturday, 11/10 games.. So yeah, at the moment it's a bit difficult to know whats going on in the tournament which is a bit dissapointing...

ER
19-10-2008, 12:05 AM
Since Internet was first used as a means of chess clubs communication and information of the wider community, I do not think there is a worse state of affairs than the present one with CV in regards to Vic Championships.
Wrong pairings and results, delayed if any information, what's going on?
On the other hand, some of us armchair critics should redeploy our fingers and do something useful methinks.
Cagles!

eclectic
19-10-2008, 12:20 AM
Since Internet was first used as a means of chess clubs communication and information of the wider community, I do not think there is a worse state of affairs than the present one with CV in regards to Vic Championships.
Wrong pairings and results, delayed if any information, what's going on?
On the other hand, some of us armchair critics should redeploy our fingers and do something useful methinks.
Cagles!

probably a hangover from the wastell era ie bottlenecks with respect to delegation like if a few more had permission to access certain areas of their site then things would be freed up allowing more frequent updates

ER
19-10-2008, 12:36 AM
Eclectic, I remember clearly Wastell encouraging people left, right and centre to assist him with that job. As you well know, keeping a website is not an easy business! I also remember a young student from the Box Hill Chess Club, undertaking media officer's duties for awhile and doing a fine job.
I also remember myself who acts smart now, putting myself forward for the position a couple of years ago and then (regardless of the reasons) chickening out from the start!
In that case, David Flude covered for me and did a fine job as he usually does!
Cagles

Publicist
19-10-2008, 08:20 PM
The result page on the CV web site has now been updated As the recording of results is somewhat complicated with multiple venues, the web master would be grateful if the players were to check their results and inform him of any missing or incorrectly recorded results
This request was posted 15.10. Only Leon Kempen and Omar Bashar have responded by submitting their results.
Email: gerrit.hartland@bigpond.com for those who are interested.

Leonid Sandler
20-10-2008, 08:47 AM
Hi all,
I have just returned from China.
Here are the update standings.
Victorian Championship
I.Goldenberg 4,5 from 5 games
M.Rujevic 4 from 7 games
D.Hacche 4 from 8 games
D.Hamilton and E.Levi 3,5 from 6 games
D.Stojic and L.Sandler 2,5 from 5 games
D.Dragisevic 1,5 from 3 games
A.Pecori 1,5 from 5 games
M.Pyke 1 from 5 games
G.West 0,5 from 3 games

Games D.Dragisevic-M.Pyke
M.Rujevic-G.West to be rescheduled





Victorian Reserves
P.Skiotis 6 points from 7 games
D.Lindberg 4,5 from 7 games
V.Kildisas and L.Kempen both on 4,5 from 8 games
O.Bashar 4 from 5 games
N.Stirling 3 from 4 games
S.Stojic 3 from 6 games
E.Tionko 3 from 7 games
C.Gorka 2,5 from 5 games
N.Ivanov 1,5 from 6 games
S.Anton 1 from 6 games
N.Szuveges 0,5 from 5 games

The following games had been rescheduled
S.Anton-C.Gorka to be played October 30th
N.Stirling-S.Anton to be played November 5th

We are in the process of updating results on CV website

D Dragicevic
20-10-2008, 10:26 PM
Malcolm and me played tonight and it was a draw...

MichaelBaron
21-10-2008, 11:16 AM
Malcolm and me played tonight and it was a draw...

It all my fault. I deprived Domagoi of victory by forgetting to call Malcolm's mobile on time ;)

Bereaved
24-10-2008, 02:07 AM
Hi everyone,

Here are results that I know tonight from the play at Melbourne chess club

Championship


Hamilton 0-1 Sandler

West 1-0 Dragicevic

Pyke 1-0 D. Stojic



Reserves


Stirling 0-1 Skiotis

Ivanov 0-1 Gorka

Omar Khalad Bashar draw Narelle Szuveges

Kempen 0-1 S. Stojic


I can't remember any other games from the Championships and Reserves, but on an MCC front, Papadinis lost to Kalisch, and Beckman lost to James Martin.


Take care and God Bless, Macavity

PS if anyone wants to know about the games, let me know and I can post some of the stories of them, maybe very specific stories, who knows?

bobby1972
25-10-2008, 09:27 PM
goldenberg- pecori 1-0

west-sandler 1-0

Watto
25-10-2008, 11:07 PM
Rujevic-West 0-1. Played on Friday night at the MCC.

Garvinator
26-10-2008, 12:08 AM
From looking at the stream of results that have been posted on here, it does seem like this tournament should be retitled to the play anywhere at anytime championship.

Spiny Norman
26-10-2008, 06:59 AM
Watto, those last two results for Guy should cheer him up!

Does anyone have the score of any of the games? It'd be nice to see some of them. Is this being centrally managed by anyone, or is it every man/woman for themselves and up to them to post their games?

MichaelBaron
26-10-2008, 10:04 AM
From looking at the stream of results that have been posted on here, it does seem like this tournament should be retitled to the play anywhere at anytime championship.
LOL :clap:

ER
26-10-2008, 12:38 PM
Chess Victoria do whatever they can to run this, admitedly complicated. tournament as smoothly as possible...
So before we start our positive or negative criticism let's have a look here

http://chessvictoria.netfirms.com/08_results.htm

Having said that, it seems that certain individuals, or organisations prefer particular sites to post their (excellent and in depth :clap: ) reports on the various stages of the event!
Now I understand that there are various circumstances that have led to this rather sad situation which results in one part of the Chess playing community to be less (or more) informed than the other.
I find it very hard to stomach, however, when representatives of the main State Chess Authority are willingly or unwillingly fall into the trap of adopting sides and preferences on a field that concerns the whole Chess Community.
On the other hand, forums give the opportunity to their members to report events as they wish so it is also up to us to do so!
Cheers and good luck!

PS Let me refer to one example of negative polarisation: One of the most interesting moments of this Championship is undoubtly the great form recovery of IM Guy West and in particular his true grit win over IM Mirko Rujevic at the MCC last Friday. Why don't we have report and analysis of this game here?

Leonid Sandler
26-10-2008, 01:42 PM
All games of Victorian Championship 2008 will be published with excellent Carl Gorka commentaries .The first bulleten had been distributed to all participants about a week ago.Next bulletin will be available October 28th.All results of the games are published on Chess Victoria website www.chessvictoria.netfirms.com.
The last round of Victorian Championship will take place November 9th at high profile venue in CBD which will serve to attract more publicity to the events and game of chess in general
May I suggest to armchair critics to look at the facts instead of trying to make silly comments about Victorian Championship

Garvinator
26-10-2008, 02:35 PM
May I suggest to armchair critics to look at the facts instead of trying to make silly comments about Victorian Championship
Not sure who this comment is directed at, but if it is at me, or me in part, I will reply.
I thought my comment was based on looking at the results, which I believe to be the facts. So in making my comment, I was looking at the facts.

If my facts are incorrect, or there are more facts that I am not aware of, feel free to put up these facts so we can discuss these new facts.

Spiny Norman
27-10-2008, 06:22 AM
Can't have been me ... all I did was ask a question about publishing of the games ... which has now been answered (thank you!).

Watto
27-10-2008, 08:55 AM
Watto, those last two results for Guy should cheer him up! :)


From looking at the stream of results that have been posted on here, it does seem like this tournament should be retitled to the play anywhere at anytime championship.
http://chessvictoria.netfirms.com/08_cv_playing_schedule.htm
Here’s the schedule. From what I’ve seen, games have been regularly played in Elwood on Saturday afternoons, at Box Hill CC on Tuesday evenings and at the MCC on Thursday evenings. A very small number of postponed games have been played at different times at one of these clubs. As has been done in the past, the final day of the championship will be played at the National Gallery of Victoria. Whether one agrees with a multiple venue policy or not, the schedule is quite clear really. The reporting of results is the only aspect which has seemed a tad haphazard to me at times.

Carl Gorka
27-10-2008, 09:17 AM
Not sure who this comment is directed at, but if it is at me, or me in part, I will reply.
I thought my comment was based on looking at the results, which I believe to be the facts. So in making my comment, I was looking at the facts.

If my facts are incorrect, or there are more facts that I am not aware of, feel free to put up these facts so we can discuss these new facts.

Victorian Championship has a published schedule, Fact.

Multiple Venues are to be used, Fact.

Some games have been postponed and rescheduled to be played at bona fide venues, Fact.

All these things also occured in the excellent NSW Championship this year, Fact.

Therefore, comments such as renaming an event the anywhere, anytime event are silly, Fact.

:)

Spiny Norman
27-10-2008, 09:26 AM
Therefore, comments such as renaming an event the anywhere, anytime event are silly, Fact.
Indeed ... I think that was the point ... "it was a joke, Joyce!". :)

Carl Gorka
27-10-2008, 09:35 AM
Indeed ... I think that was the point ... "it was a joke, Joyce!". :)

I'm not disagreeing, Fact :D

queenant89
27-10-2008, 01:25 PM
Heres my game i played against Narelle. It was quiet interesting

Event: Victorian Reserve Championships
Site: Elwood
Date: 2008.10.26
Round: 8
White: Anton, Sarah
Black: Szuveges, Narelle
Result: 1-0
ECO: B90
WhiteElo: 1417
BlackElo: 1689
Annotator: Sarah Anton
PlyCount: 73
EventDate: 2008.10.25
EventRounds: 11
SourceDate: 2008.10.05

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. Qd2
Be7 9. O-O-O Ng4 10. Kb1 Nxe3 11. Qxe3 Nd7 12. Nd5 Bxd5 13. Rxd5 O-O 14. f4
exf4 15. Qxf4 Ne5 16. Nd4 g6 17. h4 h5 18. Be2 Bf6 19. Bxh5 gxh5 20. Nf5 Ng6
21. Qh6 Qb6 22. b3 (22. e5 dxe5 23. Rd6) 22... Rfd8 23. Qxh5 Rac8 24. Nh6+ Kf8
25. Rf1 Rxc2 26. Rxf6 (26. Kxc2 Rc8+ 27. Kd1 Qe3 28. Rd2 Bb2 29. Rxf7+ Ke8 30.
Re7+ Kxe7 31. Nf5+ Kf8) 26... Rxg2 27. Rxf7+ Ke8 28. Qf3 Qg1+ 29. Rd1 Qh2 30.
Rf8+ Kd7 31. Rf7+ (31. Rf7+ Ke8) (31. Qf5+ Kc7 32. Qa5+ b6 33. Rc1+ Kb7 34.
Qd5+ Ka7 35. Rc7+ Kb8 36. Qb7#) 31... Ne7 32. Rxe7+ Kc6 33. Qc3+ Kb6 34. Qc7+
Kb5 35. Rd5+ Kb4 36. Qc4+ Ka3 37. Ra5# 1-0

Solo
27-10-2008, 03:12 PM
Great game you two, thanks for posting it. Usually f3 is played early to avoid ...Ng4 swapping off the dark square B. After that Black owned the dark squares, as they say. But you attacked very well, and it was a very good game because Narelle also counterattacked very well and there weren't many mistakes. It was similar to the game from overseas you posted.

MichaelBaron
28-10-2008, 11:39 PM
Well done, Sarah :clap:

You should be awarded title of Vic Women's champion for this effort!

Gattaca
29-10-2008, 01:22 PM
One of the most interesting moments of this Championship is undoubtly the great form recovery of IM Guy West and in particular his true grit win over IM Mirko Rujevic at the MCC last Friday. Why don't we have report and analysis of this game here?


Thanks, Elliot :D
Here's the game, for those who don't get the bulletins.

This variation of the Berlin is bad for Black of course, but I had to try something to complicate, due to my miserable tournament position.

10... Be6 might be a novelty as I have only seen 10...Kf8 suggested. I prefer my move. If he takes on g7 I wasn't intending 11...Kd7, 11...Rf8! is the idea, threatening f6 and Rg8. Black has plenty of play.

Of course White has a clear edge for much of the early part of the game but 23 Be5? is a big misstep.

He had one clear chance to draw the ending I think... 44 Qe4!

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 4.O-O Bc5 5.c3 Nxe4 6.Qe2 Bxf2+ 7.Rxf2 Nxf2 8.Bxc6 Nh3+ 9.gxh3 dxc6 10.Qxe5+ Be6 11.d4 O-O 12.Qg3 Bd5 13.Bf4 Bxf3 14.Qxf3 Qd7 15.Nd2 Rae8 16.Rf1 Re6 17.Ne4 b6 18.h4 Rfe8 19.Ng3 Re1 20.h5 Rxf1+ 21.Qxf1 Qd5 22.h6 c5 23.Be5 f6 24.hxg7 fxe5 25.Nh5 Qf7 26.Nf6+ Kxg7 27.Nxe8+ Qxe8 28.dxc5 Qg6+ 29.Kh1 Qe4+ 30.Kg1 Qg6+ 31.Kh1 Qc6+ 32.Kg1 Qxc5+ 33.Kg2 Qc6+ 34.Kg3 Qg6+ 35.Kh3 Qh5+ 36.Kg3 Qg5+ 37.Kh3 Kg6 38.Qc4 Qe3+ 39.Kg2 Qd2+ 40.Kg3 Qd7 41.a4 Kf6 42.Qh4+ Ke6 43.Qc4+ Ke7 44.Qh4+ Kd6 45.Qh6+ Kd5 46.b3 Ke4 47.Kf2 Qf5+ 48.Ke1 Kf3 49.Qg7 Qb1+ 50.Kd2 Qb2+ 51.Kd1 Qxb3+ 52.Kd2 Qa2+ 53.Kc1 Qa3+ 54.Kd2 Qd6+ 55.Ke1 Qg6 56.Qxc7 Qc2 57.Qc6+ Qe4+

Gattaca
29-10-2008, 01:36 PM
I don't think Leonid would have liked his opening position all that much and White had most of the chances throughout the game. Of course in countering threats of Rxe3 Leonid must have forgotten about the Qe8, Qg8++ threat, but the position was pretty hard to defend after White's 24th move. Just one of those games for Black where nothing goes right. I know the feeling!

1.e4 c5 2.f4 a6 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.Nc3 g6 5.d4 cxd4 6.Nxd4 Bg7 7.Be3 d6 8.Be2 Bd7 9.O-O Nf6 10.Qd2 O-O 11.a4 Nxd4 12.Bxd4 Bc6 13.a5 Nd7 14.Bxg7 Kxg7 15.Qd4+ Kg8 16.Bc4 Qc7 17.f5 Ne5 18.Bb3 Kg7 19.Kh1 Rab8 20.Rf3 f6 21.Rh3 Rh8 22.Qd2 g5 23.Rg3 Kf8 24.Be6 h6 25.Nd5 Bxd5 26.exd5 b5 27.axb6 Rxb6 28.Rc3 Qb7 29.b3 Kg7 30.Qe2 Ra8 31.Re3 Qb8 32.Ra4 Rb4 33.Rxb4 Qxb4 34.Re4 Qc3 35.h3 Ra7 36.Qh5 Rc7 37.Qe8

ER
29-10-2008, 09:15 PM
Thanks Guy, excellent fight back and really appreciated your posting the games with analytical notes too!
Cheers and good luck

Igor_Goldenberg
30-10-2008, 09:04 AM
I don't think Leonid would have liked his opening position all that much and White had most of the chances throughout the game. Of course in countering threats of Rxe3 Leonid must have forgotten about the Qe8, Qg8++ threat, but the position was pretty hard to defend after White's 24th move. Just one of those games for Black where nothing goes right. I know the feeling!

After 36... Ra8 (to prevent 37.Qe8) I did not find a defence for black after 37.g3 (threatening 38.Rxe5)

ER
30-10-2008, 09:14 AM
After 36... Ra8 (to prevent 37.Qe8) I did not find a defence for black after 37.g3 (threatening 38.Rxe5)

Hi Igor
is 37.g3 a waiting move to force things? Or does it serve a particular purpose?
Cheers

Igor_Goldenberg
30-10-2008, 10:08 AM
Hi Igor
is 37.g3 a waiting move to force things? Or does it serve a particular purpose?
Cheers
37.Rxe5 Qa1+ 38.Kh2 Qxe5+ (with perpetual).
37.g3 prevents a check from e5, and I don't see a defence against 38.Rxe5

ER
30-10-2008, 10:34 AM
37.Rxe5 Qa1+ 38.Kh2 Qxe5+ (with perpetual).
37.g3 prevents a check from e5, and I don't see a defence against 38.Rxe5

Far out! thanks mate! well you re not a Master for nothing, I really appreciate your analytical note!
Cheers and good luck!

PS Congratulations for (once again) winning the Vic Championship!:clap: :clap: :clap:
PSS Get answers ready for an interview for the AN INTERVIEW thread!

ER
30-10-2008, 10:41 AM
When I saw Guy's 2.f4 in the game vs Leonid, I almost felt the "c'mon let's play Chess!" approach of the champion player! Inspirational stuff for all young players!
I think that is a great example of how to regain form; by force!!!
CAGLES

Igor_Goldenberg
30-10-2008, 10:43 AM
PS Congratulations for (once again) winning the Vic Championship!:clap: :clap: :clap:


It is not finished yet (and neither it is decided), so the congratulation is premature.

MichaelBaron
30-10-2008, 10:50 AM
When I saw Guy's 2.f4 in the game vs Leonid, I almost felt the "c'mon let's play Chess!" approach of the champion player! Inspirational stuff for all young players!
I think that is a great example of how to regain form; by force!!!
CAGLES

Tasso, when you see 2.Nf3 what do you feel? and how about 2.c3 - any feelings towards this modest, yet tricky move?:D

I think Guy played very good positional chess in this game. One strong move that is particularly worthy of noting is f5! Generally, it is bad to allow black knight to come to e5 in sicilian, but in that particular position, f5 secured complete contol over the white squares and that was more than sufficient compensation.
Therefore, what we can learn from this game is that to be a strong player - one needs to be able to think "out of the box".

Elwood Bendigo
30-10-2008, 11:35 AM
After 36... Ra8 (to prevent 37.Qe8) I did not find a defence for black after 37.g3 (threatening 38.Rxe5)
why does he need to play 37. g3, cant he just wait for this move when white plays 37. rxe5 , Qa1+, kh2, qxe5+ 39. g3- I dont see the perpetual- am I wrong here

Igor_Goldenberg
30-10-2008, 05:16 PM
why does he need to play 37. g3, cant he just wait for this move when white plays 37. rxe5 , Qa1+, kh2, qxe5+ 39. g3- I dont see the perpetual- am I wrong here
I think you are right. Black must've played 36...Rc7 to prevent this line

ER
30-10-2008, 06:29 PM
Tasso, when you see 2.Nf3 what do you feel? and how about 2.c3 - any feelings towards this modest, yet tricky move?:D

I think Guy played very good positional chess in this game. One strong move that is particularly worthy of noting is f5! Generally, it is bad to allow black knight to come to e5 in sicilian, but in that particular position, f5 secured complete contol over the white squares and that was more than sufficient compensation.
Therefore, what we can learn from this game is that to be a strong player - one needs to be able to think "out of the box".

Hi Michael,
First of all thanks for the always welcome and invaluabe advice. No, I have nothing against the other moves you are suggesting and I do not imply that Guy is not a strong positional player as much as he is a fine tactician.
What I expessed in those exclamatory and praising notes for Guy's 2.f4 were my feelings of admiration for a player who, not in his best form, decides on an extremely aggressive opening against an equally strong opponent indicating that "I am playing for a win here and I am attacking from the first two moves"!
Nothing wrong, with other less aggressive, more positional alternatives!
However, do not forget that most of the club players like myself follow the performances of strong players with interest and some sort of football fun attitude.
So after my failed expectations of heavy artlillery tactical play in the Victorian archrivals West and Levi derby followed by quiet booing from the stands, it was my time to go bonkers with enthusiasm, seeing Guy's reversal of form and attitude in his games vs Mirko and Leonid!
I hope Mirko does something about his form as well! Maybe Guy presented him with a good example of how to do it!
CAGLES

Spiny Norman
31-10-2008, 06:05 AM
... when you see 2.Nf3 what do you feel? and how about 2.c3 - any feelings towards this modest, yet tricky move?:D
I thought I'd weigh in on that thought and display the breadth of my ignorance in such esteemed company. I've played plenty of 2.c3 Sicilians as White in the past couple of years, and while I think its objectively not the best move (I think 2.Nf3 holds that title), the c3-Sicilian has some really good points to it.

For starters, Black's 1...c5 seeks to exchange the c-pawn for a central d-pawn of White's. 2.c3 in effect says "I challenge the whole concept of the Sicilian" because, if Black plays dxc4, White has cxd4, maintaining his center. The c3-Sicilian can often lead to IQP positions, which the White player might feel more comfortable with if s/he has studied and played them enough (I haven't yet, but I am working on it) and perhaps especially so if White prefers thoughtful positional play.

The main disadvantage seems to be that White can no longer place a knight on c3 early on, which is its natural square.

2.f4 strikes me as one of the most aggressive responses to the Sicilian, in that it controls the e5 square early on and supports either an e5- or f5-push later. But I don't know much about the 2.f4 system/plans, as I've never played it myself, and I have only faced it once in a real game (which I lost).

WhiteElephant
31-10-2008, 08:52 AM
What I expessed in those exclamatory and praising notes for Guy's 2.f4 were my feelings of admiration for a player who, not in his best form, decides on an extremely aggressive opening against an equally strong opponent indicating that "I am playing for a win here and I am attacking from the first two moves"!

I've seen Guy play the Grand Prix attack a fair bit against the Sicilian so it might have been a case of selecting an opening he knows well.

WhiteElephant
31-10-2008, 08:56 AM
Tasso, when you see 2.Nf3 what do you feel? and how about 2.c3 - any feelings towards this modest, yet tricky move?:D

I don't like having the Siclian played against me, especially by people who have memorised every line 15 moves deep. Lately I have been going for a closed Sicilian with pawns on c3, d3 & e4. Seems to annoy the Sicilian players right back :D

MichaelBaron
31-10-2008, 10:08 AM
I don't like having the Siclian played against me, especially by people who have memorised every line 15 moves deep. Lately I have been going for a closed Sicilian with pawns on c3, d3 & e4. Seems to annoy the Sicilian players right back :D


I agree with WE - too much theory in the sicilian. One problem with the c3,d3,e4 set up though - you have to be prepared for black to get d5 and e5 in..and transpose into King's indian defence kind of position with reversed colours

Leonid Sandler
31-10-2008, 08:36 PM
With two more playing session left here is the current standing
1.I.Goldenberg 6,5 points from 8 games (+5)
2 E.Levi 6 points from 9 games(+3)
3.G.West 5 points from 8 games(+2)
4-6 D.Hacche,D.Hamilton and M.Rujevic 5 points from 9 games each (+1)
7. L.Sandler 4 points from 9 games(-1)
8.M.Pyke 3,5 points from 9 games(-2)
9.D.Stojic 3 points from 8 games (-2)
10.D.Dragicevic 2,5 points from 8 games(-3)
11.A.Pecori 1,5 points from 8 games (-5)
As you can see in top half of the field only one relative youngster Igor Goldenberg (who is 39 years old!) all other players are 50 plus and in case of Hamilton and Rujevic 60 plus.New generation have to wait a bit longer!

The remaining games are

November 8th

Elwood Chess Club
Goldenberg-West
Dragicevic-Levi
D.Stojic-Pecori

November 9th

National Gallery of Victoria
Sandler-Goldenberg
West-Pyke
Rujevic-Pecori
Dargicevic-Hacche
Hamilton-D.Stojic


Reserves Tournament standings
1.P.Skiotis 9 points from 10 games(+8)
2.D.Lindberg 6,5 points from 9 games(+4)
3.N.Stirling 6 points from 9 games(+3)
4.C.Gorka 5,5 points from 9 games(+2)
5-6 V.Kildisas and L.Kempen 5 points from 10 games each
7.O.Bashar 4,5 poits from 9 games
8.S.Stojic 4 points from 10 games(-2)
9.E.Tionko 3,5 points from 9 games(-2)
10.N.Szuveges 3 points from 9 games(-3)
11.S.Anton 2 points from 8 games (-4)
12.N.Ivanov 2 points from 10 games(-6)

The remaining games are
November 8th

Ivanov-Tionko
Kildisas-Anton
Gorka-Szuveges
Bashar-Lindberg

November 9th
S.Stojic-Anton
Skiotis-Szuveges
Stirling-Kempen
Lindberg-Gorka
Bashar-Tionko

Postponed game Stirling-Anton will be played in MCC next week

Carl Gorka
06-11-2008, 11:01 PM
A big thankyou to Narelle Szuveges for allowing a rearrangement of our game due to be played this Saturday, I will be moving over the weekend and really could do with one whole free day.

We played tonight at the MCC, the result, Gorka-Szuveges 1-0.

Thanks again, Narelle:clap:

Watto
08-11-2008, 07:26 PM
Goldenberg-West 0-1
Dragicevic-Levi 0-1
D.Stojic-Pecori. This game was still going when I left so I don't know the result.

Metro
08-11-2008, 08:29 PM
Goldenberg-West 0-1
Dragicevic-Levi 0-1
D.Stojic-Pecori. This game was still going when I left so I don't know the result.

By my reckoning,Levi is 7/10
Goldenberg 6.5/9
West 6/9

Leonid Sandler
08-11-2008, 08:34 PM
D.Stojic-Pecori 1-0
Last round tomorrow Sunday November 9th at National Gallery of Victoria(St.Kilda Rd,Melbourne)
Starting time 12-00 noon.Spectators welcome!

West-Pyke
Sandler-Goldenberg
Stojic-Hamilton
Dragicevic-Hacche
Rujevic-Pecori

Here are the current standing
1.E.Levi 7 points from 10 games(Eddi played all 10 games and will be very interested spectator)
2.I Goldenberg 6,5 points
3.G.West 6 points
4-6 D.Hamilton,D.Hacche,M.Rujevic 5 points each
7-8 L.Sandler,D.Stojic 4 points each
9.M.Pyke 3,5 points
10.D.Dragicevic 2,5 points
11.A.Pecori 1,5 points

Reserves tournament todays results are as follows
Kildisas-Anton draw
Ivanov-Tionko 0-1
Bashar-Lindberg 1-0

Before the last round
1.P.Skiotis 9 points from 10 games
2.N.Stirling 7 points
3-4 C.Gorka,D.Lindberg 6,5 points each
5.O.Bashar 5,5 points
6.V.Kildisas 5,5 points from 11 games(Victor has completed the event)
7.L.Kempen 5 points
8.E.Tionko 4,5 points
9.S.Stojic 4 points
10.N.Szuveges 3 points
11.S.Anton 2,5 points
12.N.Ivanov 2 points from 11 games(Nick has completed the event)

Last round pairings
S.Stojic-Anton
Bashar-Tionko
Skiotis-Szuveges
Stirling-Kempen
Lindberg-Gorka

MichaelBaron
09-11-2008, 12:15 AM
Wow, I was under the impression that the state title was in Igor's pocket already. However, now the tournament outcome is unclear once again. My money is still on Igor, but possibly after yet another play-off:doh:

ER
09-11-2008, 01:30 AM
Wow, I was under the impression that the state title was in Igor's pocket already. However, now the tournament outcome is unclear once again. My money is still on Igor, but possibly after yet another play-off:doh:

I was under the same impression too... I even congratulated Igor and he told me "nonsense, nothing has finished, too premature to consider me a winner of this tournament!" This shows his maturity, and also proves what a great force IM Guy West is!
We are talking about one of the most interesting finals in the history of Vic Championship!

Cheers and good luck!

Spiny Norman
09-11-2008, 07:01 AM
Goldenberg-West 0-1
Hope you're serving him up bacon and eggs in bed this morning Watto ... awesome effort by Guy ... the race is wide open again!

Watto
09-11-2008, 07:27 AM
Hope you're serving him up bacon and eggs in bed this morning Watto ... awesome effort by Guy ... the race is wide open again!
Bacon and eggs... yum. Yes, it was a really nice game by Guy yesterday. After his horrible start to the tournament he really had nothing to lose and just had to play for wins every game which seems to have suited him. Apart from Igor of course who clearly set the pace, it's been a great tournament by Eddy as well. Should be interesting spectating at the NGV today...

Metro
09-11-2008, 02:18 PM
Bacon and eggs... yum. Yes, it was a really nice game by Guy yesterday. After his horrible start to the tournament he really had nothing to lose and just had to play for wins every game which seems to have suited him. Apart from Igor of course who clearly set the pace, it's been a great tournament by Eddy as well. Should be interesting spectating at the NGV today...
I wonder, what are the provisions for a 3- way tie (double-round robin)?:P

eclectic
09-11-2008, 02:43 PM
I wonder, what are the provisions for a 3- way tie (double-round robin)?:P

a countback system is used to decide the last two standing and then they play off for the title

Igor_Goldenberg
09-11-2008, 04:22 PM
I know bragging is not a virtue, but I am so happy about the result that I can't help myself.

Sandler-Goldenberg 0-1
West-Pyke 1-0
Stojic-Hamilton 1/2
Dragicevic-Hacche 1/2
Rujeic-Pecori 1/2

Kevin Bonham
09-11-2008, 04:41 PM
I know bragging is not a virtue, but I am so happy about the result that I can't help myself.

As well you should be if you defeat Sandler with the black pieces under pressure in the final round to win the event. Congratulations. :clap:

Metro
09-11-2008, 04:54 PM
As well you should be if you defeat Sandler with the black pieces under pressure in the final round to win the event. Congratulations. :clap:

Top effort,Igor:clap: :clap: :clap:
Special mention of Guy after being 0.5/3:clap: and Eddy Levi:clap:

Axiom
09-11-2008, 06:02 PM
Igor , as perhaps the closest to my political views of all members here , i give you a special salute of congratulations.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

bobby1972
09-11-2008, 06:11 PM
well played igor.well i for one am also happy ,happy that its over that is.winless tournaments aren`t fun,man how do real chess players handle this you know when i see some gm turnys and some gm gets like 2 draws :wall:

eclectic
09-11-2008, 06:17 PM
any pics from today?

ER
09-11-2008, 06:26 PM
Hi Igor
ok to congratulate you now, or you going to tell me off again????
I 'll do it anyway :clap: :clap: :clap:
Good on you mate you are a champions amongst champions!
CAGLES

eclectic
09-11-2008, 06:28 PM
Hi Igor
ok to congratulate you now, or you going to tell me off again????
I 'll do it anyway :clap: :clap: :clap:
Good on you mate you are a champions amongst champions!
CAGLES

take him out for a beer, JaK

of course it will be your SHOUT!!

:owned:

;)

MichaelBaron
09-11-2008, 07:11 PM
Congratulations to Igor on his victory :clap:

Also, congratulations to Guy and Eddie on their strong performances.

Gattaca
09-11-2008, 09:50 PM
Thanks, Michael, Spiny and Met.

A disappointing finish today for Eddy and myself, as Leonid had an equal ending (at the start) and a 3 way tie looked very likely.

According to Igor he would have been eliminated from the playoff under some tiebreaking system that was being used. I've spoken to Eddy and we were both in agreement that we would have refused to play a match without Igor in it, as tiebreaks in Round Robins are ridiculous and arbitrary. I have long campaigned against such stupidity. Maybe Eddy and I would have been disqualified for refusing to play and the 'next in line' person declared champion... leaving Igor as champ anyway? :)

I'm really happy for Igor, winning the event. He led throughout and kept his nerve in the last round. Don't underestimate the pressure that builds up when you are leading an important tournament and fast finishing players are coming at you. Igor only narrowly missed out on Olympiad selection this year and hopefully national representation and an IM title will come his way before too long.

Although disappointed that winning 6 in a row wasn't enough after my 1/4 start, I was consoled not just by the comeback but by playing three of my best all out attacking games in the last three rounds, and really enjoyed the tournament from a creative perspective.

Basil
09-11-2008, 09:55 PM
Good work all 'round, men :clap:

ER
09-11-2008, 10:18 PM
... I've spoken to Eddy and we were both in agreement that we would have refused to play a match without Igor in it, ...

Pure Class!!! :clap:

Igor_Goldenberg
10-11-2008, 08:19 AM
I've spoken to Eddy and we were both in agreement that we would have refused to play a match without Igor in it, as tiebreaks in Round Robins are ridiculous and arbitrary.

That's very noble of you and Eddy, I really appreciate the spirit. However, the law is the law and I knew I'd be last on tie-break. That was the only reason I tried to squeeze something out of almost equal (minuscule advantage) endgame against very strong opponent. Fortunately luck was on my side as Leonid made two mistakes in a row (the second one was probably decisive).

Finishing streak by Eddy Levi (three wins by black) and Guy West (six wins in a row, including Rujevic, Sandler and myself) were very impressive.

I'd like to thank everyone for the congratulations and warm wishes.

Adamski
10-11-2008, 09:33 AM
Congratulations, Igor. Well done mate!

Leonid Sandler
10-11-2008, 10:29 AM
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