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Kings of chess
10-04-2008, 10:06 PM
Surfers Paradise Open 2008

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Hi to all ,

Coming up soon: 2008 "Surfers Paradise Open to World" chess tournament.
Tan Myer Grand Prix 5 category

When: 30/31 August 2008
Where: Broadbeach SLSC same as last Year

1st prize $2000
Juniors under 1200 or 1000 is going to be decided but 1st prize > Playstation 3 worth $700

For more information follow our website: www.kingsofchess.biz

see you there

Shark93
20-04-2008, 08:40 PM
Looking forward to it, I will play the open division this year so its more of an experience :), and I tend to play badly when faced with low rated opposistion cause I get lazy and don't try :(.

Garvinator
20-04-2008, 08:48 PM
Looking forward to it, I will play the open division this year so its more of an experience :), and I tend to play badly when faced with low rated opposistion cause I get lazy and don't try :(.
I do not think you would get any low rated opposition if you played in the Under 1600 Division. You would also get a lot of players rated about 1300-1400 acf, which will provide plenty of challenges over 7 rounds.

If you play in the top division (the open), you will get almost all games with players rated over 1600.

Last year the lowest rated player faced a field of:

1868, 1654, 1695, 1761, 1333, 1668 and 1430.

Capablanca-Fan
21-04-2008, 09:26 AM
Can't find the round times. But a word of advice: most of the top chessplayers have been night-owls who detest early mornings. The same seems to be true of Australian chessplayers, at least according to one of the most one-sided polls ever on this site (http://chesschat.org/showthread.php?t=7538). A registration at 8.30-9.15AM, as at Broadbeach, is more likely to repel such people, and more so if they live far from the Gold Coast.

Kings of chess
06-06-2008, 06:56 PM
Can't find the round times. But a word of advice: most of the top chessplayers have been night-owls who detest early mornings. The same seems to be true of Australian chessplayers, at least according to one of the most one-sided polls ever on this site (http://chesschat.org/showthread.php?t=7538). A registration at 8.30-9.15AM, as at Broadbeach, is more likely to repel such people, and more so if they live far from the Gold Coast.

SURFERS PARADISE OPEN
2008 CHESS TOURNAMENT
Surf the chess board!
Excellent air-conditioned venue, where you can stay, dine and play chess. Have a fantastic weekend playing chess on the Gold Coast - the tourist capital of Australia.
$2000 First Prize 2008 Myer Tan Grand Prix Class 5
At Quality Hotels Mermaid Waters
Cnr Markeri Street and Sunshine Boulevard
Mermaid Waters, Gold Coast, QLD 4218
T: (0061) 75572 2500 F: (0061) 75572 9787
To book a room quote reference No. #63224
E: functions.mwhotel@alhgroup.com.au
W: www.mermaidwatershotel.com.au
PARADISE SECTION (FIDE-rated, 3 days)
Open to everyone to enter:
Friday 29 ( Gold Coast Show day as a Public Holiday) Saturday, 30 and Sunday, 31 August 2008
SESSION TIMES:
Friday: Registration 8.30-9.15AM,
Rd1 9.30AM, Rd 2 2.30 PM
Saturday: Rd 3 9.30AM, Rd 4 2.30 PM
Sunday: Rd 5 9.30AM, Rd 6 2.30 PM
Presentation 6.30PM
ENTRY FEE: $ 90 (Grandmasters free entry)
FORMAT: Six-round Swiss
TIME CONTROLS: 90 min + 30 sec per move
PRIZES: First $2000, Second $1000, Third $500,
Fourth $200, Fifth $100, Brilliancy prize $200
SURFING SECTION ( ACF-rated, 2 days)
Restricted to players rated under 2000
Saturday, 30 August – Sunday, 31 August
SESSION TIMES:
Saturday: Registration 8.30-9.15AM,
Rd1 9.30AM, Rd 2 12.00PM, Rd 3 2.30 PM
Sunday: Rd 4 9.30AM, Rd 5 12.00PM,
Rd 6 2.30 PM, Presentation 5.00PM
ENTRY FEE: $ 60
FORMAT: Six-round Swiss
TIME CONTROLS: 60 min + 10 sec per move
PRIZES: 1st $500, 2nd $200, 3rd $100,
Under 1600: 1st $200, 2nd $100, 3rd $50, Under 1100 Junior: Wii Game Console, Runners up: medals
Under 1100 Adult: $100.00, Runners up : medals
Under 700 Junior: Mobile phone, Runners up: medals
FUN SECTION ( 1 day)
For beginners and parents. Restricted to unrated players.
No clock, no recording of moves.
Saturday, 30 August
SESSION TIMES: same as “Surfing” section
ENTRY FEE: $ 30 1st Prize: $100 Runners up: medals
Information on this form are subject to change
REGISTRATION CLOSES ON 20 August 2008.
Please note: Tournament details are subject to change.
ENTRY FORM
Name: ___________________________________
Address:__________________________________
_________________________________________
Phone: _____________ D.O.B.:____________
Status: _____________ Rating:____________
(Adult / Junior)
Email:____________________________________
Section entering: Paradise / Surfing / Fun
(Please circle one) (Open) (U2000) (Unrated)
Entries and payments closing on Monday, 25 August 2008. Venue capacity limited to 120 players.
Players who fail to register in person 8:30am - 9:15am on the day will be given a half point bye for round one.
Note: Entrants must be current CAQ members;
non-members or lapsed members may join with this entry.
Entry fee payable: $ _______________________________
(including CAQ membership fee of $10, if applicable)
Signature:________________________________________
Post with fee to: Kings of Chess, PO Box 5253,
Q Super Centre, Mermaid Waters Q 4218, Australia
Direct bank deposit to: Kings of chess, ANZ Bank,
SWIFT code: ANZBAU3M, BSB: 014 688,
Acc. Number: 4895 63975. Quote player’s name as reference.
For credit card payments ring us or please fax details to:
Fax. (0061) 07 5578 6171
Enquiries: (0061) 07 5578 5872 Mob (0061) 0414 673 228
Email: info@kingsofchess.biz Web: www.kingsofchess.biz

Kings of chess
12-06-2008, 07:46 PM
SURFERS PARADISE OPEN
2008 CHESS TOURNAMENT
Surf the chess board!
Excellent air-conditioned venue, where you can stay, dine and play chess. Have a fantastic weekend playing chess on the Gold Coast - the tourist capital of Australia.
$2000 First Prize 2008 Myer Tan Grand Prix Class 5
At Quality Hotels Mermaid Waters
Cnr Markeri Street and Sunshine Boulevard
Mermaid Waters, Gold Coast, QLD 4218
T: (0061) 75572 2500 F: (0061) 75572 9787
To book a room quote reference No. #63224. Great prices for groups up to 4 people from $50 or ideal for Family from $164.00 per night
E: functions.mwhotel@alhgroup.com.au
W: www.mermaidwatershotel.com.au

Kings of chess
12-06-2008, 10:12 PM
SURFERS PARADISE OPEN
2008 CHESS TOURNAMENT
Surf the chess board!
Excellent air-conditioned venue, where you can stay, dine and play chess. Have a fantastic weekend playing chess on the Gold Coast - the tourist capital of Australia.
$2000 First Prize 2008 Myer Tan Grand Prix Class 5
At Quality Hotels Mermaid Waters
Cnr Markeri Street and Sunshine Boulevard
Mermaid Waters, Gold Coast, QLD 4218
T: (0061) 75572 2500 F: (0061) 75572 9787
To book a room quote reference No. #63224. Great prices for groups up to 4 people from $50 or ideal for Family from $164.00 per night
E: functions.mwhotel@alhgroup.com.au
W: www.mermaidwatershotel.com.au

Surfers Paradise Open with live games transmitting by MONROI.
See as example some of suprise games from NSW OPEN 2008 (http://www.kingsofchess.biz/links1.html)

Kings of chess
18-06-2008, 01:09 PM
SURFERS PARADISE OPEN
2008 CHESS TOURNAMENT
Surf the chess board!
Excellent air-conditioned venue, where you can stay, dine and play chess. Have a fantastic weekend playing chess on the Gold Coast - the tourist capital of Australia.
$2000 First Prize 2008 Myer Tan Grand Prix Class 5
At Quality Hotels Mermaid Waters
Cnr Markeri Street and Sunshine Boulevard
Mermaid Waters, Gold Coast, QLD 4218
T: (0061) 75572 2500 F: (0061) 75572 9787
To book a room quote reference No. #63224
E: functions.mwhotel@alhgroup.com.au
W: www.mermaidwatershotel.com.au
PARADISE SECTION (FIDE-rated, 3 days)
Open to everyone to enter:
Friday 29 ( Gold Coast Show day as a Public Holiday) Saturday, 30 and Sunday, 31 August 2008
SESSION TIMES:
Friday: Registration 8.30-9.15AM,
Rd1 9.30AM, Rd 2 2.30 PM
Saturday: Rd 3 9.30AM, Rd 4 2.30 PM
Sunday: Rd 5 9.30AM, Rd 6 2.30 PM
Presentation 6.30PM
ENTRY FEE: $ 90 (Grandmasters free entry)
FORMAT: Six-round Swiss
TIME CONTROLS: 90 min + 30 sec per move
PRIZES: First $2000, Second $1000, Third $500,
Fourth $200, Fifth $100, Brilliancy prize $200
SURFING SECTION ( ACF-rated, 2 days)
Restricted to players rated under 2000
Saturday, 30 August – Sunday, 31 August
SESSION TIMES:
Saturday: Registration 8.30-9.15AM,
Rd1 9.30AM, Rd 2 12.00PM, Rd 3 2.30 PM
Sunday: Rd 4 9.30AM, Rd 5 12.00PM,
Rd 6 2.30 PM, Presentation 5.00PM
ENTRY FEE: $ 60
FORMAT: Six-round Swiss
TIME CONTROLS: 60 min + 10 sec per move
PRIZES: 1st $500, 2nd $200, 3rd $100,
Under 1600: 1st $200, 2nd $100, 3rd $50, Under 1100 Junior: Wii Game Console, Runners up: medals
Under 1100 Adult: $100.00, Runners up : medals
Under 700 Junior: Mobile phone, Runners up: medals
FUN SECTION ( 1 day)
For beginners and parents. Restricted to unrated players.
No clock, no recording of moves.
Saturday, 30 August
SESSION TIMES: same as “Surfing” section
ENTRY FEE: $ 30 1st Prize: $100 Runners up: medals
Information on this form are subject to change
REGISTRATION CLOSES ON 20 August 2008.
Please note: Tournament details are subject to change.
ENTRY FORM
Name: ___________________________________
Address:__________________________________
_________________________________________
Phone: _____________ D.O.B.:____________
Status: _____________ Rating:____________
(Adult / Junior)
Email:____________________________________
Section entering: Paradise / Surfing / Fun
(Please circle one) (Open) (U2000) (Unrated)
Entries and payments closing on Monday, 25 August 2008. Venue capacity limited to 120 players.
Players who fail to register in person 8:30am - 9:15am on the day will be given a half point bye for round one.
Note: Entrants must be current CAQ members;
non-members or lapsed members may join with this entry.
Entry fee payable: $ _______________________________
(including CAQ membership fee of $10, if applicable)
Signature:________________________________________
Post with fee to: Kings of Chess, PO Box 5253,
Q Super Centre, Mermaid Waters Q 4218, Australia
Direct bank deposit to: Kings of chess, ANZ Bank,
SWIFT code: ANZBAU3M, BSB: 014 688,
Acc. Number: 4895 63975. Quote player’s name as reference.
For credit card payments ring us or please fax details to:
Fax. (0061) 07 5578 6171
Enquiries: (0061) 07 5578 5872 Mob (0061) 0414 673 228
Email: info@kingsofchess.biz Web: www.kingsofchess.biz
Surfers Paradise Open 2008 chess tournament

On Friday 29, 30 and 31 August 2008, see entry form attached to this email!

Myer Tan Grand Prix tournament 5th Class




GM Alexei Shirov (Fide 2740)



Breaking News:



We are delighted to announce that Super Grandmaster Alexei Shirov, one of the best players in the world, is a Brilliancy Prize Judge for the Surfers Paradise Open chess tournament 2008.

Mr Shirov will be available to choose the Brilliancy Prize winner in September 2008.

We would like to express our sincere gratitude and appreciation to Mr Shirov.

Kings of chess
27-06-2008, 01:16 AM
Surfers Paradise Open 2008 chess tournament

On Friday 29, 30 and 31 August 2008, see entry form attached to this email!

Myer Tan Grand Prix tournament 5th Class




GM Alexei Shirov (Fide 2740)



Breaking News:



We are delighted to announce that Super Grandmaster Alexei Shirov, one of the best players in the world, is a Brilliancy Prize Judge for the Surfers Paradise Open chess tournament 2008.

Mr Shirov will be available to choose the Brilliancy Prize winner in September 2008.

We would like to express our sincere gratitude and appreciation to Mr Shirov.

Please Note: Under 700 rating Juniors 1st prize going to be NINTENDO DS game console

Vlad
27-06-2008, 02:54 PM
Juniors under 1200 or 1000 is going to be decided but 1st prize > Playstation 3 worth $700


Who is eligible for this playstation? All juniors or only juniors under 1000/1200?
Thanks in advance.

Vlad
27-06-2008, 03:18 PM
Ok, I have found the answer in the brochure. It is only for juniors under 1100.

I find it is a very surprising way of designing tournament prizes. The first prize in the under 2000 section is 500, while the first prize for under 1100 juniors is 700. What about stronger juniors? Do not stronger kids like to play games too? Or maybe organizers do not want to distract them from studying chess? What a nice thinking about them.:)

What is the maximum prize a junior rated 1100+ can get in this tournament? My understanding it is 500 only. Why a 17 year-old rated 1099 is eligible for the most attractive junior prize while a 7 year-old rated 1100+ is not? Why do organizers effectively provide incentives only for relatively weak juniors to play in this event?

Desmond
27-06-2008, 03:59 PM
Ok, I have found the answer in the brochure. It is only for juniors under 1100.

I find it is a very surprising way of designing tournament prizes. The first prize in the under 2000 section is 500, while the first prize for under 1100 juniors is 700. What about stronger juniors? Do not stronger kids like to play games too? Or maybe organizers do not want to distract them from studying chess? What a nice thinking about them.:)

What is the maximum prize a junior rated 1100+ can get in this tournament? My understanding it is 500 only. Why a 17 year-old rated 1099 is eligible for the most attractive junior prize while a 7 year-old rated 1100+ is not? Why do organizers effectively provide incentives only for relatively weak juniors to play in this event?I guess the point of it is to make a prize for the weaker kids. Make it open to all under 18s and some 2200+ kid will win it. They win good prizes regularly anyway.

Vlad
27-06-2008, 04:06 PM
I guess the point of it is to make a prize for the weaker kids. Make it open to all under 18s and some 2200+ kid will win it. They win good prizes regularly anyway.

What you are saying makes sense and I am not against giving rating prizes in general. What I am against is giving a very attractive prize to weaker kids and giving nothing to stronger kids. It is like making a A$1000 prize for the first in the open section and A$5000 for the first in the under 2000 section. It does not happen, does it? I am sure it will be a great way to attract entries but it will destroy the whole idea of improvement and you will see many people trying to make their rating smaller.

Shark93
27-06-2008, 04:29 PM
Who is eligible for this playstation? All juniors or only juniors under 1000/1200?
Thanks in advance.

You should not be worrying about the $700 playstation anyway. Its not there anymore he sneakily replaced it with this.
Under 1100 Junior: Wii Game Console, Runners up: medals

A Wii is only worth $100.

Vlad
27-06-2008, 04:41 PM
Thanks for that. Apparently it is a slightly different issue.:)

Do not they want to run this tournament in the future? What happens if they attract kids who have read the original advertisement and who then would be given much lesser prize?

George Xie
27-06-2008, 06:19 PM
SURFERS PARADISE OPEN
ENTRY FEE: $ 90 (Grandmasters free entry)


What about IM? Does IM get free entry as well?

eclectic
27-06-2008, 06:21 PM
SURFERS PARADISE OPEN
ENTRY FEE: $ 90 (Grandmasters free entry)

What about IM? Does IM get free entry as well?

traditionally they do

ps in fact i do believe it is part of acf policy

George Xie
27-06-2008, 06:46 PM
traditionally they do

ps in fact i do believe it is part of acf policy

I thought that IM deserves a free entry as well. However, the guy in the video (www.kingsofchess.biz) makes me doubt about the free entry….

Kings of chess
27-06-2008, 07:00 PM
SURFERS PARADISE OPEN
ENTRY FEE: $ 90 (Grandmasters free entry)


What about IM? Does IM get free entry as well?
Hi George,
IMs do have free entry, same as last Year.
An official invitation for you and other International masters in Australia is in process.

Amir

Kings of chess
27-06-2008, 07:02 PM
Who is eligible for this playstation? All juniors or only juniors under 1000/1200?
Thanks in advance.
Prize under 1100 rating is for all Juniors under described rating.
Even Junior with 500 rating can win first prize.

Kings of chess
27-06-2008, 07:06 PM
You should not be worrying about the $700 playstation anyway. Its not there anymore he sneakily replaced it with this.

A Wii is only worth $100.
Wii game console is not worth only $100.
if you win you going to get Wii game console + Wii fit.
I think all together worth around $500-600.
Popularity of Wii console has increased in the last 3-4 months ( if you compare with Playstation 3).
This is not my decision it is Ebay games decision.

Kings of chess
27-06-2008, 07:08 PM
Ok, I have found the answer in the brochure. It is only for juniors under 1100.

I find it is a very surprising way of designing tournament prizes. The first prize in the under 2000 section is 500, while the first prize for under 1100 juniors is 700. What about stronger juniors? Do not stronger kids like to play games too? Or maybe organizers do not want to distract them from studying chess? What a nice thinking about them.:)

What is the maximum prize a junior rated 1100+ can get in this tournament? My understanding it is 500 only. Why a 17 year-old rated 1099 is eligible for the most attractive junior prize while a 7 year-old rated 1100+ is not? Why do organizers effectively provide incentives only for relatively weak juniors to play in this event?

Some Juniors like GM Dejan Antic started to play chess with 14 Year age.
Our policy is: if we involve more Juniors to play in the tournament, chess is becoming more popular and we getting easier way to find Sponsors, what means that Surfers Paradise Open 2009 going to have much better prizes for everyone.

Capablanca-Fan
27-06-2008, 07:15 PM
I thought that IM deserves a free entry as well.
I agree. It should be up to the organizers rather than imposed from on high, but it would certainly be in the tournament's best interest to encourage strong players to play.

Capablanca-Fan
27-06-2008, 07:16 PM
What you are saying makes sense and I am not against giving rating prizes in general. What I am against is giving a very attractive prize to weaker kids and giving nothing to stronger kids. It is like making a A$1000 prize for the first in the open section and A$5000 for the first in the under 2000 section. It does not happen, does it? I am sure it will be a great way to attract entries but it will destroy the whole idea of improvement and you will see many people trying to make their rating smaller.
It does seem anomalous.

Kings of chess
27-06-2008, 11:46 PM
I agree. It should be up to the organizers rather than imposed from on high, but it would certainly be in the tournament's best interest to encourage strong players to play.

Even on the entry form stands that only Grandmasters have free entry, we have created invitations to Grandmasters and International masters ( of course with free entry offer ).
It is very hard to put everything on the entry form and unfortunately make everyone happy. Therefore we did put notice on the form: This form is a subject to change, what means that, to example, if we receive bigger sponsorship amount, prizes going to increase.

If you follow our website: www.kingsofchess.biz, it is written that Grandmasters, International masters and players over 2400 have free entry.

Kevin Bonham
28-06-2008, 12:09 AM
[COLOR="Red"][B][SIZE="3"][SIZE="4"]We are delighted to announce that Super Grandmaster Alexei Shirov, one of the best players in the world, is a Brilliancy Prize Judge for the Surfers Paradise Open chess tournament 2008.

Impressive; how did you manage that?

Having one's game judged brilliant by Shirov is certainly something for entrants to aspire to!

Kings of chess
28-06-2008, 06:50 AM
Impressive; how did you manage that?

Having one's game judged brilliant by Shirov is certainly something for entrants to aspire to!

Thanks Kevin.
GM Shirov is a very nice person and gentlmen.

Kings of chess
02-07-2008, 09:33 PM
Surfers Paradise Open 2008 chess tournament

On Friday 29, 30 and 31 August 2008, see entry form attached to this email!

Myer Tan Grand Prix tournament 5th Class




GM Alexei Shirov (Fide 2740)



Breaking News:



We are delighted to announce that Super Grandmaster Alexei Shirov, one of the best players in the world, is a Brilliancy Prize Judge for the Surfers Paradise Open chess tournament 2008.

Mr Shirov will be available to choose the Brilliancy Prize winner in September 2008.

We would like to express our sincere gratitude and appreciation to Mr Shirov.

Surfers Paradise Open 2008

More info at: www.kingsofchess.biz

Top players:
1. GM Dejan Antic FIDE 2482 Serbia
2. IM Stephen Solomon FIDE 2478 AUS
3. IM David Smerdon FIDE 2461 AUS
4. GM Darryl Johansen FIDE 2452 AUS
5. GM Shoojat Ghane FIDE 2415 Iran
6. IM Peter Froehlich FIDE 2362 GER
7. Moulthun Ly FIDE 2340 AUS
8. FM Jesse Sales FIDE 2330 PHI
9. FM Gene Nakauchi FIDE 2093 AUS

Chief Arbiter: International Arbiter / Charles Zworestine

black
03-07-2008, 04:06 AM
On the entry form pdf...

"Friday, Saturday, and Sunday."

PARADISE SECTION (FIDE-rated, 3 days)
Open to everyone to enter
Friday, 29 August (Gold Coast Show Day as a Public Holiday) Saturday, 30 and Sunday, 31 August 2008

But then...

"Saturday, Sunday, and Monday."

SESSION TIMES:
Saturday: Registration 8.30-9.15AM,
Rd1 9.30AM, Rd 2 2.30 PM
Sunday: Rd 3 9.30AM, Rd 4 2.30 PM
Monday: Rd 5 9.30AM, Rd 6 2.30 PM

Have I misunderstood?
Should the latter part be Friday through Sunday?

Kings of chess
03-07-2008, 07:14 AM
On the entry form pdf...

"Friday, Saturday, and Sunday."


But then...

"Saturday, Sunday, and Monday."


Have I misunderstood?
Should the latter part be Friday through Sunday?

It is Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Mistake is on the black/white pdf form but colour one is OK. We have to correct it.
Thanks

Kings of chess
03-07-2008, 11:05 PM
What about IM? Does IM get free entry as well?

IM and WIM have free entry for Surfers Paradise open.

Kings of chess
04-07-2008, 04:54 AM
Surfers Paradise Open 2008

More info at: www.kingsofchess.biz

Top players:
1. GM Dejan Antic FIDE 2482 Serbia
2. IM Stephen Solomon FIDE 2478 AUS
3. IM David Smerdon FIDE 2461 AUS
4. GM Darryl Johansen FIDE 2452 AUS
5. GM Shoojat Ghane FIDE 2415 Iran
6. IM Peter Froehlich FIDE 2362 GER
7. Moulthun Ly FIDE 2340 AUS
8. FM Jesse Sales FIDE 2330 PHI
9. FM Gene Nakauchi FIDE 2093 AUS

Chief Arbiter: International Arbiter / Charles Zworestine
PLEASE NOTE: This is a Myer Tan Grand Prix tournament 5th Class ( Grand Prix points available only in Open section )

Kings of chess
06-07-2008, 07:24 AM
SURFERS PARADISE OPEN
2008 CHESS TOURNAMENT
Surf the chess board!
Excellent air-conditioned venue, where you can stay, dine and play chess. Have a fantastic weekend playing chess on the Gold Coast - the tourist capital of Australia.
$2000 First Prize 2008 Myer Tan Grand Prix Class 5
At Quality Hotels Mermaid Waters
Cnr Markeri Street and Sunshine Boulevard
Mermaid Waters, Gold Coast, QLD 4218
T: (0061) 75572 2500 F: (0061) 75572 9787
To book a room quote reference No. #63224
E: functions.mwhotel@alhgroup.com.au
W: www.mermaidwatershotel.com.au
PARADISE SECTION (FIDE-rated, 3 days)
Open to everyone to enter:
Friday 29 ( Gold Coast Show day as a Public Holiday) Saturday, 30 and Sunday, 31 August 2008
SESSION TIMES:
Friday: Registration 8.30-9.15AM,
Rd1 9.30AM, Rd 2 2.30 PM
Saturday: Rd 3 9.30AM, Rd 4 2.30 PM
Sunday: Rd 5 9.30AM, Rd 6 2.30 PM
Presentation 6.30PM
ENTRY FEE: $ 90 (Grandmasters free entry)
FORMAT: Six-round Swiss
TIME CONTROLS: 90 min + 30 sec per move
PRIZES: First $2000, Second $1000, Third $500,
Fourth $200, Fifth $100, Brilliancy prize $200
SURFING SECTION ( ACF-rated, 2 days)
Restricted to players rated under 2000
Saturday, 30 August – Sunday, 31 August
SESSION TIMES:
Saturday: Registration 8.30-9.15AM,
Rd1 9.30AM, Rd 2 12.00PM, Rd 3 2.30 PM
Sunday: Rd 4 9.30AM, Rd 5 12.00PM,
Rd 6 2.30 PM, Presentation 5.00PM
ENTRY FEE: $ 60
FORMAT: Six-round Swiss
TIME CONTROLS: 60 min + 10 sec per move
PRIZES: 1st $500, 2nd $200, 3rd $100,
Under 1600: 1st $200, 2nd $100, 3rd $50, Under 1100 Junior: Wii Game Console, Runners up: medals
Under 1100 Adult: $100.00, Runners up : medals
Under 700 Junior: Mobile phone, Runners up: medals
FUN SECTION ( 1 day)
For beginners and parents. Restricted to unrated players.
No clock, no recording of moves.
Saturday, 30 August
SESSION TIMES: same as “Surfing” section
ENTRY FEE: $ 30 1st Prize: $100 Runners up: medals
Information on this form are subject to change
REGISTRATION CLOSES ON 20 August 2008.
Please note: Tournament details are subject to change.
ENTRY FORM
Name: ___________________________________
Address:__________________________________
_________________________________________
Phone: _____________ D.O.B.:____________
Status: _____________ Rating:____________
(Adult / Junior)
Email:____________________________________
Section entering: Paradise / Surfing / Fun
(Please circle one) (Open) (U2000) (Unrated)
Entries and payments closing on Monday, 25 August 2008. Venue capacity limited to 120 players.
Players who fail to register in person 8:30am - 9:15am on the day will be given a half point bye for round one.
Note: Entrants must be current CAQ members;
non-members or lapsed members may join with this entry.
Entry fee payable: $ _______________________________
(including CAQ membership fee of $10, if applicable)
Signature:________________________________________
Post with fee to: Kings of Chess, PO Box 5253,
Q Super Centre, Mermaid Waters Q 4218, Australia
Direct bank deposit to: Kings of chess, ANZ Bank,
SWIFT code: ANZBAU3M, BSB: 014 688,
Acc. Number: 4895 63975. Quote player’s name as reference.
For credit card payments ring us or please fax details to:
Fax. (0061) 07 5578 6171
Enquiries: (0061) 07 5578 5872 Mob (0061) 0414 673 228
Email: info@kingsofchess.biz Web: www.kingsofchess.biz

53 Days to go !!!

CameronD
06-07-2008, 09:40 AM
Hi

Are you going to create a list of entries later.

Just asking, as I'll play in the open if 30% of entries are under 1700

Kings of chess
07-07-2008, 08:03 PM
Hi

Are you going to create a list of entries later.

Just asking, as I'll play in the open if 30% of entries are under 1700

List of the players registered for Surfers Paradise Open will be announced soon we receive confirmation from overseas players with their participation.
All of them applied for Visa and may inform us very soon how successful they are.

Kings of chess
07-07-2008, 08:10 PM
Surfers Paradise Open 2008

More info at: www.kingsofchess.biz

Top players:
1. GM Dejan Antic FIDE 2482 Serbia
2. IM Stephen Solomon FIDE 2478 AUS
3. IM David Smerdon FIDE 2461 AUS
4. GM Darryl Johansen FIDE 2452 AUS
5. GM Shoojat Ghane FIDE 2415 Iran
6. IM Peter Froehlich FIDE 2362 GER
7. Moulthun Ly FIDE 2340 AUS
8. FM Jesse Sales FIDE 2330 PHI
9. FM Gene Nakauchi FIDE 2093 AUS

Chief Arbiter: International Arbiter / Charles Zworestine
Asistant Arbiters: International Arbiter / FM Sultan Al Tahir (Emirates)
and Amir Karibasic ( MONROI / Live games broadcast )

More info at; www.kingsofchess.biz

Capablanca-Fan
08-07-2008, 09:32 AM
IM and WIM have free entry for Surfers Paradise open.
With all due respect, this is a big mistake. The IM title is open to both sexes, while the WIM title is a much lower title open only to women. Indeed, IM > WGM and FM > WIM, and women who have both of a pair agree.

CameronD
08-07-2008, 07:55 PM
With all due respect, this is a big mistake. The IM title is open to both sexes, while the WIM title is a much lower title open only to women. Indeed, IM > WGM and FM > WIM, and women who have both of a pair agree.

Leave the organizer alone Jono.

Its up to him who gets free entry, he's the one responsible for the books and the tournaments profitability.

Capablanca-Fan
08-07-2008, 08:39 PM
Leave the organizer alone Jono.
I never doubted his right to do what he wants, and also wish him all the very best for the tournament and will promote it at my club. Likewise, it is my right to point out that it's a mistake to treat unequal things equally. So leave ME alone.

Desmond
09-07-2008, 08:19 AM
Hi

Are you going to create a list of entries later.

Just asking, as I'll play in the open if 30% of entries are under 1700
I'd say the main event will be stronger than that.

Kings of chess
09-07-2008, 09:08 AM
With all due respect, this is a big mistake. The IM title is open to both sexes, while the WIM title is a much lower title open only to women. Indeed, IM > WGM and FM > WIM, and women who have both of a pair agree.

Hi Jono
I understand your point, but we just followed other organisers and I think it will encourage more girls and women to play in stronger tournaments.
It was said to see that we had at Broadbeach Cup only 1 girl playing between 56 men/boys. Also we are going to add prizes for best Female in Open and Under 2000 section soon.

More info at: www.kingsofchess.biz

Capablanca-Fan
09-07-2008, 09:47 AM
Hi Jono
I understand your point, but we just followed other organisers and I think it will encourage more girls and women to play in stronger tournaments.
It was said to see that we had at Broadbeach Cup only 1 girl playing between 56 men/boys. Also we are going to add prizes for best Female in Open and Under 2000 section soon.

More info at: www.kingsofchess.biz

Hi Amir

Not sure about that though. It tells women that they can't reach the same standards as men, so we have to make special allowances for them.

And offering special prizes doesn't seem to work that well. It's hard even to find women for the Women's Olympic team. Conversely, at the Day of Knights, which had no tokenism, we had a number of females entering, and couple of girls winning the open prizes on merit.

All the best for the tourney.

Kings of chess
13-07-2008, 08:12 PM
Hi Amir

Not sure about that though. It tells women that they can't reach the same standards as men, so we have to make special allowances for them.

And offering special prizes doesn't seem to work that well. It's hard even to find women for the Women's Olympic team. Conversely, at the Day of Knights, which had no tokenism, we had a number of females entering, and couple of girls winning the open prizes on merit.

All the best for the tourney.
Hi Jono,
See conditions at :
Queenstown Classic: All Grandmasters (including wgm) receive free entry. Australian/New Zealand International Masters (including wim)

See SIO 2009: Tournament entry is free for GMs, IMs, WGMs, WIMs

Malesia Open 2009: tournament entry fee for Gms, Ims, WGms, WIms

Garvinator
13-07-2008, 09:02 PM
Hi Jono,
See conditions at :
Queenstown Classic: All Grandmasters (including wgm) receive free entry. Australian/New Zealand International Masters (including wim)

See SIO 2009: Tournament entry is free for GMs, IMs, WGMs, WIMs

Malesia Open 2009: tournament entry fee for Gms, Ims, WGms, WIms
Common practice does not necessarily mean correct or fair practice.

This is an old topic, but why should any player receive free entry, when another, rated 400 or more higher, does not?

Vlad
13-07-2008, 10:47 PM
Common practice does not necessarily mean correct or fair practice.

This is an old topic, but why should any player receive free entry, when another, rated 400 or more higher, does not?

If we apply your logics with respect to rating prizes, then there should be no rating prizes as well. Why would you give prizes to players who hardly know how to move pieces and do not give them to players rated 1000-2000 points higher?:)

Anyway, I believe this point is very debatable. If people in Australia want to have more girls to play in the competitions, organizers should design some bonuses for girls only. It could be prizes, free entry, etc. but only for girls.

Now, I do not think Amir answered my question why weak kids are offered big prizes for which strong kids are not eligible. I do not think any other tournament in Australia or overseas employ this strategy.

Edit: I do not think post 22 could be considered as a serious answer. Why do you provide free entry for IMs and GMs? You want to have stronger players to participate, right? Why do you then do the opposite with the kids? You only encourage weak kids to play in this competition.

Axiom
14-07-2008, 02:11 AM
Common practice does not necessarily mean correct or fair practice.

This is an old topic, but why should any player receive free entry, when another, rated 400 or more higher, does not?
How about an entry fee sliding scale based on rating. ie. the higher the rating the less the entry fee.
Better than this title racket business self perpetuating.

billross
14-07-2008, 07:51 AM
Now, I do not think Amir answered my question why weak kids are offered big prizes for which strong kids are not eligible. I do not think any other tournament in Australia or overseas employ this strategy.

Edit: I do not think post 22 could be considered as a serious answer. Why do you provide free entry for IMs and GMs? You want to have stronger players to participate, right? Why do you then do the opposite with the kids? You only encourage weak kids to play in this competition.

I think there is sense in this strategy. I believe we need more OTB participants in comps. Young kids perhaps feel intimidated by the thought of entering an adult tournament. Provision of prizes aimed at this group must help make them feel welcome.

Trent Parker
14-07-2008, 07:58 AM
PLEASE NOTE: This is a Myer Tan Grand Prix tournament 5th Class ( Grand Prix points available only in Open section )

with there being an U2000 division being in place, shouldn't the divisional GP points be allocated in the U2000 division for divisions U2000 and Under?


Regards


Trent Parker

Brian_Jones
14-07-2008, 09:18 AM
with there being an U2000 division being in place, shouldn't the divisional GP points be allocated in the U2000 division for divisions U2000 and Under? Regards Trent Parker

I agree Trent. But the U2000 is a faster time limit over two days.

It is Amir who makes this decision! :)

Capablanca-Fan
14-07-2008, 12:06 PM
Hi Jono,
See conditions at :
Queenstown Classic: All Grandmasters (including wgm) receive free entry. Australian/New Zealand International Masters (including wim)

See SIO 2009: Tournament entry is free for GMs, IMs, WGMs, WIMs

Malesia Open 2009: tournament entry fee for Gms, Ims, WGms, WIms
All this proves is the pervasiveness of political correctness. It's still patronizing and sexist to allow weaker females entry but not stronger males. The IM title is higher than a WGM, and the FM is higher than a WIM. Garvo's point still stands:


This is an old topic, but why should any player receive free entry, when another, rated 400 or more higher, does not?

Capablanca-Fan
14-07-2008, 12:08 PM
If people in Australia want to have more girls to play in the competitions, organizers should design some bonuses for girls only. It could be prizes, free entry, etc. but only for girls.
The Day of Knights (http://www.chesschat.org/showthread.php?p=201982#post201982) showed that we could attract a number of females, and some of them won prizes, without any patronizing fee reductions or female-only prizes.

Duff McKagan
14-07-2008, 06:33 PM
Yeah looked like a good tournament Jono, with the help of the real estate you got some respectable prizes. Take a bow.

Capablanca-Fan
14-07-2008, 07:50 PM
Yeah looked like a good tournament Jono, with the help of the real estate you got some respectable prizes. Take a bow.
Thanx Comrade. All the same, John Surridge actually deserves the credit for organizing the generous White Knight Realty (http://www.whiteknightsrealty.com.au/)sponsorship. I just arbited it.

Kings of chess
14-07-2008, 08:12 PM
The Day of Knights (http://www.chesschat.org/showthread.php?p=201982#post201982) showed that we could attract a number of females, and some of them won prizes, without any patronizing fee reductions or female-only prizes.
Hi Jono,
Like I said I do understand your point but like I said women have different obligations in their lives and so much time to study chess as man.
However, your tournament had strongest girl, which was my daughter, Melanie (966 junior) by rating,but we would like to have much stronger women field.

CameronD
14-07-2008, 08:16 PM
I just queitly add, that I've never understood why they have womens titles at all. It should just be GM IM FM CM

eclectic
14-07-2008, 08:19 PM
I just queitly add, that I've never understood why they have womens titles at all. It should just be GM IM FM CM

they are more fide money spinners! ;)

indeed why bother with IMs FMs CMs either? :hand:

Kings of chess
14-07-2008, 08:34 PM
If we apply your logics with respect to rating prizes, then there should be no rating prizes as well. Why would you give prizes to players who hardly know how to move pieces and do not give them to players rated 1000-2000 points higher?:)

Anyway, I believe this point is very debatable. If people in Australia want to have more girls to play in the competitions, organizers should design some bonuses for girls only. It could be prizes, free entry, etc. but only for girls.

Now, I do not think Amir answered my question why weak kids are offered big prizes for which strong kids are not eligible. I do not think any other tournament in Australia or overseas employ this strategy.

Edit: I do not think post 22 could be considered as a serious answer. Why do you provide free entry for IMs and GMs? You want to have stronger players to participate, right? Why do you then do the opposite with the kids? You only encourage weak kids to play in this competition.

Hi Drug,
Juniors under 1100 do have good 1st prize, but why?
Simple answer: To popularise chess in Australia!
If you need more detailed answer, please enter the tournament and I am going to talk to you personaly and explain you "why". I am sure you will understand my point....

Kings of chess
14-07-2008, 08:36 PM
I just queitly add, that I've never understood why they have womens titles at all. It should just be GM IM FM CM
Hi Cameron,
This is correct.
That is what I would like to say to Jono, and he should chase the people who did organise these titles.

CameronD
14-07-2008, 08:36 PM
Hows entries progressing. only 6 weeks left

Capablanca-Fan
14-07-2008, 09:10 PM
Hi Cameron,
This is correct.
That is what I would like to say to Jono, and he should chase the people who did organise these titles.
By the same token, tournament organizers should not reward titles they know are dodgy, even if "everyone else does it".

Capablanca-Fan
14-07-2008, 09:15 PM
Hi Amir,

Like I said I do understand your point but like I said women have different obligations in their lives and so much time to study chess as man.
This hardly applies to the young women who tend to be keenest on chess. In Australia, girls have just as much opportunity as boys, as shown by brother/sister pairs in tournaments.


However, your tournament had strongest girl, which was my daughter, Melanie (966 junior) by rating,but we would like to have much stronger women field.
Me too. But they all have to start somewhere, and the girls who won prizes on merit rather than just "best girl" would be encouraged to go further.

Capablanca-Fan
14-07-2008, 09:16 PM
Hows entries progressing. only 6 weeks left
We will encourage entries at the Logan Club.

Vlad
14-07-2008, 11:04 PM
Hi Drug,
Juniors under 1100 do have good 1st prize, but why?
Simple answer: To popularise chess in Australia!
If you need more detailed answer, please enter the tournament and I am going to talk to you personaly and explain you "why". I am sure you will understand my point....

Sorry mate, weekenders is not my cup of coffee. My only interest in weekenders is my 7-year-old rabbit, who is the current unofficial world champion.

And you know it is not about money. We had experience in Turkey in the World Youth last year where organizers introduced a prize for the youngest participant. As far as I know they never asked anybody and never announced anything but suddenly got a couple of kids on the scene and awarded them with some prizes. My son asked "why?" and you know I did not have an answer to this question. And really why? I do not think they performed as well and I was not even sure if they were younger than my son.

Now it would be great if you could tell me how to explain to him why a 17-year-old will be getting a prize while he (being just 7) will not eligible for it. As I said it is not about money, I just do not want to hear another “why”. And it is clear that he has no chance for a junior prize anyway. There are kids who play much better than him. But if he does not win a "proper" prize and ask “why” I can explain it by saying that “there were kids who played better and we need to practise more, blah, blah, blah”… At the current stage there is no explanation.

Anyway, thanks for the invitation and good luck with your tournament. Maybe we will play in it one day.

Kings of chess
17-07-2008, 04:42 AM
Surfers Paradise Open 2008

More info at: www.kingsofchess.biz

Top players:
1. GM Dejan Antic FIDE 2482 Serbia
2. IM Stephen Solomon FIDE 2478 AUS
3. IM David Smerdon FIDE 2461 AUS
4. GM Darryl Johansen FIDE 2452 AUS
5. GM Shoojat Ghane FIDE 2415 Iran
6. IM Peter Froehlich FIDE 2362 GER
7. Moulthun Ly FIDE 2340 AUS
8. FM Jesse Sales FIDE 2330 PHI
9. FM Gene Nakauchi FIDE 2093 AUS

Chief Arbiter: International Arbiter / Charles Zworestine
Latest updates coming soon. For more visit www.kingsofchess.biz

Kings of chess
17-07-2008, 07:30 PM
Sorry mate, weekenders is not my cup of coffee. My only interest in weekenders is my 7-year-old rabbit, who is the current unofficial world champion.

And you know it is not about money. We had experience in Turkey in the World Youth last year where organizers introduced a prize for the youngest participant. As far as I know they never asked anybody and never announced anything but suddenly got a couple of kids on the scene and awarded them with some prizes. My son asked "why?" and you know I did not have an answer to this question. And really why? I do not think they performed as well and I was not even sure if they were younger than my son.

Now it would be great if you could tell me how to explain to him why a 17-year-old will be getting a prize while he (being just 7) will not eligible for it. As I said it is not about money, I just do not want to hear another “why”. And it is clear that he has no chance for a junior prize anyway. There are kids who play much better than him. But if he does not win a "proper" prize and ask “why” I can explain it by saying that “there were kids who played better and we need to practise more, blah, blah, blah”… At the current stage there is no explanation.

Anyway, thanks for the invitation and good luck with your tournament. Maybe we will play in it one day.

NEW: Company: "737 FLIGHT ZONE" / BOEING 737 SIMULATOR / from Surfers Paradise / Website:www.737flightsimulator.com.au
sponsoring Surfers Paradise Open 2008 with 10 Free Tickets in worth of $1000. Tickets will be given as prizes for Juniors between 12 and 18 Year age.
Enjoy unforgetable 1/2 hour fly as Captain of Boeing 737 and choose 3 Friends to join you on board for free of charge.

Garvinator
18-07-2008, 12:13 AM
Have a question that I am sure others are starting to ask. What is on offer for adults to encourage them to play in this tournament?

eclectic
18-07-2008, 12:19 AM
Have a question that I am sure others are starting to ask. What is on offer for adults to encourage them to play in this tournament?

ratings damage insurance coverage for protection against improving juniors? :uhoh:

Garrett
18-07-2008, 07:29 AM
Have a question that I am sure others are starting to ask. What is on offer for adults to encourage them to play in this tournament?

Don't know about anyone else but first place is what I'm chasing.

Watto
18-07-2008, 10:27 AM
Have a question that I am sure others are starting to ask. What is on offer for adults to encourage them to play in this tournament?
I would have thought a few things. The excellent first prize attracts the strongest players. Their presence in turn attracts more players... Also, it’s a Grand Prix 5 category tournament, FIDE rated and it’s near the beach...

Garvinator
18-07-2008, 10:35 AM
I would have thought a few things. The excellent first prize attracts the strongest players. Their presence in turn attracts more players... Also, it’s a Grand Prix 5 category tournament, FIDE rated and it’s near the beach...
I meant prizes that are specifically to attract the adults, cause currently all the special prizes are for juniors. It is no wonder adults sometimes can feel a little left out when all special prizes are for children, but nothing for adults. Even though adults are always paying the higher entry fees.

The factors you mention are open to be won by all players if they want them.

Watto
18-07-2008, 10:41 AM
I meant prizes that are specifically to attract the adults.

The factors you mention are open to be won by all players if they want them.
I realise that. I guess your question was too general for my liking given that the tournament on the whole seems more attractive than most. ;)

Garvinator
18-07-2008, 10:44 AM
I realise that. I guess your question was too general for my liking given that the tournament on the whole seems more attractive than most. ;)
Was my second attempt a better effort, in your opinion ;).

Watto
18-07-2008, 10:46 AM
I meant prizes that are specifically to attract the adults, cause currently all the special prizes are for juniors. It is no wonder adults sometimes can feel a little left out when all special prizes are for children, but nothing for adults. Even though adults are always paying the higher entry fees.

Yes, good points all. It does seem a bit lopsided.

Watto
18-07-2008, 10:46 AM
Was my second attempt a better effort, in your opinion ;).
lol. yes. :)

Garrett
18-07-2008, 10:48 AM
Garvo - you can have a drive in my (non-simulation) ute if it will make you feel better.

Garvinator
18-07-2008, 10:52 AM
Garvo - you can have a drive in my (non-simulation) ute if it will make you feel better.
along the beach :hmm:

Desmond
18-07-2008, 10:59 AM
Have a question that I am sure others are starting to ask. What is on offer for adults to encourage them to play in this tournament?I do not expect a prize, I play because I enjoy it.

Vlad
18-07-2008, 11:21 AM
I believe the correct way of saying is "some juniors" rather than just juniors. These prizes can only attract juniors of specific age and specific strength and it seems to me that post 65 in response to post 63 is some kind of joke. Well, I am glad that kings of chess has an exceptional sense of humour.:)

I agree, I also do not care about the prizes that much. If there were no prizes it would not change my mind about playing or not. However, if prizes are present it would be nice if their distribution was fair at least in some way.

At this stage we are in the process of choosing whether we go to Surfers Paradise Open or Best in West. At this stage it looks like Best in West is leading.:)

Kings of chess
22-07-2008, 10:47 PM
Latest updates coming soon. For more visit www.kingsofchess.biz

Only 37 days left! Updated entries coming soon. We are suprised with a huge interest for FIDE section / Paradise section with 3 days tournament / time control 90minutes + 30 seconds / 2 games per day on Friday 29/Saturday 30/ Sunday 31 August 2008. Enjoy and relax playing chess with no time pressure!
Improve your rank with extra Grand Prix points at Myer Tan Grand Prix 5 Class.!
For more visit: www.kingsofchess.biz

Kings of chess
26-07-2008, 12:05 PM
Have a question that I am sure others are starting to ask. What is on offer for adults to encourage them to play in this tournament?

Some prizes will be presented to players (Adults) from Queensland and outside Gold Coast area in petrol vouchers!!!!
Stay tuned up because is coming much more!!!

Kings of chess
28-07-2008, 08:22 PM
Hi

Are you going to create a list of entries later.

Just asking, as I'll play in the open if 30% of entries are under 1700

Hi Cameron,
Here are the information you would like to see:

Surfers Paradise Open 2008 / Paradise – FIDE Section only
Friday 29/30/31 of August 2008
Chief Arbiter: IA Charles Zworestine
3 days / 2 Rounds each day Time Control: 90+ 30 seconds
Top players:
1. GM Dejan Antic (*) FIDE 2482 Serbia
2. IM Stephen Solomon FIDE 2478 AUS
3. IM David Smerdon FIDE 2461 AUS
4. GM Darryl Johanson FIDE 2452 AUS
5. GM Shoojat Ghane (*) FIDE 2415 Iran
6. IM Peter Froehlich FIDE 2362 GER
7. Moulthun Ly FIDE 2340 AUS
8. FM Jesse Sales FIDE 2330 PHI
9. Domagoj Dragicevic FIDE 2224 AUS
10. FM Gene Nakauchi FIDE 2093 AUS
11. WFM Kimberley Jane Cuhanan (*) FIDE 1971 PHI
12. John Alkin FIDE 1914 AUS
13. George Lester FIDE 1799 AUS
14. Brian Thomas FIDE AUS 1880
15. WIM Alexandra Jule FIDE 1931 AUS
16. Sebastian Jule FIDE 1904 AUS
17. Naderlou Fatemeh (*) FIDE 1647 Iran
18. Alexander Stahnke FIDE 1807 AUS
19. Liu Yi FIDE AUS 1684
20. Douglas Williams FIDE AUS 1700*
21. Sam Grigg FIDE 1892 AUS
22. Andrew Brown (*) FIDE 2013 AUS
23. Sarah Anton (*) FIDE 1681 AUS
24. Mark Cervenjak FIDE AUS 1384
25. Amir Karibasic (?) FIDE AUS 1450
26. Leteisha Simmonds FIDE AUS 1162
27. Peter Radovan FIDE 1907 AUS
28. John Radovan FIDE AUS 1322
29. Chelebichanin Nenad FIDE AUS 1666
30. Jonas Muller FIDE 1976 AUS

(*) - awaiting visa or not confirmed. For more visit: www.kingsofchess.biz

CameronD
28-07-2008, 08:33 PM
Thanks kig of chess

The ratings are spread out as I thought it would be with 30% under 1800, so I'll be respectable and will enter next week. I'm sure there will be an influx of lower rated players till the deadline.

Well done on gaining 30+ entries with a month still left :clap:

Kings of chess
30-07-2008, 07:52 PM
Thanks kig of chess

The ratings are spread out as I thought it would be with 30% under 1800, so I'll be respectable and will enter next week. I'm sure there will be an influx of lower rated players till the deadline.

Well done on gaining 30+ entries with a month still left :clap:

Thanks Cameron.
Of course, that was the list for Paradise section (Open) only, with list of players in under 2000/Surfing section we already have exceeded 50 players.

eclectic
30-07-2008, 08:33 PM
what is the fide regulation which sets the minimum number of rounds an event like this must have to be fide rated?

i had been suffering under the delusion that the minimum was 7 rounds

anyway shirty shows it as registered in his october 2008 fide ratings thread

CameronD
30-07-2008, 11:53 PM
what is the fide regulation which sets the minimum number of rounds an event like this must have to be fide rated?

i had been suffering under the delusion that the minimum was 7 rounds

anyway shirty shows it as registered in his october 2008 fide ratings thread


Dont know much about this, but i think that the number of games refer to norms and not the rating of games

Kings of chess
01-08-2008, 04:58 AM
Hi Cameron,
Here are the information you would like to see:

Surfers Paradise Open 2008 / Paradise – FIDE Section only
Friday 29/30/31 of August 2008
Chief Arbiter: IA Charles Zworestine
3 days / 2 Rounds each day Time Control: 90+ 30 seconds
Top players:
1. GM Dejan Antic (*) FIDE 2482 Serbia
2. IM Stephen Solomon FIDE 2478 AUS
3. IM David Smerdon FIDE 2461 AUS
4. GM Darryl Johanson FIDE 2452 AUS
5. GM Shoojat Ghane (*) FIDE 2415 Iran
6. IM Peter Froehlich FIDE 2362 GER
7. Moulthun Ly FIDE 2340 AUS
8. FM Jesse Sales FIDE 2330 PHI
9. Domagoj Dragicevic FIDE 2224 AUS
10. FM Gene Nakauchi FIDE 2093 AUS
11. WFM Kimberley Jane Cuhanan (*) FIDE 1971 PHI
12. John Alkin FIDE 1914 AUS
13. George Lester FIDE 1799 AUS
14. Brian Thomas FIDE AUS 1880
15. WIM Alexandra Jule FIDE 1931 AUS
16. Sebastian Jule FIDE 1904 AUS
17. Naderlou Fatemeh (*) FIDE 1647 Iran
18. Alexander Stahnke FIDE 1807 AUS
19. Liu Yi FIDE AUS 1684
20. Douglas Williams FIDE AUS 1700*
21. Sam Grigg FIDE 1892 AUS
22. Andrew Brown (*) FIDE 2013 AUS
23. Sarah Anton (*) FIDE 1681 AUS
24. Mark Cervenjak FIDE AUS 1384
25. Amir Karibasic (?) FIDE AUS 1450
26. Leteisha Simmonds FIDE AUS 1162
27. Peter Radovan FIDE 1907 AUS
28. John Radovan FIDE AUS 1322
29. Chelebichanin Nenad FIDE AUS 1666
30. Jonas Muller FIDE 1976 AUS

(*) - awaiting visa or not confirmed. For more visit: www.kingsofchess.biz

Great News! WIM Arianne Caoili (2154) has confirmed an entry to the Surfers Paradise Open.

Kings of chess
02-08-2008, 09:04 PM
NEW: Company: "737 FLIGHT ZONE" / BOEING 737 SIMULATOR / from Surfers Paradise / Website:www.737flightsimulator.com.au
sponsoring Surfers Paradise Open 2008 with 10 Free Tickets in worth of $1000. Tickets will be given as prizes for Juniors between 12 and 18 Year age.
Enjoy unforgetable 1/2 hour fly as Captain of Boeing 737 and choose 3 Friends to join you on board for free of charge.

We are going to present free ICC / Internet chess club memberships(http://www.chessclub.com) for 1 Year / or extansions to existing accounts to 4-6 players http://www.kingsofchess.biz/icc.jpg.

Kings of chess
06-08-2008, 03:46 PM
Great News! WIM Arianne Caoili (2154) has confirmed an entry to the Surfers Paradise Open.

Latest entry: Emma Guo / Fide 1732

Kings of chess
07-08-2008, 07:59 PM
Thanks kig of chess

The ratings are spread out as I thought it would be with 30% under 1800, so I'll be respectable and will enter next week. I'm sure there will be an influx of lower rated players till the deadline.

Well done on gaining 30+ entries with a month still left :clap:

Hi Cameron,
I have received your payment and entry form.
We are glad to see you playing at Surfers Paradise Open 2008.
Regards,
Amir Karibasic

Kings of chess
08-08-2008, 10:10 PM
Great News! WIM Arianne Caoili (2154) has confirmed an entry to the Surfers Paradise Open.

Total 60 players to date!

Latest updates for paradise FIDE section:

1.|Antic, Dejan|OS|2482|2476|gm|male
2.|Solomon, Stephen J|QLD|2478|2441|im|male
3.|Smerdon, David C|ACT|2461|2463|im|male
4.|Johansen, Darryl K|VIC|2452|2423|gm|male
5.|Ghane, Shoojat|Iran|2415||gm|male
6.|Froehlich, Peter|QLD|2362|2352|im|male
7.|Ly, Moulthun|QLD|2340|2345||male
8.|Sales, Jesse Noel|NSW|2330|2307|fm|male
9.|Dragicevic, Domagoj|VIC|2224|2125||male
10.|Caoili, Arianne B|QLD|2154|2170|wim|female
11.|Nakauchi, Gene|QLD|2093|2020|fm|male
12.|Mastilovic, Rajko|QLD|2085|2128||male
13.|Brown, Andrew|ACT|2013|1925||male
14.|Muller, Jonas|QLD|1976|1679||male
15.|Cunanan, Kimberly Jane|OS|1971|1961||female
16.|Jule, Alexandra|QLD|1931|1786|wim|female
17.|Goundar, Sanmogam|Fiji|1916|1839||male
18.|Jule, Sebastian|QLD|1904|1635||male
19.|Grigg, Sam|QLD|1892|1783||male
20.|Stahnke, Alexander|QLD|1807|1605||male
21.|Lester, George E|QLD|1799|1776||male
22.|Guo, Emma|ACT|1732|1683||female
23.|Anton, Sarah|VIC|1681|1458||female
24.|Naderlou, Fatimah|Iran|1647|||female
25.|Thomas, Brian|QLD||1880||male
26.|Williams, Douglas|QLD||1800||male
27.|Liu, Yi|QLD||1684||male
28.|Chelebichanin, Nenad|QLD||1666||male
29.|Karibasic, Amir|QLD||1450||male
30.|De Vere, Cameron|QLD||1427||male
31.|Cervenjak, Mark|QLD||1286||male
32.|Simmonds, Leteisha|QLD||1162||female


Updated list of players in under 2000 / Surfing section:

1.,Wongwichit, Phachara,QLD,,1949,
2.,Lovejoy, David,QLD,,1882,
3.,Alkin, John,QLD,,1681,
4.,Stokes, Mark C,QLD,,1581,
5.,Duffin, Mike,QLD,,1563,
6.,Kingston, Joe,QLD,,1559,
7.,Stahnke, Axel,QLD,,1554,
8.,Ivanov, Nikola,VIC,,1460,
9.,O'Flynn, Alexander,QLD,,1432,
10.,Lapitan, Daniel,QLD,,985,
11.,Arase, Alexander,QLD,,928,
12.,Karibasic, Sabin,QLD,,897,
13.,Gray, Callum,QLD,,877,
14.,Cervenjak, Matthew,QLD,,738,
15.,Arase, Daniel,QLD,,730,
16.,Karibasic, Melanie,QLD,,550,
17.,Coric, Branko,QLD,,,
18.,Gosiang Ann, Kriss,PHI,,,
19.,Gosiang T, Nicol,PHI,,,
20.,Miguel L., Roel,PHI,,,
21.,Rosalan, Kenneth,PHI,,,

Fun group list / parents and kids / no chesclock usage:

1.|Stahnke, Mercy|QLD||
2.|Schuch, Breeahana|QLD||
3.|Hickey, Pamela|QLD||
4.|Hickey, Garry|QLD||
5.|Hickey, Sarah|QLD||
6.|Rai, Zhang|QLD||
7.|Yu, Zhang|QLD||

Kings of chess
10-08-2008, 09:02 AM
Great News! WIM Arianne Caoili (2154) has confirmed an entry to the Surfers Paradise Open.


Arianne Caoili, WIM, singer, photo model. "Australia's chess starlet Arianne Caoili" in Surfers Paradise Open 2008:


A special thanks to WIM Arianne Caoili for entering in our tournament. We are sure that chess players will be most thankful to Arianne and her popularity for following additional prizes sponsored in Paradise Section:

NEW / Best Female: $200 NEW / 2nd Best Female: $100

NEW: Best Under 2000 Fide rating $100 and Best Fide Unrated $100

Basil
10-08-2008, 11:09 AM
I'd like to say two things:

1. I am a huge fan of 99% of everything you and the club do, KOC. I think you are v good for chess.
2. The post above makes me wanna puke big time.

Metro
10-08-2008, 11:45 AM
2. The post above makes me wanna puke big time.
Why?

Basil
10-08-2008, 11:59 AM
Why?
It's perpetuating all that (cerebral) society is trying to rid itself of. Take a step back and put yourself in the shoes of the next female entrant. I'd prefer my dumbed-down tabloid commentary at arms length where I can chose to ignore it, rather than have it put under my nose thanks very much.

Capablanca-Fan
10-08-2008, 02:13 PM
I agree with both of Gunner's points. What does it say about female players in general if every female entrant is headline news? It makes it sound like it's a real achievement for a female to play chess at all.

As for Point #1, I've grabbed some entry forms from the GCC to distribute at the Logan club.

CameronD
10-08-2008, 02:32 PM
I'd like to say two things:

1. I am a huge fan of 99% of everything you and the club do, KOC. I think you are v good for chess.
2. The post above makes me wanna puke big time.

We live in a world of commercialism, If the advertisement of her entry increases sponsorship, entries and spectators, then it can only be great for Kings of Chess and chess and should be pushed more. She is the best rated female in the country (34th overall)

Maybe the world is twisted and has wrong priorities,but chess needs to survive in the environment, otherwise it will continue to slowly decline.

Garvinator
10-08-2008, 03:33 PM
She is the best rated female in the country (34th overall) Define best?

If you mean highest rated, then your claim is wrong. According to the june 08 masterlist, Anastasia Sorokina is the highest rated female.

The reason is makes some people puke like Jono, Howard, quite a few others I imagine and myself in this case is that it really is just lowest common denominator stuff.

Instead of focusing on her previous chess achievements for younger female players, the focus is on her looks and being famous for being famous.

Usually the focus turns to a person's looks when there is not much else to advertise.

CameronD
10-08-2008, 03:54 PM
Define best?

If you mean highest rated, then your claim is wrong. According to the june 08 masterlist, Anastasia Sorokina is the highest rated female.

The reason is makes some people puke like Jono, Howard, quite a few others I imagine and myself in this case is that it really is just lowest common denominator stuff.

Instead of focusing on her previous chess achievements for younger female players, the focus is on her looks and being famous for being famous.

Usually the focus turns to a person's looks when there is not much else to advertise.


http://www.auschess.org.au/ratings/acfrate.htm

Basil
10-08-2008, 04:30 PM
We live in a world of commercialism...
So? Lines are to be drawn. I'll draw while you cop out.


If the advertisement of her entry increases sponsorship, entries and spectators, then it can only be great for Kings of Chess and chess and should be pushed more.
Not at the expense of other things.


She is the best rated female in the country (34th overall)
Great. Promote that. It's a great story.


Maybe the world is twisted and has wrong priorities...
And you're position promotes that effect.



... but chess needs to survive in the environment, otherwise it will continue to slowly decline.
Balls. If chess' only hope is the style of promotion you're advocating, let me know when you run for office and I'll run against you.

Garvinator
10-08-2008, 05:32 PM
http://www.auschess.org.au/ratings/acfrate.htm
That list only shows players with a ! or !! rating. Sorokina's rating is a blank.


Only players who have a rating followed by a ! or a !! and have a career total of at least 30 rated games are eligible for listing in the Top lists.http://www.auschess.org.au/ratings/acfrate.htm

CameronD
10-08-2008, 05:44 PM
That list only shows players with a ! or !! rating. Sorokina's rating is a blank.

http://www.auschess.org.au/ratings/acfrate.htm

So the ACF are saying that Sorokina rating isn't reliable. Once she gets a !, then she can be declared the best by ACF rating purposes. Otherwise why publish the symbols after the ratings

Garvinator
10-08-2008, 07:28 PM
So the ACF are saying that Sorokina rating isn't reliable. Once she gets a !, then she can be declared the best by ACF rating purposes. Otherwise why publish the symbols after the ratings
So, under your system of chess tournament promotion.

Roll up, Roll up, come see Australia's number one female in action, Arianne Caoili. Sponsors and spectators turn up and what would they see if Anastasia was playing in the first round, Ana playing on a higher board than Arianne.

Sponsors and spectators would rightfully be asking then, but I thought you said that Arianne was our number one female, so why is Anastasia on a higher board?

CameronD
10-08-2008, 08:05 PM
So, under your system of chess tournament promotion.

Roll up, Roll up, come see Australia's number one female in action, Arianne Caoili. Sponsors and spectators turn up and what would they see if Anastasia was playing in the first round, Ana playing on a higher board than Arianne.

Sponsors and spectators would rightfully be asking then, but I thought you said that Arianne was our number one female, so why is Anastasia on a higher board?

I would refer them to the official ACF toplists and tell them to refer any questions to the ACF why Anastasia isn't on the list and that her rating isn't reliable till she plays more games.

Under your thery, a player could play 9 games, get a dubious rating and be the countries top player, and never play another game. maybe garvin should ask the ACF why they publish the symbols, personally, I believe players should play 30 games a year to get and maintain their rating or they become unrated.

eclectic
10-08-2008, 08:15 PM
I believe players should play 30 games a year to get and maintain their rating or they become unrated.

wouldn't some players love that idea!!!!

CameronD
10-08-2008, 08:21 PM
wouldn't some players love that idea!!!!

There is always the concept of provisional ratings ec.

Capablanca-Fan
10-08-2008, 08:24 PM
I believe players should play 30 games a year to get and maintain their rating or they become unrated.
The only point of a rating is to indicate a player's strength, or more precisely, an expected score against one or more opponents. It does not exist to reward activity.

Garvinator
10-08-2008, 09:18 PM
The only point of a rating is to indicate a player's strength, or more precisely, an expected score against one or more opponents. It does not exist to reward activity.
A second point and I believe the main point, is to seed players for a swiss draw, otherwise the swiss draw would just be a lottery draw, with players of similar strength facing widely differing fields.

Kevin Bonham
10-08-2008, 09:52 PM
Sponsors and spectators would rightfully be asking then, but I thought you said that Arianne was our number one female, so why is Anastasia on a higher board?

A problem best solved by simply referring to her as the highest-rated active female.


Under your thery, a player could play 9 games, get a dubious rating and be the countries top player, and never play another game.

No-one would take such a rating seriously and it is exactly to stop such nonsense (and milder forms of the same) that players without a ! or !! are not listed in the Top lists.


personally, I believe players should play 30 games a year to get and maintain their rating or they become unrated.

This would result in a great loss of predictive effectiveness for the system.

It's the prerogative of event organisers to seed players out of rating order if they wish to in a case where a player is inactive and they think someone else deserves higher standing.

Bill Gletsos
10-08-2008, 10:17 PM
There is always the concept of provisional ratings ec.You should not use terms when you really you do not understand them.
The term "provisional rating" is used to describe players who have a lifetime number of games less than "X" where the value of "X" varies from 4 to 30.

CameronD
10-08-2008, 10:19 PM
Under my model, all played games are dumped and the player is reset as if they've never played a game, hence a provisional rating.

Bill Gletsos
10-08-2008, 10:22 PM
Under my model, all played games are dumped and the player is reset as if they've never played a game, hence a provisional rating.That isnt a model. It is pulling a half baked theory out of thin air. It certainly has no statistical validity.

eclectic
10-08-2008, 10:25 PM
That isnt a model. It is pulling a half baked theory out of thin air. It certainly has no statistical validity.

it would suit only those with bad initial ratings who were under the illusion that were they to go into exile and study up they would come back "rehabilitated" but as you say that's a half baked theory ;)

Garrett
11-08-2008, 05:59 AM
Is this discussion still about the SPO, or has it spun off on a 'ratings' tangent and could be put into another thread ?

Kings of chess
11-08-2008, 08:41 AM
Is this discussion still about the SPO, or has it spun off on a 'ratings' tangent and could be put into another thread ?

Grandmaster Shojaat Ghane (FIDE) 2415 from Iran confirms entry in Surfers Paradise Open 2008.
We still waiting on another 3 strong players from Singapor.


For more visit ;
www.kingsofchess.biz

Ian Rout
11-08-2008, 11:45 AM
Of course people are entitled to believe whetever they want but I fail to see the logic in removing ratings of people who have played "only" 29 games in the last year, unless this was thrown up as a counterwight to the approximately equally silly belief that ratings of people who haven't played for seven years are as valid as they ever were.

One point that hasn't been mentioned is the multiplier effect. If all of a player's opponents with <30 games had no rating then the player would play fewer rated opponents than would be the case under the current list. If this means that player falls below 30 and so their games do not count towards maintaining their opponents' ratings the system may well spiral to the extent of nobody having a rating.

I also agree with Garrett's suggestion that this be moved to the Ratings forum.

Capablanca-Fan
11-08-2008, 01:00 PM
Grandmaster Shojaat Ghane (FIDE) 2415 from Iran confirms entry in Surfers Paradise Open 2008.
We still waiting on another 3 strong players from Singapor.


For more visit ;
www.kingsofchess.biz
This is real news. A 2400+ player is far more noteworthy than a 2100+ or 1700+ player who happens to be female.

Kings of chess
12-08-2008, 05:04 AM
Grandmaster Shojaat Ghane (FIDE) 2415 from Iran confirms entry in Surfers Paradise Open 2008.
We still waiting on another 3 strong players from Singapor.


For more visit ;
www.kingsofchess.biz

Emma Guo (FIDE 1732) wins free entry in Surfers Paradise Open 2008 after she composed best puzzle based on combination of 2 games from GM Alexei Shirov.

Bill Gletsos
13-08-2008, 03:50 PM
Please ensure that this event is submitted to the CAQ Ratings Officer Pat Byrom immediately after it finiishes so that he can process it and forward it to me on the 31st August for inclusion in the 1st September ACF ratings.

Kings of chess
13-08-2008, 08:45 PM
Please ensure that this event is submitted to the CAQ Ratings Officer Pat Byrom immediately after it finiishes so that he can process it and forward it to me on the 31st August for inclusion in the 1st September ACF ratings.

Please remind me before midnight on 0414 673 228.Thank you.

Basil
13-08-2008, 08:57 PM
Please remind me before midnight on 0414 673 228.Thank you.
:eek:

Hi mate

I think you'll find that Bill isn't in a position to do that for all promoters and ratings officers. I think a diary note might be the way to go - unless you're suggesting that it is Bill that should make the diary note to remind you.

Apart from that, Bill's just a tad busy at around that time. Of course Bill can speak for himself, but I think my version might be best.

CameronD
13-08-2008, 09:01 PM
:eek:

I agree gunner

Though I believe that the ratings are released to quickly (though appreciated)
The idea is for tournaments finished by the deadline to be in that period. So maybe ratings shouldn't be published till the 5th (for example) to give just finished tournaments time to go through the paperwork process.

eclectic
13-08-2008, 09:16 PM
I agree gunner

Though I believe that the ratings are released to quickly (though appreciated)
The idea is for tournaments finished by the deadline to be in that period. So maybe ratings shouldn't be published till the 5th (for example) to give just finished tournaments time to go through the paperwork process.

what do you mean "get released too quickly"?

the ratings get released on the 1st of march june september and december

ideally the cut off for submission should be a week before

i think maybe too many demands are made on Bill by expecting him to hold up things because of stragglers or because organisers don't think to plan their events so that they finish in time for a certain period or end up straddling two

if too late for this coming rating period then stiff cheddar!

they get processed for the december list

there ideally should be ONE ratings processing per period not two or three reruns because of tardiness in submissions

ok by me if this gets put in a more appropriate thread

Garvinator
13-08-2008, 09:35 PM
Please remind me before midnight on 0414 673 228.Thank you.
Hello Amir,

Sending it just before midnight is no good as it will only have reached Pat, then it still needs to be sent on to Bill. There are no guarantees that Pat will be waiting around just before midnight.

The key word below from Bill is IMMEDIATELY, not a few hours later. As there will be live game transmission, I am certain that you will have internet access at the venue, so the files can be sent by Charles Z to Pat Byrom a few minutes after the tournament is concluded and everything is packed away.

It is not the responsibility of the ACF ratings officer to chase tournaments and ask them to submit their files in time for the rating period.


Please ensure that this event is submitted to the CAQ Ratings Officer Pat Byrom immediately after it finiishes so that he can process it and forward it to me on the 31st August for inclusion in the 1st September ACF ratings.

CameronD
13-08-2008, 09:41 PM
what do you mean "get released too quickly"?

the ratings get released on the 1st of march june september and december

ideally the cut off for submission should be a week before

i think maybe too many demands are made on Bill by expecting him to hold up things because of stragglers or because organisers don't think to plan their events so that they finish in time for a certain period or end up straddling two

if too late for this coming rating period then stiff cheddar!

they get processed for the december list

there ideally should be ONE ratings processing per period not two or three reruns because of tardiness in submissions

ok by me if this gets put in a more appropriate thread

What is the deadline for tournaments to be sent to the state rating officer. This should be published and strictly enforced. Currently, I understand it to be when the tournament finishes, hence a publishing date of say 5-7 days later so that Bill only does it once. Remember that the state officer should be given a few business days to deal with their paperwork. I think strict rules and enforcement might be required, whatever they may be.

Kings of chess
13-08-2008, 09:43 PM
Hello Amir,

Sending it just before midnight is no good as it will only have reached Pat, then it still needs to be sent on to Bill. There are no guarantees that Pat will be waiting around just before midnight.

The key word below from Bill is IMMEDIATELY, not a few hours later. As there will be live game transmission, I am certain that you will have internet access at the venue, so the files can be sent by Charles Z to Pat Byrom a few minutes after the tournament is concluded and everything is packed away.

It is not the responsibility of the ACF ratings officer to chase tournaments and ask them to submit their files in time for the rating period.

That Answer to ring me was a joke and not serious, but since to me people takes everything serious.
Anyway I do think that such messages, as Bill message should be sent by email and not on chess chat page, also I do not know who is Bill Glestos, he did not say anything about him.

eclectic
13-08-2008, 09:58 PM
That Answer to ring me was a joke and not serious, but since to me people takes everything serious.
Anyway I do think that such messages, as Bill message should be sent by email and not on chess chat page, also I do not know who is Bill Glestos, he did not say anything about him.

you needed to put a ;) after the thank you in the message where you left your phone number

Bill Gletsos
14-08-2008, 01:41 AM
What is the deadline for tournaments to be sent to the state rating officer. This should be published and strictly enforced. Currently, I understand it to be when the tournament finishes, hence a publishing date of say 5-7 days later so that Bill only does it once. Remember that the state officer should be given a few business days to deal with their paperwork. I think strict rules and enforcement might be required, whatever they may be.How a State goes about collecting their events for rating is up to each State Rating Officer.

The State Rating Officers are aware of the timetable I set them for submitting events up to the time of publication.

Kings of chess
14-08-2008, 01:52 AM
Is this discussion still about the SPO, or has it spun off on a 'ratings' tangent and could be put into another thread ?

Limited number of Surfers Paradise Open T-shirts will be printed out. If someone would like to pre-order one please let me know.
Price and design will be posted by Friday.
Colours available; Red, Blue, Black and White.

For more visit: www.kingsofchess.biz

Kings of chess
14-08-2008, 02:18 AM
A problem best solved by simply referring to her as the highest-rated active female.



No-one would take such a rating seriously and it is exactly to stop such nonsense (and milder forms of the same) that players without a ! or !! are not listed in the Top lists.



This would result in a great loss of predictive effectiveness for the system.

It's the prerogative of event organisers to seed players out of rating order if they wish to in a case where a player is inactive and they think someone else deserves higher standing.

As I saw that you have signature: Support the Olympic team.
Our club had a discussion to implement late payment fees, who enters after 25 August shall pay $10 extra and these $10 will be contributed to the Olympic team with name of the person who has been charged for the late fees.
Is that in spirit of Olympic donation campaign or not?

www.kingsofchess.biz

MichaelBaron
14-08-2008, 02:48 AM
As I saw that you have signature: Support the Olympic team.
Our club had a discussion to implement late payment fees, who enters after 25 August shall pay $10 extra and these $10 will be contributed to the Olympic team with name of the person who has been charged for the late fees.
Is that in spirit of Olympic donation campaign or not?

www.kingsofchess.biz


Donation has been defined as: a VOLUNTARY gift (as of money or service or ideas) made to some worthwhile cause :doh:

To follow your logic trafic fines and taxes could also be called donations :)

CameronD
14-08-2008, 07:08 AM
As I saw that you have signature: Support the Olympic team.
Our club had a discussion to implement late payment fees, who enters after 25 August shall pay $10 extra and these $10 will be contributed to the Olympic team with name of the person who has been charged for the late fees.
Is that in spirit of Olympic donation campaign or not?

www.kingsofchess.biz

Zkings of chess would be making the donation, not the player.

I thought the 25th was the deadline.

Kings of chess
14-08-2008, 07:21 AM
Zkings of chess would be making the donation, not the player.

I thought the 25th was the deadline.

Main reason we put 25/08/2008 as deadline is to enable us to prepare everything and start on time and do it everything proper way for live games.

Kevin Bonham
14-08-2008, 11:01 PM
As I saw that you have signature: Support the Olympic team.
Our club had a discussion to implement late payment fees, who enters after 25 August shall pay $10 extra and these $10 will be contributed to the Olympic team with name of the person who has been charged for the late fees.
Is that in spirit of Olympic donation campaign or not?

That is an excellent idea and I am very pleased to hear about it!

(Actually makes me wish I had come up with something like that for my own weekender. ;) )

Kings of chess
14-08-2008, 11:38 PM
That is an excellent idea and I am very pleased to hear about it!

(Actually makes me wish I had come up with something like that for my own weekender. ;) )

Excellent, looks to me like aprooved.
Problem, for us, is that we can not say to the chess player( I mean I do invite them to play in our tournament), well you did not register on time, we have to charge you $10 extra and mostlikely player is going to start to argue, but if we all impose this rule of $10 or $20 as late payment fees goes to Olympic team contribution (even next Olympics) and that player name who is paying late entry fees will appear on the contribution list for Olympic team, my opinoion is that player will stay with no choice: please contribute to chess or say NO!
I am sure that many orgainser have closed their eyes to the players who did have registered on the day, I mean without charging them extra $10 or $20.
I hope that other organiser will agree with this option.
Thanks for positive opinion Kevin.

Kings of chess
15-08-2008, 12:36 AM
Limited number of Surfers Paradise Open T-shirts will be printed out. If someone would like to pre-order one please let me know.
Price and design will be posted by Friday.
Colours available; Red, Blue, Black and White.

For more visit: www.kingsofchess.biz

Each T-shirt will cost $25.00.
Ordered 50 T-shirts and already sold 25, 15 buyers are players from overseas, 5 from Japan, 3 from Poland and 7 from USA.

MichaelBaron
15-08-2008, 01:08 AM
Problem, for us, is that we can not say to the chess player( I mean I do invite them to play in our tournament), well you did not register on time, we have to charge you $10 extra and mostlikely player is going to start to argue, but if we all impose this rule of $10 or $20 as late payment fees goes to Olympic team contribution (even next Olympics) and that player name who is paying late entry fees will appear on the contribution list for Olympic team, my opinoion is that player will stay with no choice: please contribute to chess or say NO!
.


Where is the logic? I still do not see it as a donation. If there is a compulsory late entry fee.. what is the point of arguing with it?

Please contribute to chess or say no? Sounds like blackmail to me! It is up to the organizers whether to charge the late entry fee or not (subject to the late entry fee being advertised in the tournaments' promotional materials from the very start). If I want to channel my funds towars the Aus Olymic team...i can do so out of my good will. If i have no interest in making such a donation, i do not really care how you are going to call my late entry fee :)

Kings of chess
15-08-2008, 05:47 AM
Where is the logic? I still do not see it as a donation. If there is a compulsory late entry fee.. what is the point of arguing with it?

Please contribute to chess or say no? Sounds like blackmail to me! It is up to the organizers whether to charge the late entry fee or not (subject to the late entry fee being advertised in the tournaments' promotional materials from the very start). If I want to channel my funds towars the Aus Olymic team...i can do so out of my good will. If i have no interest in making such a donation, i do not really care how you are going to call my late entry fee :)

It does look like blackmail, but not so much like if you charge someone late fees and organiser cashed the fees. It is not about our tournament so important, but small tournaments are the problem where organisers are happy to get people even with entries on the day.

I am not worry one way or other way but, at our last tourament Broadbeach Cup, we have received 22 Entries on the day and coursed me delay of 40 minutes.

Anyway it was just an idea.

Garrett
15-08-2008, 06:27 AM
Limited number of Surfers Paradise Open T-shirts will be printed out. If someone would like to pre-order one please let me know.
Price and design will be posted by Friday.
Colours available; Red, Blue, Black and White.

For more visit: www.kingsofchess.biz

Hi Amir

Are they nice quality T-shirts ?

I would like to pre-order a black one and a red one.

Sizes vary between manufacturers but I imagine I would like size XXL if available.

Cheers
Garrett

Kings of chess
15-08-2008, 12:03 PM
Hi Amir

Are they nice quality T-shirts ?

I would like to pre-order a black one and a red one.

Sizes vary between manufacturers but I imagine I would like size XXL if available.

Cheers
Garrett

Hi Garett,

Quality? Printing company is a supplier, they making for my business shirts to and Quality is good.
I have placed the order for another 25 shirts today including your shirts. We will get them just on time.
Amir

Garrett
15-08-2008, 05:16 PM
Thanks Amir.

Kings of chess
16-08-2008, 08:03 PM
PLEASE NOTE: This is a Myer Tan Grand Prix tournament 5th Class ( Grand Prix points available only in Open section )

For the first time in Australia, live games will be transmitted with MONROI on 10 panels *( 20 players games). For sure will be not boring for public as they can see live: Top 10 games.

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Kings of chess
16-08-2008, 09:29 PM
For the first time in Australia, live games will be transmitted with MONROI on 10 panels *( 20 players games). For sure will be not boring for public as they can see live: Top 10 games.

For more visit: www.kingsofchess.biz

Latest entry; WIM Narelle Szuveges (VIC) FIDE 1841

Kings of chess
17-08-2008, 04:06 AM
For the first time in Australia, live games will be transmitted with MONROI on 10 panels *( 20 players games). For sure will be not boring for public as they can see live: Top 10 games.

For more visit: www.kingsofchess.biz
Latest Entries:
WIM Narelle Szuveges (VIC) FIDE 1841,
Giang Nguyen (SA) FIDE 2127

Kings of chess
17-08-2008, 04:42 AM
For the first time in Australia, live games will be transmitted with MONROI on 10 panels *( 20 players games). For sure will be not boring for public as they can see live: Top 10 games.

For more visit: www.kingsofchess.biz

2008 Surfers Paradise Open - FIDE
List of Players
No Name Feder Rtg Loc Title Sex

1. Antic, Dejan Serb 2482 2476 gm male
2. Solomon, Stephen J QLD 2478 2441 im male
3. Smerdon, David C ACT 2461 2463 im male
4. Johansen, Darryl K VIC 2452 2423 gm male
5. Ghane, Shoojat Iran 2415 gm male
6. Froehlich, Peter QLD 2362 2352 im male
7. Ly, Moulthun QLD 2340 2345 male
8. Sales, Jesse Noel NSW 2330 2307 fm male
9. Dragicevic, Domagoj VIC 2224 2125 male
10. Caoili, Arianne B QLD 2154 2170 wim female
11. Nguyen, Giang SA 2127 2121 female
12. Nakauchi, Gene QLD 2093 2020 fm male
13. Mastilovic, Rajko QLD 2085 2128 male
14. Brown, Andrew ACT 2013 1925 male
15. Muller, Jonas QLD 1976 1679 male
16. Cunanan, Kimberly Jane PHI 1971 1961 female
17. Jule, Alexandra QLD 1931 1786 wim female
18. Goundar, Sanmogam Fiji 1916 1839 male
19. Jule, Sebastian QLD 1904 1635 male
20. Grigg, Sam QLD 1892 1783 male
21. Szuveges, Narelle S VIC 1841 1711 wim female
22. Stahnke, Alexander QLD 1807 1605 male
23. Lester, George E QLD 1799 1776 male
24. Guo, Emma ACT 1732 1683 female
25. Anton, Sarah VIC 1681 1458 female
26. Naderlou, Fatemeh Iran 1647 female
27. Thomas, Brian QLD 1880 male
28. Williams, Douglas QLD 1800 male
29. Liu, Yi QLD 1684 male
30. Chelebichanin, Nenad QLD 1666 male
31. Karibasic, Amir QLD 1450 male
32. De Vere, Cameron QLD 1427 male
33. Cervenjak, Mark QLD 1286 male
34. Simmonds, Leteisha QLD 1162 female

2008 Surfers Paradise Under 2000
List of Players
No Name Feder Rtg Loc Title

1. Wongwichit, Phachara QLD 1949
2. Lovejoy, David QLD 1882
3. Alkin, John QLD 1681
4. Stokes, Mark C QLD 1581
5. Duffin, Mike QLD 1563
6. Kingston, Joe QLD 1559
7. Stahnke, Axel QLD 1554
8. Ivanov, Nikola VIC 1460
9. O'Flynn, Alexander QLD 1432
10. Muller, Hans-Peter QLD 1316
11. Miles, Alex QLD 1105
12. Lapitan, Daniel QLD 985
13. Karibasic, Sabin QLD 897
14. Gray, Callum QLD 877
15. Cervenjak, Matthew QLD 738
16. Karibasic, Melanie QLD 550
17. Coric, Branko QLD
18. Gosiang Ann, Kriss PHI
19. Gosiang T, Nicol PHI
20. Mainwood, Samuel QLD
21. Miguel L., Roel PHI
22. Rosalan, Kenneth PHI

2008 Surfers Paradise FUN Group
List of Players
No Name Feder Rtg Loc Club

1. Stahnke, Mercy QLD Adult-Ashmore
2. Schuch, Breeahana QLD Junior-Isle of Capry
3. Hickey, Pamela QLD Adult-McDowal
4. Hickey, Garry QLD Adult-McDowal
5. Hickey, Sarah QLD Junior-McDowal
6. Zhang, Rai QLD Junior-Varsity Lakes
7. Zhang, Yu QLD Junior-Varsity Lakes
8. Rosenov Junior, QLD Junior-Nerang
9. Vieira, Chris QLD Adult-Satfford
10. Bini, Don QLD Adult

Total 66 players / Provisionaly registered additional 12 players, names will be announced soon.

Kings of chess
17-08-2008, 06:47 PM
For the first time in Australia, live games will be transmitted with MONROI on 10 panels *( 20 players games). For sure will be not boring for public as they can see live: Top 10 games.

For more visit: www.kingsofchess.biz

Latest Entry: Mehmedalija Dizdarevic (VIC) FIDE 2055

I have to thank Victorian players for great support.

Kings of chess
18-08-2008, 08:43 PM
Latest Entry: Mehmedalija Dizdarevic (VIC) FIDE 2055

I have to thank Victorian players for great support.

I am picking up Grandmaster Darryl Johansen on Thursday, 28/08/2008 from Gold Coast Airport in Coolangatta at 8.40 PM.
If anyone else is coming in the same plane : Flight from Melbourne (Jetstar,JQ448), please let me know as we could provide transport.

Kings of chess
19-08-2008, 10:55 PM
Please ensure that this event is submitted to the CAQ Ratings Officer Pat Byrom immediately after it finiishes so that he can process it and forward it to me on the 31st August for inclusion in the 1st September ACF ratings.

Hello Starwars man,
Do you need Open division which is FIDE rated also to be submitted before 01 September or only under 2ooo division?
Amir

CameronD
19-08-2008, 10:58 PM
Hello Starwars man,
Do you need Open division which is FIDE rated also to be submitted before 01 September or only under 2ooo division?
Amir

The open sectioned should be ACF and FIDE rated.

Bill Gletsos
19-08-2008, 10:58 PM
Hello Starwars man,
Do you need Open division which is FIDE rated also to be submitted before 01 September or only under 2ooo division?
AmirBoth.

Kings of chess
19-08-2008, 11:09 PM
Both.

Thanks Bill,
i think you are very smart man.
Charles Zworestine is Chief Arbiter and we going to have Internet connection available at the Venue, he will be able to email all back up files instantly.
Regards
Amir

Bill Gletsos
19-08-2008, 11:15 PM
Thanks Bill,
i think you are very smart man.
Charles Zworestine is Chief Arbiter and we going to have Internet connection available at the Venue, he will be able to email all back up files instantly.
Regards
AmirYes, Charles had advised me he would do that late last week.

Bill Gletsos
19-08-2008, 11:15 PM
The open sectioned should be ACF and FIDE rated.Yes it is an ACF requirement that all Australian FIDE rated events must be ACF rated.

Kings of chess
19-08-2008, 11:21 PM
Yes it is an ACF requirement that all Australian FIDE rated events must be ACF rated.

Hi Bill,
does that mean we have to pay triple fees? I mean to CAQ, ACF and FIDE?
Regards,
Amir

Bill Gletsos
19-08-2008, 11:46 PM
Hi Bill,
does that mean we have to pay triple fees? I mean to CAQ, ACF and FIDE?
Regards,
AmirWell you must pay ACF and FIDE fees.
The ACF will bill you the FIDE fee once the ACF has been billed by FIDE.

I believe the CAQ fee includes the ACF fee.
Hopefully a CAQ person can give a definitive answer as to whether it does or not.

Kings of chess
20-08-2008, 07:02 PM
We live in a world of commercialism, If the advertisement of her entry increases sponsorship, entries and spectators, then it can only be great for Kings of Chess and chess and should be pushed more. She is the best rated female in the country (34th overall)

Maybe the world is twisted and has wrong priorities,but chess needs to survive in the environment, otherwise it will continue to slowly decline.

GOLD COAST Weather:
What a beautiful day today. And see next couple of days:

This week in Gold Coast
Thursday : 22°C
Friday : 21°C
Saturday : 19°C
Sunday : 20°C
Monday : 21°C
Tuesday : 21°C
Wednesday : 20°C

Kings of chess
21-08-2008, 02:22 AM
GOLD COAST Weather:
What a beautiful day today. And see next couple of days:

This week in Gold Coast
Thursday : 22°C
Friday : 21°C
Saturday : 19°C
Sunday : 20°C
Monday : 21°C
Tuesday : 21°C
Wednesday : 20°C

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Kings of chess
22-08-2008, 04:07 AM
For new information visit our refershed webpage, also you can see see our shirt design: www.kingsofchess.biz

Grandmaster Dejan Antic has decided to go back to Serbia on 28/08/2008 (for Family reason) and wait there on his permanent Visa application results.
He will be not able to compete in Surfers Paradise Open 2008.

Kings of chess
22-08-2008, 10:44 PM
GOLD COAST Weather:
What a beautiful day today. And see next couple of days:

This week in Gold Coast
Thursday : 22°C
Friday : 21°C
Saturday : 19°C
Sunday : 20°C
Monday : 21°C
Tuesday : 21°C
Wednesday : 20°C

Winter is gone on the Gold Coast. Nights are nice and warm, not se freezing as it was last week.
We invite anyone who comes earlier or stays longer on the Gold Coast to visit our Club at the new location right on the beach. At the same Venue we had a Surfers Paradise Open 2007 and Broadbeach Cup.
All our club members are excited with the new venue with nice balcony and Ocean View. For more info visit our website.

Kings of chess
23-08-2008, 07:37 PM
Winter is gone on the Gold Coast. Nights are nice and warm, not se freezing as it was last week.
We invite anyone who comes earlier or stays longer on the Gold Coast to visit our Club at the new location right on the beach. At the same Venue we had a Surfers Paradise Open 2007 and Broadbeach Cup.
All our club members are excited with the new venue with nice balcony and Ocean View. For more info visit our website.

Gold Coast Weather
Extended Forecast Detailed Forecast Current Conditions Radar
Wind Rain Humid Min Max
SUN Mostly Sunny. Cool. Breezy. 28 km/h
S - 62% 10 19
MON High Level Clouds. Cool. 20 km/h
SE - 67% 12 19
TUE Partly Cloudy. Cool. 17 km/h
NNE - 61% 12 21
WED Showers Late. Mostly Sunny. Cool. 16 km/h
N 1mm
(35%) 68% 14 21
THU Passing Showers. Mostly Cloudy. Cool. 23 km/h
W 4mm
(50%) 76% 14 19
FRI Sunny. Cool. 22 km/h
SSW - 69% 11 20
SAT Drizzle. Broken Clouds. Cool. 4 km/h
ESE 1mm
(30%) 58% 13 20

Adamski
23-08-2008, 10:15 PM
Grandmaster Dejan Antic has decided to go back to Serbia on 28/08/2008 (for Family reason) and wait there on his permanent Visa application results.
He will be not able to compete in Surfers Paradise Open 2008.We all hope that Dejan's perm visa application will finally be granted and he and his family will be able to settle in Sydney.

eclectic
23-08-2008, 10:19 PM
Grandmaster Dejan Antic has decided to go back to Serbia on 28/08/2008 (for Family reason) and wait there on his permanent Visa application results.
He will be not able to compete in Surfers Paradise Open 2008.

any chance alexei shirov can fly in as a last minute replacement and also do that best game judging "in situ"? :uhoh: :eek:

Kings of chess
24-08-2008, 02:12 AM
any chance alexei shirov can fly in as a last minute replacement and also do that best game judging "in situ"? :uhoh: :eek:

Unfortunately, Tal Memorial tournament is a favourite tournament of Grandmaster Shirov.

CameronD
24-08-2008, 12:32 PM
Hi

Being up here at Burleigh for holidays this weekend. Weather is like a cool summer. Amazing.

Kings of chess
24-08-2008, 01:08 PM
Hi

Being up here at Burleigh for holidays this weekend. Weather is like a cool summer. Amazing.

Sunday, 24/08/2008
Today is a day, you can just wish, easy 22-24C. I am going to shot some photos on the beach.

Kings of chess
24-08-2008, 04:31 PM
Hi

Being up here at Burleigh for holidays this weekend. Weather is like a cool summer. Amazing.

Latest strong entry in Paradise (FIDE ) section :
Raul Samar (NSW)
FIDE Rating 2263

Kings of chess
24-08-2008, 09:35 PM
Hi

Being up here at Burleigh for holidays this weekend. Weather is like a cool summer. Amazing.

Latest Entry : Avalon Harris Pepper (NSW) 2483

Bill Gletsos
24-08-2008, 09:54 PM
Latest Entry : Avalon Harris Pepper (NSW) 2483Where is that 2483 rating coming from as there is no such player on the FIDE list?

The only Avalon Harris-Pepper on the ACF list is an unrated 11 year old from QLD.

Kings of chess
25-08-2008, 04:13 AM
For new information visit our refershed webpage, also you can see see our shirt design: www.kingsofchess.biz

Gold Coast Weather Forecast:
MON Morning Clouds. Cool. 21 km/h
SE - 64% 12 19
TUE Mostly Sunny. Cool. 15 km/h
N - 75% 13 21
WED A Few Showers. Afternoon Clouds. Cool. 16 km/h
NNW 2mm
(37%) 80% 14 21
THU A Few Showers. Mostly Cloudy. Cool. 13 km/h
SE 2mm
(42%) 78% 14 21
FRI Scattered Showers. Morning Clouds. Cool. 14 km/h
SSE 3mm
(47%) 79% 14 18
SAT Afternoon Clouds. Cool. 12 km/h
ENE - 79% 14 19
SUN Light Rain Late. Partly Sunny. Cool. 14 km/h
N 1mm
(32%) 80% 15 22

Kings of chess
25-08-2008, 07:16 AM
Where is that 2483 rating coming from as there is no such player on the FIDE list?

The only Avalon Harris-Pepper on the ACF list is an unrated 11 year old from QLD.

My apologie, I put the Post code in stead of ACF rating.

Kings of chess
25-08-2008, 03:22 PM
Gold Coast Weather Forecast:
MON Morning Clouds. Cool. 21 km/h
SE - 64% 12 19
TUE Mostly Sunny. Cool. 15 km/h
N - 75% 13 21
WED A Few Showers. Afternoon Clouds. Cool. 16 km/h
NNW 2mm
(37%) 80% 14 21
THU A Few Showers. Mostly Cloudy. Cool. 13 km/h
SE 2mm
(42%) 78% 14 21
FRI Scattered Showers. Morning Clouds. Cool. 14 km/h
SSE 3mm
(47%) 79% 14 18
SAT Afternoon Clouds. Cool. 12 km/h
ENE - 79% 14 19
SUN Light Rain Late. Partly Sunny. Cool. 14 km/h
N 1mm
(32%) 80% 15 22


We are reaching the number over 80 Entries soon.

Kings of chess
25-08-2008, 06:35 PM
We are reaching the number over 80 Entries soon.

Attention! Achtung! Attentzione!
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Kings of chess
25-08-2008, 08:13 PM
Attention! Achtung! Attentzione!
"Kings of chess" chess club has received the biggest sponsorship since our existence. We are proud to announce" Bendigo Bank " as mayor sponsor for Surfers Paradise Open 2008 and "Kings of chess" chess club.
Thanks to Bendigo Bank.http://www.kingsofchess.biz/Bendigo bank Logo.jpg

Another strong player entry : FM Nik Stawski (AUS) FIDE 2059

Kings of chess
27-08-2008, 03:44 AM
Another strong player entry : FM Nik Stawski (AUS) FIDE 2059

Over 90 players registered so far. Registration and payments exended until last day.

Kings of chess
27-08-2008, 08:35 PM
Over 90 players registered so far. Registration and payments exended until last day.

Latest entry: Sally Yu FIDE 1765

I would like to say thanks to all chesschat members for great support for advertising Surfers Paradise Open 2008. I hope you are going to enjoy live games transmission by MONROI trough our website; www.kingsofchess.biz
I do apologise to anyone if has been offended by my writting. All I have done and I am doing is just for better future of chess. One way or other way, we cannot make everyone happy, but we did our best.

Our target is to reach 100 players + for Surfers Paradise open and I think we are on the way.

Registration is still on, until last minute. Welcome!

Garvinator
27-08-2008, 08:44 PM
Registration is still on, until last minute. Welcome!
What does last minute mean? Please clarify.

Ivanchuk_Fan
31-08-2008, 01:57 PM
After 5 rounds, Smerdon is in the lead on 4.5/5. In equal second place on 4/5 is Arianne Caoili (beat Johansen) and Gene Nakauchi (beat Dragicevic). On 3.5/5 is Stephen Solomon (beat Stawski), Jonas Muller (beat Nguyen) and Peter Froehlich (lost to Smerdon).

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Garvinator
31-08-2008, 07:43 PM
No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total 1 2 3 4 5 6

1 Smerdon, David C ACT 2461 2463 5.5 0:D 8:W 13:W 11:W 2:W 6:W
2 Froehlich, Peter QLD 2362 2352 4.5 17:W 12:W 5:D 4:W 1:L 8:W
3 Solomon, Stephen J QLD 2478 2441 4.5 18:W 6:W 4:L 5:D 11:W 7:W
4 Dragicevic, Domagoj VIC 2224 2125 4 16:W 15:W 3:W 2:L 7:L 14:W
5 Johansen, Darryl K VIC 2452 2423 4 14:W 7:W 2:D 3:D 6:L 12:W
6 Caoili, Arianne B QLD 2154 2170 4 20:W 3:L 16:W 12:W 5:W 1:L
7 Nakauchi, Gene QLD 2093 2020 4 24:W 5:L 22:W 19:W 4:W 3:L
8 Muller, Jonas QLD 1976 1679 3.5 10:D 1:L 23:W 17:W 9:W 2:L
9 Nguyen, Giang SA 2127 2121 3.5 19:L 23:W 17:D 10:W 8:L 16:W
10 Liu, Yi QLD 1684 3.5 8:D 11:L 20:W 9:L 17:W 19:W
11 Stawski, Nik V QLD 2059 1935 3 0:D 10:W 19:W 1:L 3:L 13:D
12 Jule, Alexandra QLD 1931 1786 3 21:W 2:L 15:W 6:L 19:W 5:L
13 Sonter, Matthew QLD 2175 2005 3 22:W 19:L 1:L 20:W 16:D 11:D
14 Jule, Sebastian QLD 1904 1635 3 5:L 22:L 21:W 18:W 15:W 4:L
15 Cervenjak, Mark QLD 1286 2.5 0:W 4:L 12:L 23:W 14:L 18:D
16 Szuveges, Narelle S VIC 1841 1711 2.5 4:L 21:W 6:L 22:W 13:D 9:L
17 Grigg, Sam QLD 1892 1783 2.5 2:L 24:W 9:D 8:L 10:L 20:W
18 Goundar, Sanmogam Fiji 1916 1839 2.5 3:L 20:L 24:W 14:L 21:W 15:D
19 Guo, Emma ACT 1732 1683 2 9:W 13:W 11:L 7:L 12:L 10:L
20 Yu, Sally VIC 1765 1609 2 6:L 18:W 10:L 13:L 22:W 17:L
21 De Vere, Cameron QLD 1427 2 12:L 16:L 14:L 24:W 18:L 23:W
22 Lester, George E QLD 1799 1776 1.5 13:L 14:W 7:L 16:L 20:L 24:D
23 Simmonds, Leteisha QLD 1162 1 0:D 9:L 8:L 15:L 24:D 21:L
24 Williams, Douglas QLD 1800 1 7:L 17:L 18:L 21:L 23:D 22:D

Garvinator
31-08-2008, 07:44 PM
No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total 1 2 3 4 5 6

1 Wongwichit, Phachara QLD 1949 6 24:W 36:W 43:W 6:W 5:W 7:W
2 Duffin, Mike QLD 1563 5 25:W 29:W 26:W 22:W 10:D 5:D
3 Leggett, Brandon QLD 1268 5 41:W 5:L 33:W 26:W 22:W 10:W
4 McCarthy, Oliver QLD 868 5 43:L 49:W 51:W 36:W 18:W 16:W
5 Chelebichanin, Nenad QLD 1666 4.5 15:W 3:W 11:W 9:W 1:L 2:D
6 O'Flynn, Alexander QLD 1432 4.5 31:W 37:W 17:W 1:L 14:W 8:D
7 Ford, Daniel QLD 1526 4.5 16:W 39:W 9:D 18:W 11:W 1:L
8 Elkington, Derek QLD 1643 4.5 23:L 44:W 21:W 24:W 20:W 6:D
9 Stahnke, Alexander QLD 1605 4 33:W 51:W 7:D 5:L 17:W 13:D
10 Stokes, Mark C QLD 1581 4 35:W 27:W 18:D 32:W 2:D 3:L
11 Sretenovic, Laz QLD 1534 4 44:W 23:W 5:L 25:W 7:L 24:W
12 Al Zaher, Louay QLD 1606 4 28:L 30:W 15:W 14:L 23:W 25:W
13 Muller, Hans-Peter QLD 1316 4 38:W 22:L 28:W 23:W 16:D 9:D
14 Lapitan, Daniel QLD 985 4 22:L 38:W 46:W 12:W 6:L 27:W
15 Winston, Brent QLD 948 4 5:L 41:W 12:L 40:W 37:W 22:W
16 Cervenjak, Matthew QLD 738 3.5 7:L 34:W 29:W 43:+ 13:D 4:L
17 Alkin, John QLD 1681 3.5 52:W 21:D 6:L 29:W 9:L 34:W
18 Ivanov, Nikola VIC 1460 3.5 42:W 46:W 10:D 7:L 4:L 35:W
19 Stahnke, Axel QLD 1554 3.5 26:L 42:W 23:L 21:W 28:W 20:D
20 Jack, Martin QLD 1044 3.5 49:W 43:L 40:W 37:W 8:L 19:D
21 Peck, Robbie QLD 1220 3.5 47:W 17:D 8:L 19:L 45:W 32:W
22 Cashman, Michael QLD 1754 3 14:W 13:W 32:W 2:L 3:L 15:L
23 Solomon, Anthony QLD 899 3 8:W 11:L 19:W 13:L 12:L 33:W
24 Ringrose, Jonathan QLD 1013 3 1:L 31:W 39:W 8:L 38:W 11:L
25 Gray, Callum QLD 877 3 2:L 50:W 27:W 11:L 36:W 12:L
26 Toda, Luke QLD 814 3 19:W 45:W 2:L 3:L 27:L 39:W
27 Miles, Alex QLD 1105 3 53:W 10:L 25:L 42:W 26:W 14:L
28 Karibasic, Sabin QLD 897 3 12:W 32:L 13:L 39:W 19:L 38:W
29 Ringrose, Kyle QLD 1028 3 50:W 2:L 16:L 17:L 40:W 41:W
30 Bargo, Peter-John QLD 809 3 32:L 12:L 41:W 34:L 46:W 37:W
31 Pyper, Matthew QLD 540 3 6:L 24:L 49:L 53:W 47:W 36:W
32 Stewart, Craig A QLD 1553 2.5 30:W 28:W 22:L 10:L 33:D 21:L
33 Foster, Allan QLD 889 2.5 9:L 48:W 3:L 47:W 32:D 23:L
34 Mulholland, Phillip QLD 1117 2.5 37:L 16:L 45:W 30:W 35:D 17:L
35 Leggett, Callum QLD 881 2.5 10:L 53:W 36:L 46:W 34:D 18:L
36 Maclennan, Henry QLD 1294 2 40:W 1:L 35:W 4:L 25:L 31:L
37 Hoare, Josh QLD 2 34:W 6:L 52:W 20:L 15:L 30:L
38 Huband-Lint, Kees QLD 475 2 13:L 14:L 48:W 52:+ 24:L 28:L
39 Toda, Yamato QLD 227 2 0:W 7:L 24:L 28:L 42:W 26:L
40 Solomon, Rachael QLD 344 2 36:L 0:W 20:L 15:L 29:L 47:W
41 Angel, Roman QLD 2 3:L 15:L 30:L 48:W 53:W 29:L
42 Karibasic, Melanie QLD 550 2 18:L 19:L 53:W 27:L 39:L 45:W
43 Kingston, Joe QLD 1559 2 4:W 20:W 1:L 16:- 0: 0:
44 Rogers, Jim QLD 772 2 11:L 8:L 47:L 45:L 48:W 46:W
45 Haron, Peter QLD 1213 1.5 0:D 26:L 34:L 44:W 21:L 42:L
46 Harris-Pepper, Avalon QLD 1 0:W 18:L 14:L 35:L 30:L 44:L
47 Dimmock, Scott QLD 1 21:L 52:L 44:W 33:L 31:L 40:L
48 Seto-Payne, Julian QLD 1 51:L 33:L 38:L 41:L 44:L 53:W
49 Soo, Lachlan QLD 1 20:L 4:L 31:W 0: 0: 0:
50 Weate, Sean QLD 1 29:L 25:L 0:W 0: 0: 0:
51 Soul, David S NSW 1047 1 48:W 9:L 4:L 0: 0: 0:
52 Bay, William QLD 967 1 17:L 47:W 37:L 38:- 0: 0:
53 Leggett, Taylor QLD 0 27:L 35:L 42:L 31:L 41:L 48:L

Garvinator
31-08-2008, 07:46 PM
In the second division, looks like the field did not sort well. Those that came equal 2nd seem to have only really gotten there because they did not play Phachara, where those in equal 5th did play Phachara.

Capablanca-Fan
31-08-2008, 08:17 PM
No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total 1 2 3 4 5 6

1 Smerdon, David C ACT 2461 2463 5.5 0:D 8:W 13:W 11:W 2:W 6:W
2 Froehlich, Peter QLD 2362 2352 4.5 17:W 12:W 5:D 4:W 1:L 8:W
3 Solomon, Stephen J QLD 2478 2441 4.5 18:W 6:W 4:L 5:D 11:W 7:W
D

Froelich should have beaten Smerdon, whose K-side attack looked desperate while his centre and K-side were being demolished. Solomon played the Budapest, a first for him AFAIK, to beat Nakauchi, presumably because the latter played into a bad line. Still, looks like Smurf and Solo should be on form for the Olympiad.

Ivanchuk_Fan
31-08-2008, 08:17 PM
Will the games be available for download, or will they be available in Ozbase?

Btw, who won the Brilliancy Prize?

Solo
31-08-2008, 09:59 PM
It was a great tournament thanks to the organisers, and very friendly too. The brilliancy prize will be judged mid October by Shirov. Smurf's game vs Stawski will go close, but hopefully there will be a lot of entries from the U2000 also! I have played the Budapest rarely all through my career, last time against Samar at SIO which was also an easy win! Gene has beaten me a couple of times recently in the Nimzo, and also plays the Marshall Gambit very well! As David mentioned in his excellent speech, Jonas Muller had a great tournament and is playing extremely well! Also Yi Liu; I wish them and all the juniors well at the World Juniors.

To top it off, after the prizegiving Darryl and I were just in time to watch St Kilda grab 4th:) :)

Capablanca-Fan
31-08-2008, 11:37 PM
The brilliancy prize will be judged mid October by Shirov. Smurf's game vs Stawski will go close,
Yes, some nice tactics there:
Stawski–Smerdon
1.f4 g6 2.Nf3 Bg7 3.e4 c5 4.Bc4 e6 5.Nc3 Ne7 6.d4 cxd4 7.Nxd4 a6 8.Be3 b5 9.Bb3 Bb7 10.a3 Nbc6 11.O-O Na5 12.f5 Nxb3 13.cxb3 gxf5 14.exf5 Rg8 15.f6 Bh6! 16.Rf3 Bxe3+ 17.Rxe3 Rxg2+ 18.Kf1 Qc7 19.Rh3 Qf4 20.Nf3 Nf5 21.Ne2 Ne3 22.Ke1 Qxf3! 23.Rxh7 Nc2+! 24.Qxc2 Qf2 25.Kd1 Qf1+ 26.0:1 0-1


I have played the Budapest rarely all through my career, last time against Samar at SIO which was also an easy win! Gene has beaten me a couple of times recently in the Nimzo, and also plays the Marshall Gambit very well!
Certainly a very dangerous opponent, but in the latest Nakauchi–Solomon:

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e5 3.dxe5 Ng4 4.Bf4 Nc6 5.Nf3 Bb4 6.Nc3 Qe7 7.Qd5 f6 8.exf6 Bxc3+ 9.bxc3 Nxf6 10.Qd3 d6 11.h3 O-O 12.Bh2 Ne4 13.e3 Bf5 14.Qd5+ Kh8 15.Rc1 Rae8 16.Bg1 Bg6 17.Qb5 Nc5 18.Rd1 Qf6 19.Qb2 Be4 20.Nd4 Ne5 21.Qd2 Ncd3+ 22.Bxd3 Nxd3+ 23.Kf1 c5 24.Nb5 Qe6 25.Na3 d5 26.cxd5 Qa6 27.c4 Qxa3 28.f3 Qa4 29.Bh2 Nb2 30.Kf2 Nxd1 31.Rxd1 Qxc4 32.d6 Bc6 33.Kg1 Qe6 34.e4 Rf7 35.Qc2 b6 36.Qe2 h6 37.Qa6 Qg6 38.Qe2 Ref8 39.Kh1 Qe6 40.Kg1 c4 41.Qd2 Qg6 42.Be5 Rxf3 43.d7 Rd3 44.Qe2 Bxd7 45.Rxd3 cxd3 46.Qxd3 Bc6 47.Qd4 Bxe4 48.Bxg7 Qxg7 49.Qxe4 b5 50.Kh2 Qf6 51.Qd5 b4 52.Qa5 Qd6+ 53.Kg1 Qb6+ 0-1

Garrett
01-09-2008, 07:31 AM
As David mentioned in his excellent speech, Jonas Muller had a great tournament and is playing extremely well!

Looks like Jonas's rating has shot up by about 200 points and is now over 1900.

Good work Jonas :clap:

Kings of chess
07-09-2008, 12:42 PM
Looks like Jonas's rating has shot up by about 200 points and is now over 1900.

Good work Jonas :clap:

Here is a very nice tournament report by IA Charles Zworestine who did amazing job: www.kingsofchess.biz/2008 Surfers report.pdf

Basil
07-09-2008, 06:58 PM
It was a good report, wasn't it? Charles' generally are.

Kings of chess
09-09-2008, 04:32 AM
Looks like Jonas's rating has shot up by about 200 points and is now over 1900.

Good work Jonas :clap:

Hi Garett,
I have observed all players with Monroi PCMs and found that you simple have finessy for electronic. It was delight to watch how simple you recorded your game on Personal chess managers even better than Graemes kids who using them for long time.
Of course I have to say that Gene Nakauchi is an amazing kid who does not give up on Monroi until last moves.
:clap:

Kings of chess
10-09-2008, 07:03 PM
Hi Garett,
I have observed all players with Monroi PCMs and found that you simple have finessy for electronic. It was delight to watch how simple you recorded your game on Personal chess managers even better than Graemes kids who using them for long time.
Of course I have to say that Gene Nakauchi is an amazing kid who does not give up on Monroi until last moves.
:clap:

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Also if any organiser would like to purchase Brand New Monroi kit including licence or any player would like to get personal chess manager, please contact me by email: doors01@bigpond.net.au or on Mob 0414 673228.
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Kings of chess
10-09-2008, 11:58 PM
Will the games be available for download, or will they be available in Ozbase?

Btw, who won the Brilliancy Prize?

Players who have applied for Bendigo Bank Brilliancy Prize in amount of $200 are:
Intenational Master David Smerdon 2461( vs FM Nick Stawski 2059)
Giang Ngyen 2127 ( vs Yi Liu 1684)
Nenad Chellebichanin 1666 ( vs Alex Stahnke - 1606)
Melanie Karibasic 550 ( vs Peter Haron - 1213)
Josh Hoare (unrated) ( vs Phillip Mullholland - 1117)
Brent Winston (985) ( vs Michael Cashman 1784 )

Winner will be decided by GM Alexei Shirov between 12-18 September 2008.

Kings of chess
11-09-2008, 10:17 PM
Players who have applied for Bendigo Bank Brilliancy Prize in amount of $200 are:
Intenational Master David Smerdon 2461( vs FM Nick Stawski 2059)
Giang Ngyen 2127 ( vs Yi Liu 1684)
Nenad Chellebichanin 1666 ( vs Alex Stahnke - 1606)
Melanie Karibasic 550 ( vs Peter Haron - 1213)
Josh Hoare (unrated) ( vs Phillip Mullholland - 1117)
Brent Winston (985) ( vs Michael Cashman 1784 )

Winner will be decided by GM Alexei Shirov between 12-18 September 2008.

Sebastian Jule did submit his game against Cameron de Vere for the Brilliancy prize but the game has just a cheap trick, not sure if the game will be included in the package for Brilliancy prize.

Kings of chess
11-09-2008, 10:54 PM
Players who have applied for Bendigo Bank Brilliancy Prize in amount of $200 are:
Intenational Master David Smerdon 2461( vs FM Nick Stawski 2059)
Giang Ngyen 2127 ( vs Yi Liu 1684)
Nenad Chellebichanin 1666 ( vs Alex Stahnke - 1606)
Melanie Karibasic 550 ( vs Peter Haron - 1213)
Josh Hoare (unrated) ( vs Phillip Mullholland - 1117)
Brent Winston (985) ( vs Michael Cashman 1784 )

Winner will be decided by GM Alexei Shirov between 12-18 September 2008.

Just received email from GM Shirov that he is going to decide about the Best Brilliancy game or move latest on Saturday night, 13/09/2008.

Kings of chess
12-09-2008, 07:22 PM
Players who have applied for Bendigo Bank Brilliancy Prize in amount of $200 are:
Intenational Master David Smerdon 2461( vs FM Nick Stawski 2059)
Giang Ngyen 2127 ( vs Yi Liu 1684)
Nenad Chellebichanin 1666 ( vs Alex Stahnke - 1606)
Melanie Karibasic 550 ( vs Peter Haron - 1213)
Josh Hoare (unrated) ( vs Phillip Mullholland - 1117)
Brent Winston (985) ( vs Michael Cashman 1784 )

Winner will be decided by GM Alexei Shirov between 12-18 September 2008.
GM Shirov has decided about the best game for Brilliancy Prize in amount of $200.
First player who gets correct answer, who is the winner will get Free entry into Surfers Pardise Open 2009, which will be run on 9 rounds FIDE or weekend tournament configuration, so is open to anyone from rating 0 to over 2400.

Basil
12-09-2008, 07:27 PM
I guess Nenad. Not seeing the games makes it a tad difficult!

CameronD
12-09-2008, 07:39 PM
I'll guess smerdon

Kings of chess
12-09-2008, 07:42 PM
I'll guess smerdon
Sorry Cameron, but wrong answer!

Kings of chess
12-09-2008, 07:48 PM
I guess Nenad. Not seeing the games makes it a tad difficult!
Sorry Mr.Duggan, but wrong answer. Nenad would like to demonstrate brilliancy this time, but not good enough as Shirov said.

Kings of chess
12-09-2008, 08:01 PM
I guess Nenad. Not seeing the games makes it a tad difficult!
Sorrry, I should say that Shirov has chosen only 4 games, which are available at www.kingsofchess.biz/games1.html to be seen.

Basil
12-09-2008, 08:14 PM
Sorrry, I should say that Shirov has chosen only 4 games, which are available at www.kingsofchess.biz/games1.html to be seen.
OK thanks. All the games were enjoyable to play through. I'm picking Stawski - Smerdon. Great threats/ counter threats.

Ian Rout
12-09-2008, 08:20 PM
I'd go for Nguyen-Liu on a quick play through.

Kings of chess
12-09-2008, 08:24 PM
OK thanks. All the games were enjoyable to play through. I'm picking Stawski - Smerdon. Great threats/ counter threats.
Hi Gunner,
Shirov has given memorable words to the player who has won $200 Bendigo Bank Briliancy prize and I believe that this player will be proud to receive such comments. I wish I could get this compliments, but unfortunately I was just an Orgainser.

Kings of chess
12-09-2008, 09:00 PM
I'd go for Nguyen-Liu on a quick play through.

Hi Ian you the winner for SPO 2009 free entry, if you can not make it, sponsor someone else with free entry.
Congratulation to Giang Nguyen ( FIDE 2127)

Here is the original message from GM Shirov:


Dear Amir,

My decision goes to the game Nguyen-Liu. White has played an inspired attack that reminded me of old chess times when the computers didn't exist. Yet I have to mention computers because Black could actually play 20...Bb7 instead of 20..e3 after which he is probably winning. But Mikhail Tal used to say ´There are two types of sacrifices - the correct ones and mine!' The moves 17.Ng4 and especially 19. Be4 (ok, computer states it's better 19.Nf6+ with even chances but who cares) were definitely like those of Tal. And mistakes in human chess are inevitable anyway. Congratulations to Mrs. Nguyen for a wild attack!
Amir, please keep continuing to promote chess in Austalia!
Alexei Shirov

Basil
12-09-2008, 09:06 PM
Amir, please keep continuing to promote chess in Austalia!

I'd like to second that. A fine tournament with fine promotion :clap:

Ian Rout
12-09-2008, 09:52 PM
Hi Ian you the winner for SPO 2009 free entry, if you can not make it, sponsor someone else with free entry.
Congratulation to Giang Nguyen ( FIDE 2127)

Here is the original message from GM Shirov:


Dear Amir,

My decision goes to the game Nguyen-Liu. White has played an inspired attack that reminded me of old chess times when the computers didn't exist. Yet I have to mention computers because Black could actually play 20...Bb7 instead of 20..e3 after which he is probably winning. But Mikhail Tal used to say ´There are two types of sacrifices - the correct ones and mine!' The moves 17.Ng4 and especially 19. Be4 (ok, computer states it's better 19.Nf6+ with even chances but who cares) were definitely like those of Tal. And mistakes in human chess are inevitable anyway. Congratulations to Mrs. Nguyen for a wild attack!
Amir, please keep continuing to promote chess in Austalia!
Alexei Shirov

Thanks Amir, I'll try to make it - I was looking at coming this year but I couldn't sort other things out in time. It seems like it was a really good event and looking to be even bigger next year. Congratulations to Giang Nguyen on her win on top of her score in the tournament.

Garrett
13-09-2008, 06:38 AM
Congratulations to Giang.

Thanks Amir for organising Mr Shirov to judge the brilliancy prize.

I thought the tournament was great and you did an excellent job organising the tournament and sponsorship. The venue was very good too.

The monroi devices are very easy to use, quicker and more accurate - especially when you are in time trouble. Also it's great that interested persons can follow the action on the net.

Hope to see everyone next year.

Cheers
Garrett.

Kings of chess
23-09-2008, 03:18 PM
Congratulations to Giang.

Thanks Amir for organising Mr Shirov to judge the brilliancy prize.

I thought the tournament was great and you did an excellent job organising the tournament and sponsorship. The venue was very good too.

The monroi devices are very easy to use, quicker and more accurate - especially when you are in time trouble. Also it's great that interested persons can follow the action on the net.

Hope to see everyone next year.

Cheers
Garrett.

Thanks again to everyone for great support and nice words.
I would like to announce that SURFERS PARADISE OPEN 2009 will be played in 9 Rounds FIDE, so dot let your chance out to achieve the norm
and important message : Dates will be changed. We are searching for best possible time.
We are going to have special Guest as a Top player, which will be announced soon.

Garrett
23-09-2008, 05:16 PM
sounds fantastic Amir

Keep in mind that the zonal is on the coast next year in June, and the two biggies in Sydney/Canberra are at Easter.

Maybe the Sept-Oct school holidays would be one option for time.

Good luck !
Cheers
Garrett.

Duff McKagan
23-09-2008, 09:27 PM
Hi Ian you the winner for SPO 2009 free entry, if you can not make it, sponsor someone else with free entry.
Congratulation to Giang Nguyen ( FIDE 2127)

Here is the original message from GM Shirov:


Dear Amir,

My decision goes to the game Nguyen-Liu. White has played an inspired attack that reminded me of old chess times when the computers didn't exist. Yet I have to mention computers because Black could actually play 20...Bb7 instead of 20..e3 after which he is probably winning. But Mikhail Tal used to say ´There are two types of sacrifices - the correct ones and mine!' The moves 17.Ng4 and especially 19. Be4 (ok, computer states it's better 19.Nf6+ with even chances but who cares) were definitely like those of Tal. And mistakes in human chess are inevitable anyway. Congratulations to Mrs. Nguyen for a wild attack!
Amir, please keep continuing to promote chess in Austalia!
Alexei Shirov

LOL, who relies on the computer? After 20...Bb7 21.Rxe4 with Rh1 coming, you're gone Shirov! Well done to Giang on the brilliancy prize :)

Kings of chess
24-09-2008, 08:34 PM
LOL, who relies on the computer? After 20...Bb7 21.Rxe4 with Rh1 coming, you're gone Shirov! Well done to Giang on the brilliancy prize :)

I think you used the first chess computer in the world for game analysing.
But anyway, as GM Alexei Shirov said humans can make mistakes, as you did.
Anyway, nice "Welcome to Australia" words from you???

Duff McKagan
25-09-2008, 06:40 AM
Au contrare my dear fellow. What i'm saying is that this is simply shoddy. Looking at the game, logic tells you that if White can post a rook on the h-file, Black is dead. But after 20...Bb7 if White does it immediately then the reply ...e3+ is quite annoying (White would have to move out of check in such a way that they could not recapture on h1 with a rook, i.e. no longer able to renew the threat of mate). White could consider dxe4 but then how is the rook going to the h-file when it is tied to defending the e-pawn? The right way is Rxe4 because the other rook can go to h1. Black may well take the rook on e4, but how are they to defend the mate?
The point is that some GMs rely on their computers far too much, and this game deserved better judgement.

Kings of chess
26-09-2008, 07:19 PM
Au contrare my dear fellow. What i'm saying is that this is simply shoddy. Looking at the game, logic tells you that if White can post a rook on the h-file, Black is dead. But after 20...Bb7 if White does it immediately then the reply ...e3+ is quite annoying (White would have to move out of check in such a way that they could not recapture on h1 with a rook, i.e. no longer able to renew the threat of mate). White could consider dxe4 but then how is the rook going to the h-file when it is tied to defending the e-pawn? The right way is Rxe4 because the other rook can go to h1. Black may well take the rook on e4, but how are they to defend the mate?
The point is that some GMs rely on their computers far too much, and this game deserved better judgement.

After Rxe4, black reply is g6 (according Fritz11), but not taking rook on e4.
I do not know you mate but I am not sure why you are not using computer before you announce such variations.

Kevin Bonham
26-09-2008, 07:39 PM
The point is that some GMs rely on their computers far too much

Or without letting them look at the position for long enough. Enter in the position after ...Bb7 and a computer might initially think black is winning but if given a few minutes it will say white is at least +2 (at least if it's any good) and it turns out white is probably + a fair bit more than that.


After Rxe4, black reply is g6 (according Fritz11), but not taking rook on e4.

Indeed, but 21...g6 doesn't work, it is refuted by 22.Qh4! (not Qh3 when black wins by playing ...Bxg5 then the great blocking counter-sac ...Bh4!!)

I wonder if Shirov just wrote the wrong move because 20...g6 is far more dangerous than 20...Bb7 and I can't find a win for white after 20...g6.

Duff McKagan
27-09-2008, 02:37 AM
After Rxe4, black reply is g6 (according Fritz11), but not taking rook on e4.

And what does 21...g6 do? I drop back, mate is still looming. Let's say 22.Qh4. If you try to kick me with 22...Nf5 then I will do 23.Nh6+ and rip it then back to the mate on the h-file.


I do not know you mate but I am not sure why you are not using computer before you announce such variations.

What do you want? Computer analysis that you can do at home or real analysis? Personally I would much rather have Shirov have a real look at this game rather than just stumble out of bed, take a swig of vodka and let Fritz do a quick 5 second job while he freshens up. Because that's what it looked like.


I wonder if Shirov just wrote the wrong move because 20...g6 is far more dangerous than 20...Bb7 and I can't find a win for white after 20...g6.

Haha I was laughing when i saw the move ...g6 displayed here but it appears there is a point to it on move 20... If 20...g6 21.Qh4 Nf3 attacks g5 a third time with tempo and enables what you were saying with the ...Bh4 defence. Fair point, 20...g6 looks like it will hold.

Like i said earlier, it's all very sloppy. I was expecting some nice analysis to this game but this is... what we've got here...
But enough of this...

Kevin Bonham
27-09-2008, 08:32 PM
Haha I was laughing when i saw the move ...g6 displayed here but it appears there is a point to it on move 20...

Yes. 20...g6 (tentatively !) and 20...Bb7?? 21.Rxe4! g6 are worlds apart because Rxe4 kills the ...Nf3 threat by removing its protecting pawn, and for this reason 20...Bb7 is a critical waste of a tempo.

Kings of chess
28-09-2008, 07:49 AM
And what does 21...g6 do? I drop back, mate is still looming. Let's say 22.Qh4. If you try to kick me with 22...Nf5 then I will do 23.Nh6+ and rip it then back to the mate on the h-file.



What do you want? Computer analysis that you can do at home or real analysis? Personally I would much rather have Shirov have a real look at this game rather than just stumble out of bed, take a swig of vodka and let Fritz do a quick 5 second job while he freshens up. Because that's what it looked like.



Haha I was laughing when i saw the move ...g6 displayed here but it appears there is a point to it on move 20... If 20...g6 21.Qh4 Nf3 attacks g5 a third time with tempo and enables what you were saying with the ...Bh4 defence. Fair point, 20...g6 looks like it will hold.

Like i said earlier, it's all very sloppy. I was expecting some nice analysis to this game but this is... what we've got here...
But enough of this...

OK, even you have right about wrong move Bb7, we did not look from Shirov to writte about the moves, than to decide about best (brilliant) game or move. He has chosen best game what we could see after your analysing.

On other hand your words are not appropriate and to talk and write something in your style, you are not top 10 in the world as Shirov is. You have to prove your name, but Shirov does not have to and as Shirov said humans can make mistakes, so as we know who is Shirov, we can forgive him and there is no way that I am going to discusss this matter with Shirov, as I think it is not Important. We had a different target and we have achieved it. Shirov did this job volunatarly, no charge.
To make you happy, we are going to promote you from Comrade Zukowski to General Zukowski and ask you to be our Brilliancy Judge for the next Surfers Paradise Open 2009. Obviously you are going to say how much you going to pay me. Shirov did not ask this Question.
On the end, who is Alexei Shirov, public knows and who is General Zukowski, will be a joke for public?

Vlad
28-09-2008, 01:01 PM
Comrade Zukovsky is a decent player of a FM level.

Everybody has a right to raise questions, especially given that Alexei Shirov did not do his job properly. He is very often writes on the Russian chess chat, and if I will mention about this episode, he will be ashamed. I am obviously not going to do that.

However, there is a very valuable lesson here for organizers. When you are asking a well known player to do something for you for free, this is what you gonna get. Obviously the fact that the briliancy prize is judged by Alexei adds something to the event, but quality wise it will be much better if you actually seriously ask Comrade Zukovsky. And I am pretty sure he will not ask money for that.

P.S. BTW, it is already the second lesson. The first one was to divide prizes in a fair way.:lol:

Garvinator
28-09-2008, 07:05 PM
P.S. BTW, it is already the second lesson. The first one was to divide prizes in a fair way.:lol:Isnt it the third lesson ;) there was something mentioned about entry fees as well ;)

Desmond
29-09-2008, 11:18 AM
Actually, I think the first lesson here is that one cannot please all the armchair critics. I think Amir did an excellent job and I hope that the criticism does not discourage him from doing it again in the future.

Kings of chess
02-10-2008, 05:36 PM
We are going to present free ICC / Internet chess club memberships(http://www.chessclub.com) for 1 Year / or extensions to existing accounts to 4-6 players http://www.kingsofchess.biz/icc.jpg.

Players who have received free ICC memberships for 6 or 12 months:
1. Hennry Maclennan 6 months
2. Sanmogam Goundar 12 months ( FIJI
strong player - extra 6 months for travel from far away and sportsmanship)
3. Leitisha Simmonds 12 months ( Bravest and Best Female Junior in Australia under 12 with lowest
rating in top section)
4. Sally Yu 6 months
5. FM Nick Stawski 6 months
6. Nikola Ivanov 6 months

Some accounts enabled today, and Sanmogam Goundar and Leteisha Simmonds account will be enabled tomorow.

Garrett
02-10-2008, 05:39 PM
good stuff !

Congrats to the winners and thanks again for organising such a good tourney Amir.

cheers
Garrett.