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LoxRandom
23-07-2007, 10:59 AM
I'm a kind of...moderate amateur, and was just wondering if any of you would take an interest in a game I had. It was probably my first one that progressed way into the endgame and left me tired but happy, cos I won.

By the way, I'm 16. I apologise.

So here it is...I saw a thread earlier where a poster was prompted to analyse their own game as they went along, so I think I'll do that.

I played white.

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 Nc6 4. Bb5 Bd7 5. Nc3 a6 6. Ba4 f6 7. Be3 Qe7

Right...I'm happy with my opening, and his move 6 could've been better I think?

8. Nd5 Qd8 I threatened the fork, all's well...
9. Qd2 Ne7 10. Nxe7 Qxe7 11. d5...don't know if that clogs things up a bit...11. Na7
12. Bxd7+ Qxd7 13. Qb4 b6 14. Qd2...I wanted to keep my options open and feared c5, which in retrospect could've been answered with dxc6. But hey. He brings his queen out with...14. Qb5, attacking b2.
15. b3 a5 16. a4 Qd7 17. h3, blocking his queen from messing with my kingside. 17. Rb8
18. Nh4, thinking of slipping it into f5, but it's refuted with...18. g6.
19. 0-0 Be7 20. Qe2. I considered f4, I'll be happy to see any lines coming out of that one. 20. f5
21. Nf3 f4 22. Bd2 g5. Uh-oh, those pawns are sharpening their knives. My queen makes a gallant and somewhat reckless sortie into the corner.
23. Qa6 c6
24. dxc6 Nxc6 25. Rfd1 0-0 26. Qc4+ Kh8 27. Qd5 g4
I like this next bit.
28. Nxe5 Nxe5 29. Bc3 Bf6 30. Bxe5! gxh3 31. Bxf6+ Rxf6 32. Qe5 h2+
33. Kxh2 Rbf8 34. Rd3 Kg8 35. Rad1 Rh6+ 36. Kg1 Rff6 and the tumbleweed rolls across the board. There are SO many ways the game could've gone from here. It's too late at night for me to start exploring them, I'll leave that to my betters:whistle:
37. g3 Qh3! Eek! I panicked for a bit then saw a way out.
38. Qd5+ Kg7 39. e5 Rf5 40. Qg2 dxe5 41. Qxh3 Rxh3 42. Kg2 Rh6 I now proceed to cancel down the heavy pieces and snatch a pawn in the process, although much of it is thanks to his king.

43. Rd7+ Kg6 44. R7d6+ Kg5 45. Rxh6 Kxh6 46. Rd6+ Kg5 47. Rxb6 h5 This is when he starts looming with that sort of attack... but on the other side of the board my pawns are just waiting to scamper up to promotion. Assuming pawns scamper...

48. gxf4 Kxf4 A transparent hope at him doing exf4, hehe... 49. b4 Rg5+
50. Kf1 h4? Letting my pawn go, then? 51. Rf6+ Kg4 52. bxa5 h3 Well I'd lose that race.
53. Rh6 Rh5 54. Rxh5... and I'd pretty much won it from there, the game went on a little longer but it's predictable and wouldn't interest you.

So! Comments please!

Igor_Goldenberg
23-07-2007, 11:51 AM
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 Nc6 4. Bb5 Bd7 5. Nc3 a6 6. Ba4 f6 7. Be3 Qe7

Right...I'm happy with my opening, and his move 6 could've been better I think?

8. Nd5 Qd8 I threatened the fork, all's well...
9. Qd2 Nge7 10. Nxe7 Qxe7 11. d5 don't know if that clogs things up a bit 11...Na7
12. Bxd7+ Qxd7 13. Qb4 b6 14. Qd2 ...I wanted to keep my options open and feared c5, which in retrospect could've been answered with dxc6. But hey. He brings his queen out with 14... Qb5 , attacking b2.
15. b3 a5 16. a4 Qd7 17. h3 , blocking his queen from messing with my kingside. 17...Rb8
18. Nh4 , thinking of slipping it into f5, but it's refuted with 18... g6.
19. 0-0 Be7 20. Qe2. I considered f4, I'll be happy to see any lines coming out of that one. 20...f5
21. Nf3 f4 22. Bd2 g5 . Uh-oh, those pawns are sharpening their knives. My queen makes a gallant and somewhat reckless sortie into the corner.
23. Qa6 c6
24. dxc6 Nxc6 25. Rfd1 0-0 26. Qc4+ Kh8 27. Qd5 g4
I like this next bit.
28. Nxe5 Nxe5 29. Bc3 Bf6 30. Bxe5! gxh3 31. Bxf6+ Rxf6 32. Qe5 h2+
33. Kxh2 Rbf8 34. Rd3 Kg8 35. Rad1 Rh6+ 36. Kg1 Rff6 and the tumbleweed rolls across the board. There are SO many ways the game could've gone from here. It's too late at night for me to start exploring them, I'll leave that to my betters:whistle:
37. g3 Qh3! Eek! I panicked for a bit then saw a way out.
38. Qd5+ Kg7 39. e5 Rf5 40. Qg2 dxe5 41. Qxh3 Rxh3 42. Kg2 Rh6 I now proceed to cancel down the heavy pieces and snatch a pawn in the process, although much of it is thanks to his king.

43. Rd7+ Kg6 44. R7d6+ Kg5 45. Rxh6 Kxh6 46. Rd6+ Kg5 47. Rxb6 h5 This is when he starts looming with that sort of attack... but on the other side of the board my pawns are just waiting to scamper up to promotion. Assuming pawns scamper...
48. gxf4 Kxf4 A transparent hope at him doing exf4, hehe... 49. b4 Rg5+
50. Kf1 h4? Letting my pawn go, then? 51. Rf6+ Kg4 52. bxa5 h3 Well I'd lose that race.
53. Rh6 Rh5 54. Rxh5... and I'd pretty much won it from there, the game went on a little longer but it's predictable and wouldn't interest you.
So! Comments please!

Igor_Goldenberg
23-07-2007, 12:21 PM
28. Ne5 loses a piece, if black played 29...Qc7, they could comfortably retain the extra piece.
I don't like 32.Qe5, as after 32...de5 33.Rxd6 Rg8 black has an upper hand in four rook ending

On move 43 black shoud've played Rf7, keeping b6 pawn.

48.Rb5 (winning a5 pawn) would be better. No need to exchange on f4, letting black activate it's forces, and no need to exchange b pawn.
After 50...axb4 51.Rxb4+ e4 White would need to work very hard to win it (if it's still possible)

Capablanca-Fan
23-07-2007, 12:51 PM
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 Nc6 4. Bb5 Bd7 5. Nc3 a6? (just loses a pawn. 5... Nf6 is essential with a counterattack on White's P) 6. Ba4? (6. Bxc6 wins a P) 6... f6 7. Be3 Qe7 (Right...I'm happy with my opening, and his move 6 could've been better I think? J: White is much better. How does Black plan to develop the Q-side after clogging it with ... f6 and ... Qe7? Castling long would be foolhardy, since it would merely encourage White's natural plan of d5, c4 ...) 8. Nd5 Qd8 (I threatened the fork, all's well... J: this just drove the Q from its pathetic square) 9. Qd2 Nge7 10. Nxe7 Qxe7 11. d5 (don't know if that clogs things up a bit J: Can be good, because White's Q-side attack looks well ahead of any Black counteraction.) 11...Na7
12. Bxd7+ Qxd7 13. Qb4 (This helps Black. White has a natural plan with c4-c5, and 13. Bxa7 is probably good, with a promising good N v bad b position) 13 ...b6 14. Qd2 (I wanted to keep my options open and feared c5, which in retrospect could've been answered with dxc6. But hey. He brings his queen out with) 14... Qb5 (attacking b2) 15. b3 a5 16. a4 (16. c4 and c5 is the natural attacking plan for White, trying to open the c-file) 16... Qd7 17. h3 (blocking his queen from messing with my kingside. J: more likely, it provides a target for Black to open up lines. The pawns should have been left alone as long as possible) 17...Rb8 18. Nh4 (thinking of slipping it into f5, but it's refuted with) 18... g6. (J: it wasn't so bad. Black is so clogged that White can move on the K-side and centre) 19. 0-0 Be7 20. Qe2 (I considered f4, I'll be happy to see any lines coming out of that one. J: You'd need to consider the fork after 20... exf4 21. Bxf4 g5, but this is met by Qh5+ and Ng6) 20...f5
21. Nf3 f4 22. Bd2 g5 (Uh-oh, those pawns are sharpening their knives. My queen makes a gallant and somewhat reckless sortie into the corner. J: strange, you are worried about your K side and you send your Q off to the other side? If you want to batten down the K-side, try 23. Nh2. You could win a P by 23. Nxg5 Bxg5 24. Qh5+, and this seems OK in this position.)
23. Qa6 c6
24. dxc6 Nxc6 25. Rfd1 0-0 26. Qc4+ Kh8 27. Qd5 g4
(I like this next bit. J: as IG points out, this was unsound)
28. Nxe5 Nxe5 29. Bc3 Bf6 30. Bxe5! gxh3 (see what I mean about h3 offering a target for attack) 31. Bxf6+ Rxf6 32. Qe5 h2+
33. Kxh2 Rbf8 34. Rd3 Kg8 35. Rad1 Rh6+ 36. Kg1 Rff6 37. g3 Qh3!
38. Qd5+ Kg7 39. e5 Rf5 40. Qg2 dxe5 41. Qxh3 Rxh3 42. Kg2 Rh6 43. Rd7+ Kg6 44. R7d6+ Kg5 45. Rxh6 Kxh6 46. Rd6+ Kg5 47. Rxb6 h5 48. gxf4 Kxf4 49. b4 Rg5+ 50. Kf1 h4? 51. Rf6+ Kg4 52. bxa5 h3 53. Rh6 Rh5 54. Rxh5 (and won easily; Black could give up here)

Garvinator
23-07-2007, 01:21 PM
Jono, your pgn version doesnt play.

Igor_Goldenberg
23-07-2007, 02:56 PM
Jono, your pgn version doesnt play.
That's why I did not insert my comments into pgn, can't figure out the format

Zwischenzug
23-07-2007, 05:18 PM
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 Nc6 4. Bb5 Bd7 5. Nc3 a6? (just loses a pawn. 5... Nf6 is essential with a counterattack on White's P) 6. Ba4? (6.Bxc6 wins a P) 6...f6 7. Be3 Qe7 {Right...I'm happy with my opening, and his move 6 could've been better I think? J: White is much better. How does Black plan to develop the Q-side after clogging it with ... f6 and ... Qe7? Castling long would be foolhardy, since it would merely encourage White's natural plan of d5, c4 ...} 8. Nd5 Qd8 {I threatened the fork, all's well... J: this just drove the Q from its pathetic square} 9. Qd2 Nge7 10. Nxe7 Qxe7 11. d5 {don't know if that clogs things up a bit J: Can be good, because White's Q-side attack looks well ahead of any Black counteraction.} 11...Na7
12. Bxd7+ Qxd7 13. Qb4 (This helps Black. White has a natural plan with c4-c5, and 13. Bxa7 is probably good, with a promising good N v bad b position) 13 ...b6 14. Qd2 {I wanted to keep my options open and feared c5, which in retrospect could've been answered with dxc6. But hey. He brings his queen out with} 14... Qb5 {attacking b2} 15. b3 a5 16. a4 (16. c4 and c5 is the natural attacking plan for White, trying to open the c-file) 16... Qd7 17. h3 {blocking his queen from messing with my kingside. J: more likely, it provides a target for Black to open up lines. The pawns should have been left alone as long as possible} 17...Rb8 18. Nh4 {thinking of slipping it into f5, but it's refuted with} 18... g6. {J: it wasn't so bad. Black is so clogged that White can move on the K-side and centre} 19. 0-0 Be7 20. Qe2 {I considered f4, I'll be happy to see any lines coming out of that one. J: You'd need to consider the fork after 20... exf4 21. Bxf4 g5, but this is met by Qh5+ and Ng6} 20...f5
21. Nf3 f4 22. Bd2 g5 {Uh-oh, those pawns are sharpening their knives. My queen makes a gallant and somewhat reckless sortie into the corner. J: strange, you are worried about your K side and you send your Q off to the other side? If you want to batten down the K-side, try 23. Nh2. You could win a P by 23. Nxg5 Bxg5 24. Qh5+, and this seems OK in this position.}
23. Qa6 c6
24. dxc6 Nxc6 25. Rfd1 0-0 26. Qc4+ Kh8 27. Qd5 g4
{I like this next bit. J: as IG points out, this was unsound}
28. Nxe5 Nxe5 29. Bc3 Bf6 30. Bxe5! gxh3 {see what I mean about h3 offering a target for attack} 31. Bxf6+ Rxf6 32. Qe5 h2+
33. Kxh2 Rbf8 34. Rd3 Kg8 35. Rad1 Rh6+ 36. Kg1 Rff6 37. g3 Qh3!
38. Qd5+ Kg7 39. e5 Rf5 40. Qg2 dxe5 41. Qxh3 Rxh3 42. Kg2 Rh6 43. Rd7+ Kg6 44. R7d6+ Kg5 45. Rxh6 Kxh6 46. Rd6+ Kg5 47. Rxb6 h5 48. gxf4 Kxf4 49. b4 Rg5+ 50. Kf1 h4? 51. Rf6+ Kg4 52. bxa5 h3 53. Rh6 Rh5 54. Rxh5 {and won easily; Black could give up here}

Jono's PGN Viewer fixed. After visiting http://chesschat.org/showthread.php?t=918 I learnt the following:

Variations MUST be surrounded by ()'s
Comments can be surrounded by {}'s but not necessary
Comments within variations don't need {}'s
Comments that don't have any moves/variations in them need {}

Oh yeah, f6 was a horrible move, takes away black's natural Nf6, Qe7 makes things even worse, now the f-knight only has h6. I would have played ...b5 ...Nf6 ...Be7 ...0-0.

General ideas? Black was extremely cramped in the opening, exchanges allowed black to free his position a bit and fight back. White's strategy should be aimed at keeping black bottled up but I guess you can argue that white's piece exchanges leaves black with nothing but a bad bishop towards the end.

White's game was alright, I am much more critical of black's play.

Capablanca-Fan
23-07-2007, 09:09 PM
Jono's PGN Viewer fixed.
Thanx :clap:

Basil
26-07-2007, 09:56 AM
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