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Zwischenzug
26-10-2006, 10:52 PM
Hi. These two games I just played online (around 30 min per game). The moves might not be very deep and probably full of mistakes but I did enjoy these games. I normally play the Scandinavian with black but sometimes it transposes to the French Defense.

Game 1:

(213) ALB36 (1586) - Zwichenzug (1578) [b]C02]
Rated game, 15m + 1s Café, 26.10.2006
1.e4 d5 2.e5 e6 3.d4 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qb6 6.Be2 Be7 7.0–0 Nh6 8.b3 Bd7 9.Bg5 f6 10.Bxh6 gxh6
11.a4 0–0–0 12.Bb5 Rhg8 13.Bxc6 Bxc6 14.Nbd2 fxe5 15.Nxe5 c4 16.b4 Qc7 17.b5 Be8 18.Qb1 b6
19.Ndf3 Bg6 20.Qa2 Rdf8 21.Nc6 Rxf3 22.Nxe7+ Qxe7 23.gxf3 Bb1+ 24.Kh1 Bxa2 25.Rxa2 Qg5 0–1

Game 2:

(216) Ludomada (1724) - Zwichenzug (1571) [b]C02]
Rated game, 30m + 1s Café, 26.10.2006
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.c3 Qb6 6.Qc2 f6 7.Be3 Be7 8.Nbd2 Bd7 9.Be2 Nh6 10.Bxh6 gxh6
11.Bd3 fxe5 12.Nxe5 Nxe5 13.dxe5 0–0–0 14.0–0–0 Qa5 15.Kb1 Ba4 16.b3 c4 17.bxa4 cxd3 18.Qb3 Kb8
19.f4 Rc8 20.Qb5 Qxc3 21.Qb2 Qa5 22.Nb3 Qxa4 23.Rxd3 Rc6 24.Qd2 Rhc8 25.Qa5 Qe4 26.Rhd1 Bb4
27.Qa4 Rc3 28.Kb2 Rxd3 29.Rxd3 Bc3+ 30.Rxc3 Qxa4 0–1

Kevin Bonham
27-10-2006, 05:21 AM
The title of this thread is of course music to my ears since I have played the French with black at every single opportunity in rated games now going back 20 years!

Whan playing the French, always look for opportunities to overload the white centre. In game 1, 9...Bxg5 forces the knight away from its defence of the d-pawn and therefore wins a pawn! Your 0-0-0 was rather risky and white could have won a pawn on move 16. Move 19 again White could win a pawn (h7) and later if White plays 21.a5 I think that his attack might just get there first. But White wasn't sharp enough and 21...Rxf3 is a crushing blow! (It comes up a lot in the French but you don't usually get it with the other rook on the half-open g-file!)

Game 2, you should win a pawn with 6...cxd4. Always look for chances to win pawns in the first ten moves in the French since many Whites will not know how to stop you. :D Your 0-0-0 in this one was fine. White missed 17.Bxc4! which wins a pawn; after that you played some sharp attacking moves and demolished him, nicely done! Good example of how white can run away from the half-open g-file after taking on h6 yet wind up in even more trouble on the other side. A lot of the most enjoyable smashes with the French are like this, white winds up busted on both sides of the board at once. :D

qpawn
28-10-2006, 09:42 PM
Kevin Bonham
Macavity
Viktor Korchnoi
Wolfgang Uhlman
Qpawn [ well, ok, it is poetic licence to put me in any group that is "great".]

:lol:

What I like a lot about the French defence is that it is the only defence, apart from the Sicillian, where black has an enormous say in the style of game played. Black can go solid [rubinstein, classical] or go hell for leather [ Macutcheon, Winawer] . Also, unlike the Sicillian where there are wing gambits, smith morra etc, there isn't that much "wild and weird" that white can try against the French. I suppose there is a Wade sideline gambit, and the Milner Barry attack, and the Chatard attack, but all are easily dealt with and/or avoided at black's leaisure. So froma practical point of view it takes a lot less work to preapre the French for crossboard play, IMO, than the Sicillian.

Basil
04-11-2006, 11:06 PM
Hate the French defence :)

Desmond
30-04-2007, 01:07 PM
Kevin - is there any first move by White that you would not meet with 1...e6.?

Garrett
30-04-2007, 01:14 PM
What if white played a reverse French ?

You could both be blocking your own bsihops and counter-attacking thin air (with f6) !!

Kevin Bonham
30-04-2007, 01:24 PM
Kevin - is there any first move by White that you would not meet with 1...e6.?

Quite a few actually:

1.c4 I have played ...e6 against fairly often but am not happy with some lines and thinking of playing other stuff more (see current freestyle games for one example.)

Not that keen on it against 1.f4 or 1.Nf3 either.

Desmond
30-04-2007, 01:34 PM
What if white played a reverse French ?

You could both be blocking your own bsihops and counter-attacking thin air (with f6) !!What?? No ...Nc6xe5 tricks?? There goes my whole game plan! :P

Desmond
30-04-2007, 01:40 PM
Quite a few actually:

1.c4 I have played ...e6 against fairly often but am not happy with some lines and thinking of playing other stuff more (see current freestyle games for one example.)That is interesting. When I play 1...e6 against the English it almost invariably transposes into a QGD position, which I am quite happy with. I suppose if you prefer the Nimzo- Bogo- or Queen's Indian, transposition might not come so readily.

Kevin Bonham
30-04-2007, 01:55 PM
Actually it's the 2.Nc3 and 3.e4 line that's giving me the bother, not the QGD/Semi-Slav transpositions which I'm always happy to go into.

Basil
30-04-2007, 04:09 PM
Kevin - is there any first move by White that you would not meet with 1...e6.?
1. Bf6 (a fantasy variation of the Tromp) would slow up most Frenchies!

Capablanca-Fan
01-05-2007, 08:08 AM
(213) ALB36 (1586) - Zwichenzug (1578) [b]C02]
Rated game, 15m + 1s Café, 26.10.2006
1.e4 d5 2.e5 e6 3.d4 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qb6 6.Be2 Be7

Automatic development is not the best. The key point is d4, so 6...cxd4 then ... Nh6-f5. In some lines, this bishop goes to b4, so it is too early to commit it.


7.0–0 Nh6 8.b3 Bd7 9.Bg5 f6 10.Bxh6 gxh6 11.a4 0–0–0 12.Bb5 Rhg8 13.Bxc6 Bxc6 14.Nbd2 fxe5 15.Nxe5 c4 16.b4 Qc7 17.b5 Be8 18.Qb1 b6 19.Ndf3 Bg6 20.Qa2 Rdf8 21.Nc6 Rxf3 22.Nxe7+ Qxe7 23.gxf3 Bb1+

Good enough, but 23. ... Be4+ mates next move.

Zugzwanged
07-05-2007, 05:34 AM
[QUOTE=Zwischenzug]Hi. These two games I just played online (around 30 min per game). The moves might not be very deep and probably full of mistakes but I did enjoy these games. I normally play the Scandinavian with black but sometimes it transposes to the French Defense.

Game 1:

(213) ALB36 (1586) - Zwichenzug (1578) [b]C02]
Rated game, 15m + 1s Café, 26.10.2006
1.e4 d5 2.e5 e6 3.d4 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qb6 6.Be2 Be7 7.0–0 Nh6 8.b3 Bd7 9.Bg5 f6 10.Bxh6 gxh6
11.a4 0–0–0 12.Bb5 Rhg8 13.Bxc6 Bxc6 14.Nbd2 fxe5 15.Nxe5 c4 16.b4 Qc7 17.b5 Be8 18.Qb1 b6
19.Ndf3 Bg6 20.Qa2 Rdf8 21.Nc6 Rxf3 22.Nxe7+ Qxe7 23.gxf3 Bb1+ 24.Kh1 Bxa2 25.Rxa2 Qg5 0–1

6....Be7? is weak. Much stronger is 6.....cxd4 7.cxd4 Nh6 with at least an equal game. (8.Bxh6? Qxb2!) and black is better. 6.....Bd7 is a playable waiting move as well.

Desmond
02-03-2008, 05:14 PM
My club game this week (I was Black of course!) saw a bit of a different twist to the Milner-Barry gambit.

11.Re1 deviated from the more normal 11.Qe2, which to me seemed a bit of a weak decision since the rook wants to stay on the f-file to support the eventual advance of the f-pawn.

Also 12.a3 is interesting since it pretty much prevents the plan of Nf8-e7-c6-b4 harrasing the strong bishop on d3.

I would be interested to hear any suggestions for how Black should proceed, and I'll post my (mis)handling of the position a bit later on.


1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5 4. c3 Nc6 5. Nf3 Bd7 6. Bd3 cxd4 7. cxd4 Qb6 8. O-O Nxd4 9. Nxd4 Qxd4 10. Nc3 a6 11. Re1 Qb6 12. a3

Basil
02-03-2008, 05:28 PM
Ne7-g6. Dark Square bishop out, castling. Let's go!

Garrett
02-03-2008, 06:03 PM
Hate the French defence :)

BULL - YOU PLAYED IT LAST THURSDAY NIGHT !!!

I HAVE A SHOUTBOX SCREENSHOT TO PROVE IT !!!

YOU ARE DEFILED NOW !!

Garrett
02-03-2008, 06:04 PM
My club game this week (I was Black of course!) saw a bit of a different twist to the Milner-Barry gambit.

11.Re1 deviated from the more normal 11.Qe2, which to me seemed a bit of a weak decision since the rook wants to stay on the f-file to support the eventual advance of the f-pawn.

Also 12.a3 is interesting since it pretty much prevents the plan of Nf8-e7-c6-b4 harrasing the strong bishop on d3.

I would be interested to hear any suggestions for how Black should proceed, and I'll post my (mis)handling of the position a bit later on.


1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5 4. c3 Nc6 5. Nf3 Bd7 6. Bd3 cxd4 7. cxd4 Qb6 8. O-O Nxd4 9. Nxd4 Qxd4 10. Nc3 a6 11. Re1 Qb6 12. a3

just hang in there Boris.

White has to prove something here.

Axiom
02-03-2008, 06:06 PM
BULL - YOU PLAYED IT LAST THURSDAY NIGHT !!!

I HAVE A SHOUTBOX SCREENSHOT TO PROVE IT !!!

YOU ARE DEFILED NOW !!
maybe thats why he hates it

but yeah he has been defiled for a long time now anyway
and thats putting it politely :whistle:

Basil
02-03-2008, 06:14 PM
Garrett, that is extremely *******-esque!

I declared my hatred for the French many many months ago.
I played the French for the first time last week!

Problem #1
You make the conversation sound like a continuous one.

Problem #2
I hate being on the receiving end of the French defence.

Garrett
02-03-2008, 07:04 PM
whatever - he's your nemises not mine.

Best way to avoid the French was worked out in my underground secret laboratory loooooong ago.

Pay attention now.

1.d4
2.c4.

Basil
02-03-2008, 07:20 PM
whatever - he's your nemises not mine.
Don't you 'whateva' me! Only oversize black women on Springer do that!

He isn't my anything (except for perhaps a stain that I once ejected from the CAQ). And after all that, your comment was still *******-esque, which is your problem, not mine ;)

Kevin Bonham
02-03-2008, 07:25 PM
Ne7-g6. Dark Square bishop out, castling. Let's go!

What about DSB out with tempo ...Bc5 and then worry about where to put the knight after? This also means white is going to struggle to get Be3 chasing the queen away in, so the queen may be able to stay on b6. If chased by b4, the bishop can go to d4 where it would appear to be fine.

Actually g6 is quite often a bad square for the knight in French positions, though it can be justified if you get enough attack on the e5 pawn. In other cases a knight on g6 can often become very passive.

Garrett
02-03-2008, 07:25 PM
ok got it - my mistake.

You hate the French but you'll do it doggy style when you think no-one's looking.

nothing like dark-meat huh.

Basil
02-03-2008, 07:49 PM
Are you on the turps again, George? I deliberately didn't quote your text in case you elect to clean up your house 'at a later time'.

Garrett
02-03-2008, 07:54 PM
Are you on the turps again, George? I deliberately didn't quote your text in case you elect to clean up your house 'at a later time'.

ok thanks.

Desmond
02-03-2008, 09:39 PM
What about DSB out with tempo ...Bc5 and then worry about where to put the knight after? This also means white is going to struggle to get Be3 chasing the queen away in, so the queen may be able to stay on b6. If chased by b4, the bishop can go to d4 where it would appear to be fine.Yes that would have been a good idea. I didn't consider the idea of Bd4, and later on I saw but rejected the idea of moving the queen to the same square (move 14).


Actually g6 is quite often a bad square for the knight in French positions, though it can be justified if you get enough attack on the e5 pawn. In other cases a knight on g6 can often become very passive.Yes as it was in the game my Ng6 became a somewhat passive piece, but at least it was blocking a critical line.

Here's the game:


1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5 4. c3 Nc6 5. Nf3 Bd7 6. Bd3 cxd4 7. cxd4 Qb6 8. O-O Nxd4 9. Nxd4 Qxd4 10. Nc3 a6 11. Re1 Qb6 12. a3 Ne7 13. b4 Rc8 14. Bd2 Ng6 15.Na4 Qd8 16. Nc3 Be7 17. b5 axb5 18. Nxb5 O-O 19. Qh5 Bc5 20. Nd6 Rb8 21. Rec1 b6 22. Bg5 Qc7 23. Be7 Qa7 24. Bxf8 Rxf8 25. Nb5 Qa4 26. Rcb1 Qf4 27. Ra2 Bxb5 28. Bxb5 Qxe5 29. Qxe5 Nxe5 30. Re2 Ng4 31. h3 Nf6 32. Kf1 Bxa3 33. Rb3 Bc5 34.f4 Ne4 35. Ra2 g6 36. Ke2 h5 37. g4 h4 38. Bd3 Nf2 39. f5 Nxh3 40. f6 Nf2 41.
Kf3 Nxd3 42. Rxd3 g5 43. Kg2 Kh7 44. Ra7 Kg6 45. Rf3 Rb8 46. Rc7 Bd4 47. Ra3 b5 48. Kf3 b4 49. Rb3 Bxf6 50. Ke2 Be5 51. Kd3 Bxc7 0-1

Kevin Bonham
02-03-2008, 09:56 PM
Looks like you made fairly heavy weather of it (eg 17...d4 wins the b-pawn and stops that knight becoming such a nuisance) but at least you kept safe and were never losing. I often find that conservative play against MBG addicts pays off. There's cases where you can, objectively soundly, go after the second pawn if you're accurate enough, but why take the risk?

In the ending, why doesn't white save his a-pawn? Even if he does his position still looks very difficult.

Desmond
02-03-2008, 10:22 PM
I was tempted to win that b-pawn as you say, but I thought discretion being the greater part of valour at that point. I figure if it gets to an ending the extra protected passed pawn is going to win it anyway so why take the extra risk. I wasn't too worried about the knight going to d6 anyway, since I had dreams of one day picking up the e5-pawn, although in retrospect they may have been a little optimistic.

The a-pawn was a blunder, but yeah I was fancying my chances by that stage.

Davidflude
02-03-2008, 10:58 PM
Kevin Bonham
Macavity
Viktor Korchnoi
Wolfgang Uhlman
Qpawn [ well, ok, it is poetic licence to put me in any group that is "great".]

:lol:

What I like a lot about the French defence is that it is the only defence, apart from the Sicillian, where black has an enormous say in the style of game played. Black can go solid [rubinstein, classical] or go hell for leather [ Macutcheon, Winawer] . Also, unlike the Sicillian where there are wing gambits, smith morra etc, there isn't that much "wild and weird" that white can try against the French. I suppose there is a Wade sideline gambit, and the Milner Barry attack, and the Chatard attack, but all are easily dealt with and/or avoided at black's leaisure. So froma practical point of view it takes a lot less work to preapre the French for crossboard play, IMO, than the Sicillian.

No way Hose

First there is the sneaky

1 e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5 4. c3 Nc6 5. Nf3 Qb6 6.a3 Black can play 6..c4
with a mess or

6....a5 when white plays Bd3 with a position that is better then the Milner Barry Gambit

I will keep more stuff secret just point out that ther is a book "Secret weapons - the French" with all manner of stuff

Davidflude
02-03-2008, 11:14 PM
Kevin Bonham

What I like a lot about the French defence is that it is the only defence, apart from the Sicillian, where black has an enormous say in the style of game played. Black can go solid [rubinstein, classical] or go hell for leather [ Macutcheon, Winawer] . Also, unlike the Sicillian where there are wing gambits, smith morra etc, there isn't that much "wild and weird" that white can try against the French. I suppose there is a Wade sideline gambit, and the Milner Barry attack, and the Chatard attack, but all are easily dealt with and/or avoided at black's leaisure. So froma practical point of view it takes a lot less work to preapre the French for crossboard play, IMO, than the Sicillian.

The Milner Barry is now played out and considered dubious but you need to know the theory.

On the other hand the alapin-Diemer is dubious if black accepts it but great for white if white declines it.

The Chatard still has a lot of sting although black can play d5xe4 to preempt it.

The Winckelmann-Reimer is virtually a forced win if black accepts it but black can get a geat position by declining it.

The Mccutcheon again has an intriguing gambit line but I think that black is O.K.

Even the Guimard is coming back into fashion

Do not kid yourself. You need to know a lot of theory to play the French, not as much as the Sicilian. Although as one french expert once wrote - when you play it wrong you get a dreadfull position and cannot resign because you are not even a pawn down.

Despite all that it is a good defence.

hint for white. play the King's Indian attack against microboppers.

Also 1.d4 e6 2.f4 tends to throw French players.

Axiom
02-03-2008, 11:27 PM
not to mention the dreaded Possum Attack !

Basil
02-03-2008, 11:38 PM
not to mention the dreaded Possum Attack !
Dreaded by white (attacking himself).

Axiom
02-03-2008, 11:54 PM
Dreaded by white (attacking himself).
are you on the turps again ? :lol:

Kevin Bonham
03-03-2008, 12:05 AM
The Milner Barry is now played out and considered dubious but you need to know the theory.

Yes, which is harder for ordinary mortals OTB than in correspondence, so it remains some degree of nuisance at club level. But as I've mentioned, conservative play against club-level MGB addicts often pays dividends; they tend not to know what to do.


The Winckelmann-Reimer is virtually a forced win if black accepts it but black can get a geat position by declining it.

I accepted the W-R in a rapid game once and was thrashed in 20 moves by a player only slightly above my rating. Real rabbit-in-the-headlights stuff. I would certainly not be accepting it again!


Even the Guimard is coming back into fashion

I really have not much idea why (apart from it not being all that awful and having some surprise value) since Black is fine in the main Tarrasch lines. Actually with white I am quite happy to see the Guimard though I have not researched it all that much.


Although as one french expert once wrote - when you play it wrong you get a dreadfull position and cannot resign because you are not even a pawn down.

I have unravelled and won from a lot of those dreadful positions. Though I did resign one of them against Garvin in a freestyle game!


Also 1.d4 e6 2.f4 tends to throw French players.

Not this one. It might be interesting for correspondence play but OTB the opening up of the white kingside gives Black chances to play for a quick smash without having to take any tactical risk in the process; I have won rated games in 15 and under moves against this setup.

Trent Parker
03-03-2008, 12:57 PM
Kevin Bonham
Macavity
Viktor Korchnoi
Wolfgang Uhlman
Qpawn [ well, ok, it is poetic licence to put me in any group that is "great".]

:lol:

What I like a lot about the French defence is that it is the only defence, apart from the Sicillian, where black has an enormous say in the style of game played. Black can go solid [rubinstein, classical] or go hell for leather [ Macutcheon, Winawer] . Also, unlike the Sicillian where there are wing gambits, smith morra etc, there isn't that much "wild and weird" that white can try against the French. I suppose there is a Wade sideline gambit, and the Milner Barry attack, and the Chatard attack, but all are easily dealt with and/or avoided at black's leaisure. So froma practical point of view it takes a lot less work to preapre the French for crossboard play, IMO, than the Sicillian.

I've been playing the french as my main weapon recently! The only other opening i've played in recent games against 1.e4 has been 1 game of the scandinavian (because I played the french against opponent in Aus Minor and decided to surprise him in in ADW). And a game of the Nimzovitch defence (where I accidently picked up my Queens Knight after getting to venue late... I wn the game though.... :D)

Trent Parker
03-03-2008, 01:04 PM
What is the best way to play against the wing gambit in the french..... It seems to be a local club favorite. I've had some good play as black with both accepting the first pawn and declining the pawn....

French wing gambit for those who dont know.... 1.e4 e6 2.Nf3 d5 3.e5 c5 4.b4

Desmond
03-03-2008, 06:44 PM
What is the best way to play against the wing gambit in the french..... It seems to be a local club favorite. I've had some good play as black with both accepting the first pawn and declining the pawn....

French wing gambit for those who dont know.... 1.e4 e6 2.Nf3 d5 3.e5 c5 4.b4Take the pawn, go for the ending. :)

Kevin Bonham
03-03-2008, 09:56 PM
I've actually never bothered to study it much since nobody plays it against me!

Davidflude
04-03-2008, 09:43 AM
I've actually never bothered to study it much since nobody plays it against me!

Be warned it is recommended in "The Gambiteer" so expect to have it played on you. Why not spend a little time looking at it. Better than getting blown out of the water by some patzer playing a dubious opening line.

Basil
04-03-2008, 11:05 AM
May we have a 'C' in defence in thread title please.

Garrett
04-03-2008, 11:50 AM
wouldn't it be better if it were a little 'c' ?

just stirring !

bgriffenchop
04-03-2008, 04:21 PM
Just do exchange french - straight to middle-to-endgame then just simply outplay them. :) works for me.

Desmond
04-03-2008, 05:04 PM
Ziegler contrasts the Wing Gambit in the French to the Benko. He reasons that the Benko is sound because Black, being a pawn down, can happily trade piece after piece and still not lose. Even sometimes win from a pawn down. The Wing Gambit though, the pawn will cost White the game if it gets that far along.

Desmond
04-03-2008, 05:05 PM
Just do exchange french - straight to middle-to-endgame then just simply outplay them. :) works for me.
In my experience, people who play the Exchange variation with White are out of book by about move 5, whereas the French player should know it much better.

Kevin Bonham
04-03-2008, 06:49 PM
In my experience, people who play the Exchange variation with White are out of book by about move 5, whereas the French player should know it much better.

Yes, and if the Black player is stronger they will probably outplay white anyway. The lines where everything is exchanged down the e-file often lead to knight endings which can be tricky to play even if objectively very much drawn.

Plus there's Watson's debunking of the idea that those heavy piece exchanges will necessarily occur, which I quoted here (http://chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=125402&postcount=23).

I think the Exchange can be a dangerous surprise weapon for a lower rated player who likes attacking, because it often leads to open positions, and there are good chances to castle opposite sides. And perhaps it is a good play-safe strategy for a higher rated player against a junior whose endgame they think might be suss. Apart from that I really cannot recommend it at all.

Capablanca-Fan
04-03-2008, 07:03 PM
Plus there's Watson's debunking of the idea that those heavy piece exchanges will necessarily occur, which I quoted here (http://chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=125402&postcount=23).
There is another unbalancing idea you probably won't like: ... c5 at the right time.

Kevin Bonham
04-03-2008, 07:21 PM
There is another unbalancing idea you probably won't like: ... c5 at the right time.

Yes. Not keen on it personally but it's certainly there for those who want it.

Trent Parker
20-11-2011, 04:47 AM
Ok I just played this game on FICS at 5 20 time control.......

A pretty mate in a not so mainline french advance miniature.

aquadawg v trentthechessnut:

1.e4 e6 2.Nf3 d5 3.e5 c5 4.Nc3 Nc6 5.d3 Bd7 6.Bf4 Nge7 7.h3 Ng6 8.Bh2 Qb6 9.Na4 Qa5+ 10.Nc3 d4 11.b4 Nxb4 12.Ne4 Nxd3+ 13.Ke2 Ndf4+ 14.Bxf4 Nxf4+

Zwischenzug
20-11-2011, 04:50 PM
Love the french defense but getting sick and tired of playing the exchange french. Its so common for me to get that variation against 1500 level players on FICS.

Desmond
25-11-2011, 09:28 PM
Love the french defense but getting sick and tired of playing the exchange french. Its so common for me to get that variation against 1500 level players on FICS.Yes, almost always either exchange or advanced is what I get on FICS.

Kaitlin
29-11-2011, 03:32 PM
you play FICS ?

Zwischenzug
29-11-2011, 03:39 PM
you play FICS ?
You talking to me or Boris? I play on FICS occasionally under a different handle.

Desmond
29-11-2011, 07:20 PM
Yep, that's what you get (for playing the exchange).

1. e4 e6 2. Nf3 d5 3. exd5 exd5 4. d4 Bd6 5. c3 Bf5 6. Bd3 Qe7+ 7. Qe2 Bxd3
8. Qxe7+ Nxe7 {resigns} 0-1

Sir Cromulent Sparkles
29-11-2011, 09:00 PM
Yep, that's what you get (for playing the exchange).

1. e4 e6 2. Nf3 d5 3. exd5 exd5 4. d4 Bd6 5. c3 Bf5 6. Bd3 Qe7+ 7. Qe2 Bxd3
8. Qxe7+ Nxe7 {resigns} 0-1

where was that played ?

Max Illingworth
29-11-2011, 09:51 PM
Shirov-Morozevich, Saratov Cup 2011 is one recent and very nice game in the French Defence; the game ended in a draw but only due to Morozevich not converting a winning position into victory.

Desmond
24-07-2020, 11:12 AM
Amazing game from the Legends of Chess rapid 2020 between Anand-Kramnik. Characterised by beautiful french pawn chains b2-f6 / c4-f7, and corresponding thematic play on the forward flanks by both players.
Notes from https://lichess.org/broadcast/chess24-legends-of-chess-day-3/KL9z94bm

1.e4 [%clk 0:15:20] 1...e6 [%clk 0:15:20] 2.d4 [%clk 0:15:27] 2...d5 [%clk 0:15:29] 3.Nc3 [%clk 0:15:35] 3...Nf6 [%clk 0:15:37] 4.e5 [%clk 0:15:42] 4...Nfd7 [%clk 0:15:46] 5.f4 [%clk 0:15:50] 5...c5 [%clk 0:15:54] 6.Nf3 [%clk 0:15:58] 6...Nc6 [%clk 0:16:03] 7.Be3 [%clk 0:16:05] 7...Be7 [%clk 0:16:12] 8.Qd2 [%clk 0:16:12] 8...a6 [%clk 0:16:22] 9.Bd3?! Inaccuracy. dxc5 was best. [%clk 0:16:14]
(9.dxc5)
9...b5?! Inaccuracy. O-O was best. [%clk 0:16:26]
(9...O-O)
10.a3 [%clk 0:16:16] 10...c4 [%clk 0:16:12] 11.Be2 [%clk 0:16:22] 11...Nb6 [%clk 0:16:21] 12.O-O [%clk 0:16:12] 12...Bd7 [%clk 0:15:39] 13.Bd1 [%clk 0:15:15] 13...g6 [%clk 0:14:54] 14.h3 [%clk 0:12:15] 14...Qc7 [%clk 0:14:10] 15.Bf2 [%clk 0:12:10] 15...h6 [%clk 0:13:29] 16.Ne2 [%clk 0:11:39] 16...a5 [%clk 0:13:05] 17.c3 [%clk 0:11:37] 17...O-O-O [%clk 0:12:26] 18.Bh4 [%clk 0:11:24] 18...Bxh4 [%clk 0:12:26] 19.Nxh4 [%clk 0:11:30] 19...Kb7 [%clk 0:12:30] 20.Nf3 [%clk 0:11:23] 20...Ra8 [%clk 0:12:22] 21.Bc2 [%clk 0:11:19] 21...Qd8 [%clk 0:12:24] 22.g4 [%clk 0:10:54] 22...Qe7 [%clk 0:12:04] 23.Ng3?! Inaccuracy. Rab1 was best. [%clk 0:10:19]
(23.Rab1)
23...b4 [%clk 0:11:05] 24.axb4 [%clk 0:10:17] 24...axb4 [%clk 0:11:13] 25.Rxa8 [%clk 0:10:25] 25...Rxa8 [%clk 0:11:20] 26.f5 [%clk 0:10:32] 26...gxf5 [%clk 0:10:28] 27.gxf5 [%clk 0:10:37] 27...Ra2 [%clk 0:09:52] 28.Qc1 [%clk 0:09:13] 28...bxc3 [%clk 0:07:32] 29.bxc3 [%clk 0:09:18] 29...Qa3?! Inaccuracy. Na7 was best. [%clk 0:07:23]
(29...Na7 30.Bb1)
30.Bb1?! Inaccuracy. Qxa3 was best. [%clk 0:08:34]
(30.Qxa3)
30...Qxc1?! Inaccuracy. Rb2 was best. [%clk 0:07:08]
(30...Rb2)
31.Rxc1 [%clk 0:08:40] 31...Rb2?! Inaccuracy. Ra3 was best. [%clk 0:06:38]
(31...Ra3 32.Kf2)
32.f6 [%clk 0:07:26] 32...Na4 [%clk 0:06:38] 33.Bh7 [%clk 0:05:39] 33...Na5? Mistake. Be8 was best. [%clk 0:06:29]
(33...Be8 34.Kf1 Na7 35.Ne2 Nb5 36.Ke1 Ra2 37.Nd2 Nb2 38.Rb1 Na4)
34.Bg6 [%clk 0:04:32] 34...Nb3 [%clk 0:05:22] 35.Re1 [%clk 0:04:27] 35...Be8 [%clk 0:05:21] 36.Nf5 [%clk 0:04:33] 36...fxg6?? Blunder. Kc6 was best. [%clk 0:02:33]
(36...Kc6 37.Nd6 Kd7 38.Bxf7 Bxf7 39.Nxf7 Nxc3 40.Nd6 Nc1 41.f7 N3e2+ 42.Kg2 Nd3 43.Ra1)
37.Nd6+ [%clk 0:04:34] 37...Kc7 [%clk 0:02:42] 38.Nxe8+ [%clk 0:04:42] 38...Kd7 [%clk 0:02:50] 39.Nd6 [%clk 0:04:18] 39...g5 [%clk 0:02:23] 40.Nf5 [%clk 0:03:09] 40...Ke8 [%clk 0:01:25] 41.Nxh6 [%clk 0:03:14] 41...Nxc3 [%clk 0:01:26] 42.Nxg5 [%clk 0:01:30] 42...Nxd4 [%clk 0:01:33] 43.f7+ [%clk 0:00:25] 43...Ke7 [%clk 0:01:39] 44.Ra1 [%clk 0:00:33] 44...Nce2+ [%clk 0:00:47] 45.Kf2 [%clk 0:00:37] 45...Nf4+ [%clk 0:00:56] 46.Kg3?? Blunder. Kf1 was best. [%clk 0:00:31]
(46.Kf1 Nc6 47.Ng8+ Kf8 48.Nf6 Ke7 49.f8=Q+ Kxf8 50.Ra8+ Rb8 51.Nd7+ Ke7 52.Nxb8 Nxe5)
46...Ng6 [%clk 0:01:02] 47.Ra7+ [%clk 0:00:32] 47...Kd8 [%clk 0:01:08] 48.Ra8+?? Blunder. h4 was best. [%clk 0:00:35]
(48.h4 Ne2+ 49.Kf3 Kc8 50.Nxe6 Kb8 51.Re7 c3 52.Re8+ Kb7 53.Nc5+ Kc7 54.f8=Q Nxf8)
48...Kc7 [%clk 0:01:12] 49.Rg8 [%clk 0:00:39] 49...Ne2+ [%clk 0:00:58] 50.Kf2?! Inaccuracy. Kf3 was best. [%clk 0:00:41]
(50.Kf3 Nxe5+ 51.Ke3 Nxf7 52.Nhxf7 c3 53.Nxe6+ Kd7 54.Nd4 Nxd4 55.Kxd4 c2 56.Ne5+ Kc7)
50...Nef4+ [%clk 0:00:31] 51.Ke3 [%clk 0:00:48] 51...c3 [%clk 0:00:29] 52.Nxe6+?? Blunder. Rxg6 was best. [%clk 0:00:23]
(52.Rxg6 Nxg6 53.Nxe6+ Kd7 54.Nf4 d4+ 55.Ke4 c2 56.e6+ Kc7 57.Nd3 Kd6 58.f8=R Nxf8)
52...Nxe6 [%clk 0:00:37] 53.Rxg6 [%clk 0:00:31] 53...d4+ [%clk 0:00:35] 54.Ke4 [%clk 0:00:26] 54...Re2+?? Blunder. c2 was best. [%clk 0:00:27]
(54...c2)
55.Kf3 [%clk 0:00:17] 55...Re3+ [%clk 0:00:22] 56.Kg4 [%clk 0:00:21] 56...Nf8 [%clk 0:00:30] 57.Rg8 [%clk 0:00:28] 57...Nd7 [%clk 0:00:27] 58.Nf5 [%clk 0:00:16] 58...c2 [%clk 0:00:17] 59.Nxe3 [%clk 0:00:22] 59...c1=Q [%clk 0:00:14] 60.Nd5+ [%clk 0:00:29] 60...Kb7 [%clk 0:00:23] 61.e6 [%clk 0:00:36] 61...Qd1+ [%clk 0:00:15] 62.Kg5 [%clk 0:00:37] 62...Qd2+?? Blunder. Qg1+ was best. [%clk 0:00:22]
(62...Qg1+ 63.Kf5 Qb1+ 64.Kg5)
63.Kg6?? Blunder. Nf4 was best. [%clk 0:00:19]
(63.Nf4 Nc5 64.Rg6 Qb4 65.Kf5 Qb1+ 66.Kf6 Qb6 67.Kg7 Qc7 68.Kg8 Qxf4 69.f8=Q Nxe6)
63...Qg2+ [%clk 0:00:28] 0-1

Desmond
29-08-2020, 10:04 AM
Banter blitz with Giri playing the French Defence exclusively. Not my favourite banterer, but good to see his treatment of the usual rubbish sidelines white tries.

Game 1 - The Exchange, no one plays this.
10 games later, why everyone plays this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak1DA4lubRQ