Game 35: Sunshine v Howard Duggan [Archive] - Chess Chat

Garvinator

28-01-2007, 11:54 PM

Game 35: Sunshine v Howard Duggan

Sunshine

29-01-2007, 01:57 AM

e4

All the best Howard.

I'm on different timezone for the next week (vietnam and Singapore) - so the start might be a bit slow.

Basil

29-01-2007, 02:01 AM

GL to you too. Asia? You might run into my brother :doh: Anyway, here's some Scandinavian flavour to keep it global.

1.e4 d5

Sunshine

30-01-2007, 12:31 AM

Nf3

I think I might have met your brother - does he have dark hair ?

Basil

30-01-2007, 12:43 AM

*LOL* I confess to a momentary twitch in my hand as I went for the mouse to reply. He's actually in Taiwan. Now what's this rubbish you're playing? Did you miss my move or Nf3 this a thing?

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4

Sunshine

30-01-2007, 01:02 AM

I learned a lot about life and people from Doris Stokes.

Ng5

It gets harder every day to find something that's not in the book.

Basil

30-01-2007, 01:12 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6

1. OK, I'll maintain the scorecard ;)
2. There's a book!?
3. Who in God's name is Doris Stokes?

Sunshine

30-01-2007, 01:22 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4. Nc6

1. Message received.
2. It is probably an MP3 by now - but it use to be a book
3. Doris Stokes was a British TV clairvoyant in the 1970s - she would amaze people by making broad statement and then narrowing in depending on their response.

Basil

30-01-2007, 01:30 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5
I've taken the liberty of resorting to cheating by re-writing your moves. However I am an honest cheat and feel compelled to tell you I changed your Nc6 to Nc3. Besides I thought he might get a hernia so early in the game.

Sunshine

30-01-2007, 01:48 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 Bc4

I'm still adjusting to this new decimal notation.

Basil

30-01-2007, 02:11 PM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6

Apologies for dropping off the air last night. Storm. Tripped circuit! Kids! Dogs!

Sunshine

30-01-2007, 04:18 PM

f3

Basil

30-01-2007, 05:49 PM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4

Sunshine

30-01-2007, 07:43 PM

Qe2

Basil

30-01-2007, 08:32 PM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6

Sunshine

31-01-2007, 12:27 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4

Basil

31-01-2007, 01:30 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5

Sunshine

31-01-2007, 01:43 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9. c3

Basil

31-01-2007, 02:11 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6

Sunshine

31-01-2007, 02:16 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10. Bxd5

Basil

31-01-2007, 02:34 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6
ouch! i'm going to have trouble sleeping tonight! :) wake up with a headache.

Sunshine

31-01-2007, 08:30 PM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11. Ng3

There was something in the rules about your rooks and queen bishops - but I don't think it applied to to the king knight. Might be worth checking at this point though.

Basil

31-01-2007, 10:49 PM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5
Yup, still sore.

Sunshine

31-01-2007, 11:42 PM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12. Bxc6+

Basil

31-01-2007, 11:53 PM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6

Sunshine

01-02-2007, 12:11 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13. Nxf5

Basil

01-02-2007, 12:21 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2

Sunshine

01-02-2007, 12:28 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 Rxh2

Basil

01-02-2007, 12:34 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+

Sunshine

01-02-2007, 12:36 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15. Qf1

Basil

01-02-2007, 12:37 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2

Sunshine

01-02-2007, 12:45 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16. Nd4

Basil

01-02-2007, 01:01 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+

Sunshine

01-02-2007, 01:17 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17. Kd1

Basil

01-02-2007, 01:54 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6

Sunshine

01-02-2007, 02:00 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18. Qa6

Basil

01-02-2007, 02:14 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8

Sunshine

01-02-2007, 01:28 PM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6

Basil

02-02-2007, 12:16 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8

Sunshine

03-02-2007, 08:50 AM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20. g4

Basil

03-02-2007, 07:01 PM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20.g4 Bf4

Sunshine

03-02-2007, 07:27 PM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20.g4 Bf4 21. Qc5+

Basil

03-02-2007, 07:44 PM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20.g4 Bf4 21.Qc5+ Kg8[/pgn]

Sunshine

03-02-2007, 08:12 PM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20.g4 Bf4 21.Qc5+ Kg8 22. Qxa7

Basil

03-02-2007, 08:36 PM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20.g4 Bf4 21.Qc5+ Kg8 22.Qxa7 Qf2

Sunshine

03-02-2007, 08:43 PM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20.g4 Bf4 21.Qc5+ Kg8 22.Qxa7 Qf2 23. Kc2

Basil

03-02-2007, 08:58 PM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20.g4 Bf4 21.Qc5+ Kg8 22.Qxa7 Qf2 23. Kc2 Rc8

Sunshine

03-02-2007, 09:19 PM

1.e4 d5 2.Nf3 dxe4 3.Ng5 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bf5 5.Bc4 e6 6.f3 Qd4 7.Qe2 Nc6 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 9.c3 Qb6 10.Bxd5 h6 11.Ng3 hxg5 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.Nxf5 Rxh2 14.Rxh2 Qg1+ 15.Qf1 Qxh2 16.Nd4 Qh4+ 17.Kd1 Bd6 18.Qa6 Kf8 19. Qxc6 Rd8 20.g4 Bf4 21.Qc5+ Kg8 22.Qxa7 Qf2 23. Kc2 Rc8 24. Nc6

Basil

03-02-2007, 09:30 PM

1-0 GG Well played.

Was your opening a thing or were you just messin' with a patzer!? I'd really like to do that again one day 'cause I reckon it's as 'orrible as Axiom's possum! :whistle:

Sunshine

03-02-2007, 09:49 PM

Thanks for the game Howard - we are now even.

I've got a lot of offbeat openings - but nothing that is really my thing.

I've always be good at spotting and avoiding prepared lines - but never committed enough to prepare anything in detail myself.

You'll get chances in most games no matter what the opening is.
In this type of game the critical moves come early - this time it was your move 8.

Basil

03-02-2007, 09:52 PM

Thanks for the game Howard - we are now even.

I've got a lot of offbeat openings - but nothing that is really my thing.

I've always be good at spotting and avoiding prepared lines - but never committed enough to prepare anything in detail myself.

You'll get chances in most games no matter what the opening is.
In this type of game the critical moves come early - this time it was your move 8.

By 'thing', I meant is it a known opening (albeit off-beat) or were you just making it up as you went along?

Yes, move was bad and you were good enough to punish - so full credit.

Sunshine

03-02-2007, 10:06 PM

I'm pretty sure it is an accepted opening - so yes it is "thing".

Basil

04-02-2007, 11:05 PM

I've put the opening through HIARCS (analysis from black's perspective on 20 secs a move).

I says white is not good at all.
After move 4, black is +1.2 or so although it preferred 4... Qd4 two moves later
After move 7, ... e3 would have had black +1.6

I confess to stopping the analysis shortly thereafter as I didn't want to see how far the score dropped - but I have a fair idea :uhoh:

1. e4 d5 2. Nf3 dxe4 3. Ng5 Nf6 { 0.00 3... Bf5 } 4. Nc3 Bf5 { +1.22 4... Qd4 }
5. Bc4 e6 6. f3 Qd4 7. Qe2 Nc6 { +1.67 7... e3 } 8. Ncxe4 Nd5 { +1.30 8... Ne5
} 9. c3 Qb6

Sunshine

05-02-2007, 03:43 PM

I'm not sure I follow all of what you are saying - but I agree 7 .... e3 was a strong move which forces Ne4.

Are you saying that your position is still better after 8 .... Nd5 , because I find that hard to believe.

If you are also saying that I was a pawn down in a sharp position - well that was the idea.

I am assuming HIARCS suppose to be the final word on the subject - but what strength is it on 20 secs a move ?