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CameronD
31-08-2007, 01:22 AM
Hi

Generally, I'm against anti-draw rules, till I see games like this played on fritz. Maybe players need more incentive to win games.

[Event "Bratto Open 2007"]
[Site "Bratto"]
[Date "2007.08.30"]
[Round "8"]
[White "IM Hunt, Adam C(ENG)"]
[Black "GM Khenkin, Igor(GER)"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B13"]
[WhiteElo "2461"]
[BlackElo "2602"]
[PlyCount "14"]
[EventDate "2007.??.??"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 cxd5 4. c4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Bg5 Be6 7. Be2 Qa5

Draw 1/2-1/2} 1/2-1/2

ps - I hear that the exchange slav is the short draw variation of choice.

CameronD
31-08-2007, 01:25 AM
And another one tonight.

[Event "Bratto Open 2007"]
[Site "Bratto"]
[Date "2007.08.30"]
[Round "8"]
[White "IM Martinez, Rolly(PHI)"]
[Black "IM Bruno, Fabio(ITA)"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B22"]
[WhiteElo "2428"]
[BlackElo "2443"]
[PlyCount "15"]
[EventDate "2007.??.??"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. c3 d5 4. exd5 exd5 5. d4 Nc6 6. Bb5 Bd6 7. O-O Nge7 8. Nbd2
1/2-1/2

Desmond
01-09-2007, 09:58 AM
What is the point of this thread? If I want to find quick draws I can search any database for games with less than 20 ply and result = draw.

EGOR
01-09-2007, 11:36 AM
What is the point of this thread? If I want to find quick draws I can search any database for games with less than 20 ply and result = draw.
I would say it's an attempt to generate some discussion on the topic of short draws and their effect on the game.
However, I could be wrong.:hmm:

Capablanca-Fan
01-09-2007, 01:34 PM
So what? Do you know their tournament situation? Maybe this suited them both as it gave them both good prizes, whereas a loss would have put the loser out of contention? Maybe it was a matter of pacing themselves through the tournament. It's no-one's business but the players themselves.

If a sponsor paid them appearance fees on the condition that they took no draws below, say, 30 moves, then that would be a different matter.

UELleida
20-09-2007, 08:32 PM
A win bonus would be a good idea at major international tournaments.

Capablanca-Fan
20-09-2007, 10:17 PM
A win bonus would be a good idea at major international tournaments.
I disagree with any system that values a win + loss higher than two draws. This is easily shown by considering a match, where the score is level after either of those, and the same should apply to tournaments. Also, a
perfectly played game will be a draw, and even imperfectly played real games can end in draws that do credit to both players. Draws in general should not be denigrated because of a few "grandmaster draws".

UELleida
20-09-2007, 11:19 PM
I disagree with any system that values a win + loss higher than two draws. This is easily shown by considering a match, where the score is level after either of those, and the same should apply to tournaments. Also, a
perfectly played game will be a draw, and even imperfectly played real games can end in draws that do credit to both players. Draws in general should not be denigrated because of a few "grandmaster draws".

While I agree with what you are saying here, what I was getting at is a cash incentive win bonus, say $10000 for each win in Mexico, for example. A draw and loss would get no bonus. One problem with this is collusion, but then again if these bonuses are not too high, the grand prize of 1st in the event is more likely to be the focus of all participants.

Miguel
21-09-2007, 01:26 AM
Also, a perfectly played game will be a draw
Jono has solved chess (ultra-weak)! :rolleyes: