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Brian_Jones
19-09-2007, 11:56 AM
The 2008 Sydney International Open (SIO) is confirmed for 25-29 March 2008 at Parramatta Town Hall. Once again we expect a very strong field!

The 2008 Sydney International Challengers (SIC) is a new section for players rated U2000.

The SIO website is at http://www.chessaustralia.com.au/open/index.cfm

The 2008 Doeberl Cup will be held 20-24 March at Rydges Lakeside Hotel in Canberra. New website soon!

Brian_Jones
06-11-2007, 11:39 AM
The 2008 Sydney International Open (SIO) is confirmed for 25-29 March 2008 at Parramatta Town Hall. Once again we expect a very strong field!

The 2008 Sydney International Challengers (SIC) is a new section for players rated U2000.

The SIO website is at http://www.chessaustralia.com.au/open/index.cfm

The 2008 Doeberl Cup will be held 20-24 March at Rydges Lakeside Hotel in Canberra. New website soon!

2008 Doeberl Cup will be held at the Hellenic Club Woden.

Entries for SIO and Doeberl Cup starting to come in!

Brian_Jones
09-12-2007, 09:24 AM
New Zealand GM Murray Chandler will play in the 2008 Sydney International Open (SIO)!

Doeberl Cup website at www.doeberlcup.com.au

Denis_Jessop
09-12-2007, 10:20 AM
New Zealand GM Murray Chandler will play in the 2008 Sydney International Open (SIO)!

Doeberl Cup website at www.doeberlcup.com.au

And note that the Doeberl is now at the Hellenic Club, Woden Town Centre, not Rydges Lakeside.

DJ

Brian_Jones
23-01-2008, 12:22 PM
And note that the Doeberl is now at the Hellenic Club, Woden Town Centre. DJ

Yes, the Doeberl Cup (with its new 9 round Premier) will be held 20-24 March 2008. It will be immediately followed by the 2008 Sydney International Open (SIO) and Sydney International Challengers (SIC) 25-29 March at Parramatta Town Hall.

So far we have 45 entries for SIO/SIC including 10 GMs. We will limit the numbers again as we did in 2007 so please enter early to reserve your place!

The SIO website is at http://www.chessaustralia.com.au/index.cfm?site=open

The Bangkok Open will follow at the beginning of April. Look out for the exciting Chessbase feature shortly. :P

Tony_Chow
23-01-2008, 07:13 PM
Following the success of SIO 2007, it is pleasing to note the strong field of entrants for SIO 2008. From the website, there are 10 GM's, 8 IM's, 3 FM's, 1 WGM, 1 WIM and 1 WFM among the entrants. :clap:

I hope there will be a SIO 2009. In the unfortunate event that no one holds an Australian Chess Open for 2009, at least chess players can opt to play in the SIO if they choose to do so.

Brian_Jones
26-01-2008, 08:33 AM
GM Ian Rogers will provide live commentary (at the venue) throughout the 2008 SIO!

Brian_Jones
01-02-2008, 03:15 PM
Chessbase article at http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=4423

eclectic
01-02-2008, 10:10 PM
Rogers the defending champion at the Doeberl?

Haven't Chessbase or the article's author been informed of his retirement?

Zhao's new claim to our No 1 olympiad board should surely be a hint :rolleyes:

pax
01-02-2008, 11:18 PM
Rogers the defending champion at the Doeberl?

Haven't Chessbase or the article's author been informed of his retirement?

Zhao's new claim to our No 1 olympiad board should surely be a hint :rolleyes:

Which article were you reading? I was reading this one:

"To be held at the Hellenic Club in the Australian capital, Canberra, this edition of the Doeberl Cup will not see the return of defending champion, GM Ian Rogers, who retired from competitive chess in July last year. With Rogers out of the picture, this years event will definitely witness a new champion."

By the way, I submitted a profile of Rogers to Chessbase shortly after his retirement, but despite several promises, it was not published.

ER
02-02-2008, 12:46 AM
Whoever is responsible for this http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=4423 deserves congratulations! That's how you promote the game and its Australian scene!
Keep up the good work mate!
Cheers and good luck!

pax
02-02-2008, 02:57 PM
I seem to recall Edwin wrote a similar article for last year's SIO, and one suspects that may have played a big factor in the success of the event.

Brian_Jones
19-02-2008, 01:18 PM
American GM Varuzhan Akobian 2599 has confirmed his visa for Australia and will arrive in Sydney in mid-March! He is a serious chess player and intends to play in Canberra, Sydney and Bangkok (27 FIDE rated games in less than one month!).

Garrett
19-02-2008, 01:46 PM
American GM Varuzhan Akobian 2599 has confirmed his visa for Australia and will arrive in Sydney in mid-March! He is a serious chess player and intends to play in Canberra, Sydney and Bangkok (27 FIDE rated games in less than one month!).

yes - I have seen some of his video's on the net - they are quite instructive and informative. I really like them.

Brian_Jones
22-02-2008, 10:46 AM
I hear that chess may have some competition over Easter. :)

The 2008 Telstra Australian Swimming Championships (which are the trials for the Beijing Olympics) will take place 22-28 March at the Sydney Olympic Park Aquatic Centre.

I bet that the swimmers (and their parents) will get time off Work/School/College for this!

Brian_Jones
28-02-2008, 10:53 AM
Chinese GM Zhang Zhong (now FIDE 2617 and representing Singapore) is coming to Australia in March and will play both Doeberl Cup and Sydney International Open (SIO).

Two Chinese WGM are also expected to be here. Zhang Zhong's wife WGM Li Ruofan will play in Canberra and then return early to China. WGM Liu Shilan is visiting as an official representative of the Shenzhen ChessCircle and wants to discuss possible co-operation with junior clubs/players in Australia.

The organisers are hopeful that there will be many more Chinese players here in future years (if we get sufficient sponsorship and/or financial support from the chess community in Australia).

arosar
28-02-2008, 11:29 AM
You can name drop all want mate with these 2600's. I'm really hoping to see a 2700 pop in just for a visit.

AR

Brian_Jones
28-02-2008, 11:50 AM
You can name drop all want mate with these 2600's. I'm really hoping to see a 2700 pop in just for a visit.

AR

I've been looking hard in this list:

http://www.fide.com/ratings/topfed.phtml?ina=1&country=CHN

Where are the 2700+ players? Maybe Ni Hua will come next year!

Haven't received your donation yet Amiel.

$100 is all it takes to become a Friend of the Parramatta Chess Festival!

Trent Parker
28-02-2008, 02:32 PM
Chinese GM Zhang Zhong (now FIDE 2617 and representing Singapore) is coming to Australia in March and will play both Doeberl Cup and Sydney International Open (SIO).

Two Chinese WGM are also expected to be here. Zhang Zhong's wife WGM Li Ruofan will play in Canberra and then return early to China. WGM Liu Shilan is visiting as an official representative of the Shenzhen ChessCircle and wants to discuss possible co-operation with junior clubs/players in Australia.

The organisers are hopeful that there will be many more Chinese players here in future years (if we get sufficient sponsorship and/or financial support from the chess community in Australia).

Talking about chess and shenzhen....

My parents brought home a beautiful chess set made of wood and stone from shenzheng when they went on a trip to Hong Kong last year.

the intricate detail on the stone pieces are just mind boggling.

Anyhow.... lets get back on topic....

Brian will Lee be going to parra tonight? I'll Pay my SIC entry to him if he is.

Brian_Jones
28-02-2008, 03:07 PM
Brian will Lee be going to parra tonight? I'll Pay my SIC entry to him if he is.

Yes, Lee is going but pay me instead (I am going as well tonight!)

Brian_Jones
06-03-2008, 03:59 PM
Please note that the Closing Date for entry to the 2008 SIO is Friday 14 March. All monies must be paid by this date.

It appears unlikely that the field for the SIC will be strong enough to allow players to gain FIDE ratings. So please consider your section carefully. Enter the SIC if you are U2000 and want a chance to gain experience and/or win prizemoney. Otherwise upgrade to the SIO and play a strong FIDE-rated field!

Entries after 14 March may be accepted at the organisers discretion but will be subject to a late entry fee.

Australian players who pay by 14 March 2008 will be automaically entered in the draw for Round 1 and are not required to Register on the morning of the 25 March.

It looks almost certain that a record 10+ Grandmasters will play the 2008 SIO!

pax
07-03-2008, 10:05 PM
It appears unlikely that the field for the SIC will be strong enough to allow players to gain FIDE ratings. So please consider your section carefully. Enter the SIC if you are U2000 and want a chance to gain experience and/or win prizemoney. Otherwise upgrade to the SIO and play a strong FIDE-rated field!
Players moving from SIC to SIO would probably reduce the likelihood of norms in the SIO.

Denis_Jessop
08-03-2008, 10:33 AM
Players moving from SIC to SIO would probably reduce the likelihood of norms in the SIO.

It's starting to look that way in the Doeberl Cup Premier too.

DJ

pax
09-03-2008, 01:14 AM
It's starting to look that way in the Doeberl Cup Premier
Yes, the fields are understandably very similar.

Adamski
09-03-2008, 12:11 PM
I hear a rumour form a Parra linked player that none other than World Champoin Vishy Anand was going to be in Parramatta at some stage of the SIO. Can anyone substantiate this? Or was he pulling my leg??

I plan to visit the tournament on the Friday afternoon... maybe I'll see the WC??? (not the loo..)

Igor_Goldenberg
09-03-2008, 03:27 PM
I hear a rumour form a Parra linked player that none other than World Champoin Vishy Anand was going to be in Parramatta at some stage of the SIO. Can anyone substantiate this? Or was he pulling my leg??

I plan to visit the tournament on the Friday afternoon... maybe I'll see the WC??? (not the loo..)
Check your legs

Brian_Jones
11-03-2008, 02:15 PM
With no contribution from Chess Attack Pty Ltd this year, we need somebody to sponsor the SIO/SIC Junior prizes.

For SIO this is $250 x 2 = $500 plus medals. For SIC this is $100 x 2 = $200.

Any volunteers or bids?

patrick
25-03-2008, 10:14 AM
Can any one help,I read on this thread that...

"Australian players who pay by 14 March 2008 will be automaically entered in the draw for Round 1 and are not required to Register on the morning of the 25 March."

Does that apply to the SIC players as well?
The registration is at 12.30 and round 1 starts at 3:30PM.
So if your name is on the entry list your in round 1 and can arrive in the afternoon?

Leonid Sandler
25-03-2008, 07:42 PM
Victorian journey man Mehmedalia Dizdarevic drew with GM M.Chandler
Good effort indeed!Another minisensation was very close in board 2,sadly Hilton Bennett blundered and lost to 2008 Shipov(according to Ian Rogers) GM
V.Malahatko.Man draw was so close...

Leonid Sandler
25-03-2008, 09:10 PM
SIO is off to a flying start!Expecially impressive a very informative and professionaly done website www.chessaustralia.com.au with a lot of up to date info and would you believe already 7 games in database plus results in easy to read format,pairings, starting time of the rounds etc.From round one results its worth mentioning that after 7 straight win in Doeberl Cup Emma Guo was forced to accept a draw from highly fencied Domagoi Dragisevic.
Well done Emma!Round 2 is already showing some exciting match ups.
Our friend and Blog master Amiel is doing his usual terrific reporting!

pax
25-03-2008, 10:39 PM
I am delighted to see that IM Trevor Hay from WA is playing (sadly he lost rd 1 to Mike Canfell). Trevor represented Australia in 1964 and 1972 at the Olympiad, and shared the Australian Championship with Fuller in 1972 (he was Junior Champion in 1961).

Trevor has a very fine analytical ability, and is a marvellous teacher (I was privileged to study with him a few times). This might be his first competition at classical time controls in some decades.

Despite this formidable CV, he is listed on the website as "a player from WA". Could use a bit of work Brian!

MichaelBaron
26-03-2008, 12:35 AM
I clicked on the results page right now..but round 1 results and round 2 pairings do not seem to appear there...:hmm:

Kevin Bonham
26-03-2008, 12:53 AM
Despite this formidable CV, he is listed on the website as "a player from WA". Could use a bit of work Brian!

Indeed, this blast from the past deserves more recognition! But generally, the effort that has gone into saying something useful about so many players is a very good one.

Garvinator
26-03-2008, 12:58 AM
I clicked on the results page right now..but round 1 results and round 2 pairings do not seem to appear there...:hmm:
There not :hmm:

http://chess-results.com/Tnr11789.aspx?tnr=11789&art=2&rd=2&lan=1&datatyp=2&m=-1&wi=750

Sutek
26-03-2008, 05:39 AM
I am delighted to see that IM Trevor Hay from WA is playing (sadly he lost rd 1 to Mike Canfell).

Did Trevor tell you he was an IM?
Mike Canfell taught Greg so he can't be that bad.
I seem to remember Mike Canfell pushing GM Rogers to the limit last time they played.
I think he got a dose of the Glicko system after a long break.

pax
26-03-2008, 10:26 AM
Indeed, this blast from the past deserves more recognition! But generally, the effort that has gone into saying something useful about so many players is a very good one.
Absolutely. I'm sure the answer is simply that Brian didn't know - either that or Trevor wanted to keep a low profile!

pax
26-03-2008, 10:32 AM
Did Trevor tell you he was an IM?
No, but I thought I knew it. Turns out he is not listed as an IM on the FIDE web site, so perhaps I was mistaken. Regardless, he was certainly at least IM strength at his peak.


Mike Canfell taught Greg so he can't be that bad.
I seem to remember Mike Canfell pushing GM Rogers to the limit last time they played.
No disrespect to Mike intended.

pax
26-03-2008, 10:34 AM
I clicked on the results page right now..but round 1 results and round 2 pairings do not seem to appear there...:hmm:
I think there is a new page on chess-results.com, you may be using an old link.

BearDrinkingBeer
26-03-2008, 02:31 PM
The page for the 2008 SIO is http://chess-results.com/Tnr11830.aspx.

Round 2 results are available at http://chess-results.com/Tnr11830.aspx?tnr=11830&art=2&rd=2&lan=1&datatyp=2&m=-1&wi=750.

Round 3 pairings are up at http://chess-results.com/Tnr11830.aspx?tnr=11830&art=2&rd=3&lan=1&datatyp=2&m=-1&wi=750.

pax
26-03-2008, 02:35 PM
Note:

You need to use this link (tournament 11830), not the earlier link (11789). For some reason there are two events on chess-results, and only one is up to date.

Kevin Bonham
26-03-2008, 02:42 PM
Broekhuyse-Lane upset, with thanks to TCG for posting the game

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.c3 Nf6 5.d3 d6 6.b4 Bb6 7.a4 a6 8.Nbd2 0-0 9.0-0 h6 10.Bb3 Be6 11.Nc4 Ba7 12.Ne3 Ne7 13.Nh4 d5 14.Nef5 Kh7 15.Bc2 Ng6 16.Qf3 Nxh4 17.Nxh4 g6 18.Nf5 gxf5 19.exf5 Bd7 20.Qh3 Ng8 21.d4 e4 22.f3 Re8 23.fxe4 dxe4 24.Qh5 Qf6 25.g4 Qg7 26.g5 Nf6 27.Qh4 e3 28.g6+ Kh8 29.Rf3 Bc6 30.Bxe3 Bxf3 31.Bxh6 Bh5 32.Bxg7+ Kxg7 33.gxf7 Re5 34.Qg5+ Kxf7 35.Bb3+ Ke7 36.Qg7+ 1-0

This is a classic case of the anti-heffalump strategy referred to in Webb's "Chess for Tigers" - mix it up and make the position unclear so that nobody knows what's going on. I'm sure white's hack attack is objectively not enough but he keeps on firing away and eventually even an IM sometimes collapses.

Capablanca-Fan
26-03-2008, 02:55 PM
Broekhuyse-Lane upset, with thanks to TCG for posting the game

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.c3 Nf6 5.d3 d6 6.b4 Bb6 7.a4 a6 8.Nbd2 0-0 9.0-0 h6 10.Bb3 Be6 11.Nc4 Ba7 12.Ne3 Ne7 13.Nh4 d5 14.Nef5 Kh7 15.Bc2 Ng6 16.Qf3 Nxh4 17.Nxh4 g6 18.Nf5 gxf5 19.exf5 Bd7 20.Qh3 Ng8 21.d4 e4 22.f3 Re8 23.fxe4 dxe4 24.Qh5 Qf6 25.g4 Qg7 26.g5 Nf6 27.Qh4 e3 28.g6+ Kh8 29.Rf3 Bc6 30.Bxe3 Bxf3 31.Bxh6 Bh5 32.Bxg7+ Kxg7 33.gxf7 Re5 34.Qg5+ Kxf7 35.Bb3+ Ke7 36.Qg7+ 1-0

This is a classic case of the anti-heffalump strategy referred to in Webb's "Chess for Tigers" mix it up and make the position unclear so that nobody knows what's going on. I'm sure white's hack attack is objectively not enough but he keeps on firing away and eventually even an IM sometimes collapses.
The quiet opening doesn't seem to be what Webb had in mind with such anti-heffalump strategy. PaulB might be able to tell us if 18. Nf5 had his strategy in mind, or if it was an intuitive N sacrifice that isn't without precendent. It certainly took a while to get going, but Black missed his dark-squared B when White pushed all the way up to g6 then crashed through with Bxh6.

Kevin Bonham
26-03-2008, 05:04 PM
Yes, I doubt the whole game was a deliberate plan to mix it up and suspect the sacrifice just showed up on the move or a few moves out as an interesting way to spice things up.

Actually the more I look at the end the further back I have to go to try to find a refutation.

31...Re2 would have been a much better way to give up the queen - black again gets rook and two pieces for queen but white doesn't get in and start winning back heaps of material like in the game. But probably white is still winning.

30...Rxe3 is another idea for black. (31.Rxe3 fxg6 32.fxg6 Nd5) But I think white's position is OK there, he even has the option of giving back the exchange and playing with three pawns for the piece.

If instead 29...fxg6 30.fxg6 Rf8 white will only have two pawns for the piece for a while but it's likely he will gang up on the h-pawn and win it with an advantage.

At the moment I have to go back to 28...Kg8 as a contender, with the idea that black can take on g6 then push ...e2 (which he can't do in the ...Kh8 line without losing his queen after Bxh6). But even that leads to very messy play.

Aaron Guthrie
26-03-2008, 05:15 PM
Actually the more I look at the end the further back I have to go to try to find a refutation.21...exd4!? 22.f6+ Kh8 23.Qd3 Nxf6

And Nf5 just looked like a natural move, aiming to make use of the weakness of the kingside and multiple peices that were aiming at the kingside.

edit- actually I think 22.Bxh6! refutes that nicely. (22...Nxh6 23.f6+ Kg8 24.Qxh6 two many mate threats)

Kevin Bonham
26-03-2008, 05:33 PM
edit- actually I think 22.Bxh6! refutes that nicely.

Yes, it does. Or 23.Bxh6 for that matter.


And Nf5 just looked like a natural move, aiming to make use of the weakness of the kingside and multiple peices that were aiming at the kingside.

I wish moves like that came to me naturally!

White sort-of has to play it actually. His position is just not that flash if he does not, but at least the sac gives black a lot of problems to solve.

Aaron Guthrie
26-03-2008, 05:41 PM
Yes, it does. Or 23.Bxh6 for that matter..Aha but there was an idea behind alowing f6+. 23.Bxh6 black plays... 23...Bxh3!!
I wish moves like that came to me naturally!.I suggest- give up the french defence, or read tals book on attack a few times, or move to adelaide (actually we seem to have two types of players here- uber attack, uber defence, so probably that wouldn't help).


White sort-of has to play it actually. His position is just not that flash if he does not, but at least the sac gives black a lot of problems to solve.It is a bit anoying that Qg3 is met by Nh5. If not for that the (relatively) slow plan of Qg3-Kh1-f4 looks good.

Kevin Bonham
26-03-2008, 06:40 PM
Aha but there was an idea behind alowing f6+. 23.Bxh6 black plays... 23...Bxh3!!

24.Bg7# :eek:


I suggest- give up the french defence,

:lol:

Aaron Guthrie
26-03-2008, 07:47 PM
24.Bg7# :eek: Dang!

BearDrinkingBeer
27-03-2008, 08:00 AM
You need to use this link (tournament 11830), not the earlier link (11789). For some reason there are two events on chess-results, and only one is up to date.

The website seems to no longer be "Tnr11830.aspx", but http://chess-results.com/Tnr11834.aspx.

Round 3 results are up at http://chess-results.com/Tnr11834.aspx?tnr=11834&art=2&rd=3&lan=1&datatyp=2&m=-1&wi=750.

Round 4 pairings are available at http://chess-results.com/Tnr11834.aspx?tnr=11834&art=2&rd=4&lan=1&datatyp=2&m=-1&wi=750.

MichaelBaron
27-03-2008, 08:11 AM
Zhao is having an intersting position. I hope he will be able to defend accurately and take advantage of his opponents' isolated pawn

Garvinator
27-03-2008, 09:12 AM
Zhao just beat GM Malakhatko on board two.

Capablanca-Fan
27-03-2008, 09:14 AM
Zhao is having an intersting position. I hope he will be able to defend accurately and take advantage of his opponents' isolated pawn
I think he stood worse, but then Malakhatko erred grievously with 39... Qe8, presumably overlooking Zhao's deflection with 41. Bg6 which wins easily.

Kevin Bonham
27-03-2008, 09:42 AM
I think he stood worse, but then Malakhatko erred grievously with 39... Qe8, presumably overlooking Zhao's deflection with 41. Bg6 which wins easily.

Yes it appears that if ...Rxc5 instead of ...Qe8?? White has a difficult time entirely equalising, but it is quite a tricky position. White should be able to recover the pawn he is down but he struggles to avoid a worse ending against the pair of outside passed pawns.

Garrett
27-03-2008, 10:06 AM
One of the best things about this festival is the live commentary by Ian Rogers.

I have never seen anything like it, but hope I see it again.

Ian Rogers is an informative and very entertaining presenter.

Thanks Ian !

Cheers
Garrett.

Brian_Jones
27-03-2008, 10:12 AM
because we are using multi pc's, swiss manager is
creating new sites each round.
we're trying to fix.

however, the correct procedure for finding the results is to go to:

http://www.chessaustralia.com.au/index.cfm?site=open

and then click the results/pairings link which will have the latest link.

Kevin Bonham
27-03-2008, 01:57 PM
Yes it appears that if ...Rxc5 instead of ...Qe8?? White has a difficult time entirely equalising,

Not so sure about that now. After ...Rxc5, bxc5 g5, Nxe6 fxe6, Qd4 intending Bxc4 I can't find anything for black but a drawn queen ending. I also can't find anything else advantageous along the way either. Not convinced Zhao was worse before his opponent's error now, looks more like equality.

Kevin Bonham
27-03-2008, 03:00 PM
Another good result for paulb, drawing with IM Kizov!

Desmond
27-03-2008, 08:19 PM
Good result for Garrett to beat Gareth Oliver. :clap:

Capablanca-Fan
27-03-2008, 10:50 PM
Good result for Garrett to beat Gareth Oliver. :clap:
Great work! :clap:

Garvinator
28-03-2008, 01:02 AM
Good result for Garrett to beat Gareth Oliver. :clap:
Go the Qld Open champion :clap:

Garvinator
28-03-2008, 09:42 AM
Ok, how is going to be the first to lead the charge after today's 12 mover?

Desmond
28-03-2008, 12:23 PM
Ok, how is going to be the first to lead the charge after today's 12 mover?Why? Would you rather a triple rep on move 30 like the other board?

pax
28-03-2008, 12:39 PM
Why? Would you rather a triple rep on move 30 like the other board?
Absolutely. That game was hard fought, and the repetition was genuine.

pax
28-03-2008, 12:41 PM
I can only assume that rule 9: "Draws in under 30 moves allowed only with consent of the arbiter" is not being enforced..

Bill Gletsos
28-03-2008, 12:48 PM
I can only assume that rule 9: "Draws in under 30 moves allowed only with consent of the arbiter" is not being enforced..It is not being used.

Garrett
28-03-2008, 12:48 PM
the arbiters announced before the start of round 2 that the 30 move rule would not be enforced on the direction of the orgainsers.

Intuition
28-03-2008, 01:19 PM
the arbiters announced before the start of round 2 that the 30 move rule would not be enforced on the direction of the orgainsers.

Thats not good enough..it the tournament started with the rule it should be continued thoughout

Capablanca-Fan
28-03-2008, 01:35 PM
Thats not good enough..it the tournament started with the rule it should be continued thoughout
There is no rule of law here, in the sense of prescriptions interpreted consistently and thus predictably. All we have are unpredictable edicts emanating from arbiters and organizers. Let's hope the SIO is the start of expunging this silly rule.

Bill Gletsos
28-03-2008, 01:42 PM
There is no rule of law here, in the sense of prescriptions interpreted consistently and thus predictably. All we have are unpredictable edicts emanating from arbiters and organizers. Let's hope the SIO is the start of expunging this silly rule.From the closetgrandmaster live blog:

As previously stated, there is no "30 move rule" here in the SIO. Just chatted to BJ about that and the situation is clear.
Also, come next year, the SIO organisers could possibly employ the Murray Chandler method of the 30-move rule.The Murray Chandler method no doubt refers to the Queenstown tournament.

On the Queenstown site it states:

Short Draws: For games on any of the top 10 boards each day, agreed draws in under 30 moves are banned. This includes tacit advance agreements to draw (ie deliberate repetitions) and pre-arranged draw agreements. The aim of this rule is to encourage a competitive, fighting tournament, and we trust all players will adhere to this in a sportsmanlike manner. Genuine draws by repetition are allowed.
Penalties:
For infringements of this rule, the following prizemoney penalties will be automatically applied to both players: 1st offence, a deduction of 50% of any prizemoney won; 2nd offence, a deduction of 100% of any prizemoney won.

Garvinator
28-03-2008, 02:09 PM
Genuine draws by repetition are allowed.
:hmm: means we can go back to debating what 'genuine' means in chess.

pax
28-03-2008, 02:30 PM
Thats not good enough..it the tournament started with the rule it should be continued thoughout
Actually, there are not strictly in breach of the rule. One could say that the "arbiter's permission" to draw is simply always given.

Leonid Sandler
28-03-2008, 02:30 PM
Raul Samar is well placed for GM norm!
With 4,5 ponts from 6 games he is playing against forth GM.I hope he will make it,which goes to show that norms can be made by different age players not only teens.
My good old friends Janis Klovans and Joseph Petkevich became GM after winning Veterans(players over 60)World Champioships.By the way March 24 Seventh World Champion Vasily Smislov turned 87...
We all still do have chance!

pax
28-03-2008, 02:33 PM
Raul Samar drew with black against Johansen, and is now on track for a possible IM norm!

Also, Antic's horror run has continued with a loss to Sherrily Cua.
http://chess-results.com/tnr11890.aspx?tnr=11890&art=2&rd=6&lan=1&datatyp=2&m=-1&wi=750

Garvinator
28-03-2008, 02:47 PM
Raul Samar drew with black against Johansen, and is now on track for a possible IM norm!

Also, Antic's horror run has continued with a loss to Sherrily Cua.
http://chess-results.com/tnr11890.aspx?tnr=11890&art=2&rd=6&lan=1&datatyp=2&m=-1&wi=750

White: Cua
Black: Antic

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Be3 Nbd7 7. Qd2 c5 8. Nge2 a6 9. Nc1 cxd4 10. Bxd4 Ne5 11. Nb3 Be6 12. Nd5 Rc8 13. Bb6 Qd7 14. Be3 Bxd5 15. cxd5 Rc7 16. Be2 Rfc8 17. Nd4 Nc4 18. Bxc4 Rxc4 19. O-O Qc7 20. Rad1 Nd7 21. Rf2 Ne5 22. g3 Rc5 23. b3 Rc3 24. Qe2 Nd7 25. Rd3 Ne5 26. Rd1 Qd8 27. Kg2 Qf8 28. Rff1 Bh6 29. f4 Nd7 30. Rc1 Bg7 31. Qd2 R3c7 32. Rxc7 Rxc7 33. Rc1 Qc8 34. Rxc7 Qxc7 35. Qc2 Qd8 36. Nf3 Nf6 37. h3 Qd7 38. Qc4 e6 39. dxe6 fxe6 40. Bf2 d5 41. exd5 exd5 42. Qd3 Ne4 43. Bd4 Bxd4 44. Nxd4 Qc7 45. Qc2 Qxc2+ 46. Nxc2 Kf7 47. Kf3 Ke7 48. g4 Kd6 49. Ke3 b5 50. b4 Nc3 51. a3 Nd1+ 52. Ke2 Nb2 53. Ke3 Nc4+ 54. Kd4 a5 55. bxa5 Nxa5 56. Nb4 Nb3+ 57. Kc3 Nc5 58. Nd3 Ne6 59. Kb4 Nd4 60. Kc3 Nc6 61. Nb4 Na5 62. Nd3 Nc6 63. Nb4 Nd8 64. Nd3 Ne6 65. Kb4 Nc7 66. Kc3 Na6 67. Nb4 Nc7 68. Nd3 h5 69. Ne5 hxg4 70. hxg4 Kc5 71. Nxg6 d4+ 72. Kd3 Nd5 73. g5 b4 74. axb4+ Nxb4+ 75. Kd2 Kd5 76. f5 Nc6 77. f6 Ke6 78. Nf4+ Kf7 79. Kd3 Ne5+ 80. Ke4 Ng4 81. Nd5 1-0

Intuition
28-03-2008, 02:53 PM
Actually, there are not strictly in breach of the rule. One could say that the "arbiter's permission" to draw is simply always given.

While that is correct from a technical veiwpoint, practically the rule has been abandoned which may be unfair to some players, particulary those wanting to draw early in round 1

Leonid Sandler
28-03-2008, 03:11 PM
Forgot to mention another IM who won World Senior Championship and became Grandmaster at age of 61- Algimantas Butnorius from Lithuania!
Another good example of longevity.

Garvinator
28-03-2008, 03:19 PM
Forgot to mention another IM who won World Senior Championship and became Grandmaster at age of 61- Algimantas Butnorius from Lithuania!
Another good example of longevity.
Hello Leonid,

Are you able to show a player of similar age who got the GM title by the 3 norm, 2500 rating route?

pax
28-03-2008, 03:37 PM
While that is correct from a technical veiwpoint, practically the rule has been abandoned which may be unfair to some players, particulary those wanting to draw early in round 1

That would be all of the players in the lower half of the draw, and none of the players in the top half ;)

pax
28-03-2008, 03:39 PM
Raul Samar is well placed for GM norm!
IM norm only, unless he plays absolutely out of his skin to beat more GMs in the coming rounds. His current performance rating is 2469.

Leonid Sandler
28-03-2008, 03:52 PM
You are probably right Pax, however Samar is able to show top class and perform wonders.I am hoping that this will be the case(GM or in the worst case scenario IM norm).By the way this round(7) is make or breake for quite a few norm chasers.
Garvin,I am still thinking about examples.But if are able to win World Seniors you are fully deserved the GM title.

Kevin Bonham
28-03-2008, 04:15 PM
Oh dear. Antic missed, or wrongly rejected, the standard tactic 44...Qxh3+! entering a knight ending a pawn up that whether won or not is certainly better than the one he got. And 68...h5?? is just horrendous.

By the way the moves at the end there are wrong; I'm guessing that either black resigned after 79...Ne5+ or else it ended 80.Ke4 Ng4 81.Nd5.

Adamski
28-03-2008, 04:48 PM
Oh dear. Antic missed, or wrongly rejected, the standard tactic 44...Qxh3+! entering a knight ending a pawn up that whether won or not is certainly better than the one he got. And 68...h5?? is just horrendous.

By the way the moves at the end there are wrong; I'm guessing that either black resigned after 79...Ne5+ or else it ended 80.Ke4 Ng4 81.Nd5.I think Dejan must be tired - perhaps playing 2 tournaments one straight after the other was a mistake - though Darryl J. e.g. has coped well...

Kevin Bonham
28-03-2008, 04:55 PM
Let's hope the SIO is the start of expunging this silly rule.

I'd be interested to know who made the call. I suspect that they the SIO organisers thought it was a good idea sometime out but then the enforcement of it at Doeberl was messy and contentious enough that they realised it requires more thought.

I commend them for not enforcing it under the circumstances; it's not like anyone is actually disadvantaged by removing such a rule and if you are going to implement that sort of rule you need to get it right.

Capablanca-Fan
28-03-2008, 04:57 PM
I think Dejan must be tired perhaps playing 2 tournaments one straight after the other was a mistake
Yes, which is why even Bronstein said that the occasional short draw was important to pace oneself through a tourney. It's also why Ortvin Sarapu could win his 20th NZ title in his mid 60s.

Rogers also knew this when he was actually playing rather than pontificating, hence his own short draws in tournaments.

Note that Antić won the Australian champs largely by grinding out people in long endgames. This makes pacing oneself even more important, to have the energy for such long battles. The short-sighted attacks on his fighting spirit are like those who expect marathon runners to sprint all the way.


though Darryl J. e.g. has coped well...
Has he? He was well down in the Doerbel (relative to a player of his stature of course).

Capablanca-Fan
28-03-2008, 04:59 PM
Oh dear. Antic missed, or wrongly rejected, the standard tactic 44...Qxh3+! entering a knight ending a pawn up that whether won or not is certainly better than the one he got. And 68...h5?? is just horrendous.
Yeah, it looked like Antić trying to make something out of nothing, i.e. displaying the fighting spirit that certain detractors claim he is lacking. But when given the chance, he missed it. He kept spurning easy draws and drifted into a lost position.

Garvinator
28-03-2008, 05:37 PM
I think Dejan must be tired - perhaps playing 2 tournaments one straight after the other was a mistake
Dejan did come equal first last year at SIO.

Garvinator
28-03-2008, 05:37 PM
Note that Antić won the Australian champs largely by grinding out people in long endgames. This makes pacing oneself even more important, to have the energy for such long battles. The short-sighted attacks on his fighting spirit are like those who expect marathon runners to sprint all the way.
The Aus champs is a different kettle of fish as almost every day is one round per day.

Capablanca-Fan
28-03-2008, 05:52 PM
The Aus champs is a different kettle of fish as almost every day is one round per day.
The other examples I cited were also one round per day. Yet pacing was still good.

Intuition
28-03-2008, 05:56 PM
That would be all of the players in the lower half of the draw, and none of the players in the top half ;)

I Totally agree..but players are still players regardless of ranking :)

Capablanca-Fan
28-03-2008, 06:06 PM
Short Draws: For games on any of the top 10 boards each day, agreed draws in under 30 moves are banned. This includes tacit advance agreements to draw (ie deliberate repetitions) and pre-arranged draw agreements. The aim of this rule is to encourage a competitive, fighting tournament, and we trust all players will adhere to this in a sportsmanlike manner. Genuine draws by repetition are allowed.
Penalties:
For infringements of this rule, the following prizemoney penalties will be automatically applied to both players: 1st offence, a deduction of 50% of any prizemoney won; 2nd offence, a deduction of 100% of any prizemoney won. ates:
This is manifestly unjust, since it denies equality under the law. There should not be different rules for different players, but the same rule for all.

It would be surprising, since GM Chandler has not been above short draws, e.g.


Anthony F Ker vs Murray Chandler, New Zealand Championship 2008, 15 moves (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1482774)
Bruce R Watson vs Murray Chandler, New Zealand Championship 2008, 16 moves (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1482752)
Murray Chandler vs Gary W Lane, Australian Championships 2005, 22 moves (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1400290)
Igor Kurnosov vs Murray Chandler, Politiken Cup 2005, 13 moves (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1371840)
Bogdan Lalic vs Murray Chandler, Smith & Williamson ch-GBR 2001, 16 moves (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1183014)


Again, I have no problem with these draws. But this new-found moralizing against short draws would find many people guilty, people who wouldn't normally be accused of being non-fighting or cowardly.

Bill Gletsos
28-03-2008, 08:14 PM
By the way the moves at the end there are wrong; I'm guessing that either black resigned after 79...Ne5+ or else it ended 80.Ke4 Ng4 81.Nd5.Those are the correct moves as now show on the TCG blog.

Kevin Bonham
29-03-2008, 12:33 AM
I'm not sure if the 2375 showing on the results site is a correct FIDE PR, but Cua's TPR using FIDE ratings so far is 2443 (over 300 points above her rating), and as well as beating Antic she has drawn with three IMs.

Adamski
29-03-2008, 09:40 AM
This is manifestly unjust, since it denies equality under the law. There should not be different rules for different players, but the same rule for all.

It would be surprising, since GM Chandler has not been above short draws, e.g.


Anthony F Ker vs Murray Chandler, New Zealand Championship 2008, 15 moves (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1482774)
Bruce R Watson vs Murray Chandler, New Zealand Championship 2008, 16 moves (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1482752)
Murray Chandler vs Gary W Lane, Australian Championships 2005, 22 moves (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1400290)
Igor Kurnosov vs Murray Chandler, Politiken Cup 2005, 13 moves (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1371840)
Bogdan Lalic vs Murray Chandler, Smith & Williamson ch-GBR 2001, 16 moves (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1183014)


Again, I have no problem with these draws. But this new-found moralizing against short draws would find many people guilty, people who wouldn't normally be accused of being non-fighting or cowardly.I suspect that the Queenstown rule stems more from the organisers as a group, possibly backed by the sponsors, than from Murray himself. I agree that the rule is silly, as is the SIO one which is not being enforced..

Capablanca-Fan
29-03-2008, 10:49 AM
I suspect that the Queenstown rule stems more from the organisers as a group, possibly backed by the sponsors, than from Murray himself. I agree that the rule is silly, as is the SIO one which is not being enforced..
Probably right, but a word from Murray would presumably be enough to expunge it.

Another injustice is unequal penalty. It could enable extortion of those hoping to win big prizes by those with prospects of winning small or no prizes. I.e. the latter could head for a drawing line, and the penalty of losing half or all prize money is no deterrent, but the former may be forced to take undue risks because they stand to lose much more.

Kevin Bonham
29-03-2008, 03:38 PM
Shaun Press has posted the following:

Stojic D - Stojic S

1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.f4 g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Bc4 e6 6.0-0 Nge7 7.d3 a6 8.a4 0-0 9.Qe1 d6 10.f5 exf5 11.Qh4 fxe4 12.Ng5 1-0

Black's position is unquestionably bad (far as I can tell he loses f7 for no compensation) but I'm not so sure about resigning. I suspect having such a bad position against his brother had more to do with it!

Top last-round pairings are:


1 3 GM Akobian Varuzhan 6 6 GM Zhang Zhong 1
2 4 GM Ganguly Surya Shekhar 6 6 GM Gagunashvili Merab 6
3 16 IM Kizov Atanas 6 6 GM Jones Gawain C B 5
4 7 GM Chandler Murray G 6 6 IM Zhao Zong-Yuan 9
5 8 GM Antonio Rogelio Jr 6 6 GM Johansen Darryl K 11
6 2 GM Malakhatko Vadim 5 5 FM Metz Hartmut 21
7 12 IM Solomon Stephen J 5 5 Dragicevic Domagoj 34
8 31 Chow Sam 5 5 IM Bitansky Igor 13
9 14 IM Lane Gary W 5 5 Kresovic Velimir 30
10 20 IM Zozulia Anna 5 5 FM Goldenberg Igor 17

20 players in mathematical contention!

Capablanca-Fan
29-03-2008, 05:47 PM
Shaun Press has posted the following:

Stojic D - Stojic S

1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.f4 g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Bc4 e6 6.0-0 Nge7 7.d3 a6 8.a4 0-0 9.Qe1 d6 10.f5 exf5 11.Qh4 fxe4 12.Ng5 1-0

Black's position is unquestionably bad (far as I can tell he loses f7 for no compensation) but I'm not so sure about resigning. I suspect having such a bad position against his brother had more to do with it!
He must play 12. ... h5, when 13. Nxf7 probably forces Black to toss the exchange to avoid a deadly discovered check.

BearDrinkingBeer
29-03-2008, 05:49 PM
GMs Zhang Zhong and Ganguly, Surya Shekhar have drawn their games, so they've at least come equal 1st.

pax
29-03-2008, 06:14 PM
Chandler-Zhao


1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Bd6 6. d4 Nf6 7. O-O O-O 8. Re1 b6 9. Bd5 Be7 10. dxe5 Nxd5 11. exd5 Na5 12. d6 cxd6 13. exd6 Bf6 14. Qd3 Bb7 15. Bf4 Rc8 16. Nd4 Bxd4 17. Qxd4 Rc4 18. Qd2 Qf6 19. Bg3 h5 20. h4 Qg6 21. Re5 f6 22. Re7 Bc6 23. Qe1 f5 24. Nd2 f4 25. Nxc4 fxg3 26. fxg3 Nxc4 27. Kh2 Nxd6 28. Rd1 Nf5 29. Re5 Nxh4 30. Rxd7 Bxd7 0-1

So ZYZ throws in another GM norm just to prove that the first three were not flukes.

I get the feeling this kid is going to be over 2600 before we know it.

Garvinator
29-03-2008, 06:16 PM
So ZYZ throws in another GM norm just to prove that the first three were not flukes.

I get the feeling this kid is going to be over 2600 before we know it.
I think ZYZ should really considering moving to Europe permanently if this is possible, so he can have a regular go at some top flight competition.

Kevin Bonham
29-03-2008, 06:25 PM
He must play 12. ... h5, when 13. Nxf7 probably forces Black to toss the exchange to avoid a deadly discovered check.

He can throw in ...Bd4+ so that if Kh1 then he has ...d5 blocking the deadly discovered check. But I was mainly looking at Bxf7+ not Nxf7 and I agree, Nxf7 looks extremely strong ... and yes, pretty much resignable!

Kevin Bonham
29-03-2008, 06:42 PM
So ZZ, Ganguly, Jones and ZYZ all tie for first on 7/9.

Metro
29-03-2008, 06:51 PM
I think ZYZ should really considering moving to Europe permanently if this is possible, so he can have a regular go at some top flight competition.

The question is does he want to be a professional chess player?

Garvinator
29-03-2008, 08:04 PM
Rk Name Rtg 1.Rd 2.Rd 3.Rd 4.Rd 5.Rd 6.Rd 7.Rd 8.Rd 9.Rd Pts. TB1 TB2 TB3

1 GM Ganguly Surya Shekhar 2579 38w1 22s1 34w1 10s1 4w1 2s 3w 7s 5w 7,0 44,0 56,0 42,50
2 GM Zhang Zhong 2617 57s1 21w1 15s1 6w1 5s 1w 9s1 16w 7s 7,0 43,5 55,0 42,00
3 GM Jones Gawain C B 2562 65s1 19w1 13s 24w 27s1 8w1 1s 5w 15s1 7,0 41,5 52,5 40,00
4 IM Zhao Zong-Yuan 2487 81s1 27w1 20s1 9w1 1s0 36w1 5s 6w 16s1 7,0 41,5 52,0 38,50
5 GM Gagunashvili Merab 2553 66w1 29s1 17w1 14s1 2w 7s 4w 3s 1s 6,5 45,0 56,0 38,75
6 GM Antonio Rogelio Jr 2529 54w1 69s1 25w1 2s0 14w1 13s 22w1 4s 11w 6,5 41,0 52,0 35,25
7 GM Akobian Varuzhan 2599 67s1 39w1 24s 13w 21s1 5w 47s1 1w 2w 6,5 40,0 51,0 35,00
8 IM Bitansky Igor 2424 96s1 28w1 9s0 26w1 35s1 3s0 14w1 13w 19s1 6,5 40,0 49,5 33,00
9 GM Malakhatko Vadim 2600 59w1 47s1 8w1 4s0 20w1 34s 2w0 21s1 25w1 6,5 39,5 51,0 34,50
10 IM Solomon Stephen J 2468 70w1 23s1 31w1 1w0 19s 22s0 35w1 47s1 32w1 6,5 37,0 48,0 32,75
11 GM Johansen Darryl K 2475 73s1 48w1 26s 49w1 36s 47w 13s 12w1 6s 6,5 36,5 47,0 33,25
12 IM Lane Gary W 2412 82w1 50s0 66w1 23s 54w1 38s1 48w1 11s0 22w1 6,5 33,5 43,5 29,75
13 IM Zozulia Anna 2344 46w1 64s1 3w 7s 63s1 6w 11w 8s 17w 6,0 41,0 51,5 32,00
14 FM Swiercz Dariusz 2315 58s1 88w1 18s1 5w0 6s0 28w1 8s0 42w1 37s1 6,0 39,0 48,0 28,50
15 IM Kizov Atanas 2398 94w1 44s1 2w0 50s 23w 29s1 31w1 20s1 3w0 6,0 38,5 48,5 29,50
16 GM Chandler Murray G 2540 43s 86w1 50w1 36s0 53w1 26s1 34w1 2s 4w0 6,0 36,5 47,0 29,00
17 FM Goldenberg Igor 2395 61s1 51w1 5s0 48w 49s1 19w 21s 26w1 13s 6,0 36,0 47,0 29,75
18 GM Antic Dejan 2480 63w1 53s1 14w0 29s1 47w0 23s0 65w1 35s1 44w1 6,0 34,0 43,5 27,50
19 Chow Sam 2240 93w1 3s0 52w1 37s1 10w 17s 25w 34s1 8w0 5,5 39,0 49,0 26,50
20 FM Smith Robert W 2333 101w1 37s1 4w0 44s1 9s0 30w1 27s1 15w0 28s 5,5 39,0 48,5 26,25
21 De Ramos Joseph Julius 2256 79w1 2s0 70w1 33s1 7w0 44s1 17w 9w0 56s1 5,5 38,0 48,5 25,50
22 Kresovic Velimir 2245 84s1 1w0 43s1 51w 67s1 10w1 6s0 49w1 12s0 5,5 37,5 48,0 25,75
23 Cua Sherily 2132 87s1 10w0 88s1 12w 15s 18w1 36s 24w 27s 5,5 37,5 46,5 25,75
24 IM Wang Puchen 2383 52w1 33s1 7w 3s 38w 48s0 50w1 23s 29w 5,5 37,0 48,5 29,25
25 FM Metz Hartmut 2335 80s1 62w1 6s0 28w0 33s1 51w1 19s 48w1 9s0 5,5 36,0 46,0 24,75
26 Rej Tomek 2283 76w1 90s1 11w 8s0 50w1 16w0 51s1 17s0 53w1 5,5 36,0 45,5 23,75
27 Perena Catherine 2234 92w1 4s0 46w1 97s1 3w0 52s1 20w0 38s1 23w 5,5 35,5 45,0 22,75
28 CM Illingworth Max 2152 78w1 8s0 79w1 25s1 34w0 14s0 70w1 40s1 20w 5,5 35,0 45,0 24,75
29 Hacche David 2182 68s1 5w0 80s1 18w0 37s1 15w0 81s1 63w1 24s 5,5 33,5 43,5 22,25
30 Setiawan Akwie 2207 37w0 74s1 64w1 34s0 98w1 20s0 78w1 41s1 36w 5,5 31,5 39,5 21,50
31 Wallis Christopher 2259 104s1 97w1 10s0 35w0 94s1 42w1 15s0 56w 48s1 5,5 30,5 38,5 18,75
32 Dragicevic Domagoj 2215 83s 71w1 49s0 62w1 51s0 73w1 67s1 36w1 10s0 5,5 30,0 39,5 22,50
33 Nguyen Thu Giang 2106 103s1 24w0 87s1 21w0 25w0 62s 92w1 82s1 47w1 5,5 29,0 36,0 17,50
34 IM Reprintsev Alexander 2406 60s1 56w1 1s0 30w1 28s1 9w 16s0 19w0 39s 5,0 38,5 50,0 25,75
35 Haessler Carl 2147 - 41w1 - 31s1 8w0 40s1 10s0 18w0 63s1 5,0 38,5 48,5 19,50
36 IM Mas Hafizulhelmi 2382 105s1 49w 45s1 16w1 11w 4s0 23w 32s0 30s 5,0 38,5 46,5 23,00
37 Dalton Samuel 1735 30s1 20w0 42s1 19w0 29w0 59s1 69w1 55s1 14w0 5,0 36,0 46,0 23,50
38 McNamara Gary 2084 1s0 100w1 71s1 39w1 24s 12w0 45s 27w0 77s1 5,0 35,5 44,5 20,25
39 Ayvazyan Armen 2245 72w1 7s0 94w1 38s0 52w0 74s1 54w1 53s 34w 5,0 31,5 41,0 20,25
40 Hay Trevor 2310 64w0 101s1 63w- 80w1 65s1 35w0 43s1 28w0 49s1 5,0 31,5 39,5 19,50
41 Watson James 1923 45w 35s0 57w 70s1 69w 66s1 56s 30w0 67s1 5,0 31,0 40,5 21,00
42 Cunanan Homer 2133 90w0 58s1 37w0 64s1 78w1 31s0 52w1 14s0 62w1 5,0 31,0 40,0 20,50
43 Dizdarevic Mehmedalija 2025 16w 55s 22w0 98s0 64w1 72s1 40w0 84s1 68w1 5,0 31,0 39,5 20,75
44 Hu Jason 2120 102s1 15w0 90s1 20w0 87s1 21w0 89s1 45w1 18s0 5,0 31,0 38,5 15,50
45 Oliver Gareth 2164 41s 83w1 36w0 68s0 79w1 82s1 38w 44s0 70w1 5,0 30,0 38,0 19,00
46 Forster William 1964 13s0 102w1 27s0 87w0 95s1 99w 88s 69s1 66w1 5,0 24,5 32,0 15,00
47 Samar Raul 2254 100s1 9w0 65s1 56w1 18s1 11s 7w0 10w0 33s0 4,5 39,5 48,0 19,75
48 Stojic Dusan 2155 98w1 11s0 76w1 17s 68w1 24w1 12s0 25s0 31w0 4,5 37,0 46,0 19,00
49 FM Fernandez Daniel Howard 2104 75w1 36s 32w1 11s0 17w0 92s1 55w1 22s0 40w0 4,5 36,0 45,5 19,50
50 Broekhuyse Paul 2130 99s1 12w1 16s0 15w 26s0 58w1 24s0 67w 60s 4,5 36,0 45,0 20,75
51 Pecori Ascaro 2129 91w1 17s0 78w1 22s 32w1 25s0 26w0 62s 52w 4,5 34,0 43,0 19,00
52 Daylo Leo Jr 1969 24s0 103w1 19s0 90w1 39s1 27w0 42s0 88w1 51s 4,5 31,0 38,0 14,25
53 Manon-Og Ramon Jr 2144 95s1 18w0 93s 86w1 16s0 77w1 63s 39w 26s0 4,5 30,5 39,5 16,25
54 WFM Milligan Helen 2008 6s0 68w 83s1 93w1 12s0 89w 39s0 72w1 58s 4,5 30,0 39,5 15,75
55 Steadman Michael 2238 71s 43w 61s1 63w0 62s1 56w 49s0 37w0 80s1 4,5 30,0 38,5 18,75
56 Dotsenko Viacheslav 2132 89w1 34s0 98w1 47s0 97w1 55s 41w 31s 21w0 4,5 30,0 38,0 15,50
57 FM Morris James 2096 2w0 76s0 41s 71w0 83s1 87w1 62w0 79s1 75w1 4,5 27,5 37,5 16,00
58 Chung Francisco 1942 14w0 42w0 103s1 59s 102w1 50s0 91w 65s1 54w 4,5 27,0 34,5 13,00
59 Bennett Hilton 2094 9s0 104w1 97s0 58w 93s 37w0 71w1 74s 78w1 4,5 26,5 34,5 14,75
60 Ali Mosaddeque 1980 34w0 78s0 89w0 84s1 72w0 103s1 98w1 91s1 50w 4,5 24,0 30,5 12,75
61 Rosario Amiel 1974 17w0 89s1 55w0 75s 92w0 91s0 97w1 99s1 82w1 4,5 23,5 32,0 13,50
62 Cunanan Kimberly Jane 1939 74w1 25s0 69w1 32s0 55w0 33w 57s1 51w 42s0 4,0 33,5 43,0 17,50
63 Schon Eugene 2002 18s0 85w1 40s+ 55s1 13w0 69s 53w 29s0 35w0 4,0 33,0 42,5 17,75
64 Canfell Mike J 1941 40s1 13w0 30s0 42w0 43s0 100w1 85s1 66s0 89w1 4,0 31,5 39,5 14,00
65 Cheng Bobby 2064 3w0 72s1 47w0 76s1 40w0 98s1 18s0 58w0 88s1 4,0 31,0 40,5 13,00
66 Sutherland John 2050 5s0 84w1 12s0 88w 71s1 41w0 90s 64w1 46s0 4,0 31,0 40,0 14,25
67 Fuatai Fuatai 2087 7w0 79s 104w1 91s1 22w0 68s1 32w0 50s 41w0 4,0 31,0 39,0 12,50
68 Lester George E 1733 29w0 54s 100s1 45w1 48s0 67w0 73s 81w1 43s0 4,0 30,5 38,0 14,75
69 Dilla Edsil 2153 85s1 6w0 62s0 74w1 41s 63w 37s0 46w0 93s1 4,0 30,0 39,5 14,75
70 Stojic Svetozar 1995 10s0 95w1 21s0 41w0 100s1 93w1 28s0 90w1 45s0 4,0 30,0 38,5 11,00
71 Rachmadi Herman 1836 55w 32s0 38w0 57s1 66w0 - 59s0 87w1 94s1 4,0 29,5 38,0 12,75
72 Grigg Sam 1897 39s0 65w0 81s0 105w1 60s1 43w0 95s1 54s0 91w1 4,0 27,5 33,5 11,50
73 Spiller Paul 1998 11w0 92s 91w 89s 75w1 32s0 68w 78s 74w 4,0 27,0 36,5 14,25
74 Dick David W 1953 62s0 30w0 99s1 69s0 103w1 39w0 93s1 59w 73s 4,0 27,0 34,0 11,25
75 Jule Sebastian 1501 49s0 80w0 105s1 61w 73s0 86w1 77s 94w1 57s0 4,0 27,0 32,5 11,75
76 WIM Jule Alexandra 1931 26s0 57w1 48s0 65w0 81s0 85w0 101s1 95w1 90s1 4,0 26,0 34,0 13,00
77 Pickering Anthony 1965 97w0 - - 102s 91w1 53s0 75w 89s1 38w0 4,0 25,0 31,5 8,75
78 Goundar Sanmogam 1851 28s0 60w1 51s0 81w1 42s0 94w1 30s0 73w 59s0 3,5 31,5 40,0 13,00
79 Kalisch Tom 1914 21s0 67w 28s0 85w1 45s0 88w0 86s1 57w0 99w1 3,5 28,5 36,5 11,50
80 Holland Dennis 1960 25w0 75s1 29w0 40s0 90w0 102s 83w1 92s1 55w0 3,5 28,5 35,5 10,75
81 Brown Andrew 2004 4w0 93s0 72w1 78s0 76w1 97s1 29w0 68s0 84w 3,5 27,5 37,0 12,25
82 Voon Richard 1990 12s0 87w0 85s 83w1 88s1 45w0 99s1 33w0 61s0 3,5 27,0 36,0 9,75
83 Guo Emma 1749 32w 45s0 54w0 82s0 57w0 -1 80s0 105w1 97s1 3,5 26,5 33,0 10,75
84 WIM Szuveges Narelle 1867 22w0 66s0 96s 60w0 85s 104w1 87s1 43w0 81s 3,5 26,0 33,0 9,25
85 Gomez Augustin 1900 69w0 63s0 82w 79s0 84w 76s1 64w0 102s1 92w 3,5 25,0 30,5 10,50
86 Dolejs Dan 1969 - 16s0 92w1 53s0 89w0 75s0 79w0 101s1 98w1 3,5 24,0 32,5 8,00
87 Escalante Lorenzo 1742 23w0 82s1 33w0 46s1 44w0 57s0 84w0 71s0 105w1 3,0 31,0 37,5 9,50
88 Abdat Akef 2030 106s+ 14s0 23w0 66s 82w0 79s1 46w 52s0 65w0 3,0 30,0 38,5 12,50
89 Myers Stephen 1648 56s0 61w0 60s1 73w 86s1 54s 44w0 77w0 64s0 3,0 30,0 38,5 12,25
90 Abbott Peter 1758 42s1 26w0 44w0 52s0 80s1 - 66w 70s0 76w0 3,0 30,0 38,5 10,50
91 Tan Justin 1575 51s0 105w1 73s 67w0 77s0 61w1 58s 60w0 72s0 3,0 29,5 35,0 9,75
92 WFM Harris Rebecca 1819 27s0 73w 86s0 96w1 61s1 49w0 33s0 80w0 85s 3,0 29,0 37,0 10,75
93 Escribano Jose 1840 19s0 81w1 53w 54s0 59w 70s0 74w0 103s1 69w0 3,0 29,0 36,0 9,50
94 Davis Tony 1975 15s0 99w1 39s0 95w1 31w0 78s0 102w1 75s0 71w0 3,0 27,5 35,0 7,00
95 Descallar Levi 1848 53w0 70s0 101w1 94s0 46w0 105s1 72w0 76s0 104w1 3,0 23,5 29,5 5,00
96 Christensen Joshua 1994 8w0 98s0 84w 92s0 99s0 101w0 100s -1 103w1 3,0 18,5 26,5 8,75
97 Cristuta Roy 1377 77s1 31s0 59w1 27w0 56s0 81w0 61s0 98s 83w0 2,5 29,5 37,5 9,75
98 Tanoi Toleafoa 1918 48s0 96w1 56s0 43w1 30s0 65w0 60s0 97w 86s0 2,5 28,5 36,5 8,75
99 Lau Joshua 1643 50w0 94s0 74w0 104s1 96w1 46s 82w0 61w0 79s0 2,5 25,5 32,0 6,50
100 Mitchell Robert 1904 47w0 38s0 68w0 101s1 70w0 64s0 96w 104s0 -1 2,5 23,5 30,0 8,25
101 Selnes Hamish 1957 20s0 40w0 95s0 100w0 105s 96s1 76w0 86w0 102s1 2,5 22,0 28,5 4,50
102 Froiland Gunnar 1269 44w0 46s0 -1 77w 58s0 80w 94s0 85w0 101w0 2,0 26,0 32,5 8,25
103 Russell Luthien 1555 33w0 52s0 58w0 -1 74s0 60w0 104s1 93w0 96s0 2,0 24,5 31,5 6,00
104 Korenevski Oleg 1918 31w0 59s0 67s0 99w0 -1 84s0 103w0 100w1 95s0 2,0 21,0 28,0 6,50
105 Van Der Wal Fritz W 1968 36w0 91s0 75w0 72s0 101w 95w0 -1 83s0 87s0 1,5 22,5 28,5 5,75
106 Joydev Saha 2176 88w- -0 -0 -0 -0 -0 -0 -0 -0 0,0 31,5 40,5 0,00

MichaelBaron
29-03-2008, 08:23 PM
Congratulations to Zhao :clap: Playing through his games makes me feel that if he does not give up chess, he will be inside Worlds top 100 in no Time.

Capablanca-Fan
29-03-2008, 08:35 PM
He can throw in ...Bd4+ so that if Kh1 then he has ...d5 blocking the deadly discovered check. But I was mainly looking at Bxf7+ not Nxf7 and I agree, Nxf7 looks extremely strong ... and yes, pretty much resignable!
Now that you mention it, ...Bd4+ is a good reply, forcing White to leave his Rf1 unprotect, making White's Nf7 pinned so unable to take the Q.

Metro
29-03-2008, 09:05 PM
Congratulations to Zhao :clap: Playing through his games makes me feel that if he does not give up chess, he will be inside Worlds top 100 in no Time.

That would be terrific for Australian chess but I wonder if he has these ambitions or if he intends to be a pharmacist or other

Basil
29-03-2008, 11:22 PM
Brian (Jones), congratulations on a very fine tournament. The finest? :clap:

Brian_Jones
30-03-2008, 07:57 AM
Brian (Jones), congratulations on a very fine tournament. The finest? :clap:

Thanks Gunner.

But what about the superb Man U 4-0 win over Aston Vanilla last night!? :)

Igor_Goldenberg
30-03-2008, 01:22 PM
Another excellent tournament. It is a pity Town Hall was being repaired during the event, but it was those things outside of control.
My apologies for not being present at the closing ceremony, as I had to catch a flight (the last one in the day, but still too early).

pax
30-03-2008, 04:51 PM
Looks like Zhao will pick up a further 16 rating points from the SIO to be 2557. In the process, he exceeds Rogers' final rating of 2545.

Brian_Jones
14-04-2008, 04:22 PM
Another excellent tournament. It is a pity Town Hall was being repaired during the event, but it was those things outside of control.
My apologies for not being present at the closing ceremony, as I had to catch a flight (the last one in the day, but still too early).

For 2009, the Parramatta Town Hall will probably have air-conditioning but can't do much about the roof when it hails!

No problem about the closing ceremony Igor - we drank your prize! :)

The organisers eventually ended up with a cash surplus of $600 but we really should accrue for rating fees and other invoices that might arrive in the next few months! :)

Igor_Goldenberg
14-04-2008, 04:24 PM
No problem about the closing ceremony Igor - we drank your prize! :)

I hope you did not get drunk.

Axiom
14-04-2008, 04:30 PM
I hope you did not get drunk.
I'm just concerned what they can do with the surplus $600 ! ;) :lol:

Garrett
14-04-2008, 05:50 PM
I hope you did not get drunk.

Thanks Brian for a fabulous tourney.

If the room is air-conned next year then that will be fantastic.

I certainly hope to come back again.

I really liked the commentary, I hope that will be there next year again. It provided some solace for an early loss !

Cheers and thanks again
Garrett

bergil
16-04-2008, 05:08 PM
With no contribution from Chess Attack Pty Ltd this year, we need somebody to sponsor the SIO/SIC Junior prizes.

For SIO this is $250 x 2 = $500 plus medals. For SIC this is $100 x 2 = $200.

Any volunteers or bids?Was there a sponsor for the Junior prizes?

Brian_Jones
16-04-2008, 05:35 PM
Was there a sponsor for the Junior prizes?

Yes, the junior prizes were sponsored by Mr William Gletsos.

Other SIO/SIC sponsors we must thank include:

Parramatta City Council
Pratt Foundation
ANZ Bank
Parramatta RSL Club
Coffs Harbour Surgical Group
Australian Chess Enterprises
North Rocks Medical Practice
O2C
Charles Zworestine
Shaun Press
NSW Chess Association
Malcolm Tredinnick
Ken MacGillivray
Parramatta RSL Club Chess Club