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Southpaw Jim
28-06-2007, 11:32 PM
A game I played on FICS tonight. Apart from the miscalculated pawn exchange around move 30 under extreme time pressure (<20 secs on guillotine clock) there no big tactical wowsers, but I'm assuming I had some positional problems? Just felt that the initiative slipped away from me... :(

White: JimAbbott
Black: groovyhassle
Result: 0-1
ECO: C45
WhiteElo: 1273
BlackElo: 1301
TimeControl: 1800

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Nxd4 5. Qxd4 d6 6. Nc3 a6 7. Bc4 Qf6 8. Qxf6 Nxf6 9. Bg5 Be7 10. O-O-O h6 11. Bxf6 Bxf6 12. Nd5 Bd8 13. f4 b5 14. Bd3 O-O 15. f5 c6 16. Nc3 Bf6 17. Ne2 Bb7 18. Kb1 Rfe8 19. Ng3 d5 20. Rhe1 b4 21. exd5 cxd5 22. Nh5 d4 23. Nxf6+ gxf6 24. Rxe8+ Rxe8 25. b3 a5 26. Bb5 Rd8 27. g4 Kf8 28. h4 Rd6 29. Re1 Rd8 30. g5 fxg5 31. hxg5 hxg5 32. Re5 f6 33. Re6 Kf7 {White forfeits on time} 0-1

Rybka suggests 8.Qe3 rather than Qxf6. Couple of other improvements, but as I say, no "?" moves apart from 30.g5.

Anyone got any strategic/positional advice? I exchanged Qs in anticipation of maybe getting a K-side pawn storm rolling... did I have a better plan to pursue? :hmm:

Kevin Bonham
29-06-2007, 12:04 AM
I'm not mad-keen on 15.f5. It gives you a badly backwards e-pawn which assists Black to open the board for the two bishops (and gives the dark-square bishop good squares).

However ...d4 from Black is pretty hard to fathom as it gives up the bishop pair and incurs a pawn weakness. White is better after that. Towards the end, activating the king with the idea of having a go at winning Black's isolated d-pawn is a good plan. You could do this right away with 25.Kc1 followed by Kd2 and maybe at some stage R-f1-f4. White has good chances there.

29-06-2007, 12:25 AM
Hi, Euro

I think that Black's strategy of offering wholesale exchanges from the opening is not so good. I think that rather than 8.Qxf6, or 8.Qe3, I prefer 8.Be3 and white is even further ahead in development. If black enforces the exchange by c7-c5, White has gained a useful backward d6 pawn to work on, and if Black exchanges on d4, and then plays c5 in an attempt to trap the Bc4 via a later b5, then the Bc4 can go to d5, hitting the Ra8, still with White having the better game.

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

road runner
01-07-2007, 01:49 PM
I certainly agree that Qxf6 is a weak move. Black's queen is poorly placed there, obstructing the natural development of the Ng8. I would prefer moving the queen, since this prevents a queen swap if black really wants to pursue that, and also on 8.Be3 Qg6 looks a bit annoying because if 9.0-0 then Bh3. Perhaps also possible is to let black have the g-pawn if he wants it with 9.0-0-0. It might be that white has good play for the pawn here, but I think the simple 9.Qe3 and white has a decent advantage out of the opening.

Jesse Jager
03-07-2007, 07:25 PM
I will go with the crowed and suggest that Qxf6 is perhaps the most serious mistake since it misses an opportunity to obtain a large advantage with either Be3 or Qe3. I don't white needs to worry about boris's suggestion of
Qg6 after Be3 since, after 0-0-0 whites advantage is nearly overwhelming.

Furthermore, I'm not really sure about the plan involving Bg5 and Bxf6 followed by Nd5. Although whites position looks asythesically better I don't see how white can make significant progress, since black always seems to have the option of c6 booting the knight, perhaps Be3 followed by f4 is sufficient to maitain a slight edge. I think the main problem with this position is the fact that white has thrown away his chance at a significant advantage with Qxf6 and probably can't hope for more than a slight plus anyway.