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markus
14-04-2007, 06:01 PM
Here's an idiotic game, ended up with stalemate.

1.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 2.Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 3.Nc3-e4 Nf6-d5 4.e2-e3 e7-e6 5.d2-d4 f7-f6 6.Nf3-g1 Nc6-b8 7.Ne4-g3 Nd5-b6 8.c2-c4 Nb8-c6 9.Ng1-e2 Bf8-d6 10.Ne2-f4 0-0 11.Bf1-d3 Bd6-e7 12.0-0 Ra8-b8 13.b2-b3 d7-d6 14.Nf4-e2 Nb6-a8 15.Bc1-b2 Na8-b6 16.Ne2-f4 Bc8-d7 17.Nf4xe6 Bd7-c8 18.Ne6xf8 Qd8-d7 19.Nf8xd7 Nb6-a8 20.Nd7xb8 Nc6-d8 21.Nb8-c6 Nd8-f7 22.Nc6xe7+ Kg8-h8 23.Ne7xc8 Nf7-e5 24.d4xe5 d6xe5 25.Qd1-h5 Na8-b6 26.Qh5-h3 Nb6-d5 27.Qh3-f5 Nd5-f4 28.Qf5-e6 Nf4-h3+ 29.Kg1-h1 Nh3-f4 30.Rf1-g1 Nf4-h3 31.Qe6-e7 Kh8-g8 32.Qe7xc7 Kg8-h8 33.Qc7xb7 Kh8-g8 34.Qb7xa7 Kg8-h8 35.Qa7-c5 Kh8-g8 36.Qc5xe5 Kg8-h8 37.Qe5xf6 Kh8-g8 38.Qf6-h6 Kg8-h8 39.Qh6xh3 Kh8-g8 40.Qh3xh7+ Kg8-f8 41.Qh7xg7+ Kf8-e8 42.Bd3-g6+ Ke8-d8 43.Qg7-h6 Kd8-d7 44.Nc8-a7 Kd7-d8 45.a2-a4 Kd8-e7 46.b3-b4 Ke7-d8 47.Na7-b5 Kd8-c8 48.a4-a5 Kc8-d8 49.Nb5-c3 Kd8-c8 50.b4-b5 Kc8-d7 51.c4-c5 Kd7-e6 52.c5-c6 Ke6-d6 53.c6-c7 Kd6-c5 54.b5-b6 Kc5-d6 55.c7-c8Q Kd6-e7 56.Qc8-a6 Ke7-d8 57.b6-b7 Kd8-e7 58.b7-b8Q Ke7-d7 59.Qb8-b3 Kd7-d8 60.Qa6-f1 Kd8-c8 61.a5-a6 Kc8-d8 62.a6-a7 Kd8-d7 63.a7-a8Q Kd7-d6 64.Qa8-a2 Kd6-d7 65.f2-f3 Kd7-d8 66.e3-e4 Kd8-c8 67.Qb3-c2 Kc8-b7 68.Qa2-b1 Kb7-b8 69.e4-e5 Kb8-b7 70.e5-e6 Kb7-b6 71.e6-e7 Kb6-b7 72.e7-e8Q Kb7-b6 73.Qe8-e1 Kb6-b7 74.Qe1-c1 Kb7-c7 75.Nc3-a2+ Kc7-b7 76.Bg6-e8 Kb7-b8 77.Bb2-c3+ Kb8-c8 78.Be8-a4 Kc8-d8 79.Ba4-b3 Kd8-c8 80.Qh6-d2 Kc8-b8 81.Qc2-b2 Kb8-c8 82.Qd2-c2 Kc8-b7 83.f3-f4 Kb7-c8 84.f4-f5 Kc8-b8 85.f5-f6 Kb8-c7 86.f6-f7 Kc7-b7 87.f7-f8Q Kb7-c7 88.Qf8-f2 Kc7-b8 89.Ng3-e4 Kb8-c8 90.g2-g3 Kc8-b8 91.g3-g4 Kb8-c8 92.g4-g5 Kc8-b8 93.g5-g6 Kb8-c7 94.g6-g7 Kc7-b7 95.g7-g8Q Kb7-c7 96.Qg8-g2 Kc7-b8 97.h2-h4 Kb8-c8 98.h4-h5 Kc8-b8 99.h5-h6 Kb8-b7 100.h6-h7 Kb7-c7 101.h7-h8Q Kc7-b7 102.Qh8-h2 Kb7-c8 103.Ne4-g3 Kc8-c7 104.Ng3-e4+ Kc7-c6 105.Qf1-d1 Kc6-b5 106.Bb3-g8+ Kb5-c6 107.Bg8-d5+ Kc6-d7 108.Qd1-f1 Kd7-e8 109.Ne4-d2 Ke8-d7 110.Qh2-h8 Kd7-d6 111.Qg2-h2+ Kd6xd5 112.Qf2-g2+ Kd5-c5 113.Nd2-c4 (Stalemate)

Zwischenzug
14-04-2007, 11:12 PM
1.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 2.Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 3.Nc3-e4 Nf6-d5 4.e2-e3 e7-e6 5.d2-d4 f7-f6 6.Nf3-g1 Nc6-b8 7.Ne4-g3 Nd5-b6 8.c2-c4 Nb8-c6 9.Ng1-e2 Bf8-d6 10.Ne2-f4 0-0 11.Bf1-d3 Bd6-e7 12.0-0 Ra8-b8 13.b2-b3 d7-d6 14.Nf4-e2 Nb6-a8 15.Bc1-b2 Na8-b6 16.Ne2-f4 Bc8-d7 17.Nf4xe6 Bd7-c8 18.Ne6xf8 Qd8-d7 19.Nf8xd7 Nb6-a8 20.Nd7xb8 Nc6-d8 21.Nb8-c6 Nd8-f7 22.Nc6xe7+ Kg8-h8 23.Ne7xc8 Nf7-e5 24.d4xe5 d6xe5 25.Qd1-h5 Na8-b6 26.Qh5-h3 Nb6-d5 27.Qh3-f5 Nd5-f4 28.Qf5-e6 Nf4-h3+ 29.Kg1-h1 Nh3-f4 30.Rf1-g1 Nf4-h3 31.Qe6-e7 Kh8-g8 32.Qe7xc7 Kg8-h8 33.Qc7xb7 Kh8-g8 34.Qb7xa7 Kg8-h8 35.Qa7-c5 Kh8-g8 36.Qc5xe5 Kg8-h8 37.Qe5xf6 Kh8-g8 38.Qf6-h6 Kg8-h8 39.Qh6xh3 Kh8-g8 40.Qh3xh7+ Kg8-f8 41.Qh7xg7+ Kf8-e8 42.Bd3-g6+ Ke8-d8 43.Qg7-h6 Kd8-d7 44.Nc8-a7 Kd7-d8 45.a2-a4 Kd8-e7 46.b3-b4 Ke7-d8 47.Na7-b5 Kd8-c8 48.a4-a5 Kc8-d8 49.Nb5-c3 Kd8-c8 50.b4-b5 Kc8-d7 51.c4-c5 Kd7-e6 52.c5-c6 Ke6-d6 53.c6-c7 Kd6-c5 54.b5-b6 Kc5-d6 55.c7-c8Q Kd6-e7 56.Qc8-a6 Ke7-d8 57.b6-b7 Kd8-e7 58.b7-b8Q Ke7-d7 59.Qb8-b3 Kd7-d8 60.Qa6-f1 Kd8-c8 61.a5-a6 Kc8-d8 62.a6-a7 Kd8-d7 63.a7-a8Q Kd7-d6 64.Qa8-a2 Kd6-d7 65.f2-f3 Kd7-d8 66.e3-e4 Kd8-c8 67.Qb3-c2 Kc8-b7 68.Qa2-b1 Kb7-b8 69.e4-e5 Kb8-b7 70.e5-e6 Kb7-b6 71.e6-e7 Kb6-b7 72.e7-e8Q Kb7-b6 73.Qe8-e1 Kb6-b7 74.Qe1-c1 Kb7-c7 75.Nc3-a2+ Kc7-b7 76.Bg6-e8 Kb7-b8 77.Bb2-c3+ Kb8-c8 78.Be8-a4 Kc8-d8 79.Ba4-b3 Kd8-c8 80.Qh6-d2 Kc8-b8 81.Qc2-b2 Kb8-c8 82.Qd2-c2 Kc8-b7 83.f3-f4 Kb7-c8 84.f4-f5 Kc8-b8 85.f5-f6 Kb8-c7 86.f6-f7 Kc7-b7 87.f7-f8Q Kb7-c7 88.Qf8-f2 Kc7-b8 89.Ng3-e4 Kb8-c8 90.g2-g3 Kc8-b8 91.g3-g4 Kb8-c8 92.g4-g5 Kc8-b8 93.g5-g6 Kb8-c7 94.g6-g7 Kc7-b7 95.g7-g8Q Kb7-c7 96.Qg8-g2 Kc7-b8 97.h2-h4 Kb8-c8 98.h4-h5 Kc8-b8 99.h5-h6 Kb8-b7 100.h6-h7 Kb7-c7 101.h7-h8Q Kc7-b7 102.Qh8-h2 Kb7-c8 103.Ne4-g3 Kc8-c7 104.Ng3-e4+ Kc7-c6 105.Qf1-d1 Kc6-b5 106.Bb3-g8+ Kb5-c6 107.Bg8-d5+ Kc6-d7 108.Qd1-f1 Kd7-e8 109.Ne4-d2 Ke8-d7 110.Qh2-h8 Kd7-d6 111.Qg2-h2+ Kd6xd5 112.Qf2-g2+ Kd5-c5 113.Nd2-c4 (Stalemate)

Move 12 is an illegal move. The knight returned to g1 blocking white from castling short.

Axiom
14-04-2007, 11:14 PM
cmon markus,its not that idiotic is it? ;)

Aaron Guthrie
14-04-2007, 11:20 PM
Move 12 is an illegal move. The knight returned to g1 blocking white from castling short.The pgn viewer is interpreting 9.Ng1-e2 as 9.Ng3-e2, for some reason. And then after fixing that it moves the wrong knight on move 14, so I'm not gonna go through and fix it all.

Bill Gletsos
14-04-2007, 11:58 PM
Try this instead.

1. Nf3 Nc6 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Ne4 Nd5 4. e3 e6 5. d4 f6 6. Ng1 Nb8 7. Ng3 Nb6 8. c4 Nc6 9. N1e2 Bd6 10. Nf4 O-O 11. Bd3 Be7 12. O-O Rb8 13. b3 d6 14. Nfe2 Na8 15. Bb2 Nb6 16. Nf4 Bd7 17. Nxe6 Bc8 18. Nxf8 Qd7 19. Nxd7 Na8 20. Nxb8 Nd8 21. Nc6 Nf7 22. Nxe7+ Kh8 23. Nxc8 Ne5 24. dxe5 dxe5 25. Qh5 Nb6 26. Qh3 Nd5 27. Qf5 Nf4 28. Qe6 Nh3+ 29. Kh1 Nf4 30. Rg1 Nh3 31. Qe7 Kg8 32. Qxc7 Kh8 33. Qxb7 Kg8 34. Qxa7 Kh8 35. Qc5 Kg8 36. Qxe5 Kh8 37. Qxf6 Kg8 38. Qh6 Kh8 39. Qxh3 Kg8 40. Qxh7+ Kf8 41. Qxg7+ Ke8 42. Bg6+ Kd8 43. Qh6 Kd7 44. Na7 Kd8 45. a4 Ke7 46. b4 Kd8 47. Nb5 Kc8 48. a5 Kd8 49. Nc3 Kc8 50. b5 Kd7 51. c5 Ke6 52. c6 Kd6 53. c7 Kc5 54. b6 Kd6 55. c8=Q Ke7 56. Qa6 Kd8 57. b7 Ke7 58. b8=Q Kd7 59. Qb3 Kd8 60. Qf1 Kc8 61. a6 Kd8 62. a7 Kd7 63. a8=Q Kd6 64. Qaa2 Kd7 65. f3 Kd8 66. e4 Kc8 67. Qc2 Kb7 68. Qab1 Kb8 69. e5 Kb7 70. e6 Kb6 71. e7 Kb7 72. e8=Q Kb6 73. Qee1 Kb7 74. Qec1 Kc7 75. Na2+ Kb7 76. Be8 Kb8 77. Bc3+ Kc8 78. Ba4 Kd8 79. Bb3 Kc8 80. Qhd2 Kb8 81. Q2b2 Kc8 82. Qdc2 Kb7 83. f4 Kc8 84. f5 Kb8 85. f6 Kc7 86. f7 Kb7 87. f8=Q Kc7 88. Q8f2 Kb8 89. Ne4 Kc8 90. g3 Kb8 91. g4 Kc8 92. g5 Kb8 93. g6 Kc7 94. g7 Kb7 95. g8=Q Kc7 96. Qgg2 Kb8 97. h4 Kc8 98. h5 Kb8 99. h6 Kb7 100. h7 Kc7 101. h8=Q Kb7 102. Qhh2 Kc8 103. Ng3 Kc7 104. Ne4+ Kc6 105. Qfd1 Kb5 106. Bg8+ Kc6 107. Bd5+ Kd7 108. Qdf1 Ke8 109. Nd2 Kd7 110. Qh8 Kd6 111. Qgh2+ Kxd5 112. Qf2g2+ Kc5 113. Nc4 *

Aaron Guthrie
15-04-2007, 12:23 AM
Skipping to the end gave me a smile. Is there a story behind the game?

I remember a computer on ICC had its decision procedure being randomly picking a move. I thought it would be funny to have a computer actively try and pick the worst moves. Or even better, actively try and lose against other computers trying to do the same thing.

markus
15-04-2007, 05:17 AM
Story behind the game: My creation. The black was me, and the white was also me. I would like to show a game with very absurd advantage ended up in stalemate. It is expected to have many idiotic moves, e.g. the black king never capture any white pieces at all until move 111--- I intend to show that the king actually trying to get all the pieces meanwhile the black, this turn would not mate the black king (It is too challenging so I skipped it. They had 7 queens by the end of this game)

Special feature: There are almost 100 chances to mate in this game, but it ended up stalemate.

This game starts with a Reti Opening, all of the 4 knights came to a more central position, then the knights move randomly, except a brief interrupt early at move 4. Later on, the Black insists not to capture any pieces from the white, and not defence themselves either, such that it ended up with only a knight, a king and some pawns. White had a far better position, undoubtedly.

The white then tried to capture each of the pawns and the knight. The knight then moved to a comfortable position from a8 to h3, readily for mating the white king. In the meantime, the white let the black knight to have a chance to mate by blocking the king into the corner h1. Well, that was a chance for black to mate in one. (The white already had a chance to mate... but not until move 113 the white actually trying to mate... however, STALEMATE!)

Zwischenzug
15-04-2007, 10:05 AM
There was a mate in the end though white missed it: 113.Bd4#

markus
15-04-2007, 05:02 PM
There was a mate in the end though white missed it: 113.Bd4#

Yep!

Igor_Goldenberg
19-04-2007, 11:57 AM
There was a mate in the end though white missed it: 113.Bd4#

Maybe there are some other ways white could try for a win at move 113?

Zwischenzug
19-04-2007, 05:41 PM
Maybe there are some other ways white could try for a win at move 113?

Actually the are many mates:

113.Ba5#
113.Be5#
113.Bf6#
113.Bg7#
113.Qb6#
113.Qe5#
113.Qc4#

There probably are more mates at 113, I just can't be bothered finding them.

bergil
19-04-2007, 05:45 PM
Actually the are many mates:

113.Ba5#
113.Be5#
113.Bf6#
113.Bg7#
113.Qb6#
113.Qe5#
113.Qc4#

There probably are more mates at 113, I just can't be bothered finding them.
Are you sure? :eek:

Zwischenzug
19-04-2007, 06:02 PM
Are you sure? :eek:

Do you mean am I sure of the mates I found or am I sure that there are more mates that I haven't found? Well, there is at least Qb4#, Qb5# that I missed earlier on.

MichaelBaron
19-04-2007, 10:59 PM
So what is the purpose of analysing this game?:hmm:

WhiteElephant
19-04-2007, 11:18 PM
LOL! I can't believe this thread is still going. I reckon of all the threads on ChessChat, this has to be one of the most ridiculous.

Very amusing though, especially Igor's comment!

Rincewind
19-04-2007, 11:29 PM
LOL! I can't believe this thread is still going. I reckon of all the threads on ChessChat, this has to be one of the most ridicululous.

I think you just don't get it. ;)

WhiteElephant
20-04-2007, 12:38 AM
I think you just don't get it. ;)

:)

Well it got me posting after a few weeks off so that's a good thing.

Or is it?

PS I like your new Avatar.

Rincewind
20-04-2007, 02:03 AM
Well it got me posting after a few weeks off so that's a good thing.

Or is it?

PS I like your new Avatar.

I look at this thread as Dada chess. Not so much a movement in chess, but rather anti-chess. Following logic in chess has lead us to MCO, NCO, ECO, tablebases etc, etc.

Chess has been calling out for Dada for a long time. Finally markus arrives and is our saviour.

Aaron Guthrie
20-04-2007, 03:08 AM
A friend of mine likes to tell a stories about smart guys (uni educated) that play really bad moves. For example in response to Bb2 attacking the knight on f6 the response was to move the knight. Makes sense, stops the 'threat'. Problem is then White takes on g7 (and gets the rook next move.)

WhiteElephant
20-04-2007, 09:08 AM
I look at this thread as Dada chess. Not so much a movement in chess, but rather anti-chess. Following logic in chess has lead us to MCO, NCO, ECO, tablebases etc, etc.

Chess has been calling out for Dada for a long time. Finally markus arrives and is our saviour.

Of course! Now it makes sense. A deconstruction of chess.

Desmond
20-04-2007, 09:12 AM
Maybe there are some other ways white could try for a win at move 113?Really? I always thought this was a book draw. Perhaps Black erronously headed for this position, unaware that White has a winning plan.