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Carl Gorka
28-06-2006, 05:38 PM
Anyone seen the free ebook at chesscafe.com on Botvinnik's secret training matches?

http://www.chesscafe.com/skittles/skittles.htm

Igor_Goldenberg
29-06-2006, 10:35 AM
Thanks for the tip

Carl Gorka
29-06-2006, 10:51 AM
I had a brief look at it last night and it looks very interesting and, of course, Timman is an excellent annotator.

qpawn
29-06-2006, 02:33 PM
That is very interesting. And to think that these games were kept sceret for 40 years.

Jesse Jager
29-06-2006, 03:45 PM
whom was he playing in these secret matches?

Carl Gorka
29-06-2006, 04:06 PM
whom was he playing in these secret matches?

A number of players as warm up matches for big events. Ragozin, Kan, Furman and Smyslov to name some.

Jesse Jager
29-06-2006, 04:37 PM
how do we know they are genuine games if they were kept secret for so long?

qpawn
29-06-2006, 05:09 PM
Yes, Thatis a valid point. We also don't know if Botvinnik's "opponents" were psuedonyms for other people or, indeed, for Botvinnik playing against himself in analysis.

Jesse Jager
29-06-2006, 05:44 PM
surely these claims must be substantiated by documentation or observers of the
matches themselves.

MichaelBaron
29-06-2006, 10:18 PM
Anyone seen the free ebook at chesscafe.com on Botvinnik's secret training matches?

http://www.chesscafe.com/skittles/skittles.htm


These games are not really that "secret" I got a Russian Language addition of Botvinnik's Best Games. Some of the games from these matches can be found in that book with Botwinnik's own annotations.

Carl Gorka
30-06-2006, 12:33 AM
surely these claims must be substantiated by documentation or observers of the
matches themselves.

Go read the article:rolleyes:

Some of the games are authenticated by Averbakh, while others are from Botvinnik's own collection made public posthumously:)

Carl Gorka
30-06-2006, 12:35 AM
These games are not really that "secret" I got a Russian Language addition of Botvinnik's Best Games. Some of the games from these matches can be found in that book with Botwinnik's own annotations.

Perhaps not, but it still a nice ebook for free:)

The Kaminer games are new to me.