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Denis_Jessop
12-10-2007, 03:21 PM
There is so far no thread for this event as the Tournament Organiser is, so I believe, not a poster on bulletin boards.

The website has been recently created and is at http://www.nswjcl.org.au/AustralianJunior/2008/index.htm.

The text on the home page says


The tournament will be held from the 13th January until the 25th January 2008 at Cranbrook School in Sydney's Bellevue Hill.

Entry is limited to players aged 17 and under as of 31/12/2007 (participants born on or after 01/01/1990).
Time Limits
October 9, 2007

The tournament time limits have now been added to the website (see "Details").
Official Website
October 5, 2007

Please be advised that this is the OFFICIAL WEBSITE. One draft website was leaked prior to this and information on that site was incorrect. The entry form located on this site has the correct details and correct entry fees.
Arbiters Confirmed
September 6, 2007

The list of arbiters has been confirmed for the tournament:
Tournament Director: Richard Gastineau-Hills
Chief Arbiter: IA Charles Zworestine
Deputy Arbiter: IA Roland Eime
Assistant Arbiter: Nick Chernih
Website Released
September 1, 2007

Entries are invited for the 2008 Australian Junior Championships please download and print the entry form (available in both PDF and DOC formats) via the links at the top right-hand corner of this page and post with payment to the address on the form.


Full information is available via the links on the home page.

DJ

Kevin Bonham
13-01-2008, 11:48 AM
Live games link is http://www.nswjcl.org.au/AustralianJunior/2008/livegames.htm

If all is working OK there should be action on that front around 1:30 or shortly after.

Schedule:


Sunday 13 January 12.45pm Registration
1.15pm Opening Ceremony
1.30pm Championship - Round 1
Monday 14 January 1.00pm Championship - Round 2
Tuesday 15 January 1.00pm Championship - Round 3
Wednesday 16 January 1.00pm Championship - Round 4
Thursday 17 January Championship Rest Day
10.00am Rapid Play Championships
Friday 18 January 1.00pm Championship - Round 5
Saturday 19 January 1.00pm Championship - Round 6
Sunday 20 January 1.00pm Championship - Round 7
Monday 21 January 1.00pm Championship - Round 8
Tuesday 22 January Championship Rest Day
10.00am Problem Solving Championships
1.00pm Lightning Championships
Wednesday 23 January 1.00pm Championship - Round 9
Thursday 24 January 1.00pm Championship - Round 10
Friday 25 January 11.00am Championship - Round 11
6.00pm Closing Ceremony, Presentation

Kruupy
13-01-2008, 12:09 PM
Good luck to the Tassie crew!!

Kevin Bonham
13-01-2008, 12:33 PM
Yes, Tassie is represented by Alastair Dyer, Jamie Briant, Owen Short, Kieren Davis, Kevin Hendrey and Vincent Horton.

No live action so far.

Kruupy
13-01-2008, 12:36 PM
is there a list of ratings for each player?

Kevin Bonham
13-01-2008, 12:41 PM
is there a list of ratings for each player?

I couldn't find one and I was a bit surprised by that as it is normal that when there is a list of the field, ratings are given with it.

Kruupy
13-01-2008, 12:43 PM
yes, i thought so too. Would have been nice to compair the ratings...

Kruupy
13-01-2008, 12:43 PM
still no games???

Kevin Bonham
13-01-2008, 12:52 PM
I'm not seeing anything but I'm not surprised if they're having problems getting it set up in view of the short turnaround from the Aus Champs to this tournament. (The DGTs would be the same ones used in the Champs).

Kruupy
13-01-2008, 12:53 PM
yeah fair enough.

MichaelBaron
13-01-2008, 01:22 PM
Good luck to the Tassie crew!!

They will need it ;)

Kruupy
14-01-2008, 03:28 PM
anybody know how many tassie juniors where selected from Hobart?

Capablanca-Fan
14-01-2008, 03:31 PM
anybody know how many tassie juniors where selected from Hobart?
Is there actually selection at all? I thought that anyone under 18 could play. I know that NZCF used to select a Kiwi to play (that's why I was 1st= in 1981), but this seems not to have happened for ages.

Kruupy
14-01-2008, 03:38 PM
Yes, after a little bit more research on my end I think your correct Jono in that there is no selection - my bad.

Denis_Jessop
14-01-2008, 09:32 PM
Is there actually selection at all? I thought that anyone under 18 could play. I know that NZCF used to select a Kiwi to play (that's why I was 1st= in 1981), but this seems not to have happened for ages.

That's right. There are no ACF selection qualifications - it's an Open event - and I don't know of any State ones. It is conceivable that a State Association might select players for the purposes of giving them financial assistance though I'm not aware of any such arrangements actually existing.

DJ

Kruupy
14-01-2008, 09:38 PM
KB, Do you know if what Denis_Jessop suggests happens in Tassie?

Kevin Bonham
14-01-2008, 11:00 PM
Not at the moment. We approve any entry for the nationals who we believe will be remotely competitive.

The TCA has, in the dim and distant past, offered financial assistance when it felt financial enough to do so. For the 1988 Australian Junior I was one of about a dozen who were subsidised, albeit only to the tune of $50, whereas more promising prospects received hundreds. I was rather disappointed by that amount at the time but the TCA's limited faith in my abilities was well and truly repaid by my poor performance in that tournament. (I did win a prize in the end, but it was rather less than $50).

At present those running the show in junior chess in Tasmania feel that money is better spent on improving the strength of players directly, eg through coaching opportunities like the recent Carlton Beach camp, so there is no subsidy program at present.

Owen Short and Jamie Briant are from down south, the other four are all from the north-west.

Haydn
15-01-2008, 06:25 PM
In WA, we do go through a selection process and offer financial support for selected players, in the order of $500 each.

pax
16-01-2008, 09:41 PM
Who is the Edward Naoumov chap?

And what's happened to Derek Yu? I had him down as a potential winner here.

Kevin Bonham
16-01-2008, 10:36 PM
Wild and woolly game involving Alastair Dyer, but Yi Yuan just got the better of him in the end; unusually this time it was Alastair who was material up fending off a wild attack.

Yuan-Dyer

1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. g3 Bc5 4. Bg2 O-O 5. d3 c6 6.
Nge2 d6 7. O-O Re8 8. a3 Nbd7 9. Na4 Bb6 10. Nxb6 axb6 11. f4 b5 12. h3 b4 13.
f5 bxa3 14. bxa3 d5 15. g4 dxe4 16. dxe4 Nc5 17. Qe1 Nfxe4 18. f6 Nxf6 19. Bg5
Ncd7 20. Kh1 h6 21. Bd2 Nf8 22. Rd1 Qe7 23. g5 hxg5 24. Bxg5 N8h7 25. Bh4 Rxa3
26. c3 Ra8 27. Be4 Qf8 28. Bxf6 Nxf6 29. Rxf6 gxf6 30. Qh4 f5 31. Rg1+ Qg7 32.
Rxg7+ Kxg7 33. Qg5+ Kf8 34. Qh6+ Ke7 35. Qh4+ Kd6 36. Qf6+ Kc5 37. Qxf7 Be6 38.
Qxb7 fxe4 39. Qb4+ Kd5 40. c4# 1-0

santeb72
19-01-2008, 01:33 PM
Probably been mentioned already in other threads but did people see the terrific story about Gene Nakauchi on the 7.30 report the other day. Fanastic. First I have heard off him.

Move 26 Ne5 in the game against Dalton was a great one to spot.




(7) Nakauchi,Gene - Dalton,Joshua [D52]
Australian Junior Under 18 Open Cranbrook (2.7), 14.01.2008

1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Nbd7 5.Nf3 c6 6.e3 Qa5 7.Nd2 dxc4 8.Bxf6 Nxf6 9.Nxc4 Qc7 10.Bd3 Be7 11.0-0 Bd7 12.Rc1 Rd8 13.Qe2 0-0 14.Nd5 Qb8 15.Ne5 Be8 16.Nxf6+ Bxf6 17.f4 g6 18.Rf3 Bg7 19.Rh3 f6 20.Nf3 Qd6 21.Qf2 Qd7 22.Qh4 Bh8 23.Bc4 Rf7 24.g4 Qd6 25.Kh1 Bd7 26.Ne5 Re7 27.Nxg6 Rf7 28.f5 Re8 29.Qh5 b5 30.Bb3 a5 31.a3 a4 32.Ba2 b4 33.axb4 Qxb4 34.Nxh8 Rfe7 35.fxe6 Bxe6 36.Bxe6+ Kxh8 37.Bf7 Rxf7 38.Qxf7 Qe7 39.Rxh7# 1-0

Capablanca-Fan
19-01-2008, 02:45 PM
(7) Nakauchi,Gene - Dalton,Joshua [D52]
Australian Junior Under 18 Open Cranbrook (2.7), 14.01.2008

1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Nbd7 5.Nf3 c6 6.e3 Qa5 7.Nd2 dxc4 8.Bxf6 Nxf6 9.Nxc4 Qc7 10.Bd3 Be7 11.0-0 Bd7 12.Rc1 Rd8 13.Qe2 0-0 14.Nd5 Qb8 15.Ne5 (are you sure this isn't meant to be 15. Ne4? It's just en prise here) 15... Be8 16.Nxf6+ (if the N were on d5, Nxe7+ is obvious) 16... Bxf6 17.f4 g6 18.Rf3 Bg7 19.Rh3 f6 20.Nf3 Qd6 21.Qf2 Qd7 22.Qh4 Bh8 23.Bc4 Rf7 24.g4 Qd6 25.Kh1 Bd7 26.Ne5 Re7 (right, the fP is pinned against the R) 27.Nxg6 Rf7 28.f5 Re8 29.Qh5 b5 30.Bb3 a5 31.a3 a4 32.Ba2 b4 33.axb4 Qxb4 34.Nxh8 Rfe7 35.fxe6 Bxe6 36.Bxe6+ Kxh8 37.Bf7 Rxf7 38.Qxf7 Qe7 39.Rxh7# 1-0

Basil
19-01-2008, 02:52 PM
I don't get 14. Nd5. Surely that simply drops a knight? Must be a transcription error.

Kevin Bonham
19-01-2008, 07:39 PM
Yes, I'm confident it was meant to be 14.Ne4 not 14.Nd5 as otherwise there were two enormous blunders one of which makes no sense at all. As the N captures on f6 a few moves later Ne4 is perfectly plausible.

Kevin Bonham
19-01-2008, 08:03 PM
For the lead, Yuan vs Wallis

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.Bxc6 dxc6 6.d3 Nd7 7.Nbd2 Be7 8.Nf1 Bf6 9.Ng3 h5 10.h4 Nc5 11.Be3 Ne6 12.Qd2 c5 13.Qc3 Nd4 14.Ng5 Qe7 15.0-0-0 g6 16.Qd2 Be6 17.Kb1 0-0-0 18.c3 Nc6 19.f4 Bg4 20.Rdf1 Bxg5 21.fxg5 Rd7 22.Rf6 Rhd8 23.Qf2 Be6 24.Bxc5 Qe8 25.Rd1 Rxd3 26.Rxd3 Rxd3 27.Kc2 Qd7 28.b3 Rd1 29.Bd4 Ra1 30.Kb2 exd4 31.Kxa1 dxc3 32.Qc2 Qd2 33.Kb1 Nd4 34.Qc1 Qd3+ 35.Ka1 Nc2+ 36.Kb1 Nb4+ 37.Ka1 Qd2 38.Qxd2 cxd2 39.Rf1 Bg4 40.Nf5 gxf5 41.exf5 d1Q+ 42.Rxd1 Bxd1 43.f6 Kd7 44.g4 Bxg4 0-1

Pretty convincing win really, white was struggling from fairly early on.

For the lead in the U12s, Stahnke - Matheson

1. c4 Nf6 2. Nc3 g6 3. Nf3 Bg7 4. g3 O-O 5. Bg2 d6
6. O-O e5 7. d3 Nc6 8. Rb1 a5 9. a3 Re8 10. b4 axb4 11. axb4 Ne7 12. Qb3 c6 13.
Ba3 Be6 14. Ng5 d5 15. Nxe6 fxe6 16. b5 Nf5 17. e3 d4 18. bxc6 dxc3 19. cxb7
Rb8 20. Qxc3 Qc7 21. Rb5 e4 22. dxe4 Nxe4 23. Qa5 Qxa5 24. Rxa5 Nd2 25. Rc1 Nb3
26. Ra8 Nxc1 27. Bxc1 Be5 28. Ba3 Bd6 29. g4 Bxa3 30. gxf5 Bd6 31. fxe6 Kf8 32.
Bd5 Ke7 33. Kg2 Rf8 34. e4 Rf4 35. h3 Rbf8 36. Ra7 Bc5 37. f3 Bd6 38. Ra2 Be5
39. Ra3 g5 40. c5 h5 41. Bc4 g4 42. Be2 gxh3+ 43. Kxh3 Rg8 44. Rd3 Rd8 45. Rd5
Bc7 46. Rxh5 Bb8 draw

In a very tricky position Stahnke missed 25.Bc6 winning and Matheson returned the favour by missing 27...Nd6 which also wins. Moves 36 and 37 as given obviously don't make sense.

Not a good day for the stronger Tassie players with Dyer losing in 23 moves to Ikeda after a blunder and Vincent Horton messing up a drawn OCB ending after a game he had been better in to lose to an opponent rated 1200. However Jamie Briant drew with a 1400+ for the second day in a row.

Kevin Bonham
19-01-2008, 08:40 PM
Recording mistakes are not unusual and given the number of scoresheets that have to be entered in it's not surprising that errors happen. Sometimes making one intelligible game out of two scoresheets can take a looooooong time, and the person who's entering the moves in isn't always an expert.

So I'm guessing the official site just had the wrong moves.

pax
21-01-2008, 06:37 PM
I see that just as Sally Yu seemed to be running away with the Girls title, Tamzin Oliver has stopped her with the black pieces. Yu, Oliver and Charmian Zhang are now level on 7/8. Oliver and hang are yet to play each other. The winner of that game will likely play off with Sally Yu for the title.

Denis_Jessop
22-01-2008, 07:33 PM
I see that just as Sally Yu seemed to be running away with the Girls title, Tamzin Oliver has stopped her with the black pieces. Yu, Oliver and Charmian Zhang are now level on 7/8. Oliver and hang are yet to play each other. The winner of that game will likely play off with Sally Yu for the title.


Pax, I think you mean Deborah Ng, not Charmian Zhang. Currently, Sally Yu and Deborah Ng are on 8 and Tamzin is on 7 but it is a 13-player round-robin and both Tamzin and Deborah, who are yet to meet, have had a bye while Sally has not. Sally has played both Deborah and Tamzin.

DJ

Bill Gletsos
22-01-2008, 08:29 PM
The incorrect moves in the game Stahnke - Matheson game are whites 36-39.

The correct moves (taken from the tournament bulletin #6) are show below:

1. c4 Nf6 2. Nc3 g6 3. Nf3 Bg7 4. g3 O-O 5. Bg2 d6 6. O-O e5 7. d3 Nc6 8. Rb1 a5 9. a3 Re8 10. b4 axb4 11. axb4 Ne7 12. Qb3 c6 13. Ba3 Be6 14. Ng5 d5 15. Nxe6 fxe6 16. b5 Nf5 17. e3 d4 18. bxc6 dxc3 19. cxb7 Rb8 20. Qxc3 Qc7 21. Rb5 e4 22. dxe4 Nxe4 23. Qa5 Qxa5 24. Rxa5 Nd2 25. Rc1 Nb3 26. Ra8 Nxc1 27. Bxc1 Be5 28. Ba3 Bd6 29. g4 Bxa3 30. gxf5 Bd6 31. fxe6 Kf8 32. Bd5 Ke7 33. Kg2 Rf8 34. e4 Rf4 35. h3 Rbf8 36. Ra2 Bc5 37. f3 Bd6 38. Re2 Be5 39. Re3 g5 40. c5 h5 41. Bc4 g4 42. Be2 gxh3+ 43. Kxh3 Rg8 44. Rd3 Rd8 45. Rd5 Bc7 46. Rxh5 Bb8 draw

pax
23-01-2008, 01:12 AM
Pax, I think you mean Deborah Ng, not Charmian Zhang. Currently, Sally Yu and Deborah Ng are on 8 and Tamzin is on 7 but it is a 13-player round-robin and both Tamzin and Deborah, who are yet to meet, have had a bye while Sally has not. Sally has played both Deborah and Tamzin.

DJ
Yes, I did mean Deborah. Apologies!

Tamzin lost in round nine, so it's down to two.

Denis_Jessop
23-01-2008, 07:42 PM
Yes, I did mean Deborah. Apologies!

Tamzin lost in round nine, so it's down to two.

It's all happening in the girls u18. Sally lost in round 11 to unrated Amy Brown of WA while Deborah and Tamzin both won. So now it's Deborah 10 and Sally and Tamzin 9. But Deborah and Tamzin finally play each other in round 12 while Sally has the bye so she is already really 10. Thus after round 12 we could have all three on 10 if Tamzin wins. Then the last round could be interesting as Sally has to play Shan-Shan Qiao who is a clear fourth and who beat Tamzin earlier.

DJ

Garvinator
23-01-2008, 07:46 PM
It's all happening in the girls u18. Sally lost in round 11 to unrated Amy Brown of WA while Deborah and Tamzin both won. So now it's Deborah 10 and Sally and Tamzin 9. But Deborah and Tamzin finally play each other in round 12 while Sally has the bye so she is already really 10. Thus after round 12 we could have all three on 10 if Tamzin wins. Then the last round could be interesting as Sally has to play Shan-Shan Qiao who is a clear fourth and who beat Tamzin earlier.

DJ
What happens with playoffs if all three tie for first?

Denis_Jessop
23-01-2008, 08:41 PM
What happens with playoffs if all three tie for first?

It's all a bit tortuous. The relevant By-law is By-law no. 3 and the relevant provisions are:


Resolution of Ties

5. The Play-off Procedures prescribed in By-law 7 of the By-laws for ACF
Tournaments do not apply to the ACF Junior Chess Championships, the overriding
principle in Junior Championships being to resolve any ties quickly so that
prize presentations may be made at a pre-arranged time.

5.1 Ties shall be resolved in the first instance by applying the Sum of
Progressive Scores System (SPS) including the Sum of Progressive Score Cuts
(SPSC), if necessary. A player's SPS involves use of the score that a player has
after the end of each round. These scores are added to form the SPS. SPSC is the
player's final SPS reduced by the tournament score of one or more rounds
starting with the first round.

5.2.1 If more than two players are tied for first place, paragraph 5.1 shall be
applied to reduce the number of tied players to two.

5.2.2 Those players shall participate in a play-off to resolve the tie
consistent with the principles in paragraph 5.3.

5.2.3 If, upon the application of paragraph 5.1 it is not possible to reduce the
number of players to two, the arbiter shall arrange a play-off among the
smallest number of players possible exceeding two, the play-off to be
consistent, as far as possible with the principles in paragraph 5.3.

5.3 Play-off Principles

5.3.1 The tied players shall play two games in which each player has 15 minutes
for the whole game in each game. Colours for the first game shall be drawn by
lot and shall be the opposite for the second game.

5.3.2 If the players are still tied, two games shall be played in which each
player has 5 minutes for the whole game in each game. Colours for each game
shall be consistent with those in paragraph 5.3.1.

5.3.3 If the tie is still not resolved a single game shall be played in which
White has 5 minutes and Black 4 minutes for the whole game, a draw for Black
being regarded as a win. Colours for this game shall be drawn by lot.



DJ

CameronD
23-01-2008, 08:46 PM
I despise the concept where classical tournament winners are decided by blitz and lightning tournaments.

If they must finish quickly, then I'd prefer them to share first place.

Garvinator
23-01-2008, 08:48 PM
It's all a bit tortuous. The relevant By-law is By-law no. 3 and the relevant provisions are:


5.1 Ties shall be resolved in the first instance by applying the Sum of
Progressive Scores System (SPS) including the Sum of Progressive Score Cuts
(SPSC), if necessary. A player's SPS involves use of the score that a player has after the end of each round. These scores are added to form the SPS. SPSC is the player's final SPS reduced by the tournament score of one or more rounds starting with the first round.

Hello Denis, I will admit that my previous question was being a bit cheeky as I recalled the regulations from Mt Buller with Suttor, Ly and Chow all tied on 9/11 in the Australian Junior.

I did recall that the tiebreak was Progressive. Was not sure if it had changed or not.

My thought is: is progressive really fair in a round robin as in the current situation for the Australian Under 18 Girls?

Capablanca-Fan
23-01-2008, 08:52 PM
I despise the concept where classical tournament winners are decided by blitz and lightning tournaments.
But even that is better than using these crass pseudo-mathematical contrivances called "tie-break systems".


If they must finish quickly, then I'd prefer them to share first place.
Nothing wrong with that.

dunwannapost
23-01-2008, 09:35 PM
Hello Denis, I will admit that my previous question was being a bit cheeky as I recalled the regulations from Mt Buller with Suttor, Ly and Chow all tied on 9/11 in the Australian Junior.

I did recall that the tiebreak was Progressive. Was not sure if it had changed or not.

My thought is: is progressive really fair in a round robin as in the current situation for the Australian Under 18 Girls?

I agree, but can someone please confirm what the tie break procedure is for this event?

As the standings are currently, the tie breaks are as follows:
Sally Yu 61
Deborah Ng 57
Tamzin Oliver 54

which means the order will not change if there is a three way tie for first.

Garvinator
23-01-2008, 09:57 PM
I agree, but can someone please confirm what the tie break procedure is for this event?

As the standings are currently, the tie breaks are as follows:
Sally Yu 61
Deborah Ng 57
Tamzin Oliver 54

which means the order will not change if there is a three way tie for first.
In the tie-breaks for the Aus Juniors, when there is a three or more way tie, only the top two players continue on to the playoff and everyone else is eliminated.

The theory for this would be that the top two players have met the strongest fields, hence justifying their place in the playoff.

But in the case of a round robin, this clearly would not be the case as everyone meets the same field.

A suspicion with no mathematical checking- those tie breaks would change if each of the players had met their same opposition in a different round order. Again, does this seem fair. Players being decided for the playoff based on the order they met opposition in a round robin?

Disclaimer- I could have this all wrong and will be corrected. If this is the case, then I retract everything said.

CameronD
23-01-2008, 10:05 PM
In the tie-breaks for the Aus Juniors, when there is a three or more way tie, only the top two players continue on to the playoff and everyone else is eliminated.

The theory for this would be that the top two players have met the strongest fields, hence justifying their place in the playoff.

But in the case of a round robin, this clearly would not be the case as everyone meets the same field.

A suspicion with no mathematical checking- those tie breaks would change if each of the players had met their same opposition in a different round order. Again, does this seem fair. Players being decided for the playoff based on the order they met opposition in a round robin?

Disclaimer- I could have this all wrong and will be corrected. If this is the case, then I retract everything said.


if their going to eliminate people on tie-break. Then why bother having a play-off at all.

Its good enough to eliminate third, but not second, I dont get that.

Just share first and everyone should be happy.

Desmond
23-01-2008, 10:10 PM
Personally, I think that if the title is shared, then it is less prestigious. I'd rather a 50-50 shot at the whole title than a guaranteed share of it.

pax
24-01-2008, 12:37 AM
Major titles are almost never shared. Playoffs or tiebreaks are a must (playoff preferred).

Sum of progressive scores is clearly a nonsense in a round robin. At least the organisers have had the sense to schedule the last round 2 hours early to allow some time for playoffs.

Denis_Jessop
24-01-2008, 07:04 PM
Junta Ikeda, the top seed, is the new Australian Junior Champion being 2 points clear with one round to go,

In the Girls' u18, Deborah Ng beat Tamzin Oliver in round 12 so Deborah leads with 11 followed by Sally Yu 10 and Tamzin Oliver and Shan-Shan Qiao on 9. Sally plays Shan-Shan in the last round. So now either Deborah wins or there will be a play-off for the title between Deborah and Sally. The most likely result seems to be that Deborah will win the title outright.

DJ

Kevin Bonham
25-01-2008, 09:06 PM
Last round was today but results do not appear to be up on the site - has anyone else seen them?

dunwannapost
25-01-2008, 10:56 PM
Last round was today but results do not appear to be up on the site - has anyone else seen them?
Results are up. I went to dinner after packing up the hall.

Kevin Bonham
25-01-2008, 11:18 PM
Thanks.

pax
26-01-2008, 12:02 AM
Any playoffs?

Brian_Jones
26-01-2008, 08:13 AM
Results are up. I went to dinner after packing up the hall.

Who won the age titles?

dunwannapost
26-01-2008, 09:23 AM
Who won the age titles?
In the playoffs:

Gene Nakauchi won U16 title giving Yi Yuan the U14 title
Harry Ruan won the U10 title
Peter Wallmueller won the U8 title
Kashish Christian won the Girls U10 giving Charlie-Rose MacLennan the U8 title

A summary will appear later tonight

Capablanca-Fan
26-01-2008, 01:41 PM
Personally, I think that if the title is shared, then it is less prestigious. I'd rather a 50-50 shot at the whole title than a guaranteed share of it.
Don't know about that.

Capablanca-Fan
26-01-2008, 02:12 PM
In the playoffs:

Gene Nakauchi won U16 title giving Yi Yuan the U14 title
Harry Ruan won the U10 title
Peter Wallmueller won the U8 title
Kashish Christian won the Girls U10 giving Charlie-Rose MacLennan the U8 title

A summary will appear later tonight
So no-one can win more than one of these age group titles? Stahnke U-12?

Bill Gletsos
26-01-2008, 02:23 PM
So no-one can win more than one of these age group titles? Stahnke U-12?Stanke did not win the u1U'.

Bill Gletsos
26-01-2008, 02:26 PM
Open Girls
Under 18 Junta Ikeda (ACT) Deborah Ng (NSW)
Under 16 Gene Nakauchi (QLD) Sally Yu (VIC)
Under 14 Yi Yuan (ACT) Megan Setiabudi (ACT)
Under 12 Laurence Matheson (VIC) Leteisha Simmonds (QLD)
Under 10 Harry Ruan (NSW) Kashish Christian (NSW)
Under 8 Peter Wallmueller (VIC) Charlie-Rose MacLennan (NSW)

Capablanca-Fan
26-01-2008, 02:29 PM
Open Girls
Under 18 Junta Ikeda (ACT) Deborah Ng (NSW)
Under 16 Gene Nakauchi (QLD) Sally Yu (VIC)
Under 14 Yi Yuan (ACT) Megan Setiabudi (ACT)
Under 12 Laurence Matheson (VIC) Leteisha Simmonds (QLD)
Under 10 Harry Ruan (NSW) Kashish Christian (NSW)
Under 8 Peter Wallmueller (VIC) Charlie-Rose MacLennan (NSW)

Thanx BG. So is it one tournament or separate ones for each age group?

Bill Gletsos
26-01-2008, 02:30 PM
Australian Junior Lightning Championships

Open Girls
Under 18 Junta Ikeda (ACT) Sally Yu (VIC)
Under 16 Zhigen Wilson Lin (VIC) Emma Guo (ACT)
Under 14 Eugene Schon (VIC) Miranda Webb-Liddle (VIC)
Under 12 Alexander Stahnke (QLD) Leteisha Simmonds (QLD)
Under 10 Anurag Sannidhanam (VIC) Grace Alvares (NSW)
Under 8 Anton Smirnov (NSW) Kashish Christian (NSW)
Australian Junior Rapid Play Championships

Open Girls
Under 18 Junta Ikeda (ACT) Sally Yu (VIC)
Under 16 Yi Yuan (ACT) Stephanie Ang (VIC)
Under 14 Gene Nakauchi (QLD) Emma Guo (ACT)
Under 12 Alexander Stahnke (QLD) Leteisha Simmonds (QLD)
Under 10 Anurag Sannidhanam (VIC) Tayla Wood (WA)
Under 8 Anton Smirnov (NSW) Kashish Christian (NSW)

Bill Gletsos
26-01-2008, 02:33 PM
Thanx BG. So is it one tournament or separate ones for each age group?The U18, U16 & U14 are one tournament and the U12, U10 and U8 are another.

However for the Lightning and Rapid they are all one tournament.

Capablanca-Fan
26-01-2008, 02:40 PM
The U18, U16 & U14 are one tournament and the U12, U10 and U8 are another.

However for the Lightning and Rapid they are all one tournament.
Thanx. Not sure about that method though. Swisses are notoriously inaccurate for the lower places.

dunwannapost
26-01-2008, 03:51 PM
The U18, U16 & U14 are one tournament and the U12, U10 and U8 are another.

However for the Lightning and Rapid they are all one tournament.
Lightning was split into U18 and U12 divisions.

Junta and Alexander won with 11/11 for the two divisions.

Bill Gletsos
26-01-2008, 04:03 PM
Lightning was split into U18 and U12 divisions.

Junta and Alexander won with 11/11 for the two divisions.Thanks for the correction.

dunwannapost
26-01-2008, 04:27 PM
Still unsure about problem solving. Awaiting an Email from Richard.

I know Chris Wallis won the U18 and Allen Setiabudi won the U16, but unsure of the rest

dunwannapost
26-01-2008, 05:14 PM
All games from the tournament have been added now.

Denis_Jessop
26-01-2008, 07:17 PM
Junta Ikeda won the u18 Open Championship, the u18 Lightning and the Rapid with scores of 10.5/11,11/11 and 6.5/7 respectively thus playing 29 games and dropping only two half-points. :clap:

DJ

dunwannapost
28-01-2008, 11:43 PM
Bulletin 11 has been posted on the website

peter_parr
04-02-2008, 01:01 PM
Regular reports during the Australian Junior appeared in the Sydney Morning Herald.

See

http://www.chessdiscountsales.com/news/newsindex.htm

Were the championships covered with regular reports by other newspapers around Australia?

Igor_Goldenberg
04-02-2008, 01:48 PM
Junta Ikeda won the u18 Open Championship, the u18 Lightning and the Rapid with scores of 10.5/11,11/11 and 6.5/7 respectively thus playing 29 games and dropping only two half-points. :clap:

DJ

That's impressive. Well done! :clap: :clap:

pax
04-02-2008, 04:37 PM
That's impressive. Well done! :clap: :clap:
Yes indeed. Let's hope that he takes Zhao's recent achievements as an inspiration :)