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Kevin Bonham
21-10-2005, 02:00 AM
Hobart Chess Club currently meets on Mondays at Guilford Young College, West Hobart. We meet in the library near the tennis courts, entrance off Patrick St from 6:30 on.

Accessing the venue

Our venue is the library at Guilford Young College. From Patrick St go down the drive beside the tennis courts and keep going until there is a glass wall right in front of you. At that point go through the doors on the right and take the lift to level 3. If the door is locked and there is no-one on the door there should be a sign out with a bell attached - ring the bell and someone will come down and let you in.
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The Hobart Chess Club was originally the Hobart International Chess Club.

The International Chess Club was first formed in 1994 among members of various, especially Serbian, Hobart ethnic communities. The club acquired the equipment of the original Hobart Chess Club shortly after forming, changing its name to Hobart International Chess Club at this time. In 2002 the club merged with the Sandy Bay Chess Club.

The club now has a junior and a senior club. The club meets on Mondays with the junior club meeting from 5:30-6:30 during school terms. The adult club meets from 6:30 pm and is open every week excepting most public holidays and 3-4 weeks over Xmas/New Year.

Some of our tournaments are one night quick tournaments and some run for several nights. Multi-week events are Swisses with postponed games allowed in the club championships, and half-point byes available for other events.


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List of Club Champions and Scores

1995 Kevin Bonham 17.5/20 (2RR)
1996 Alija Premilovac 6/7
1997 Pavel Sakov and Lazar Divkovic 7/8
1998 Kevin Bonham 7.5/10 (2RR)
1999 Kevin Bonham 8.5/10 (2RR)
2000 Kevin Bonham 13/14 (2RR)
2001 Kevin Bonham 5/6
2002 Kevin Bonham 14/14
2003 Kevin Bonham 14.5/15
2004 Tom Kacic 14/16
2005 Kevin Bonham 12/14
2006 Kevin Bonham 13.5/14
2007 Neil Markovitz 13/14
2008 Neil Markovitz 9/10
2009 Neil Markovitz, Julian Steward and Kevin Bonham 10/11
2010 Julian Steward 9/10 (2RR)
2011 Kevin Bonham 10/12 (2RR)
2012 Kevin Bonham and Neil Markovitz 7.5/10 (2RR)
2013 Joshua Loh 10/10
2014 David Rolph 6/8
2015 Kevin Bonham 8.5/10
2016 Kevin Bonham 8.5/9
2017 Kevin Bonham 9/9
2018 Jerome Pirotais 9/9
2019 Kevin Bonham 8.5/9
2020 (not held)
2021 Kevin Bonham 8.5/9

In 2011 a Faster Division of the Club Championship was added for players rated under 1500 ACF.

2011 Graham Richards and Milutin Ivkovic
2012 Davis Kim
2013 Davis Kim
2014 Milutin Ivkovic
2015 Milutin Ivkovic
2016 Joshua Perrin

Faster Division was not held from 2017.

List of Club Lightning Champions

2002 Tom Kacic, Lazar Divkovic and Kevin Bonham all 12/14
2003 Nigel Frame 9.5/11
2004 Kevin Bonham 7.5/9*
2005 Nigel Frame and Kevin Bonham 14/15
2006 Kevin Bonham 9/10 (double round robin)
2007 Kevin Bonham 9.5/10
2008 David Small 11.5/12
2009 Neil Markovitz 12/13
2010 Neil Markovitz and Kevin Bonham 6/7
2011 Neil Markovitz and Kevin Bonham 8/9
2012 Kevin Bonham 6/7
2013 Neil Markovitz and Peter Knight 6/7
2014: Kevin Bonham 5.5/7
2015: Kevin Bonham 7/7
2016: David Small 9/9
2017: Kevin Bonham and Aidan Cox 8/9
2018: Aidan Cox 9/9
2019: Will Rumley 8/9
2020: Toby Straton 7/9
2021: Zacharias Lim 8/9

* Lim Yee Weng won tournament but did not join the club during the year.

Kevin Bonham
27-10-2005, 02:57 AM
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Results of the 2005 HICC Championship (recently completed):

12/14 Kevin Bonham 1942
10.5 Tom Kacic 1852
10 Nigel Frame 1851, Martin Line 1659
9.5 Peter Billam 1934
8.5 Charles Chadwick 1724, Milutin Ivkovic 1545
8 Michael Midson 1526
6.5 John O'Mara 1532
6 Scott Cohen 1343, Janice Martin 1503
3.5 Graham Richards 1412
3 John Kennedy 1332
2.5 Winand Frantzen 1263
0.5 Noel O'Mara 1287

DNFs 2/6 Cameron Harris 1599, 0/3 Paul Lovric UNR.

Several players commented that this was the toughest Tasmanian club tournament they had played in and that easy points were rather hard to come by. By around the halfway stage Bonham had conceded draws (both of which should have been losses) to Midson and Ivkovic, but the remaining top contenders had each dropped around three points either to each other or to the various inconsistent midfielders. (Ivkovic especially did all kinds of damage to the pointy end with draws with Bonham and Billam and wins over Kacic and Chadwick, but he also lost to J O'Mara and Martin.) A win by defending champion Kacic over Bonham in a rather sloppy game with a few rounds to go stopped the latter dominating the tournament but was too late to change anything but the minor places. State champ Nigel Frame had two losses (to Bonham in a 92-move epic (http://chesschat.org/showthread.php?t=2939) and to Line) but also had four draws.

Martin Line, who won the 1992 Sandy Bay Club Championship with a perfect score but has only been back in chess for a couple of years after several years off, appears to be getting back towards his former strength. He lost hundreds of ratings points after a poor result when he first returned but appears to be rapidly recouping them.

Currently a G60 tournament is in progress and Bonham with 6/6 currently leads but has not yet played any other top contenders. Frame won a very interesting From's Gambit game (http://chesschat.org/showthread.php?p=73313#post73313) against Billam but then had an upset loss to Cohen (who seems rather underrated), so Frame and Billam trail by one game.

Upcoming event: simul with FM Erik Teichmann Wednesday 26th Oct. Will post results here (his previous score a few years ago was +18=1-1).

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Upcoming event: simul with FM Erik Teichmann Wednesday 26th Oct. Will post results here (his previous score a few years ago was +18=1-1).

This time Teichmann, creatively fresh from a pleasant walk down the Overland Track, had little trouble racking up a 16-0 shutout against a field comprised of HICC members and juniors from the Kingston library chess club (thanks to Don Robertson for recruiting the latter).

Unfortunately numbers at the club have been badly down for no apparent reason over the last month or so and this didn't help the strength of the field for this simul.

One game has regrettably survived in which the hopes of the locals to register a solitary half point were cruelly snuffed out by a hideous piece of brainfade at the end of a long hard day.

{Teichmann [2370] - A. Goose [1942] (simul)} 1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.Ngf3 Nc6 5.g3 Nf6 6.Bg2 Bd6 7.0-0 Qc7 8.Re1 Bd7 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Ng5 Nf6 11.Nc4 h6 12.Ne4 Nxe4 13.dxe4 Be5 14.Bf4!? Bxf4 15.gxf4 0-0 16.Qd6 Qxd6 17.Nxd6 Nd4! 18.Rac1 Bc6 19.c3 Nb5 20.Red1 Nxd6 21.Rxd6 Rfd8 22.Rcd1 Rxd6 23.Rxd6 Kf8 24.e5 Bxg2 25.Kxg2 Ke7 26.Kf3 Rd8 27.Rxd8 Kxd8 28.Ke4 g6 29.Kd3 Kd7 30.Kc4 Kc6 31.a4 b6 32.b4 a6?? aaaaaaaaaargggggghhhhhh!!!!! I am tempted to do a Reuben Fine at this point and fill the rest of the line with question marks. 33.bxc5 bxc5 34.a5 g5 35.fxg5 hxg5 36.f3 1-0

Kevin Bonham
28-10-2005, 03:52 AM
A. Goose [1942]

Oh dear, my little joke has been immortalised in the newsletter. :lol:

Kevin Bonham
25-11-2005, 12:42 AM
On Dec 7 the club will be holding a special fun pre-Xmas novelty blitz tournament with a handicap of 1 pawn worth of material odds per 100 ratings points. Given that juniors are good at blitz and underrated anyway I expect any who show up to have a field day!

G60 tournament has been a bit insipid with a number of withdrawals or scratchings (some of these by players who were just short of the 50% mark to be classed as finishers). Bonham has 100% and leads by two points with not many games left to play but was a bit lucky to win a long game against Line after dropping a knight for two pawns and some compensation in the middlegame.

Kevin Bonham
07-12-2005, 11:05 PM
On Dec 7 the club will be holding a special fun pre-Xmas novelty blitz tournament with a handicap of 1 pawn worth of material odds per 100 ratings points. Given that juniors are good at blitz and underrated anyway I expect any who show up to have a field day!

We didn't get any rated juniors, just as well for the adults as James Briant is quite capable of beating top adult blitzers even if they start with their queens! We got four unrated juniors and put them in at est.800.

The following system of odds was used based on rating difference: 0-99 no odds 100-199 KBP 200-299 KBP+QBP 300-399 QN 400-499 QN+KBP 500-599 QR 600-699 QN+QB 700-799 QN+QB+KBP 800-899 QR+QN 900+ Queen.

10/12 Nigel Frame 1850 John O'Mara 1543 (Frame won playoff, played at same odds but colours reversed to in the tournament)
9.5 Kevin Bonham 1940
9 Graham Richards 1398
8 John Slidziunas 1704
7 Henry Sheerwater est.1500
6.5 Noel O'Mara 1217
5.5 Scott Cohen 1445
4.5 Tom Krasnicki est.1250
4 Alina Krasnicki est.800 (junior prize)
2 Callum Norris est.800
1 Sebastian Krasnicki est.800, Piyusha Banneheke est.800

Milutin Ivkovic withdrew after being ruled lost for king capture against Scott Cohen in round 1. It had been announced before play that king capture would lose, but Ivkovic's English isn't that good - an unfortunate situation.

There were a number of beginner's mistakes at odds play, eg one Black starting without his f-pawn found himself in immediate strife after 1.e4 e5?? 2.Qh5+ +-.

Generally the juniors only took points off each other but Callum Norris beat Graham Richards who gave rook odds, Alina Krasnicki, worthy winner of the junior prize, drew with her father Tom who gave piece and pawn odds (both flags fell) and also drew with Kevin Bonham who gave queen odds (which, as it turned out, prevented Bonham from making the playoff). In the playoff Frame beat John O'Mara on time.

Graham Richards was about as inconsistent with respect to opponents' ratings as he is without odds, compensating for losing to Norris by beating both Frame and Bonham who gave him piece and pawn odds and rook odds respectively. Frame's other loss was to Noel O'Mara and John O'Mara's other loss was to Bonham.

We might try this again sometime but will probably try to use a Swiss to cut the number of rounds as it was too much for some of the juniors.

First prize was a bottle of bubbly and junior prize was a small box of chocolates. I think both were donated by Graham Richards.

Kevin Bonham
22-12-2005, 01:50 AM
Bonham has won the G60 tournament with 9/9 after swindling Frame from a typically pathetic position. :rolleyes: A few games to be played early next year will determine second place on a score of 5.5 or 6.

Oepty
23-12-2005, 03:29 PM
Bonham has won the G60 tournament with 9/9 after swindling Frame from a typically pathetic position. :rolleyes: A few games to be played early next year will determine second place on a score of 5.5 or 6.

Kevin. Well done on the win.
Scott

Kevin Bonham
23-12-2005, 05:57 PM
Thanks Freddy and thanks also for your kind comment on the selections thread.

Here's the swindle. I am not giving the full game - not to hide my own dreadful play earlier but to protect Nigel's opening theory for the champs as he needs all the help he can get!

32.Qb6 Bxe5 33.Qe3? Bxf4 34.Bxe6+ Nxe6 35.Qxe6+ Qxe6 36.Nxe6 Bxh2+ 0-1

I was very surprised by the generous resignation although after 37.Kg2 Rxf1 38.Kxf1 Bd6 I would expect to win with relatively little trouble.

The correct response to 32...Bxe5 is 33.Nxe6 when I was intending yet another swindle attempt 33...Bd6, but then 34.c5! and White remains a pawn up.

Kevin Bonham
11-02-2006, 07:37 PM
Final results HICC One Hour

9/9 Kevin Bonham 1940
5.5 Scott Cohen 1445, Nigel Frame 1849
5 Martin Line 1715
4.5 John O'Mara 1543, Michael Saunders 1531
4 Tom Kacic 1836
3.5 Milutin Ivkovic 1561
2 John Kennedy 1301
1.5 Janice Martin 1495

Scratched: 2/3 Peter Billam, 0/5 Chris Edwards, 1/2 Suraj Dutt
Withdrawn: 0/2 Winand Frantzen, .5/4 Mike Midson

Nice result for Cohen including wins over Frame, O'Mara, Ivkovic. Kacic had three losses then didn't finish the event but had played enough to be classed as a finisher forfeiting the remainder.

Suppose I should be pleased with a picket fence and such a freakish victory margin but my main feeling over this event is disappointment that so many players entered the event but could not complete it.

1144
11-02-2006, 08:56 PM
Kevin, how many people do you have entered for the Tasmanian Championship held out the Burnie Chess Club.

P.S If you could PM me with the answer it would be great.

Thanking You

1144

Kevin Bonham
11-02-2006, 09:10 PM
Kevin, how many people do you have entered for the Tasmanian Championship held out the Burnie Chess Club.

P.S If you could PM me with the answer it would be great.

I tried that but got a message that your preferences aren't set to receive PMs. If you didn't set them that way it might be that the ban on using PMs before you've posted three messages also applies to receiving them.

Most entrants in Tassie tournaments leave it til the last ten days and in any case I'm not the organiser - the BCC is organising and receiving entries. In this case the entry forms haven't been issued yet as proposals relating to time controls are still being resolved, although this will be sorted out one way or the other within days.

I reckon there will be at least 30 entries and possibly as many as 40.

Kevin Bonham
01-03-2006, 09:30 PM
The club's annual Lightning Championship was held tonight and attracted a surprisingly small turnout. Results (double round-robin) 9/10 Kevin Bonham 8 Nigel Frame 7 Milutin Ivkovic 4 Michael Saunders 2 Mike Midson 0 John Kennedy.

The outcome was decided by the mini-matches between the first three players, all of whom have won the state blitz title (in Frame's case several times) and scored 2-0s against all the others in this event. Bonham scored 1.5/2 vs Frame and Frame the same against Ivkovic. Bonham then won the first game of the mini-match with Ivkovic after the latter delivered checkmate without first removing his king from discovered check, an extreme Swindle even by the standards of yours truly since not only was I two pieces down but the mate was unstoppable. The second game of the minimatch was drawn.

Starting next week the club is opening a Junior Branch! The junior group will play from 6-7pm at the same venue and will probably be geared towards experienced rather than beginning juniors initially.

Attempts to move the club in view of space limitations at its existing venue have been quite thoroughly explored without success. :(

Spiny Norman
02-03-2006, 07:58 AM
Starting next week the club is opening a Junior Branch! The junior group will play from 6-7pm at the same venue ...
Good stuff guys ... that's the ticket! :clap:

Kevin Bonham
15-03-2006, 11:04 PM
Very good news for the club. We have been able to obtain the large Acacia Room at the centre virtually every night this year by switching our meeting night to Monday, starting this coming Monday.

We now have a junior club which meets on Mondays from 5-7pm and a main club which meets on Mondays from 7:30pm-whenever. It is likely the club will now flourish as word of the consistent availability of the big room spreads and as juniors gradually become strong enough to cross over.

The club champs has 17 entries so far with a few more expected before entries are cut off in a few weeks. Presently Nigel Frame and Janice Martin (3/3) and Kevin Bonham and Michael Saunders (2/2) are the only players still with 100% scores, Martin defeating three higher rated opponents! Other notable events have included Noel O'Mara (1217) scoring an upset win over Martin Line (1696) - though Noel is actually much stronger than that rating when in form - and John Kennedy getting a nice 90th birthday present when John O'Mara resigned a drawn ending against him!

peter_knight
20-03-2006, 03:17 PM
Thats good news for me because i have Mondays off
I should be able to come next week

qpawn
20-03-2006, 04:56 PM
If I were there in Tasmania I would absloutely smash anyone on thses forums with those odds; there is no way I am approx 1300. so I should get about 4 pawns to a queen against certain people. That is ludicrous. I should have no more odds than a pawn against anybody.

But I wouldn't turn up to do so. I would feel patronized and insulted by the exercise. It just seems to say to the lower ranked player: you are such a poor, incompetent little bastard that you need all these pawns. :(

Kevin, that's how such an event would feel for me if Elwood put it on here in Vic. I just think that odds events enter very dangerous territory in respect to a player's ego, pride and feelings.

Kevin Bonham
20-03-2006, 05:23 PM
If I were there in Tasmania I would absloutely smash anyone on thses forums with those odds; there is no way I am approx 1300. so I should get about 4 pawns to a queen against certain people. That is ludicrous. I should have no more odds than a pawn against anybody.

If we ever meet I shall be more than happy to play you some blitz games at pawn odds so we can test that theory.


But I wouldn't turn up to do so. I would feel patronized and insulted by the exercise. It just seems to say to the lower ranked player: you are such a poor, incompetent little bastard that you need all these pawns. :(

Kevin, that's how such an event would feel for me if Elwood put it on here in Vic. I just think that odds events enter very dangerous territory in respect to a player's ego, pride and feelings.

It was a novelty blitz event intended for fun purposes only and we made it quite clear that the odds of a pawn per hundred points were not meant to be an accurate indication of playing ability. Indeed we thought the odds would favour the weaker players and be too difficult for the strong players, yet the strong players generally did well.

We have also tried time handicaps in the past. Even when you think you have handicapped the strong player out of it the strong players still win.

qpawn
20-03-2006, 07:39 PM
I would prefer the handicap to be one of time. Even though that gives me, as the weaker player, less chance of winning according to you.

Look. I am no odds player of any experience. But there is one golden rule to the person receiving the odds of some booty. That is: give some of the booty back at some point to clarify the position. If the person with the booty tries to hang onto the lot of it then the stronger player, more often than not, wins out.

And yes, Kevin, if we ever met in Tasmania I would accept your challenge!!

But I would perefr to play you on even terms even though you would probably beat me then. At least then I could learn something. I remember Capabalnca oncesaying that to be a good player one has to lose 1000s of games. Of course he never had to suffer such indignities the little mongrel :evil:

Rincewind
20-03-2006, 10:52 PM
At our clube we have a handicap tournament where each game is worth 60 points and the point destribution is determined bythe result and the rating difference of the two players. For example if two equally rated players draw, they get 30 points each. If one wins she gets 45 points and her opponent receives 15 points. In the case of highly disparate ratings (>460 rating points) if the higher rated player wins he get 31 points and the lower rated player gets 29.

I don't mind this format. For a full table of the point allocation see...

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~mazzieri/chess/WgongHandicap.htm

The issues with the tournament are:

- it is technicaly possible for a high rated player to win all their games and not win the tournament although in 6 years this has not happened in our club

- forfeits need special cnosideration. We allocate the points that would normally have been given for a win up to a maximum of 45. The forfeiter receives 0 points.

- I believe that we have too many rounds scheduled for this event. We generally get 14-18 players and it is run as a 9 round swiss. I believe this is not ideal and we should only run it as a 7 round event. However, the tournament organiser is unconvinced by my arguments.

Anyway it is an interesting format which people might like to try. As they are not odds games they are played under full time controls and ratable.

Kevin Bonham
20-03-2006, 11:22 PM
I have to say that I personally have a distaste for material odds games in general, habitually refuse to play them when asked to socially, and think they are best confined to fun muckabout tournaments of the sort referred to. Quite simply they are not real chess, and yes, you learn more from the real thing. However I'm happy playing time odds casually and like to give people the challenge of trying to beat me with (as much time as they like) vs my 2 or 3 or 5 minutes depending on how good they are.

PHAT
20-03-2006, 11:28 PM
Anyway it is an interesting format which people might like to try. As they are not odds games they are played under full time controls and ratable.

One other thing. The low rated players can win the tournament with 3/9. It seems that the lower a player's rating, the harder they play in these games. They become truly dangerous, with a ferocious intent. This becomes balanced against a morbid fear that the high rated players have when only one or two losses can see them finish ignominously at the bottom of the table.

(I will have to analyse past year's results, for a trend.)

Kevin Bonham
27-03-2006, 10:10 PM
Other notable events have included Noel O'Mara (1217) scoring an upset win over Martin Line (1696)

No they haven't - that was an incorrectly recorded result. :oops:

Line beat Frame tonight (Line was a pawn down but had a pawn lodged on the 7th rank that I assume was more than worth it) and the current leaders are Michael Saunders and Kevin Bonham 4/4, Nigel Frame 4/5, Martin Line 2/2.

Junior club tournament (rapid G20) has 12 entries.

Kevin Bonham
11-04-2006, 01:11 AM
Saunders - Frame was drawn tonight so Bonham 5/5 leads Saunders 5.5/6 Frame 5.5/7 Martin 5/7 and Line 2/3.

Frame missed a few wins and ultimately blundered a bishop while trying to win a drawn ending. Although Saunders had a clearly won game at this point, with little more than a minute on his clock and queens still on the board he was unable to win and Frame was able to force a perpetual check.

In the junior event Max Rintoul 3/3 leads Jamie Briant, Harry Briant and Owen Short all 3/4. Max recently had some good wins for the state in the inaugural internet junior teams event.

Kevin Bonham
10-05-2006, 11:53 AM
Now looking very much like a race in two with Bonham 7/7 Saunders 5.5/6. Saunders has actually won two more games since my last post but two of his defeated opponents have been scratched for nonattendance so his score has stayed the same. The field is now 15 and hopefully all or nearly all will finish.

Frame (+5=1-2) is probably out of contention after losing to Ivkovic last night. (Ivkovic responded incorrectly to an unsound desperado knight sac from Frame but a later error by Frame left Ivkovic to mop up with a queen and knight and pawns against two rooks and pawns. Queen and knight can be very effective in such positions.)

Nobody else has a net score balance better than +1.

Kevin Bonham
05-06-2006, 11:10 PM
The attrition rate at the top is high. Bonham now leads with 9/9 from Henry Sheerwater (UNR) 5.5/7, Saunders 7.5/10, Line 5/8, Midson and Frame 5.5/9.

Couple of big upsets tonight with Graham Richards winning a piece off Line in the first ten moves, of all things, a French Exchange, while Midson beat Frame despite missing the sandshoe crusher in this position:

2k2q2/1pp4b/p4r1p/4N1p1/2QPp3/P3P2P/1P4P1/1K3R2 w - - 0 30

Frame (black) has just played Rd6-f6. Midson (white) played Rxf6, then swapped queens and won the ending because his knight proved superior to Frame's bishop. If only he had seen Qe6+!! winning a rook. :eek:

The junior club is going well and this weekend four of its players play their first rated games in the Tasmanian Open. Jamie Briant 7.5/9 leads the junior club event from Owen Short 6/8 with Megan Briant 4/6 and Harry Briant 5/8 also doing well.

Basil
05-06-2006, 11:13 PM
Qe6 - noice!

But can we talk about knights being better than bishops? - oh that's the Tromp thread, sorry :)

AlexDavies
06-06-2006, 03:13 PM
If I were there in Tasmania I would absloutely smash anyone on thses forums with those odds; there is no way I am approx 1300. so I should get about 4 pawns to a queen against certain people. That is ludicrous. I should have no more odds than a pawn against anybody.

At the time of the following odds game, which I won, my opponent Bob Currie had a Chess Federation of Canada rating of 1405. His rating rose to 1538 within 7 months of this game, so I don't think he was grossly over-rated. Admittedly, he crushed me 4-0 in the other four games of this Queen odds match. However, my active rating is only 1927, so 20% is more than would be expected from the 100 rating points per pawn adjustment that ICC once made. (Note that this game has a G/30 time control. When ICC allowed rated Queen odds games with the +900 rating point adjustment for the opponent of the odds giver, I was able to obtain the highest wild rating on the server by playing fast Queen odds games).

[Event "FICS unrated odds/queen game"]
[Site "FICS, San Jose, California USA"]
[Date "2000.06.11"]
[Time "16:00:19"]
[Round "-"]
[White "xanda"]
[Black "bowinkle"]
[WhiteElo "-"]
[BlackElo "-"]
[TimeControl "1800+0"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNB1KBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]
[Mode "ICS"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 e5 2. f4 Bc5 3. Nf3 d6 4. h3 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Bb5 a6 7. Bxc6+ bxc6
8. d3 Bb4 9. O-O Bxc3 10. bxc3 exf4 11. Bxf4 O-O 12. Bg5 h6 13. Bh4 Be6
14. Rf2 g5 15. Nxg5 hxg5 16. Bxg5 Kg7 17. Raf1 Qd7 18. Bxf6+ Kh7 19. Rf4
Kg6 20. R1f3 Rab8 21. Rg3+ Bg4 22. Rgxg4+ Qxg4 23. hxg4 Rb2 24. g5 Rbb8
25. Rh4 Rh8 26. Rxh8 Rxh8 27. Bxh8 Kxg5 28. e5 Kf5 29. exd6 cxd6 30. Kf2
Kf4 31. Bf6 Kf5 32. Be7 d5 33. Ke3 Ke5 34. g4 Ke6 35. Bf8 f6 36. Kd4 Kf7
37. Bd6
{Black resigns} 1-0

1. e4 e5 2. f4 Bc5 3. Nf3 d6 4. h3 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Bb5 a6 7. Bxc6+ bxc6 8. d3 Bb4 9. O-O Bxc3 10. bxc3 exf4 11. Bxf4 O-O 12. Bg5 h6 13. Bh4 Be6 14. Rf2 g5 15. Nxg5 hxg5 16. Bxg5 Kg7 17. Raf1 Qd7 18. Bxf6+ Kh7 19. Rf4 Kg6 20. R1f3 Rab8 21. Rg3+ Bg4 22. Rgxg4+ Qxg4 23. hxg4 Rb2 24. g5 Rbb8 25. Rh4 Rh8 26. Rxh8 Rxh8 27. Bxh8 Kxg5 28. e5 Kf5 29. exd6 cxd6 30. Kf2 Kf4 31. Bf6 Kf5 32. Be7 d5 33. Ke3 Ke5 34. g4 Ke6 35. Bf8 f6 36. Kd4 Kf7 37. Bd6

I also won a game after losing a queen and a pawn for a bishop in the 1988 Bendigo Club Championship (where I scored 10/11, ahead of multiple champion Leigh Healey, but behind Peter Frost).

Anyway, anyone below 2100 (at least) who doesn't realise that there are multiple blunders in most of their games should have a better look at them.

--
Alex Davies, Ottawa

P.S. Recently, I have been forced to consume Marmite instead of Vegemite, so I apologise for any strange effects this may be causing.

ElevatorEscapee
06-06-2006, 11:02 PM
At the Bendigo Club (G'day Alex!) we have a novelty 'piece handicap' lightning about once a year.

Players are given a ranking based on their current rating, and also from performances in previous 'piece handicap' events.

This means that if someone wins the tournaments being given pawn odds by the top seed, he will likely find himself having even odds against that player next year; and also giving greater odds to, or receiving lesser odds from players he had beaten the previous year.

We run a similar system with the once a year 'time handicap lightning' event.

Both of these are novelty events designed to break up the strenous rigours of tournaments with more fun play, (and these events also give the guys who have copped a hiding in the more serious games a more than even chance to get their own back!)

All I can say is that fun seems to be had by all who participate... and from my perspective, those who don't want to participate just miss out on a lot of fun. :)

PS: Alex, Marmite is ok, just don't try Promite! YUCK!!!! :sick:

PPS: This is my 666th post on the 6th day of the 6th Month of the year of our Lord 2006.
~EE 06/06/06

Basil
06-06-2006, 11:16 PM
Marmite - yum
Vegemite - yum
Promite - yum

Kevin Bonham
01-08-2006, 07:30 PM
Club Champs is almost over now with most players now turning their attention to the G60 event. Bonham 11.5/12 needs half a point from two games for a guaranteed outright first. Saunders 10.5/13 is overwhelmingly likely to win his last game (either by forfeit or OTB) and come second - an excellent result that should see his rating increase dramatically when results are processed in the end of year list. Line 11/14 has finished the event and has a guaranteed podium position.

MichaelBaron
02-08-2006, 03:57 PM
Club Champs is almost over now with most players now turning their attention to the G60 event. Bonham 11.5/12 needs half a point from two games for a guaranteed outright first. Saunders 10.5/13 is overwhelmingly likely to win his last game (either by forfeit or OTB) and come second - an excellent result that should see his rating increase dramatically when results are processed in the end of year list. Line 11/14 has finished the event and has a guaranteed podium position.

Very impressive result :clap:

Kevin Bonham
15-08-2006, 12:29 AM
Podium places are now settled after Bonham won this rather wild but also inaccurately played game in which the opponent could have won a pawn at one point and had a good position at another:

Bonham - Cohen

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 d6 4.d4 exd4 5.Nxd4 Nf6 6.Bb5 Bd7 7.0-0 Be7 8.Re1 0-0 9.f4 Nxd4 10.Qxd4 a6 11.Bd3 Bc6 12.Bd2 b6 13.Rad1? Kh8?! [13...d5! 14.b4 dxe4 15.Qxd8 Raxd8 16.Bxe4 Nxe4 17.Nxe4 Rd4 and black wins a pawn.] 14.Qf2? Too slow. [14.Nd5!+/=] 14...Re8 [14...d5 15.Kh1 (15.exd5? Bc5 16.Be3 Ng4 17.Qg3 Nxe3 18.Rxe3 Re8 19.Be4-/+) 15...d4 16.Nb1=] 15.Kh1 Qc8 16.e5?! dxe5 17.fxe5 Ng4 18.Qxf7 Bh4?! [18...Bc5! 19.h3 Rxe5 20.Rxe5 Nxe5=/+] 19.Bf5 [19.Re2! Rxe5 20.Rf1 Bf6=] 19...Qb7!? [19...Nf2+! 20.Kg1 Rf8! 21.Bxc8 Rxf7 22.e6! Re7 23.Bg5! Nxd1 24.Bxh4 Nxc3 25.Bd7 Rxd7 26.exd7 Bxd7 27.bxc3= but the saving ideas for white are hard to see OTB.] 20.Re2! Nothing else works. 20...Nf2+? [Black examined but didn't play 20...Bf3!! when best play is 21.Be4 Bxe4 22.Nxe4 Nxe5 23.Qh5 Ng6=] 21.Kg1 White is out of trouble now. 21...Bxg2? [21...Rf8 (best) 22.Qh5 Rxf5 23.Qxf5 Nxd1 24.Nxd1 Bb5 25.Qe4 Qxe4 26.Rxe4 and white is a clear pawn up;
21...Nxd1 22.Qh5 g6 23.Qxh4+-;
21...g6 22.Bh6 Rg8 23.Rxf2 gxf5 24.g3 Rg6+-] 22.Qh5 [I saw but inexplicably forgot to play 22.Bh6! which is terminal; instead I just won a piece] 22...Nh3+ 23.Bxh3 Bxh3 24.Qxh4 Qf3 25.Rf2 Qg4+ 26.Qxg4 Bxg4 and white soon won. 1-0

Martin Line got so absorbed watching this game that he blundered his queen in the G60 tournament but was able to get two pieces and escape with a draw on account of Noel O'Mara's time trouble. Another exciting G60 game was Saunders - J O'Mara - White collapsed in the ending in Black's time trouble and Black was able to get mate down with six seconds on his clock! (The stakes were high as White still had a pawn on the board).

Early days yet but current leaders in the G60 event (11 entrants so far) Ivkovic 3/3 Bonham 1.5/2 J O'Mara 3.5/5.

Kevin Bonham
28-08-2006, 11:45 PM
The HICC champs is over for another year. 15 players played enough games to be classed as finishers with 86 of the 105 games scheduled being played.

13.5/14 Kevin Bonham 1941
11.5 Michael Saunders 1576
11 Martin Line 1696
9 John Slidziunas 1636, Henry Sheerwater UNR
8 Janice Martin 1414, Nigel Frame 1783
7.5 Michael Midson 1597
6 Graham Richards 1380
5.5 Milutin Ivkovic 1563, Scott Cohen 1518
3.5 Noel O'Mara 1217
3 John Kennedy 1302
2 John O'Mara 1541, James Abbott UNR

Scratched: Leon Rice 0/1 Charles Chadwick 0/2 Suraj Dutt 0/1

(Frame, Kennedy and both O'Maras lost some points in unplayed games)

A superb result for Saunders who taking his loss to the unrated Sheerwater into account performed at about 1850 strength and will get a large ratings boost from this event.

The last game to finish was spectacular. Mike Midson allowed his opponent a lot of space and couldn't deal with the attack that followed from Scott Cohen's speculative double piece-sac. Although Cohen sometimes missed the strongest continuations it seems he was always objectively winning from about move 23 on. Scott was modest enough to admit that he simply forgot to take Black's queen, but as far as I can tell not taking it was the right thing to do!

Cohen - Midson

1.e4 d6 2.d4 e6 3.Nf3 a6 4.b3 h6 5.Bb2 Nc6 6.d5 Nce7 7.c4 e5 8.Be2 Nf6 9.Nbd2 b6 10.Qc2 Ng6 11.0-0 Nf4 12.Bd3 Be7 13.Bxe5!? dxe5 14.Nxe5 Bb7 15.Ndf3 Bd6 16.Nxf7!? Kxf7 17.e5 Ng4 18.exd6 cxd6 19.Bf5 Nf6 20.Rfe1 Bc8 21.Nd4 Re8 22.Nc6 Qc7 23.Rxe8 Nxe8 24.Re1 Kf6 25.Re7 Bxf5 26.Qc3+ Kg5 27.Qg3+ Bg4 28.h4+ Kh5 29.Qxf4 Qc8 30.Qf7+ Kxh4 31.Re4 Nf6 32.Rf4 Qf8 33.Qg6 h5 34.Kh2 1-0

Milutin Ivkovic continues to lead the G60 on 4/4 from Bonham 2.5/3 and Saunders 5/7.

Basil
28-08-2006, 11:58 PM
Yes, 11.5/ 14 is solid in anyone's language. Would someone please get on a boat and give Bonham a run for his money. This is getting tedious :)

Kevin Bonham
29-08-2006, 12:15 AM
Oi! I'm not done kicking myself for not winning in '04 yet!

(In that year Kacic and I were level near the end and I thought I had to win my last game to stay level with him. I found myself in a drawn position, had to take suicidal risks to unbalance it, and lost. But then a player who I had drawn with and Kacic had beaten failed to complete half his games, as I should have realised might happen, and was scratched. So the draw I moronically spurned would have actually been good for =1st :rolleyes: :wall: )

Kevin Bonham
25-09-2006, 11:43 PM
The current G60 tournament is going at an uneven pace with one player playing all the other nine entries to that point before a final player entered just prior to the closing of entries.

Bonham has a lead of sorts on 3.5/4 after easily beating Ivkovic who is now 4/5.

Bonham - Ivkovic (incidentally only the second time I've faced the Guimard variation in a tournament, and the first was nineteen years ago!)

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 Nc6 4.Ngf3 Nge7 5.e5 g6 6.c3 Bg7 7.Bd3 a6 8.Qc2 0-0 9.Nf1 Nf5 10.Ne3 Nh4 11.Qe2 Nf5? 12.Ng4 f6 13.exf6 Bxf6 14.Nxf6+ Qxf6 15.Bg5 Qg7 16.Ne5 Nxe5 17.dxe5 Ne7 18.Bf6 Rxf6 19.exf6 Qxf6 20.0-0 Bd7 21.Rae1 Rf8 22.Qe5 Qxe5 23.Rxe5 c5 24.Rfe1 c4 25.Bc2 Nc6 26.R5e2 d4? 27.cxd4 Nxd4 28.Rd2 Nxc2 29.Rxc2 b5 30.Rd2 Rf7 31.Rd6 a5 32.Red1 Be8 33.Rxe6 Kf8 34.Rd8 Re7 35.Rxe7 Kxe7 36.Ra8 a4 37.Kf1 h5 38.Ke1 Bc6 39.Ra6 Kd6 40.Kd2 Kc5 41.a3 g5 42.g3 h4 43.Kc3 Bf3? 44.Rg6 hxg3 45.Rxg5+ Bd5 46.fxg3 Kc6 47.Rxd5 Kxd5 48.h4 Ke5 49.h5 Kf5 50.Kb4 Kg5 51.g4 1-0

Kevin Bonham
09-10-2006, 09:33 PM
Saunders defeated Ivkovic in an amazing game which seesawed with complications on both kingsides until White finally decided to win a piece ... which cost him the game! Now Bonham 5.5/6 leads Saunders 6/8 Ivkovic 4/6 Midson 4/6 and John O'Mara 6.5/9.

Ivkovic (1511) - Saunders (1696)

1.e4 g6 2.Nf3 Bg7 3.c3 d6 4.d3 Nf6 5.Bg5 0-0 6.Be2 b6 7.0-0 Bb7 8.Qd2 Nbd7 9.h3 c5 10.Na3 a6 11.Rab1 Qc7 12.c4 e6 13.Bf4 Nh5 14.Bh2 f5 15.exf5 exf5 16.b3 Ne5 17.Ng5 Qc6 18.Bf3 Nxf3+ 19.Nxf3 Rae8 20.Rfe1 b5 21.Rxe8 Rxe8 22.Re1 Be5 23.Nc2 Bxh2+ 24.Kxh2 Rxe1 25.Qxe1 Nf4 26.Qe3 g5 27.Nce1 h6 28.g3? [28.h4! and now a combination attempt by 28...Nxg2? (28...Qd7 for instance 29.hxg5 hxg5 30.Nxg5 winning a pawn) would fail because of 29.Qe6+ Kg7 30.hxg5 hxg5 31.Qe7+ Kg6 32.Qxg5+] 28...Nxh3 [28...Ng6!? 29.Qe6+ Kg7 30.Qxf5 bxc4 31.dxc4 Ne5 with more than sufficient compensation for the pawn] 29.Qe6+ [It is best to take the knight to shut down Black's threats on the diagonal, eg 29.Kxh3 g4+ 30.Kh2 gxf3 31.Qxh6 Kf7 and White is safe with the better pawn structure] 29...Kg7 30.Qxf5? Here white should take the draw by perpetual. 30...Nxf2 31.Qe6 Nxd3 [31...Qc7 and black is a safe pawn up] 32.Qe7+ Kg8 33.Qe6+ Kf8! 34.Qf5+? It is incredible that Black's threats on the diagonal are so strong that after winning the knight with this move, White is lost!!! [34.Nxd3! draws again since after 34...Qxf3 35.Qxd6+ Kg7 36.Qe7+ Black cannot interpose the queen without White swapping queens and taking on c5. 34.Qxh6+ also appears to draw but is more complex.] 34...Kg7! 35.Qxd3 g4! 36.Qc3+ Kf7 37.Qh8 gxf3 38.Qh7+ Ke8 39.Qg8+ Kd7 40.Qf7+ Kc8 41.Kg1 Qe4! [After 24 moves parked on c6, the queen strikes a terminal blow. White could have played 41.Qe6+ before Kg1 which saves the piece but the ending after Qe4 and the queen swap is totally lost.] 42.Nxf3 an effective resignation but Black did have only ten minutes left 42...Qxf3 43.Qxf3 Bxf3 and Black won. 0-1

eclectic
07-12-2006, 01:07 PM
I was in Tasmania last week based in Hobart. I had thought of having a look at the goings on at HICC but I'd been out on a cruise that Monday afternoon and a lack of sleep the night before left me in no mood to play even casual games.

Anyway I think the club was having serious 1 hour per side games that night.

I took a little mobile phone pic of the sign marking the HICC venue last Friday just before I left for home as it is around the corner from the backpacker and airport shuttle terminus.

The other pic here is of the chess board in the Elizabeth St Mall.

Sorry I didn't get to meet anybody chess wise but ostensibly I was down visiting for the scenery.

Southpaw Jim
10-12-2006, 10:07 PM
The other pic here is of the chess board in the Elizabeth St Mall.

Sorry I didn't get to meet anybody chess wise but ostensibly I was down visiting for the scenery.

You missed the giant board and pieces in Franklin Square, only 2 blocks away! There's often some action there during lunch hours ;)

Southpaw Jim
11-12-2006, 09:06 PM
Kevin - when does HICC reconvene after the Xmas/NY break?

Kevin Bonham
11-12-2006, 11:57 PM
Kevin - when does HICC reconvene after the Xmas/NY break?

January 15th.

Haven't updated this thread for a while for our despairing mainland audiences doubtless waiting breathlessly for me to fail to win a tournament. :) Alas Bonham has won the One Hour followed by Saunders and Ivkovic. A double-round robin rapidplay (G15/+10) is now in progress with leaders including that Bonham chap again 8/9 Chadwick 7/8 and Ivkovic 8/12.

This was one of the wilder rapidplay games I've ever had. From my comically pointless greed on move 14 the game is very messy indeed for another 11 moves. I've tried analysing it using my old version of Fritz but the poor thing isn't entirely up to the challenge! If anyone can find a clear win for either side in all the mess from moves 14-25 I'd love to see it.

Saunders - Bonham

1.e4 e6 2.Nf3 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.d4 Be7 6.Bb5 Bd7 7.0-0 Nxe5 8.Nxe5 Bxb5 The standard trap, but with a few unusual twists. 9.Qh5 g6 10.Qf3 f6 11.Nd3! I missed this. At this point I completely forgot I was a pawn up and reasoned that my position was total trash and I needed to gain material to justify it! 11...cxd4 12.cxd4 Qb6 13.Nc3! Bc4 Had I realised I was a pawn up I could have just taken the knight. 14.Re1 Qxd4?! 15.Nf4! e5 16.Be3 e4 17.Qh3! [17.Bxd4! exf3 18.b3 Ba6 19.Nfxd5 Kf7 20.gxf3+/=] 17...Qe5 18.Nxg6! hxg6 19.Qxh8 d4 20.Bxd4 Qxd4 21.Rxe4 Qc5 22.Rae1 0-0-0 forced! 23.Qg7 Rd2 24.Nd1 g5 25.Qg6 Kd7 Taking on a2 here was probably better. 26.b3? White was probably even at worst before this but now goes downhill quickly in time trouble. 26...Bd3 27.Qxg8 Bxe4 28.Ne3 Qd6 29.Nc4 Rd1 0-1 on time

Southpaw Jim
12-12-2006, 10:00 PM
If anyone can find a clear win for either side in all the mess from moves 14-25 I'd love to see it.

Fritz 9 isn't suggesting anything momentous. A shootout analysis, however, gives white a score of 87% over 8 games (2x 3/5/7/9 ply) from move 16 onwards, eg:


16.Ne6 Qb6 17.Nxd5 Qa5 18.Ndc7+ Kf7 19.Rd1 Bxe6 20.Nxa8 Qb4 21.h3 Kg7 22.Nc7 Bf5 23. Nd5 Qb5 24.a4 Qa6 25.Be3 Bd6 26.g4 Be6 27.Rac1 e4 28.Qxe4 Bxd5 29.Qxd5 Be7 30.Rc7 g5 31.Qe4 1-0

Alternatively, the same analysis run on the position at move 25 scores white at a mere 50% over 8 games.

Dunno if this is at all meaningful though :uhoh:

Kevin Bonham
12-12-2006, 10:31 PM
Fritz 9 isn't suggesting anything momentous. A shootout analysis, however, gives white a score of 87% over 8 games (2x 3/5/7/9 ply) from move 16 onwards, eg:

Alternatively, the same analysis run on the position at move 25 scores white at a mere 50% over 8 games.

Dunno if this is at all meaningful though :uhoh:

Thanks for that.

Shootouts tend to indicate how easy the computer finds it to play a position quickly; they often miss best lines but can give a fair idea of who has the practical chances.


16.Ne6 Qb6 17.Nxd5 Qa5 18.Ndc7+ Kf7 19.Rd1 Bxe6 20.Nxa8 Qb4 21.h3 Kg7 22.Nc7 Bf5 23. Nd5 Qb5 24.a4 Qa6 25.Be3 Bd6 26.g4 Be6 27.Rac1 e4 28.Qxe4 Bxd5 29.Qxd5 Be7 30.Rc7 g5 31.Qe4 1-0

Wow, 16.Ne6!? I never even saw that, looks quite dangerous. Perhaps in the above game 19...Rb8 is OK for black but it's still extremely messy.

It was such a rich position for many moves.

Kevin Bonham
06-02-2007, 02:22 AM
The club AGM and Lightning will be held on Feb 19th with the club championship commencing on Feb 26th.

Bonham is guaranteed outright first in the rapidplay (13.5/15 with one to play) but his tedious domination of club events could be under threat if, among other things, a mysterious newcomer who is +3=2 against him in casual games thus far enters some tournaments!

Southpaw Jim
06-02-2007, 07:25 AM
Kev - no club on Monday 12th I take it?

antichrist
06-02-2007, 08:40 AM
KB, have you ever been accused of having a conflict of interest, you put comps on so that you can win the prizemoney?

Kevin Bonham
06-02-2007, 02:09 PM
Kev - no club on Monday 12th I take it?

Club is open Monday 12th despite the public holiday to the best of my knowledge. If it is off I will post here.


KB, have you ever been accused of having a conflict of interest, you put comps on so that you can win the prizemoney?

Not that I recall. In any case there is no prizemoney for the club events discussed on this thread.

Basil
06-02-2007, 03:16 PM
KB, have you ever been accused of having a conflict of interest, you put comps on so that you can win the prizemoney?
Damn you are twisted stirrer AC. That's damn funny as a comedic observation, but that's about all.

Kevin Bonham
12-02-2007, 11:55 PM
Final results of the HICC rapidplay event, a double round-robin (G15/+10). Ratings are rapidplay ratings where these differ from the player's normal rating. Each player's score over the board is given in brackets after their total score, as 13 of the 72 scheduled games not played were variously ruled as forfeits or draw-forfeits (unrated in either case), depending on attendance.

14.5 (14.5/16) K. Bonham 2099
9.5 (8.5/12) C. Chadwick 1756
9.5 (7.5/14) S. Cohen 1468
9 (8/14) M. Ivkovic 1585
8.5 (6.5/14) M. Midson 1540
8.5 (5.5/11) J. Martin 1571
5 (5/16) S. Bettiol 1359
4 (3/9) M. Saunders 1763
3.5 (.5/12) J. Abbott 1065
Scratched: 0/2 J. O'Mara 1548

Kevin Bonham
20-02-2007, 12:12 AM
The club's Lightning Championship was held tonight and attracted a good field of 11 players.

Here's a sample of the early action. I think John Watson should know about this:

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 c5 5.Nb5(TN) 0-1

Going into round eight, Nigel Frame (7/7) and Kevin Bonham (6/6+bye) led the event. Frame played a 2.Nf3/3.e5 French and Bonham got a very disorganised position but was able to untangle following exchanges. Bonham won a pawn going into the ending and although Frame was well ahead on the clock, White's bishop could do nothing against Black's knight.

Bonham almost dropped back to equal first in the second last round when he was totally outplayed by Peter Knight, leaving Knight about 25 seconds to convert with king, bishop and five pawns against king and three pawns. Knight duly delivered mate with 3 seconds on his clock but it was the other sort of mate and another half point went into the swindle bag.

The key last round games were Bonham-George and Frame-Cohen. Anything could have happened in the former with wild kingside attacks by both players into their final 20 seconds. What actually happened was George lost on time a few moves later - it appeared he would be mated next move but it was then discovered Bonham's queen was en prise! However this was academic in determining first place as meanwhile Cohen had beaten Frame.

9.5/10 K. Bonham
8 N. Frame
7.5 P. Knight
7 R. George
6 H. Sheerwater
5 C. Chadwick, S. Cohen
3 O. Williams
2 J. Abbott, M. Midson
0 G. Richards

Increments will be used in the Club Championship for the first time; an extra 10 seconds per move will be added to the 90 minutes flat from previous years.

Southpaw Jim
20-02-2007, 07:23 AM
It was nice to not come dead last for once! :)

As for the draw for the first few rounds... sheesh! :( :lol:

Kevin Bonham
20-02-2007, 07:36 PM
As for the draw for the first few rounds... sheesh! :( :lol:

Bonham, Frame, and Knight in a row first up! It was a complete fluke of the order that the names went on the paper in that that happened.

Kevin Bonham
05-03-2007, 11:28 PM
Club champs entries thus far (three weeks to go til entries are closed):

Neil Markovitz (USCF 2041), Kevin Bonham (2004), Peter Knight (1995), Charles Chadwick (1713), John Slidziunas (1675), Henry Sheerwater (1615), Milutin Ivkovic (1551), Mike Midson (1540), Janice Martin (1503), Scott Cohen (1468), Graham Richards (1335), James Abbott (1065), Andrew Kruup (UNR).

Tonight's games included a draw between Knight and Chadwick (Chadwick looked better towards the end but nothing concrete was found in the postmortem) and Sheerwater putting up a really good fight against Markovitz before the latter finally won.

Southpaw Jim
19-03-2007, 10:42 PM
An entertaining game from tonight's round of the club championships:

White: Kevin Bonham
Black: James Abbott (moi)
Result: 1-0

1. e4 d6 I prepared to hunker down into my usual Pirc 2. Nf3
When Kevin played Nf3 instead of d4, I decided to play a Sicilian instead.
I didn't expect to win, so I thought it'd be the ideal time to try something
different in a tournament game 2...c5 3. Bb5+ This wasn't unexpected, I knew
Kevin had a preference for the Moscow variation when playing against Sicilians 3...Bd7 4. Bxd7+ Nxd7 5. O-O Ngf6 6. Re1 e6 7. c3 Be7 8. d4 O-O 9. Qe2 a6 10. Bg5
Re8 11. Na3 e5 12. Rad1 h6 Should've exchanged on d4 13. Bh4 Nh5
14. Bxe7 Rxe7 Should've recaptured with the Queen 15. Nxe5 I didn't see this coming, and at this stage I thought I was much worse than I
really was 15...Ndf6 16. g4 Nf4 17. Qf3 dxe5 This exchange was a few
moves too late, and I forgot that the N on f6 would come under attack. This
was made worse by my next move... 18. dxe5 Qb6 19. Rd6 Kevin throws away some of his advantage here 19...Qxb2 20. exf6 Rc7 In a supreme effort to make life harder for myself, I put my rook in a
position where it can be subjected to an exposed attack 21. Qxf4 Qxa3 22.
fxg7 Qxc3 23. Red1 Re8 Kevin and I trade blunders here... 24.
Rd8 Rce7 25. Qxh6 Qxg7 26. Qxg7+ Kxg7 27. f3 b5 At this point it
was relatively even, and in the postmortem Kevin thought it was potentially
drawish 28. Kf2 Kf6 However, at this point my scintillating endgame
technique (or lack thereof) comes to the fore 29. Ke3 Kg5 Loses a pawn, the beginning of the end 30. Rxe8 Rxe8 31. Rd5+ Kf6 32. Rxc5
Re5 And here's the clanger. When behind in material, thou shalt not
trade down pieces... 33. Rxe5 Kxe5 34. f4+ Kd6 35. Kd4 Kc6 36. h4 Black resigned 1-0

Kevin, below are the results from a "shootout analysis" starting after 28.Kf2:


Shoot out:
----- Ply = 3 -----
Fritz 9 0-1
Fritz 9 0-1
----- Ply = 5 -----
Fritz 9 0-1
Fritz 9 0-1
----- Ply = 7 -----
Fritz 9 1-0
Fritz 9 1-0
----- Ply = 9 -----
Fritz 9 ½-½
Fritz 9 ½-½

Score White: 37%, 8 Games

It'd be nice to think I could score this well from the position, but I suspect that my nascent endgame technique would've handed the game to you on a platter eventually :lol:

Basil
19-03-2007, 11:07 PM
Hi James

It's taken me a year to find out your name. With that out of the way, I'll watch the game - odds on Bonham swindled you.

EDIT after viewing. No swindle, or mutual swindle at best. Yes, very entertaining.

Kevin Bonham
19-03-2007, 11:17 PM
It was a fun game and Eurotrash put up a very good fight but there were quite a lot of tactical errors:

15.Nxe5? - this is refuted by ...Nf4 winning a piece for two pawns since 16.Qg4 dxe5 17.dxe5 Ng6 (or ...Ne6) 18.f4, I had seen this position but forgot to count the knights! :doh: That said although White is objectively losing I have won a lot of games from this kind of position. I should have just played 15.dxe5 with Nc4 and a clear positional plus to follow.

17...Ne6 is best for black.

Yes 19.Rd6 is not the strongest but I wimped out of the superior 19.Nc4 on account of ...Qe6 not realising that then if 20.exf6 Qxe6 then 21.e5! Qg5 22.h4! wins a piece.

And again I didn't play Nc4 on move 21 because although it was obviously strong (I had seen 21....Qxa2 22.Nb6) I was too lazy to analyse exactly what I was winning and thought if I just took the knight instead I would quickly clean up on the kingside. Well, I might have if I'd played 24.Rf6 or Rxh6 instead of Rd8 which was rubbish.

My last in a very long series of tactical misses in this game was that 29.R1d6+ wins a pawn because if ...Re6?? 30.Rxe8 Rxd6 31.e5+ winning a rook!

I've looked at the position after 29.Kf2 quite a bit now and I suspect it's won for white with very best play but only just. In practical terms black has serious drawing chances.

Those shootouts are fun but below about ply 7-9 they tend to be full of blunders.

Aaron Guthrie
20-03-2007, 12:18 AM
I've looked at the position after 29.Kf2 quite a bit now and I suspect it's won for white with very best play but only just. In practical terms black has serious drawing chances.
Looks like one of those positions Korchnoi would spend pages and pages over to figure out what correct play is. Do you start with Rxd8 and Rc7 or c4 or something else?

Kevin Bonham
20-03-2007, 12:23 AM
Actually to be correct [edit: no, maybe next time!] I was looking at 28...c4 (instead of ...Kf6) 29.Kf2. After 28...Kf6 29.Kf2 white is probably still winning whatever black does.

Aaron Guthrie
20-03-2007, 12:40 AM
Actually to be correct I was looking at 28...c4 (instead of ...Kf6) 29.Kf2. After 28...Kf6 29.Kf2 white is probably still winning whatever black does.I'm a bit confused, the pgn in the thread gives 28.Kf2 Kf6. I agree Kf6 is no good, whatever move number it is coming on anyway.

Do you think it is better for Black to allow white to keep two rooks on? For some reason I feel as though that might be bad for him (some vague notion of the relative ability of how the rooks will co-ordinate in the future.) My alternative line was 28...Rxd8 29.Rxd8 Rc7 30. Ke3 and now I am not sure how the game should end up.

Kevin Bonham
20-03-2007, 12:54 AM
I'm a bit confused, the pgn in the thread gives 28.Kf2 Kf6. I agree Kf6 is no good, whatever move number it is coming on anyway.

Sorry, my brain's really not working tonight! I'll see if I can get this right (at the third attempt!) - I was looking at 28.Kf2 c4.

I'm not sure whether Black needs to get the rooks off right away as it is difficult for White to effectively avoid the rook swap without getting, at least briefly, tied to defence of the h-pawn.

Something interesting I have just noticed is that it may be possible for white to win after swapping both sets of rooks if this can be acheived. There appear to be positions where the white king and a-pawn can just hold the queenside while Black's king and f-pawn cannot stop the four pawns on the kingside.

Aaron Guthrie
20-03-2007, 01:10 AM
I'm not sure whether Black needs to get the rooks off right away as it is difficult for White to effectively avoid the rook swap without getting, at least briefly, tied to defence of the h-pawn.On second thoughts I'm not sure Black minds if the rooks are on, for example 28...c4 29.Ke3 b4 30.R8d4 Rc7 I had thought the White rook would be useful in pushing that h pawn, whereas the other Black rook is useless. But now it seems to me that pushing the h pawn is not going to be strong anyway, and the Black rook can be used effectively to help the black pawns run.

Something interesting I have just noticed is that it may be possible for white to win after swapping both sets of rooks if this can be acheived. There appear to be positions where the white king and a-pawn can just hold the queenside while Black's king and f-pawn cannot stop the four pawns on the kingside.Yes it seems to me that any king and pawn ending based on this structure is going to be won for white (assuming the king is on the queenside.) But I do not think it is a realistic idea that white will be able to force the rooks off.

Kevin Bonham
20-03-2007, 01:32 AM
Yes it seems to me that any king and pawn ending based on this structure is going to be won for white (assuming the king is on the queenside.) But I do not think it is a realistic idea that white will be able to force the rooks off.

No, it's very unlikely both sets will be forced off. But knowing the pure pawn ending is won (which I did not know in the game) gives White a few useful options. Firstly there's no problem crossing the d-file with a lone white rook on d1. Secondly if the white f-pawn stays on f3 and Black attacks it with ...Rf6 in some positions then White may have Rf5 as a defence.

I am getting a bit more sceptical about whether the position is won for white though. After your line 28...Rxd8 29.Rxd8 c4 30.Ke3 and now ...Rc7 31.Kd2 b4!? I am really struggling to find a win for white.

antichrist
20-03-2007, 08:20 AM
In one of these Tassie comps I was surprised to read a lot of European names, are they remnants of the hydro scheme?

Kevin Bonham
20-03-2007, 06:34 PM
In one of these Tassie comps I was surprised to read a lot of European names, are they remnants of the hydro scheme?

Do you mean the Tas Champs history thread? Used to be quite a lot of ex-Hydro players on the scene. I'm not sure if any of the current players are, maybe one or two of the older ones.

Kevin Bonham
27-03-2007, 12:14 AM
Full house tonight for the first time this year with all 14 entrants present and playing and a 15th, Steven Rust UNR, signing up. For the record Chadwick beat Midson, Knight beat Bettiol, Cohen beat Sheerwater in a long and interesting game, Kruup won his first rated game (against Martin), Richards drew with Ivkovic, Abbott drew with Slidziunas across a large rating difference and Bonham beat himself somewhere in the vicinity of Markovitz:

Actually at the time I thought 31...f5 was the game-losing blunder but it probably isn't, rather it just stops the game from being dead drawn right away and gives White chances, and then 33...Rb5? and the failed swindle attempt 43...Rd2?? both help White win easily under the impression that Black is more lost than is actually the case.

I haven't written any notes for the game up to ...f5 but the postmortem up to that point was very interesting. Annotation of the first 31 moves is left as an exercise for the andytoh. :lol:

Markovitz (US2041) - Bonham (2004)

1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 c6 3.g3 d5 4.Bg2 e6 5.0-0 Nbd7 6.d4 Be7 7.Qc2 0-0 8.Nbd2 b6 9.e4 dxe4 10.Nxe4 Bb7 11.Rd1 Nxe4 12.Qxe4 Nf6 13.Qc2 Qc7 14.Bf4 Bd6 15.Bxd6 Qxd6 16.Ne5 Rfb8 17.c5 bxc5 18.Qxc5 Qxc5 19.dxc5 Nd5 20.a3 f6 21.Nc4 a5 22.Bh3 Bc8 23.b4 axb4 24.axb4 Rxa1 25.Rxa1 e5 26.Bxc8 Rxc8 27.Nd6 Rb8 28.Ra7 Nxb4 29.Nf5 g6 30.Nh6+ Kh8 31.Rc7 This is drawn but Black gets a tad ambitious and decides to overprotect the c-pawn by threatening ...Kg7 winning knight if white takes on c6 after the black knight moves. 31...f5? overlooking what any cute fluffy baby bunny would jump upon in seconds 32.Nf7+ Kg8 33.Nxe5 Rb5? Now Black is really in big trouble [33...Ra8 with the idea 34.Nxc6 Na6 is better and may be good enough to hold although Black is on the back foot, given that White will not actually play 34.Nxc6] 34.Nxc6 Nd3 [34...Rxc5?? 35.Ne7+ prevents recovery of the pawn] 35.Ne7+ Kf8 36.c6 Rb1+ 37.Kg2 Rb2 38.Nd5 Rxf2+ 39.Kg1 Rc2 40.Rc8+ Kf7 41.c7 Ne5 42.Rh8 Nf3+ 43.Kf1 Rd2?? [Convinced I'm already dead lost I try to swindle a draw. But why not something I didn't even consider 43...Ke6 44.c8=Q+ Rxc8 45.Rxc8 Kxd5 when White at least has a lot of work to do?] 44.Rxh7+ Kg8 45.c8=Q+ [Good enough but it's surprising that White misses 45.Nf6+ Kf8 46.c8=Q+ Rd8 47.Qxd8#] 45...Kxh7 46.Qc7+ Kh8 47.Qc3+ Breaks up the draw net so black resigns.[To show what I was trying for, say white plays a total non-move like 47.Qb7?? then 47...Nxh2+ 48.Ke1 Nf3+ 49.Kf1 Nh2+ 50.Kg1 Nf3+ 51.Kf1 draw(51.Kh1 Rh2#) But white's new queen is always far too active for any of this nonsense.] 1-0

Basil
27-03-2007, 01:06 AM
Good game. Nicely annotated. Thanks.

Aaron Guthrie
27-03-2007, 05:11 PM
After 43...Ke6 the 44.c8Q line looks like a draw to me. That is without giving it much thought though. 44.Rd8 looks strong. I think computer analysis would find some 44th move giving a clear win. Human analysis would work to, of course, but for this position you just need to make sure the computer isn't missing a perpetual or something.

Kevin Bonham
27-03-2007, 05:20 PM
After 43...Ke6 the 44.c8Q line looks like a draw to me. That is without giving it much thought though. 44.Rd8 looks strong. I think computer analysis would find some 44th move giving a clear win. Human analysis would work to, of course, but for this position you just need to make sure the computer isn't missing a perpetual or something.

44.Rd8 Nxh2+ and Black seems to have at least a draw as White cannot make any better progress with the pawn than winning the exchange as in the 44.c8Q line.

This is the second recent game where I've beaten myself by thinking I was dead lost when I probably wasn't even losing at all. Quite out of character really. :rolleyes:

Aaron Guthrie
27-03-2007, 05:33 PM
44.Rd8 Nxh2+ and Black seems to have at least a draw as White cannot make any better progress with the pawn than winning the exchange as in the 44.c8Q line. Ugh, this is the second time I made this mistake on here. I copied the game position after f5 to a viewer (this is a hella old laptop, not worth analysing with) and then input a wrong move somewhere so that I had the Knight on d3. Hm actually my position was way off, I think I had Ke6 on move 41. I guess looking at the small board on chesschat might produce less errors than my copying errors :)

Kevin Bonham
02-04-2007, 11:18 PM
Club will open Easter Monday.

Club Champs leading scores at this early stage Cohen 3/3 Markovitz 2/2 Knight and Chadwick 3.5/4 Bonham 4/5 (work out for yourself which order these go in).

Tonight's games were all won according to rating (most of them easily) except that Bettiol beat Martin after the latter blundered a knight to a backwards bishop capture in an otherwise drawish minor piece ending.

Southpaw Jim
04-04-2007, 07:23 PM
A crosstable of the current standings if anyone's interested:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f209/eurotrashbag/crosstable.jpg

The spreadsheet automatically reports the leaders based on their fractional score - hence Cohen (3/3) and Markovitz (2/2) are listed as current leaders with a 100% score.

Kevin - let me know if I've missed any results.

Kevin Bonham
04-04-2007, 08:55 PM
Wow. Very work James (and Sante - I noticed Sante was noting down results which I assume went into this.) :clap: :clap:

Very observant observers will notice that Bonham is shown as having White against Markovitz but actually misread the crosstable and played with Black! This happens now and then but I can't remember having ever done it myself. :doh:

Southpaw Jim
04-04-2007, 10:23 PM
If there's any DoPs or arbiters out there that'd like a copy of the spreadsheet, let me know and I'll post it up. It's quite nifty :)

Garvinator
04-04-2007, 10:38 PM
If there's any DoPs or arbiters out there that'd like a copy of the spreadsheet, let me know and I'll post it up. It's quite nifty :)
Please post it up.

Btw, DOP and arbiter are the same thing ;)

Southpaw Jim
05-04-2007, 08:55 AM
Please post it up.

Done. Whilst the sheet isn't password protected, it is protected (with no password) and some things are hidden - more to protect it from people inadvertently breaking the formulae. In particular, the formula that reports the tournament leader is quite complex - so if you/anyone wants aspects of the sheet changed (eg space for more entrants) I recommend you ask me to make the changes ;)

Other than that, should be easy to operate - just enter the names and scores and off you go. Let me know if you find any problems with it too ;)

Kevin Bonham
09-04-2007, 11:37 PM
Six players turned up for Easter Monday which is not too bad. Markovitz is the only player on 100% after defeating Cohen, while Kruup defeated Rust and Knight and Bonham added yet another draw to their already large collection:

Knight - Bonham

1.d4 e6 2.c4 Nf6 3.Nc3 d5 4.e3 c6 5.Nf3 Nbd7 6.Be2 dxc4 7.Bxc4 b5 8.Bd3 a6 9.0-0 Bb7 10.Qe2 c5 11.dxc5 Bxc5 12.Rd1 0-0 13.b3 Qc7 14.Bb2 Bxf3 15.Qxf3 Ne5 16.Qe2 Nxd3 17.Rxd3 Rfd8 18.Rad1 Be7 19.h3 Rxd3 20.Rxd3 Rd8 21.Qd1 Rxd3 22.Qxd3 Qd8 23.Qxd8+ Bxd8 24.Kf1 Ba5 25.Ke2 Kf8 26.Kd3 Ke7 27.Ne4 Nxe4 28.Kxe4 g6 29.Ba3+ Kd7 30.g4 Bc3 31.Bf8 f5+ 32.gxf5 exf5+ 33.Kd5 Bf6 34.Bd6 h5 35.Be5 Bh4 36.f3 Bd8 37.e4 fxe4 38.fxe4 g5 39.Bh2 Bb6 40.e5 Bf2 41.e6+ Ke7 42.Bd6+ Ke8 43.Ke4 g4 44.hxg4 hxg4 45.Kf4 g3 46.Kf3 Be1 47.Kg2 Kd8 48.Kf1 Bf2 49.a3 Ke8 50.a4 Draw Agreed

16.Qg3 keeping the minor exchange was an interesting option for white. After letting White play 33.Kd5 I viewed my position somewhat pessimistically but I cannot yet find anything else White could have done to try to win the ending.

Capablanca-Fan
10-04-2007, 10:29 AM
Knight - Bonham

1.d4 e6 2.c4 Nf6 3.Nc3 d5 4.e3

This is slack against the Orthodox QGD. Against the Slav, it is necessary if White wants to avoid the complications of ...dxc4 and holding the pawn.


... c6

This is now unnecessary. Black could have achieved basically the same results as the game with an extra tempo.


5.Nf3 Nbd7 6.Be2 dxc4 7.Bxc4 b5 8.Bd3 a6 9.0-0 Bb7 10.Qe2

White should play e4 if he wants to fight for more than equality against the Meran.


16.Qg3 keeping the minor exchange was an interesting option for white.

Yeah, two Bs in a fairly open position. As it was, it was dull equality could have been duller, because Black didn't have to allow White to get his K so active. [/QUOTE]

Kevin Bonham
10-04-2007, 04:25 PM
This is now unnecessary. Black could have achieved basically the same results as the game with an extra tempo.

Black's just transposing into what he's comfortable with. ;) Though maybe I should look at playing 4...c5 against this move order, which seems to be a very common one down here.


As it was, it was dull equality could have been duller, because Black didn't have to allow White to get his K so active.

Indeed. A rather silly piece of inattention there and for a little while I was worried that I might be finding some ingenious way to lose.

Historically most games between us have been even more boring than that one although every now and then one of us wins, thus far more frequently him.

Capablanca-Fan
10-04-2007, 05:04 PM
Black's just transposing into what he's comfortable with. ;) Though maybe I should look at playing 4...c5 against this move order, which seems to be a very common one down here.

Not even any need to play it on move 4 although that's fine. One reason to play sharp lines for Black is that wimpy White players will allow Black an easier game than he's normally get. E.g. the exchange QGD is slack for White against ...c6+e6 because Black can develop his QB, as are anti-Marshall lines IMO.

Southpaw Jim
11-04-2007, 08:28 AM
Updated crosstable:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f209/eurotrashbag/crosstable-1.jpg

It'll be interesting to see if anyone can catch Markovitz now. Given his apparent strength I'd be surprised if any of his remaining opponents, bar Knight or maybe Chadwick or Slidziunas, will be able to get a point off him :hmm:

Then again, even world champions have brainfades :owned:

Southpaw Jim
17-04-2007, 08:44 AM
As Kevin was absent, I'll pick up the torch of tournament reporting. Every game was decided according to ratings.

Bettiol - Richards 1-0: Bettiol won the exchange thanks to a nasty fork, and despite some hairy moments converted the win.

Kruup - Slidziunas 0-1: I am told this was a close and bloody tactical fight, with little regard for safety.

Sheerwater - Ivkovic 1-0: Sheerwater won the game after Ivkovic resigned in the face of a couple of unstoppable pawns.

Chadwick - Abbott 1-0: Abbott blundered a knight early on, managed to hold the fort more or less for another 20 moves (hoping to swindle a draw in a minor piece ending) until committing another ridiculous error that gave away his rook for no compensation :wall: :uhoh:

Updated cross table:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f209/eurotrashbag/crosstable-2.jpg

Basil
17-04-2007, 02:03 PM
until committing another ridiculous error that gave away his rook for no compensation :wall: :uhoh:
Ah yes, The Torise Manoeuvre (as practised regularly by Duggan). Do you find it comes naturally James, or is diligent study and nights of self-denial necessary?

Viewers can find detailed instruction here (http://www.chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=150375&postcount=42) and here (http://www.chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=143332&postcount=12)

James, perhaps you'd like to share your game in The Pits & Shockers?

Southpaw Jim
17-04-2007, 02:17 PM
Hah. Indeed :( will post the full game as requested tonight (late, dining out).

The final indignity in all its glory:

1r6/B4kb1/6pp/1N1Rpp2/1P6/6P1/5PKP/8 b - - 5 30

Following 31.Ba7 I thought "yeah fine, I'll exchange rooks" and hastily played 31...Ke6. One can guess the fly in the ointment...

Southpaw Jim
17-04-2007, 02:18 PM
Oh, and a quick welcome to santeb72 after having lurked on this forum for some months now..

Basil
17-04-2007, 02:47 PM
Following 31.Ba7 I thought "yeah fine, I'll exchange rooks" and hastily played 31...Ke6. One can guess the fly in the ointment...

As Frosty did to me, I now pass the baton to you and hereby sentence you to:
http://www.chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=143811&postcount=9
From 'Learn The Lesson Once'.

Helpful? No, Didn't think so. I wonder is there is an ante-room in heaven for broken chess players who didn't learn the lesson after repeated bashings :P

Hi Sante.

Aaron Guthrie
17-04-2007, 02:54 PM
Hah. Indeed :( will post the full game as requested tonight (late, dining out).

The final indignity in all its glory:

1r6/B4kb1/6pp/1N1Rpp2/1P6/6P1/5PKP/8 b - - 5 30

Following 31.Ba7 I thought "yeah fine, I'll exchange rooks" and hastily played 31...Ke6. One can guess the fly in the ointment...But two options win so its a coin flip [runs and ducks for cover]

Southpaw Jim
17-04-2007, 03:33 PM
But two options win so its a coin flip [runs and ducks for cover]

Ha ha, yes indeed it was lost anyway.. but it's not possible to swindle a win/draw after you resign :P

12 months ago I would've resigned long before I got to this position, but nowadays I like to return the favour and give my opponent the opportunity to blunder away their advantage. Unlikely against a 1700ish opponent, granted, but hey – a 1700 player gave me a free knight 3 weeks ago… ;)

Capablanca-Fan
18-04-2007, 01:06 PM
An entertaining game from tonight's round of the club championships:

White: Kevin Bonham
Black: James Abbott (moi)
Result: 1-0

1. e4 d6 2. Nf3 c5 3. Bb5+ Bd7 4. Bxd7+ Nxd7 5. O-O Ngf6 6. Re1 e6 7. c3 Be7 8. d4 O-O 9. Qe2 a6 10. Bg5 Re8 11. Na3 e5

That's wrong without the light-squared Bs. White could consider dxc5!, Bxf6, Nc4-e3-d5 and Black would suffer for his weak light squares.

Capablanca-Fan
18-04-2007, 01:15 PM
44.Rd8 Nxh2+ and Black seems to have at least a draw as White cannot make any better progress with the pawn than winning the exchange as in the 44.c8Q line.

But with the R on d8, ... Ke6 is answered by the zwischenzug Nf4+ because Kd7 is impossible.

Southpaw Jim
18-04-2007, 03:33 PM
That's wrong without the light-squared Bs. White could consider dxc5!, Bxf6, Nc4-e3-d5 and Black would suffer for his weak light squares.

Thanks Jono, they're the kind of insights I don't get from Fritz. Whilst I'm trying to be more aware of such strategic/positional considerations in my play, I'm still tied up trying to eliminate the "??" moves from my games! :(

Southpaw Jim
23-04-2007, 11:22 PM
Quiet night at HICC tonight, only 3 tournament games played:

Kruup v Ivkovic 1-0: Kruup is certainly shaping up as a strong opponent, having claimed 2 scalps at 1500+.

Bettiol v Cohen 1-0: Bettiol missed an opportunity early on to win a knight, but eventually prevailed anyway.

Sheerwater v Abbott 1-0: Abbott stupidly lost the exchange around move 20, fought on doggedly and then, obviously wanting to make things really easy for Sheerwater, threw another rook away for no compensation :wall:

6k1/p4p2/1p1p2p1/2nPr3/2P5/4pR1P/PPB1RbP1/5K2 b - - 1 31

After black played the scintillating 32...Ne4??, there followed 33.Bxe4 Rxe4 34.Rfxf2 :doh:

Revised crosstable to be posted tomorrow.

Kevin Bonham
23-04-2007, 11:57 PM
Kruup v Ivkovic 1-0: Kruup is certainly shaping up as a strong opponent, having claimed 2 scalps at 1500+.

He's going quite nicely indeed given his relative lack of experience, although Ivkovic's playing strength is all over the place from game to game.

Thanks very much for the updates - have been following with interest and will be back on board next week. Glad the club was able to open up OK this week; I think just about the entire executive was away!

Southpaw Jim
24-04-2007, 08:30 AM
As promised:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f209/eurotrashbag/crosstable070423.jpg

Markovitz remains on top, with Chadwick, Knight & Bonham nipping at his heels. I have a feeling Kruup may actually have beaten Cohen, in which case he is also in the chase.

santeb72
26-04-2007, 12:03 AM
Owen indeed defeated Kruup.

Here is my game against Owen, where he tries a queen vs 2 rook exchange that doesnt quite come off.
Things to note.

1. 8.Ne5 was interesing, could have won a pawn in the exchange, with the Bg2 aiming for the a8 rook. but played chicken instead with 8 Qc2
2. 25 ....Qxf5 is the Queen exchange that changes the game.
3. 43 Qxc5 wins, causing if 42...Rxb7, then 43 Qxf8 Kxf8 then 44 dQ mate.
4. missed 54 Qgg7 mate

Event: Hobart Chess Club Mar 07 90 min 10 sec
White: Bettiol
Black: Owen
Result: 1-0
ECO: E00
WhiteElo: 1351
BlackElo: 1468
{159MB, Fritz8.ctg, SANTEPC} 1. d4 e6 2. c4 Nf6 3. g3 Nc6 4. Bg2 Be7 5. Nf3 O-O
6. O-O d6 7. Nc3 b6 8. Qc2 Rb8 9. e4 e5 10. d5 Nb4 11. Qb3 Nd3 12. Nb5 Nc5 13.
Qc2 a5 14. Nd2 Bd7 15. Nc3 Qc8 16. Nb3 Bh3 17. Nxc5 Bxg2 18. Kxg2 bxc5 19. f4
exf4 20. Bxf4 Nh5 21. Rae1 Nxf4+ 22. Rxf4 Bg5 23. Rf5 Bf6 24. Nb5 Re8 25. b3
Qxf5 26. exf5 Rxe1 27. Nxc7 Rb7 28. Qd2 Re5 29. Qxa5 Rb8 30. Qa7 Rf8 31. Nb5
Re7 32. Qb6 Re2+ 33. Kh3 Rxa2 34. Nxd6 Bd4 35. Ne4 Bg1 36. d6 Rxh2+ 37. Kg4 h5+
38. Kf3 Ra2 39. d7 Raa8 40. Nd6 Rab8 41. Nb7 Bd4 42. Qc7 Bf6 43. Nxc5 h4 44.
gxh4 Bxh4 45. Nb7 Be7 46. c5 Bxc5 47. Nxc5 g6 48. Nb7 gxf5 49. b4 f6 50. b5 f4
51. b6 f5 52. d8=Q Rxb7 53. Qg5+ Kh8 54. Qxb7 Rf7 55. Qh5+ 1-0

Garvinator
26-04-2007, 12:46 AM
Hello Eurotrash,

I have been attempting to get your cross table format to work in the latest chesschat correspondence tournament.

This is what I have, but it doesnt seem to be working properly.

Aaron Guthrie
26-04-2007, 06:31 AM
1. 8.Ne5 was interesing, could have won a pawn in the exchange, with the Bg2 aiming for the a8 rook. but played chicken instead with 8 Qc2
8.Ne5 de5 9.Bxc6 Ba6!? 10. dxe5! Ng4 11.Bxa8 Qxa8 isn't that clear 12.Qd4 h5 [12...f5 13.exf6 Nxf6 (13...Nxf2 14.Qxf2) 14.Be3 +-] 13 h3 Rd8! 14.Qf4 g5!

Southpaw Jim
26-04-2007, 09:15 AM
Hello Eurotrash,

I have been attempting to get your cross table format to work in the latest chesschat correspondence tournament.

This is what I have, but it doesnt seem to be working properly.

Hi Garv,

Not sure what you've done, but it looks like you've completely broken it! :lol: Deleting rows and columns has certainly fuXored some of the formulae.

Is this a double round robin tournament? The spreadsheet isn't built to handle scores of 2, which is why the total scores wouldn't have been working properly. I think I can fix this, but let me know if people are indeed meant to have scores of 2.

EDIT: I've taken off my lazy pants & had a look at the tournament's thread. I should have a fixed spreadsheet ready to upload, that handles scores of 0-2 properly, sometime tonight.

Garvinator
26-04-2007, 01:47 PM
Hi Garv,

Not sure what you've done, but it looks like you've completely broken it! :lol: Deleting rows and columns has certainly fuXored some of the formulae. Ok noted, can't delete rows and columns to equal number of participants. Shame though.


Is this a double round robin tournament? The spreadsheet isn't built to handle scores of 2, which is why the total scores wouldn't have been working properly. I think I can fix this, but let me know if people are indeed meant to have scores of 2.

EDIT: I've taken off my lazy pants & had a look at the tournament's thread. I should have a fixed spreadsheet ready to upload, that handles scores of 0-2 properly, sometime tonight.The first half of this quote has been answered in the edit :)

Southpaw Jim
26-04-2007, 02:37 PM
Ok noted, can't delete rows and columns to equal number of participants. Shame though.

Not really - all you have to do is hide them (doesn't affect the formulae).

I think this works:

Kevin Bonham
01-05-2007, 09:46 PM
Markovitz 1/2-1/2 Knight

The final clash involving the three favourites saw Markovitz with a positional edge which ended up in a knight vs bishop ending where the knight though clearly better was unable to make headway against accurate defence. Still a good result for Markovitz keeping his one-point lead over Knight and Bonham intact.

Ivkovic 0-1 Bonham

Skittles game that finished with the clocks reading 84:25 - 85:10 on move 21 as both players played ridiculously fast (White because he knows no other way, Black because what little of his mind was awake was elsewhere). Ivkovic lost a piece to a cheap trick then walked into a crushing combination.

Kruup 0-1 Chadwick

The unrated dangerman gave the former state champion a decent scare, including missing a revealed attack that would have placed him at least a pawn up, possibly more. However Chadwick later won the exchange and converted the ending easily.

Bettiol 1/2-1/2 Rust

HICC's newest member is off the mark after a very topsy-turvy game which both players were clearly winning at various points.

Sheerwater 0-1 Slidziunas

Not sure exactly what happened here but it was all over in the early 20s.

santeb72
01-05-2007, 10:04 PM
Chadwick according to Eurostrash HICC spreadsheet is now in the lead !

Kevin Bonham
01-05-2007, 10:14 PM
Chadwick according to Eurostrash HICC spreadsheet is now in the lead !

Indeed. I have edited my post accordingly!

santeb72
01-05-2007, 10:15 PM
crosstable attached

santeb72
01-05-2007, 10:29 PM
Bettiol Vs Rust.
Many missed chances for both players. Draw a fair result.


Event: Hobart Chess Club Mar 07 90 min 10 sec

[Date "2007.04.30"]

White: Bettiol, Sante
Black: Rust, Steven
Result: 1/2-1/2

[PGN]{159MB, Fritz8.ctg, SANTEPC} 1. e4 e5 2. d4 Nc6 3. d5 Nb8 4. Nf3 d6 5. c4 Bg4
6. Be2 c6 7. Qb3 b6 8. O-O Nf6 9. Nc3 a6 10. Be3 c5 11. Nd2 Bxe2 12. Nxe2 Ng4
13. f4 Qf6 14. fxe5 Qxe5 15. Bf4 Qf6 16. Qxb6 Nd7 17. Qb7 Qd8 18. Qb3 Nb6 19.
Qf3 Qd7 20. h3 Nf6 21. e5 dxe5 22. Bxe5 Be7 23. Rae1 O-O 24. Qg3 Nh5 25. Qd3
Rae8 26. Ne4 f6 27. Bh2 Qa4 28. d6 Bd8 29. Nxc5 Qxa2 30. d7 Re7 31. Bd6 Qxc4
32. Qxc4+ Nxc4 33. Bxe7 Bxe7 34. Nf4 Bxc5+ 35. Kh2 Nxf4 36. Rxf4 Bd6 37. Re8
Bxf4+ 38. g3 Bc7 39. Rc8 Nb6 40. Rxc7 Nxd7 41. Rxd7 f5 42. Kg2 Rb8 43. Rd2 h5
44. Kf3 Rb3+ 45. Kf4 g6 46. Rg2 Kg7 47. Kg5 Kf7 48. g4 Rxh3 49. gxh5 Rxh5+ 50.
Kf4 Kf6 51. Rc2 Rh4+ 52. Kg3 Kg5 53. Rc6 f4+ 54. Kg2 Rg4+ 55. Kf3 a5 56. Rc5+
Kh4 57. Rxa5 g5 58. Rc5 Kh3 59. b4 Rg3+ 60. Kf2 Rb3 61. Rxg5 f3 62. Rg3+ Kh4
63. Rxf3 Rxb4 1/2-1/2

Capablanca-Fan
01-05-2007, 11:54 PM
Tony Dowden not playing then?

Kevin Bonham
02-05-2007, 12:18 AM
Tony Dowden not playing then?

Tony lives in Launceston which is 200 km away. There is a Launceston Chess Club but I don't believe it has active weekly tournaments at the moment, although it runs weekenders.

Kevin Bonham
07-05-2007, 11:21 PM
A few games finished early so a few people played twice tonight

Cohen 0-1 Martin
Kruup 0-1 Bettiol
Ivkovic 0-1 Chadwick
Bonham 1-0 Bettiol
Markovitz 1-0 Kruup
Martin 0-1 Midson

Markovitz was "lucky" - he got nothing out of the opening, and found himself in a worse bishop for knight ending, but Kruup exchanged off into a pure pawn ending and this position was reached:

1.d5 e5? [1...exd5 2.Kc5 d4=] 2.a4 f5 3.a5 g5 4.d6+ Kxd6 5.Kb6 f4 6.Kxb7 fxg3?? [Just inexperience here. Had Black calculated all options he might have seen that 6...e4 results in both sides queening - 7.a6 e3 8.fxe3 f3 9.a7 f2 10.a8=Q f1=Q etc is very hard to win] 7.hxg3 and white won

Marlboroman
08-05-2007, 07:15 PM
[QUOTE=santeb72]Owen indeed defeated Kruup.

Here is my game against Owen, where he tries a queen vs 2 rook exchange that doesnt quite come off.
Things to note.

1. 8.Ne5 was interesing, could have won a pawn in the exchange, with the Bg2 aiming for the a8 rook. but played chicken instead with 8 Qc2
2. 25 ....Qxf5 is the Queen exchange that changes the game.
3. 43 Qxc5 wins, causing if 42...Rxb7, then 43 Qxf8 Kxf8 then 44 dQ mate.

???

44... Bxd8 and black wins.

santeb72
08-05-2007, 08:56 PM
Thanks Marlboroman. Good one to pick up. Missed something somewhere ??

santeb72
08-05-2007, 09:15 PM
My games from Monday night. A mixed bag.

Game 1. Against Krupp. First time I have played the Budapest Gambit and went ok.
Game 2. Against Kevin. Didnt develop at all, and got punished quite badly.

Both games were under 20 moves.



Event: Hobart Chess Club Mar 07 90 min 10 sec
Date: 2007.05.08
White: Krupp, Andrew
Black: Bettiol, Sante
Result: 0-1
ECO: A52


{} 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e5 3. dxe5 Ng4 4. Nf3 d6 5. exd6
Bxd6 6. Nc3 Be6 7. b3 Nc6 8. h3 Qf6 9. Bd2 Nh6 10. Nb5 O-O-O 11. Bg5 Bb4+ 12.
Bd2 a6 13. Nbd4 Nxd4 14. Nxd4 Rxd4 15. e3 Rxd2 16. Qh5 Qxa1+ 0-1

santeb72
08-05-2007, 09:23 PM
Event: Hobart Chess Club Mar 07 90 min 10 sec
Date: 2007.05.08
White: Bonham, Kevin
Black: Bettiol, Sante
Result: 1-0
ECO: B07


1. e4 d6 2. Nf3 b6 3. d4 Bb7 4. Bd3 Nf6 5. Qe2 a5 6. c4 Nfd7 7. O-O h6 8. Nc3
e6 9. Bf4 Na6 10. Rfd1 Nb4 11. Bb1 Nc6 12. d5 exd5 13. exd5+ Ne7 14. Nd4 Nf6
15. Bc2 g6 16. Ba4+ Nd7 17. Ncb5 Qc8 18. Bxd6 c6 19. Bxe7 cxb5 20. Bf6+ 1-0

santeb72
08-05-2007, 09:44 PM
Crosstable after all the matches from the 7th May.

Kevin Bonham
08-05-2007, 09:54 PM
You're missing Martin's win against Cohen, which finally got her off the mark. (It has sometimes been noted that Martin is more dangerous in weekenders than club events.)

I saw the start of that game and there were some wild tactics with both queens en prise and plenty of tactical errors. At one point Cohen took a pawn with his queen since Martin's queen was en prise. Martin could have taken a bishop with her queen with check and won a piece but instead chose to take a pawn with her queen with check, then take Cohen's queen, winning nothing but she was already a pawn or two up anyway.

santeb72
08-05-2007, 10:15 PM
Crosstable now updated

Kevin Bonham
15-05-2007, 12:53 AM
Chadwick 1-0 Bonham (game here (http://www.chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=153980&postcount=10))
Richards 0-1 Sheerwater
Bettiol 0-1 Markovitz (pretty good fight I think)

This puts the defending champion completely out of contention while Markovitz and Chadwick, each having beaten Bonham and drawn with Knight, have a very big game coming up sometime! (Chadwick is white.)

santeb72
15-05-2007, 12:19 PM
My game against Neil. Going well, until blunder at move 36. These things happen sometimes.

Event: Hobart Chess Club Mar 07 90 min 10 sec
White: Bettiol, Sante
Black: Markovitz, Neil
Result: 0-1
ECO: B27
WhiteElo: 1351
BlackElo: 2041


1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g6 3. g3 Nc6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. O-O d6 6. d3 e5 7. Be3 Nge7 8. Qd2
O-O 9. Bh6 Nd4 10. Bxg7 Nxf3+ 11. Bxf3 Kxg7 12. Nc3 Be6 13. Bg2 f6 14. Ne2 b5
15. f4 Rb8 16. Rf3 Bg4 17. Rf2 Bxe2 18. Qxe2 b4 19. h4 Nc6 20. Bh3 Nd4 21. Qd2
h6 22. c3 Nc6 23. Be6 Qb6 24. Kg2 Ne7 25. Bc4 Qc6 26. Re1 d5 27. Bb3 dxe4 28.
dxe4 c4 29. Bc2 Rfd8 30. Qe3 bxc3 31. Qxa7 Rb7 32. Qa5 Rd2 33. Qxc3 Rxf2+ 34.
Kxf2 Qb6+ 35. Kf1 Qxb2 36. Rb1 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Qxc3 0-1

Kruupy
15-05-2007, 05:08 PM
Hi all,

finally found this thread thanks to Sante pointing it out - though a few games of mine have already been posted, clearly not playing great at the moment. I keep missing moves/making blunders, which my opponents keenly show me after the match lol. Some of you may have heard me say it many times but im sure its due to a lack of concentration lol.

Who here is playing in the tournament up in burnie?

From Kruupy.

Southpaw Jim
15-05-2007, 10:32 PM
Welcome aboard Kruupy! I for one won't be going to Burnie (can't get the leave pass from the wife) but I intend entering the weekender in September here in Hobart.

Kevin Bonham
21-05-2007, 11:51 PM
Markovitz now leads outright and can win outright taking a draw in any one of his remaining games if needed, after Chadwick had an upset loss to rock-solid play from Scott Cohen who never gave him much of a sniff before winning after a big blunder in time trouble.

Other results:

Markovitz 1-0 Martin
The leader had a crushing position with two bishops against two knights and some big pawn structure holes before Martin walked into pin winning Q for R and resigned immediately.
Rust 0-1 Ivkovic
Martin 1-0 Rust
Both these were won pretty easily.
Slidziunas 1-0 Richards
If you know the style of these two players you can pretty safely guarantee at least one kingside will end up trashed and this is exactly what happened. Slidziunas is now 5/6 but has not played any of the higher-rated players yet.
Abbott 0-1 Bettiol
Pretty close but ended up in a double rook ending with Bettiol two pawns to the good.
Kruup 0-1 Sheerwater
An even less lucky endgame self-swindle than last week for Andrew! He won the exchange after Henry played an unsound intermediate move, and was still the exchange up in this rather tricky (but won with best play) position.

8/8/5p2/1R2b3/P1P1k3/3p2p1/6P1/5K2 w - - 1 44

White to play and lose in the most artistic (and instructive!) way possible! Any guesses?

Kruupy
22-05-2007, 12:42 AM
Groan, I could not believe that game!, I was very upset afterwards lol. But I dont think im very competitive for the championship anyway so I guess as
long as I learn something from it I will get better (I hope). I felt the opening and middle game was played very well by myself however end game and general calculation was pretty pathetic.

Oh well, much to learn
Anyone know where/how to improve endgame calculation? - any suggestions on specific games? Thanks all!
From Kruupy.

Bill Gletsos
22-05-2007, 12:58 AM
Kruup 0-1 Sheerwater
An even less lucky endgame self-swindle than last week for Andrew! He won the exchange after Henry played an unsound intermediate move, and was still the exchange up in this rather tricky (but won with best play) position.

8/8/5p2/1R2b3/P1P1k3/3p2p1/6P1/5K2 w - - 1 44

White to play and lose in the most artistic (and instructive!) way possible! Any guesses?Did he play something like 1. Rxe5+ fxe5 2. a5 Ke3 3. Ke1 d2+ 4. Kd1 Kd3 5. a6 e4 6. a7 e3 7. a8=Q e2# ?

Kevin Bonham
22-05-2007, 01:17 AM
Did he play something like 1. Rxe5+ fxe5 2. a5 Ke3 3. Ke1 d2+ 4. Kd1 Kd3 5. a6 e4 6. a7 e3 7. a8=Q e2# ?

:clap: That was exactly it, except he saw what was coming and resigned after ...Kd3. I think I saw it about two minutes after Rxe5+ - Henry thought for a long time about which way to take it.

It's reminiscent of one of those strange puzzles where you pick the piece that gives mate and it is the most unlikely-looking piece to do it possible, in this case the f6-pawn. How unlucky can you be?

Kruupy: the best way to avoid losses like that is simply more and more and more experience; over time one develops a kind of "match toughness" that makes you instinctively wary of that sort of thing, so that it may happen now and then but not often. But also an important thing is to always look for ways to keep the opposition's pawns under control in the ending. Danger pawns are the biggest cause of endgame swindles.

It's actually not the easiest position to calculate but 1.a5 wins. If Black tries to queen the d-pawn then 1...Bc3 2.a6 Ke3 3.a7 and you can drop back with Rb1. If Black tries to win the g-pawn then 1...Ke3 2.Ke1 Bc3+ 3.Kd1 Kf2 4.a6 Bd4 5.c5! Kxg2 6.a7 Kf2 7.a8Q g2 8.Qa2+ Kf1 9.Kd2 and now if he gets his queen back you can immediately win it for a rook and otherwise hassle his king. But that's a long way ahead to see from the starting position ... I think a lot of club players would have found the position difficult to win for white.

Aaron Guthrie
22-05-2007, 01:19 AM
:clap: That was exactly it, except he saw what was coming and resigned after ...Kd3. I think I saw it about two minutes after Rxe5+ - Henry thought for a long time about which way to take it.I was trying to figure out some rook deflection sac that didn't work.

Re Krumpy, I hear solving endgame studies blind is good, though hard.

Southpaw Jim
22-05-2007, 08:41 AM
As Kevin says, Abbott-Bettiol was close - a bit of back and forth, with a lot of tactical bombs flying about, until Abbott fell on his own grenade, starting with 23.Qb5.

Event: HICC club championships
White: James Abbott
Black: Sante Bettiol
Result: 0-1
WhiteElo: 1065
BlackElo: 1351

1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qd8 4. Nf3 {MCO footnotes this line as "wimpy", and MCO is probably right! better was d4} 4... Nf6 5. Bc4 e6 6. d3 {eeurgh, passive, 0-0 was better I think} 6... Be7 7. Be3 0-0 8. Qd2 c6 9. a4 Bb4 10. 0-0 Nbd7 11. Ng5 Nd5 12. Bxd5 cxd5 13. d4 Nb6 14. Ra2 {better was Qd3} 14... Nc4 15. Qd3 f5 16. Nf3 Nxe3 17. Qxe3 Bxc3 18. Qxc3 Bd7 19. Ne5 Rc8 20. Qb3 b6 21. Nxd7 {don't ask me why I exchanged a good knight for a bad-ish bishop, I don't know} 21... Qxd7 22. Re1 Rf6 23. Qb5 {I should've played 23.c3!? and I knew c3 needed to be played, but 1 brainfade later and I played the wrong move first, losing a pawn} 23... Qxb5 24. axb5 Rxc2 25. Rxa7 Rxb2 26. Re7 Kf8 27. Rb7 Rxb5 28. Rc1 Kg8 29. g3 h5 30. Rc6 Rb4 31. Rcxb6 Rxd4 32. Re7 Re4 33. Rbb7 Rg6 34. Re8+ Kh7 35.h4 f4 36. Rbb8 {it was pretty much all over at this point, but I played on in the hope that Sante would accidentally resign} 36... Re1+ 37. Kh2 fxg3+ 38. fxg3 Re2+ 39. Kh3 Rf6 40. Rf8 Ref2 41. Rxf6 Rxf6 42. Rb6 e5 43. Rxf6 {trading down into a completely lost pawn ending, but not much else to do} 43... gxf6 44. Kg2 Kg6 45. Kf2 Kf5 46. Kf3 e4+ 47. Ke3 Kg4 0-1

:mad: doesn't look like my rating will be improving this year :(

Kruupy: I read somewhere that to win a lot of endgames, you have to start by losing a lot of endgames! :lol:

FWIW, if anyone's looking for an instructional (ie not a reference like Karsten & Muller) endgame text, I heartily recommend the recently released Silman's Complete Endgame Course. Nice, clear, conversational text, not full of overwhemling detail, and organised by rating level (ie the chapters are organised by theory for 1000-1200, 1200-1400, 1400-1600, etc up to 2400).

Southpaw Jim
22-05-2007, 09:02 AM
Revised crosstable:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f209/eurotrashbag/crosstable070521.jpg

Capablanca-Fan
22-05-2007, 04:28 PM
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qd8 4. Nf3 {MCO footnotes this line as "wimpy", and MCO is probably right! better was d4} 4... Nf6 5. Bc4 e6 6. d3 {eeurgh, passive, 0-0 was better I think}

4.Nf3 was OK. A good development plan would be d4, Bd3, Qe2. Be3 and Qd2 are too automatic, just developing without really trying to find the best spots.


6... Be7 7. Be3 0-0 8. Qd2 c6 9. a4 Bb4 10. 0-0 Nbd7 11. Ng5 Nd5 12. Bxd5 cxd5 13. d4 Nb6 14. Ra2 {better was Qd3} 14... Nc4 15. Qd3 f5

15...g6 seems better, because White is not in a good position to take advantage of the Q-side weaknesses, while the e5 weakness looks more serious here.


16. Nf3 Nxe3 17. Qxe3 Bxc3 18. Qxc3 Bd7 19. Ne5 Rc8 20. Qb3 b6 21. Nxd7 {don't ask me why I exchanged a good knight for a bad-ish bishop, I don't know}

And I guess we can't ask him why the previous two minor piece exchanges helped White gain perfect control of e5. Black was better after W16.


21... Qxd7 22. Re1 Rf6 23. Qb5 {I should've played 23.c3!? and I knew c3 needed to be played, but 1 brainfade later and I played the wrong move first, losing a pawn}

Yes, White would be better still, but not as good as before Nxd7.

charleschadwick
22-05-2007, 07:13 PM
Hi Kruppy
I am thinking of going to Burnie.
My favourite endgame book is Essential Chess Endings, James Howell
Endgame problem books are good too, there are good endgame problems included in Chess School 1b, and 2 by Sergei Ivaschenko which are very good tactical problem books. !b is easier than 2. Chernev, Practical Chess Endings is good too. I expect there are good endgame training CDs but I don't know anything about them.
Also, and this is advice I should take myself, good time management is vital, keep time for the endgame.
cheers Charles

charleschadwick
22-05-2007, 07:15 PM
Wow
I used the word good several times above.
cheers Charles

santeb72
22-05-2007, 08:54 PM
My advice for all study, both opening, middle and endgames (though I am only ranked 1351, which makes me no expert) but...

Get an IPAQ, 1950 model is fine, otherwise if you want a good xmas present, get a HP iPAQ rx4000 Mobile Media Companion model check out www.hp.com.

Ebay should get a good cheapie 1950 model for about $100 - $150.

Go to your local chess web site. chessaustralia is pretty good, but there may be others. Get yourself the Pocket Chess Set (5 CDs) CONVEKTA for $115.00

Which contain

Pocket Chess Combinations
Pocket Chess Endings
Pocket Chess Strategy
Pocket Encyclopedia Middlegame
Pocket Open Blunders

and Pocket CT ART.All from Convekta. ($40)


Each one of these contain heaps of theory, and approx 1000 exercises. So about 6000 exercise in total. Done on the IPAQ, so its very portable, and accessable. Take it everywhere. So always have chess on the go.
Maybe get Pocket Fritz as well to analyse your games.
Books are fine, but those with young familaries will know, is that you have only got a small amount of time to get the books out, and set up pieces ect, without the little ones getting in the way. So with an IPAQ you can do your exercises really quickly.

So in all, you should have enough exercises for the next few years anyway. Like learning a language, the piano, studying engineering or playing the guitar, lots of practise. I reakon you have to be pretty obsessive about it too, if you want to be good at it. Like anything else I suppose.

Southpaw Jim
22-05-2007, 09:50 PM
Wow
I used the word good several times above.
cheers Charles

LOL. Welcome aboard Charles!

James.

santeb72
29-05-2007, 01:00 AM
This game was a very long and tight affair. Started at 9.30pm at the club, and we didnt finish till 12.40 am.
So understandable a few blunders happened. For White, move 58 wasnt the best as it allowed Black a pawn to have a free run down the file. Fritz gives 58 Qd3 +7 as the winning move. Big attack down the h file was missed.

When the game reached a simple KP vs K ending, Blacks 78th move, Kd8 was a blunder. Which allowed white to swindle the win. All black had to do was 78..Ke8 Draw.



Event: Hobart Chess Club Mar 07 90 min 10 sec
Date: 2007.05.29
Round: 12
White: Bettiol, Sante
Black: Midson, Mike
Result: 1-0
ECO: B00
WhiteElo: 1351
BlackElo: 1540


{159MB, Fritz8.ctg, SANTEPC} 1. e4 a6 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. g3 e5 4. Bg2 d6 5. O-O Be7
6. c3 Nf6 7. d3 h6 8. Nbd2 Bg4 9. Qb3 Qc8 10. Qc2 O-O 11. b3 Rd8 12. Bb2 Qd7
13. Kh1 Na7 14. d4 c6 15. dxe5 dxe5 16. Rad1 Qc7 17. c4 c5 18. Bxe5 Qc6 19. h3
Bh5 20. g4 Bg6 21. Nh4 Nd7 22. Nxg6 Qxg6 23. Bg3 Nc6 24. Nf3 Nb4 25. Qb1 Nf6
26. a3 Nc6 27. Nh4 Qh7 28. Nf5 Bf8 29. e5 Nd7 30. Be4 g6 31. Bxc6 bxc6 32. Nd6
Qg7 33. Nb7 Rdb8 34. Rxd7 Ra7 35. Nxc5 Bxc5 36. Rxa7 Bxa7 37. e6 Re8 38. exf7+
Qxf7 39. Qc1 Kg7 40. Qc3+ Kh7 41. Kg2 c5 42. Qd2 Re6 43. Bf4 h5 44. Bg3 Bb6 45.
Qd5 hxg4 46. hxg4 Qe7 47. Rh1+ Kg7 48. Qa8 Bd8 49. Bh4 g5 50. Bg3 Rb6 51. Qf3
Rf6 52. Qc3 Qe4+ 53. f3 Qe2+ 54. Bf2 Qe7 55. b4 Bb6 56. bxc5 Bxc5 57. Bxc5 Qxc5
58. Rh7+ Kxh7 59. Qxf6 Qxc4 60. Qxg5 Qa2+ 61. Kg3 Qxa3 62. Qf5+ Kg8 63. g5 a5
64. g6 Qd6+ 65. f4 Qc7 66. Qb5 Kg7 67. Qh5 Kg8 68. Kg4 a4 69. Qd5+ Kg7 70. Qd4+
Kxg6 71. f5+ Kh7 72. Qxa4 Qg7+ 73. Kf4 Qf6 74. Qd7+ Kg8 75. Qe6+ Qxe6 76. fxe6
Kf8 77. Kf5 Ke7 78. Ke5 Kd8 79. Kf6 Ke8 80. e7 Kd7 81. Kf7 Kc8 82. e8=Q+ 1-0

Kevin Bonham
29-05-2007, 01:27 AM
Surprised Mike wouldn't know a basic KP ending off by heart. Perhaps he was very tired.

Abbott 0-1 Markovitz
Didn't see that much of this, think it was just a case of too much control of the board
Cohen draw Knight
Another impressive result for Scott - one pawn was under great pressure but got off the hook and Knight ran out of pieces to try to force a win with. Knight now has four draws!
Kruup 0-1 Bonham
A few iffy moves got White's queenside carved up very quickly in an Exchange Slav like position
Slidziunas 1-0 Chadwick
Chadwick had the better position and was ahead on the clock but overcomplicated and ran into serious trouble in a queen and minor piece ending eventually losing on time
Richards 0-1 Martin
Both these players are dangerous on an open board which is exactly what they got but Martin with two bishops prevailed
Bettiol 1-0 Midson as above.

Slidziunas is now a point clear in second but still with Markovitz, Knight and Bonham to play.

Capablanca-Fan
29-05-2007, 02:08 AM
This game was a very long and tight affair. Started at 9.30pm at the club, and we didnt finish till 12.40 am.

White was winning for much of the game, with strong material and positional advantages. I don't think much of the stodgy opening play by both sides though, refusing to seize the initiative in the centre.

Basil
29-05-2007, 02:17 AM
I don't think much of the stodgy opening play by both sides though, refusing to seize the initiative in the centre.
I believe Nimzowich and Tartakower called it the 'Hyper-reluctant'! Boom boom.

Congratulations, Sante.

Southpaw Jim
29-05-2007, 08:34 AM
Event: Club champs 2007
White: Abbott, James
Black: Markovitz, Neil
Result: 0-1
ECO: B24

1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 g6 3. d3 Bg7 4. g3 Nc6 5. Bg2 Rb8 6. Be3 b5 7. Nge2 b4 8. Na4 d6 9. c3 {better was 9.a3!?} 9... Nf6 10. O-O O-O 11. Bf4 Bd7 12. b3 Nh5 13. Be3 Ne5 14. Qd2 Ng4 15. Rac1 Nxe3 16. Qxe3 Qa5 17. Rc2 {Rybka suggests 17.cxb4!? Rxb4 18.Bf3 =/+} 17... Bxa4 18. bxa4 bxc3 19. d4 Qxa4 20. Qxc3 cxd4 21. Qd3 Rfc8 22. Rfc1 Rxc2 23. Qxc2?? {better was 23.Rxc2, but the game is over anyway} 23... Qxc2 24. Rxc2 d3 0-1

Given the ratings gulf, I approached this game as merely a learning exercise. Faced with the Sicilian, in which I have little OTB experience as it is practised by only one other HICC member (that I know of), I opted for the closed rather than open - merely because I knew more of the main line. Unfortunately, I didn't know anything of the line beyond 6.b5, and the text 7.Nge2 ceded the initiative.

After this I was on the back foot, and it just went downhill from there. Strangely, I saw the 24...d3 pawn fork, considered another line, rejected it and came back to Qxc2 and forgot about said pawn fork :wall: Neil seemed to think it was drawish after 23.Rxb2, but knowing my endgame technique I doubt he would've had much difficulty in breaking through and converting the win.

Aaron Guthrie
29-05-2007, 08:49 AM
Unfortunately, I didn't know anything of the line beyond 6.b5, and the text 7.Nge2 ceded the initiative.Or did it... ;) 8.Nd5!? Bxb2 9.Bxc5 d6 10.Be3 e6 11.Qb1!

Southpaw Jim
29-05-2007, 08:55 AM
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f209/eurotrashbag/070528crosstable.jpg

Capablanca-Fan
29-05-2007, 09:19 AM
Event: Club champs 2007
White: Abbott, James
Black: Markovitz, Neil
Result: 0-1
ECO: B24

1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 g6 3. d3 Bg7 4. g3 Nc6 5. Bg2 Rb8 6. Be3 b5 7. Nge2 b4


Probably should take on c5. In the game continuation, the N was driven off-side for no compensation. Would be better to leave a square on e2 or d1 for retreat.


8. Na4 d6 9. c3 {better was 9.a3!?} 9... Nf6 10. O-O O-O 11. Bf4

A lot of moves with the B, which ended up being exchanged. This left the Bg7 with no opposite number.

Southpaw Jim
05-06-2007, 01:50 PM
Thanks Jono.

Any thoughts (Jono or anyone else who cares to comment) on who's better here positionally (my inexpert opinion is that both sides have some decent tactical resources). From last night's shocker (http://www.chesschat.org/showthread.php?t=5663&page=4) (post #59), had I played the correct move (21...Ne5) instead of the clanger 21...Ne4 (sad thing is I had considered Ne5 :( ):

r5k1/p1R2pbp/1p2qnp1/3pn3/1P6/N2Q2P1/P2BPPBP/6K1 b - - 6 21

I felt a bit under the pump here, but Fritz says only +0.38 (9 ply depth).

Re last nights results, I believe the correct results are:

Kruup-Abbott 1-0
Markovitz-Midson 1-0
Chadwick-Richards 1-0

Although Kevin will hopefully correct me if I've got any wrong.

MichaelBaron
05-06-2007, 02:49 PM
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f209/eurotrashbag/070528crosstable.jpg

the most colourful cross-table i have seen in a long time :clap:

Capablanca-Fan
05-06-2007, 03:29 PM
Thanks Jono.

Any thoughts (Jono or anyone else who cares to comment) on who's better here positionally (my inexpert opinion is that both sides have some decent tactical resources). From last night's shocker (http://www.chesschat.org/showthread.php?t=5663&page=4) (post #59), had I played the correct move (21...Ne5) instead of the clanger 21...Ne4 (sad thing is I had considered Ne5 :( ):

r5k1/p1R2pbp/1p2qnp1/3pn3/1P6/N2Q2P1/P2BPPBP/6K1 b - - 6 21

I felt a bit under the pump here, but Fritz says only +0.38 (9 ply depth).
You're welcome. I think White is much better here, e.g. Qa6, and Black's Q-side pawns will miss the light-squared B that would guard such a square. White's R is very strong, controlling the open file and 7th rank. White's B pair should protect against Black's counterplay, which is hindered since his own R has no open file. The IQP doesn't seem to be much of a problem, at least for now.

Of course Black can still fight, unlike after the game continuation. :(

Kruupy
05-06-2007, 05:44 PM
Hi Eurotrash and all.

I really feel positionally this position is in favour for white for all the reasons illustrated by Jono.

One interesting thing I think might be nice to point out is that I had actually planed on attempting to play a more closed position for this opening, however as soon as I had chances of an endgame with the bishop pair I immediately changed my plans and attempted to break open the position which I think was a good idea. I was not very impressed with na3 as i think that this was the worst and most useless move I made all game.

I had thought about 21...ne5 during the game but im not so sure it works after 22. Qa6, again as jono said. My immediate analysis of the resolving position after Qa6 is blacks bishop is a bit traped in by the two knights and has no immediate threats without first moving those knight (odviously). the knight on f6 is clearly busy defending d5 and cannot move, once again blocking in the bishop, and the e5 knight has a limited amount of what I thought to be useful squares in which to move to. I took a look at the following line after 21...ne5 22.Qa6 nc6 23.e3 looking promising for white I think as long as I haven't missed anything.

Overall I think it was a great game played by both players, and I am very relieved to have finally played an endgame that I haven't butchered!

Kruupy.

Aaron Guthrie
05-06-2007, 05:59 PM
Maybe after Qa6 Black can play Rd8, letting the pawn go, following up with d4. That might make things a bit messy.

Kevin Bonham
05-06-2007, 07:18 PM
I took a look at the following line after 21...ne5 22.Qa6 nc6 23.e3 looking promising for white I think as long as I haven't missed anything.

Better still for White, 22...Nc6 loses a piece after 23.Qb7 so that defence is not playable. Black will have to give up the pawn and look for counterplay as Mangafranga suggests. There probably won't be that much of it if White is accurate, but if White is sloppy, who knows?

Black can also try 21...Re8, counterattacking White's e-pawn but if White just goes ahead and takes on a7 anyway White will have a dangerous passed pawn in the endgame.

Or Black could play 21...a6. White's still better though - rook on the seventh, the two bishops, Black's isolated pawn.

I had a brief look at the game around this stage and my impression was it had been close to that point but White was clearly on top with the rook on the 7th.

Southpaw Jim
05-06-2007, 09:42 PM
After 22.Qa6, what price 22...Ne4? These days I'm trying to avoid passive defence..

Capablanca-Fan
06-06-2007, 12:51 AM
After 22.Qa6, what price 22...Ne4? These days I'm trying to avoid passive defence..

And I agree with you. In this position, it would be too late anyway. 22... Ne4 seems best, and White should probably retreat with Be1 and ask how Black intends to break through when his R isn't playing. The N on a3 is White's only poorly placed piece, but Black can still fight on.

Kevin Bonham
06-06-2007, 12:59 AM
In this position, it would be too late anyway. 22... Ne4 seems best, and White should probably retreat with Be1 and ask how Black intends to break through when his R isn't playing.

I agree with this. Also 23.Be1 isn't the easiest move for White to find if not thinking defensively, and against anything else but Be1 Black could find some more serious compensation for the pawn.

ER
07-06-2007, 04:12 PM
any updates for HCC please?
Cheers and good luck!

Igor_Goldenberg
07-06-2007, 04:26 PM
I agree with this. Also 23.Be1 isn't the easiest move for White to find if not thinking defensively, and against anything else but Be1 Black could find some more serious compensation for the pawn.
Like Nf2 in some variations (followed by Ng4+, Bd4 and/or Qf6)

Kevin Bonham
07-06-2007, 05:24 PM
any updates for HCC please?
Cheers and good luck!

Monday's results are at the bottom of Eurotrash's post above. Only 3 games played on Monday.

Club will be open this coming Monday despite it being a long weekend and various HICC players being likely to be chesslagged from Burnie.

Southpaw Jim
12-06-2007, 10:32 AM
Quiet night last night, following the Open in Burnie.

Rust - Abbott 0-1
Slidziunas - Bettiol 1-0

Not yet sure of the result of Sheerwater - Chadwick.

Kevin Bonham
12-06-2007, 06:19 PM
Not yet sure of the result of Sheerwater - Chadwick.

Chadwick won, eventually. He was under pressure for a lot of the game but got out of it and was better (but probably not winning) when Henry walked into a tactic (of the pawn-forks-king-and-rook, king-takes-pawn, knight-forks-king-and-rook variety) and had no chance from there.

Kruupy
12-06-2007, 07:09 PM
hi all,

I am very interested to hear about chadwick's win on monday - if anyone has the game could they please post it?

Thanks all!
From Kruupy.

Southpaw Jim
13-06-2007, 01:28 PM
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f209/eurotrashbag/crosstable070611.jpg

Kevin Bonham
19-06-2007, 12:13 AM
Ivkovic 0-1 Markovitz
Didn't see much of this but it ended with white getting crunched by double rooks down the h-file.
Bonham 1-0 Martin
White won a pawn after an inaccurate move in a sharp position, but the ending was tricky and at one point White made a very silly mistake which should have allowed Black to recover the pawn within a few moves. Black surprisingly missed it and white had no further problems.
Richards 0-1 Cohen
White lost some pawns fairly early, finished up in a rook ending with drawing chances but wasn't able to find the most testing moves.
Sheerwater 1-0 Bettiol
White got an unstoppable central pawn roll.
Midson 0-1 Kruup
White appeared to be on top (though it may not have been quite so simple!) but made a number of loose moves in quick succession and ran into a massive counter-punch, losing his queen for a piece.

santeb72
19-06-2007, 01:23 AM
Last game of the Tournament for me. Had development but just couldn’t get an attack going. Was 2 pawns down midgame and was in trouble.
My opponent was more interested in the game on the table next to us, and was actually writing down their games moves as well. Which may explain how I was allowed to actually get a sniff of getting a draw.


I was very shocked when I put this game in Fritz tonight and showed that I missed the draw. arrrrrr:wall:

A 3 rep opportunity

38...Qd1+ 39 Qg1 Qd5+ 40 Qg2 Qd1+ =

However was not to be and soon the central pawns had too much power.

[Event "Hobart Chess Club Mar 07 90 min 10 sec"]
[White "Sheerwater, Henry"]
[Black "Bettiol, Sante"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1615"]
[BlackElo "1375"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Nf6 3. c4 Bf5 4. d3 c6 5. Qa4 Bd7 6. dxc6 Nxc6 7. Qd1 e5 8.
Nf3 Bc5 9. Be2 O-O 10. O-O h6 11. Be3 Bd6 12. Nc3 a6 13. Nd2 Qc7 14. c5 Be7 15.
Nce4 Rad8 16. Qb1 Nxe4 17. dxe4 Nd4 18. Bxd4 exd4 19. b4 Bf6 20. Bd3 Qf4 21.
Qc1 Rfe8 22. Nc4 Qc7 23. f4 Kh8 24. Nd6 Rf8 25. e5 Be7 26. Qc4 Be6 27. Qxd4 f6
28. Qe4 f5 29. Qf3 Rb8 30. a4 Bd7 31. Rac1 Bc6 32. Qh3 Bxd6 33. cxd6 Qb6+ 34.
Kh1 Qxb4 35. Rc4 Qd2 36. Rfc1 Bxg2+ 37. Qxg2 Qxd3 38. R1c3 Qb1+ 39. Qg1 Qxg1+
40. Kxg1 Rfe8 41. Rc7 Rbd8 42. Rd3 Kg8 43. d7 Rf8 44. e6 Rf6 45. Re3 Rxe6 46.
Rxe6 Kf7 47. Rd6 Ke7 48. Rd3 b5 49. axb5 axb5 50. Rc8 b4 51. Rxd8 Kxd8 52. Kf2
b3 53. Ke3 1-0

Capablanca-Fan
19-06-2007, 04:01 AM
[Event "Hobart Chess Club Mar 07 90 min 10 sec"]
[White "Sheerwater, Henry"]
[Black "Bettiol, Sante"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1615"]
[BlackElo "1375"]
1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Nf6 3. c4 Bf5

This is dubious. c6 is normal, e6 is a tricky but probably unsound gambit, and another idea is Bg4, f3 Bg4 where White's "gain of tempo" f3 is a hindrance.


4. d3 c6 5. Qa4 Bd7

Strange moves. White loses a tempo with the Q, but Black also misplaces the B, which needs to move off the d-file, e.g. back to f5.


6. dxc6 Nxc6 7. Qd1 e5 8. Nf3 Bc5 9. Be2 O-O 10. O-O h6 11. Be3 Bd6

Probably worth trying ...Bxe3, fxe3 e4 to leave White with a weak Pe3.


12. Nc3 a6 13. Nd2 Qc7 14. c5 Be7 15. Nce4 Rad8 16. Qb1 Nxe4

Here, ... Nd5 avoids straightening White's pawns, and keeps more pieces on the board for counterplay, e.g. ...f5.

Kevin Bonham
19-06-2007, 11:26 PM
My game against Martin, in which Janice put up a very good fight before going astray in the ending and I repeatedly tried to draw a good position to no avail; some of the sidelines are quite interesting.



bonham - martin [C07]

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.Ngf3 Nc6 5.exd5 Qxd5 6.Bc4 Qd7 7.dxc5 Bxc5 8.0-0 Nf6 9.Qe2 0-0 10.Nb3 Bb6 11.Bg5 Nd5 12.Rad1 f6 13.Bh4 This gets rather out of play on this square 13...Rd8 14.Bb5?! Qf7 [14...Nf4! 15.Qe1 Qxd1 16.Qxd1 Rxd1 17.Rxd1 e5 is fine for black] 15.Bxc6 bxc6 16.c4 Ba6! 17.Qe4 Ne7 18.Rfe1 Rxd1 [18...e5! 19.c5 Bc7 and white's pieces look rather clumsy.] 19.Rxd1 Bb7 [Again 19...e5! ] 20.c5! Rd8! [20...Bc7?? 21.Rd7+-] 21.Re1 I considered this for a long time trying to find something better, without success. At the time I thought this would win me a pawn but lead to an ending that was difficult to win. Actually it could have been trickier than that. 21...Bc7 22.Qxe6 Qxe6 23.Rxe6 Rd1+ [Missing 23...Be5! trapping the rook and renewing the back rank threat, after which White can only give up the exchange for a pawn - 24.g3 (24.Kf1 Ng6 25.Bg3 Kf7 26.Rxe5 fxe5 27.Nxe5+ Nxe5 28.Bxe5 Ba6+ looks better for black) 24...Rd1+ 25.Kg2 Kf7 26.Rxe7+ Kxe7 27.Nxe5 g5! 28.Bxg5 fxg5 29.Na5 Ba8 and white will create a passed c-pawn but it is not an easy position to play] 24.Re1 Rxe1+ 25.Nxe1 Be5 26.Nd3 Bc7 27.Bg3 Bd8 28.Nf4 Kf7 29.Nd4 Bc8 30.Nd3 Bd7 31.Nb4 a5 32.Nbc2 Nf5 33.Nxf5 Bxf5 34.Nd4 Bd7 35.b3? White has been doing OK in this ending up until now but this is an extremely careless move. 35...Be7 36.Bd6 g6? [I was relieved when black missed the obvious 36...Bxd6 37.cxd6 c5 and the king soon recovers the pawn, when I must hope I can outplay the bishop with my knight although having my q-side pawns on white squares doesn't offer much hope.] 37.Bxe7 Kxe7 This shouldn't be too hard to win from here and black's play goes downhill quickly. 38.Kf1 f5 39.f4 h6 40.h4 Kf6 41.Ke2 g5 42.hxg5+ hxg5 43.g3 g4 44.Ke3 Ke7 45.Nc2 Ke6 46.Kd4 Bc8 47.Na3 Ba6 48.Nc4 Bxc4 Obviously loses but black is totally lost anyway. 49.Kxc4 Kd7 50.a3 Kc7 51.b4 axb4 52.axb4 Kb7 53.b5 Kc7 54.b6+ Kb7 55.Kd4 1-0

Kevin Bonham
26-06-2007, 12:23 AM
Abbott 0-1 Richards
Close game until an unsound attempt to win by putting a knight en prise - see "shockers" thread.
Knight 1-0 Rust
Knight won a piece around move 15 I think.
Sheerwater 0-1 Bonham
Interesting game but with scrappy opening followed by mistakes by both sides and crowned by yet another Bonham swindle from a lost position.



Sheerwater - Bonham [D35]

1.d4 e6 2.c4 Nf6 3.Nc3 d5 4.Bf4 Bd6 5.Bg5 c6 6.e4 dxe4 7.Qc2 Be7 8.0-0-0 Nbd7 9.h4 b6 10.Nh3 Bb7 11.Nxe4 h6 12.Nxf6+ Bxf6 13.Bxf6 Nxf6 14.c5 Nd5 15.g3 bxc5 16.Qxc5 Qb6 17.Rd3 Nb4? 18.Ra3? [18.Rb3 wins a piece for two pawns, eg 18...Nxa2+ 19.Kc2! I hadn't seen this obvious problem - the knight is trapped. 19...Qxc5+ 20.dxc5 0-0-0 21.Kb1 Rd5 22.Kxa2 Rxc5] 18...Na6? [18...Ba6 is OK] 19.Qe5 0-0? [19...c5 20.Qxg7 Rf8 21.d5 Nb4 22.Bc4 Bxd5 23.Bxd5 Nxd5 24.Qxh6±] 20.Rb3 Nb4 21.Kb1?? From a won position to a lost one [21.Qc5!+- winning a piece for one pawn.] 21...Rfd8 22.a3 c5! White has failed to extinguish all counterplay so this is the Swindle. 23.f3 Bd5 24.dxc5 It looks like the answer, but white hasn't seen 24...Bxb3! 25.Be2 Qa5 26.Qc3 Bc2+ 27.Ka1 Rab8 28.Rc1 Bh7 29.Nf4 Nc6 30.b4 Nxb4 "I'm baaaaack!" said the little black knight. "You should have killed me when you had the chance." 0-1

Capablanca-Fan
26-06-2007, 12:47 PM
Sheerwater 0-1 Bonham
Interesting game but with scrappy opening followed by mistakes by both sides and crowned by yet another Bonham swindle from a lost position.
All the same, White's opening was slack. Black might have tried to make White work harder to recover the Pe4, and get in ...c5 before White did. 7... Nbd7 looks reasonable, and if 8 Nxe4 Bb4+. Or 13... Qxf6 followed by c5, and White's K looks weaker than Blacks, and the minor pieces are better too.

Southpaw Jim
02-07-2007, 10:57 PM
Finally, late in the tournament, I swindle a point! I was beginning to doubt I'd improved over last year..

Scrappy, with blunders and missed opportunities on both sides. Fortunately I was the second last to blunder.

Event: Club champs 2007
White: Abbott, James
Black: Martin, Janice
Result: 1-0

1. e4 e6 2. d3 d5 3. Nd2 Nc6 4. Ngf3 d4 {at this stage I figured this had to be a bit ambitious, so I wasn't too worried}5. g3 e5 6. Nc4 Bd6 7. c3 Bg4 8. Be2 Nf6 9. Qa4 {missed an opportunity to win a pawn here} 9...O-O 10. Nxd6 cxd6 11. cxd4 Bxf3 12. Bxf3 Nxd4 13. Bg2 Qc7 14. Qc4 {this was just plain dumb, hadn't noticed the N fork} 14... Qxc4 15. dxc4 Nc2+ 16. Kd2 Nxa1 17. b3 Nd7 18. Ba3 Nxb3+ 19. axb3 Nc5 20. Kc3 Rfd8 21. Rd1 b6 22. Rd5 Kf8 23. f3 Ke7 24. Bh3 Ne6 25. Bb4 {here I missed another pawn, didn't notice that black's D pawn was pinned} 25...Nd4 26. f4 {again, missing the pawn!} 26...f6 27. fxe5 Nc6 28. Bxd6+ Rxd6 29. exd6+ {not sure what happened with this exchange, think Janice miscounted something} 29...Kf7 30. Bd7 {inaccurate and wastes time} 30...Ne5 31. Bf5 Rd8 32. b4 g6 33. Bh3 g5 34. Bf1 Ke6 35. c5 bxc5 36. bxc5 Nc6 37. Bh3+ {better was Bb5, winning the exchange, but I doubt I would've seen the correct moves to do it - 37.Bb5 Ne5 38.d7 Rxd7 39.Bxd7 Nxd7} 37...Kf7 38. Bf5 h6 39. g4 Rb8 40. Rd2 {here, Rybka sees Bd7 followed by sac'ing R for N, regaining the R to be B up with a strong passed pawn} 40..a5 41. Rb2 Ke8 42. Rxb8+ Nxb8 43. Kb3 Kd8 44. Ka4 Nc6 45. Kb5 Ke8 {not sure what happened here, but it's pretty much over anyway} 46. Kxc6 a4 47. Be6 1-0

Phew :)

Kevin Bonham
02-07-2007, 11:31 PM
Cohen 1-0 Ivkovic
This got swapped off into a N for B ending where white's knight was definitely better, but Black made a disastrous pawn move (wrong in about four different ways!) resulting in a rapid and decisive king invasion.
Abbott 1-0 Martin
Martin self-swindled in a winning position with an intermediate move gone horribly wrong and then various other mistakes (see above).
Knight 1-0 Slidziunas
Symmetrical English where play was swapped off down to a queen ending. I didn't see how or why the queens were swapped but suddenly white had a won pure pawn ending.
Richards 1-0 Midson
Playing his beloved Morra, Richards had some initiative on the kingside and played a very aggressive rook sacrifice that probably could have been safely accepted with careful play. After Black declined it White became too strong on the kingside and eventually mated on g2.

Southpaw Jim
03-07-2007, 08:55 AM
Bonham has last week moved up to join Chadwick at equal 2nd, with Knight and Slidziunas on equal 4th. Markovitz still in the lead although not completely assured of outright 1st, yet to play Chadwick and Slidziunas amongst others.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f209/eurotrashbag/crosstable070702.jpg

peter_knight
03-07-2007, 09:47 AM
Some of the scores seem a bit wrong.

Southpaw Jim
03-07-2007, 11:39 AM
Thanks Peter, should be fixed now (some cell references were one column out for some reason).

Southpaw Jim
09-07-2007, 10:39 PM
As the tournament dwindles toward the end, I believe that there were only 2 tournament games tonight (although there were plenty of friendlies).

I believe Richards-Kruup ended 0-1, and as seen below, Ivkovic-Abbott ended in a draw.

Event: Club champs 2007
White: Ivkovic, Milutin
Black: Abbott, James
Result: 1/2-1/2
TimeControl: 90+10

1. b4 Nf6 2. Bb2 d5 3. e3 e6 4. a3 g6 5. Nf3 Bg7 6. Be2 a6 7. O-O Nc6 8. c4 O-O 9. c5 Bd7 10. h3 b5 11. Nd4 Nxd4 12. Bxd4 c6 13. Nc3 Qc7 14. f4 Ne8 15. Bxg7 Nxg7 16. d4 f6 17. e4 a5 18. Qd2 axb4 19. axb4 Rxa1 20. Rxa1 Qb7 21. Bf3 f5 22. exd5 exd5 23. Ne2 Ne6 24. Nc1 Ra8 25. Rb1 Qb8 26. Ne2 Ra4 27. h4 Qa8 28. Kh2 h6 29. g3 Qd8 30. Kg2 g5 31. hxg5 hxg5 32. fxg5 Nxg5 33. Bh5 Ne4 34. Qh6 Qf8 35. Qg6+ Qg7 36. Nf4 Qxg6 37. Bxg6 Ra2+ 38. Kh3 Kg7 {fortunately for my opponent, I miss mate in 4 here: 38...Ng5+ 39. Kh4 Nf3+ 40.Kh5 Rh2+ 41.Nh3 Rxh3# - I saw there was a potential mate developing, but for some reason I thought it necessary to cover g5 first with my K to prevent an escape, forgetting that Nf3 prevented it anyway :/ ah well...} 39. Bh5 Kf6 40. Be2 Kg5 41. Kg2 Rd2 42. Rh1 Rxd4 43. Rh5+ Kf6 44. Rh6+ Kg7 45. Rg6+ Kf7 46. Bh5 Nf6 47. Rh6+ Kg7 48. Rg6+ Kf7 {draw offered by me here, partly from fatigue, and partly because I knew I'd probably get myself into time trouble and fluff a drawn position into a lost one} 1/2-1/2

<sigh> :doh: at least I got away with half a point :(

Kevin Bonham
09-07-2007, 11:43 PM
It was unlucky that you missed the #4 but also lucky that he missed a win with 45.Rxc6! which is the exactly the sort of sneaky thing he would normally jump all over.

Also played tonight was Bonham 1-0 Cohen which was pretty sharp and interesting but Bonham was just getting on top with two pieces for rook and pawn when Cohen gave up his queen for a mate that wasn't, so that was the end of that.

Capablanca-Fan
09-07-2007, 11:53 PM
Chadwick v Markovitz is a key game to be played.

Kevin Bonham
10-07-2007, 01:39 AM
I believe Richards-Kruup ended 0-1,

Other way around. Rather sharp finish after Richards got his usual kingside attack going.

Southpaw Jim
10-07-2007, 09:17 AM
Out of interest, what do people think of the final position in the game above? Drawn? Or winning for someone?

8/3b1k2/2p2nR1/1pPp1p1B/1P1r1N2/6P1/6K1/8 w - - 1 1

Desmond
10-07-2007, 09:42 AM
Out of interest, what do people think of the final position in the game above? Drawn? Or winning for someone?I would have thought black would win here without too much difficulty.

Southpaw Jim
10-07-2007, 10:57 AM
:( yeah, I thought so too, notwithstanding the computer's "0.00" evaluation. Was kicking myself all the way home, no idea why I didn't play on for a bit longer to see what happened.. :wall:

Aaron Guthrie
10-07-2007, 01:34 PM
:( yeah, I thought so too, notwithstanding the computer's "0.00" evaluation. Was kicking myself all the way home, no idea why I didn't play on for a bit longer to see what happened.. :wall:But the computer only gives 0.00 after the first repetition, right?

Southpaw Jim
10-07-2007, 01:55 PM
It gives 0.00 after the last 2 moves I think - but I'm aware that there's a bug in the way Fritz displays its evaluations where triple rep is possible - thus I suspect that the 0.00 is only flagging that triple rep is possible. I reckon if I put it on infinite analysis and play - say - 49.Rh6+ Nxh5 etc, then it'll immediately give a different evaluation (I'll do this when I get home tonight). Pocket Fritz, while not as strong, is giving evaluations of around -3.5 at a depth of 7-8 ply.

Bloody hell. I shouldn't panic, just take a deep breath and actually look at the board :doh: my endgame technique is very basic and I was primarily worried that Milutin (rated about 450pts higher than me, although my rating is a little out of date) would manage to out-manoeuver me.

Desmond
10-07-2007, 02:33 PM
Bloody hell. I shouldn't panic, just take a deep breath and actually look at the board :doh: Yes, but as you already know, this is easier said than done. It is one thing to come to a position cold and evaluate it, and quite another to set aside all the previous mistakes, tournament standings, previous rounds, time trouble, and a plethora of other distractions that always come to mind at the worst moments. Don't beat yourself up about it too much.


my endgame technique is very basic and I was primarily worried that Milutin (rated about 450pts higher than me, although my rating is a little out of date) would manage to out-manoeuver me.Yeah, you could add "rating differentials" to my list of distractions above. Looks like the black passed d- and (soon to be) b-pawns will decide the game, but white might just be able to harass the black king and bishop enough to pick up a piece or something like that.

Aaron Guthrie
10-07-2007, 03:23 PM
It gives 0.00 after the last 2 moves I think - but I'm aware that there's a bug in the way Fritz displays its evaluations where triple rep is possible - thus I suspect that the 0.00 is only flagging that triple rep is
possible.My understanding is that the computers generally are programmed to use the reasoning of- if a move was played in a given position then it is the best move in that position- or something close to that anyway. This is quite reasonable if the computer played that move, but people are often unsatisfied with this reasoning if the computer is just analysing a game. There was a good thread on this in another forum with some programmers discussing the reasoning behind this. As linked to in http://www.chesschat.org/showthread.php?t=5491 it seems to be gone, but maybe it is archived somewhere.
I reckon if I put it on infinite analysis and play - say - 49.Rh6+ Nxh5 etc, then it'll immediately give a different evaluation (I'll do this when I get home tonight). Pocket Fritz, while not as strong, is giving evaluations of around -3.5 at a depth of 7-8 ply.If you let it think on move 47 I reckon it will give a different evaluation.

santeb72
10-07-2007, 10:16 PM
whats the latest ladder positions?

Capablanca-Fan
11-07-2007, 05:44 PM
Bloody hell. I shouldn't panic, just take a deep breath and actually look at the board :doh: my endgame technique is very basic and I was primarily worried that Milutin (rated about 450pts higher than me, although my rating is a little out of date) would manage to out-manoeuver me.
They talk about playing the board rather than the man. But I know it's easier said than done: I may well have taken a draw against someone who outrated me by that much (i.e. top ~20 in the world).

Southpaw Jim
13-07-2007, 08:26 AM
Crosstable:
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f209/eurotrashbag/crosstable070709.jpg

Kevin Bonham
17-07-2007, 12:50 AM
Rust 0-1 Sheerwater
Abbott 0-1 Midson
Markovitz 1-0 Richards
Knight 1-0 Sheerwater
Markovitz 1-0 Rust

Charles Chadwick has gone overseas and will miss his remaining two games, which means that Markovitz is guaranteed outright first with a 1.5 point lead and only Slidziunas to play.

One Hour tournament (something of a misnomer as the hour now comes with an increment!) will start on the 30th of July as some players have finished the club champs. Club champs will be wrapped up on 27th of August.

Southpaw Jim
17-07-2007, 08:38 AM
Updated crosstable:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f209/eurotrashbag/crosstable070716.jpg

Kevin Bonham
31-07-2007, 12:35 AM
Last week while I was away Midson defeated Rust in the Club Champs. This week:

Club Champs
Knight 1-0 Kruup (Knight won a KRP vs KR ending, I'm not sure if it was won by force or not)
Slidziunas 1-0 Cohen in 88 moves

One Hour Tournament, first night:
Markovitz draw Bonham
Midson 1-0 Martin (Midson was at one stage down to 50 seconds)
Sheerwater 1-0 Juha Pasanen (UNR)
Ivkovic is also an entrant and there will be many more over coming weeks I expect.

Markovitz-Bonham

1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 c6 3.g3 g6 4.Bg2 Bg7 5.0-0 0-0 6.Nc3 d5 7.cxd5 cxd5 8.d4 Nc6 9.Ne5 Bf5 10.Nxc6 bxc6 11.Na4 Nd7 12.Bf4 Qa5 13.Rc1 Nb6 14.Nxb6 Qxb6 15.Qa4 Qxd4 16.Qxc6 Qxb2 17.Qxd5 Rad8 18.Qa5 Qxe2 19.Rfe1 Qb2 20.Be3 Be6 21.Qxa7 Qxa2 22.Qxe7 1/2-1/2

Kevin Bonham
06-08-2007, 11:17 PM
Club Champs

Slidziunas draw Bonham
Midson 0-1 Ivkovic
Cohen 1-0 Rust

One Hour Tournament
James Abbott and Andrew Kruup have entered so the field is now up to nine.
Abbott 0-1 Markovitz
Pasanen 0-1 Kruup

Slidziunas-Bonham

1.Nf3 Nf6 2.g3 d5 3.Bg2 c6 4.0–0 Nbd7 5.d3 e5 6.c4 Bd6 7.a3 0–0 8.b3 Re8 9.Bb2 b5 10.Nbd2 Bb7 11.b4 a5 12.c5 Bc7 13.e3 axb4 14.axb4 Qe7 15.e4 Rxa1 16.Bxa1 dxe4 17.dxe4 Nf8 18.Qc2 Ra8 19.Bc3 N6d7 20.Ra1 Qe8 21.Qb2 f6 22.Nh4 Rxa1+ 23.Qxa1 Qa8 24.Qxa8 Bxa8 25.Nf5 Kf7 26.Kf1 Nb8 27.Bh3 Ne6 28.Nb3 Ng5 29.Bg2 g6 30.Ne3 Bb7 31.h4 Ne6 32.Bh3 Bc8 33.f3 Bd7 34.Bg2 Ng7 35.Kf2 Be6 36.Nd2 Na6 37.Bf1 Ke7 38.Bd3 Bf7 39.Bc2 Ne6 40.Bb3 Nd4 41.Bxf7 Kxf7 42.g4 Ne6 43.Ng2 Nf4 44.Nxf4 exf4 45.Nb3 Be5 46.Be1 Ke6 47.Ke2 Bb2 48.Kd3 Ba3 49.Nd4+ Kd7 50.Nc2 Bb2 51.Bc3 Bxc3 52.Kxc3 Nc7 53.Nd4 Ne8 54.Ne2 g5 55.h5 Nc7 56.Nd4 Na6 57.Nb3 1/2-1/2

Bonham saw but didn't play 33...Nxc5! because he was worried about getting the knight trapped after 34.Bxf7 Kxf7 35.Nc2 and didn't realise it's very easy to get it out simply by bringing the king to d6 and playing c5. :rolleyes:

In return it looks like 54.g5 could have been a win for Slidziunas although this comment is based only on a rather brief look at this endgame. After 54...fxg5 55.hxg5 Nc7 gets zugzwanged and ...Ng7 looks very ugly too.

There are three weeks remaining in the club champs and only about six games left to play that are expected to actually get played.

Kevin Bonham
07-08-2007, 08:54 PM
John has rescued Black's position from 54.g5 by finding the idea 54.g5 fxg5 55.hxg5 Nc7 56.Kc2 (for example) Ke8! and if white takes the pawn black can round up a pawn of his own via ...Ne6 (there are some very messy lines here but at present I can't find a forced win), while if white doesn't Black can play ...Na6, so it now looks like Black is not zugzwanged after all.

Rincewind
07-08-2007, 11:11 PM
Good to hear about John doing well (I assume a draw vs Bonham is a positive result for him rating-wise).

I met him the inaugural Common Man tourney and he left a impression on me as a truly nice guy and gentleman of the game. :clap:

Kevin Bonham
13-08-2007, 11:37 PM
He's doing well again this week!

Club Champs
Slidziunas draw Markovitz
Rather sharp Symmetrical English by transposition which finished up with queens and c-pawns off the board so a draw was agreed.
Midson 0-1 Knight
Knight was a passed pawn up in an OCB ending and Midson made an error in time trouble losing all saving chances.

Markovitz's TPR vs rated opponents was 2089 so he will most likely get a start ACF rating in that area. Had he defeated Slidziunas it would have been 2240.

One Hour Tournament
Kruup 1-0 Martin
Back-rank mate blunder, move 15 (Black was a pawn up at the time)
Ivkovic draw Sheerwater
Ivkovic won a pawn but Sheerwater then won a piece with all kinds of nasty crosspins. At one stage Ivkovic was a piece and two pawns down but kept trying to swindle a draw by perpetual check with his queen. Sheerwater managed, after giving back a piece, to swap off the queens, but then in a KNPP vs KB ending short of time, walked into a stalemate swindle.

A very strange casual game has been posted over here (http://chesschat.org/showthread.php?p=154929)

Carl Gorka
15-08-2007, 07:13 PM
I'll be in Tassie early October by the look of things, if anybody fancies some pommie bashing....in chess terms:)

Kevin Bonham
20-08-2007, 11:41 PM
I'll be in Tassie early October by the look of things, if anybody fancies some pommie bashing....in chess terms:)

You'd be most welcome to drop in if here on a Monday night.

Tonight's results

Club Champs
Slidziunas 1-0 Martin
Martin 0-1 Knight
Cohen 1-0 Midson

Rust's games with Slidziunas and Richards are the only unplayed games with any chance of being played. Knight has finished the tournament in second, Slidziunas will tie Bonham for third if he beats Rust (or wins on forfeit), and Cohen has finished sixth on a good score of 8.5.

One Hour
Ivkovic 0-1 Bonham
Richards 0-1 Kruup

Kruupy
21-08-2007, 12:00 AM
Hi all,

a very enjoyable game played tonight, I wasn't really expecting the Morra and so
was a little bit unprepared.

Event: rated standard match
Site: HICC
Date: ????.??.??
Round: ?
White: Richards
Black: Kruup
Result: 0-1
WhiteElo: 0
BlackElo: 0
ECO: B21
TimeControl: 3600+10

1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. c3 dxc3 4. Nxc3 Nc6 5. Nf3 e6 6. a3 Nge7 7. b4 a6 8.
Bb2 d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Bd3 Nf4 11. Bf1 Qxd1+ 12. Rxd1 Be7 13. g3 Ng6 14. Bd3
Nge5 15. Be4 Nc4 16. Bxc6+ bxc6 17. Bc1 Bb7 18. O-O c5 19. Nd2 Nxd2 20. Rxd2
cxb4 21. axb4 Bxb4 22. Bb2 Ke7 23. Rc1 Rac8 24. Rdc2 Rhd8 25. Na4 Rxc2 0-1

Kevin Bonham
21-08-2007, 09:52 PM
Hi all,

a very enjoyable game played tonight, I wasn't really expecting the Morra and so
was a little bit unprepared.

I'm no expert in the Morra (which Graham has embarrassed several much higher-rated players with) but it looks to me like you had no real problems with it there and played very well. You had things well under control even before White's error at the end.

My game has some instructive points, especially on endgames so I'll post it though I was actually not impressed with some moves I played before the N v B ending was reached.



Ivkovic - Bonham [A00]

1.b4 e5 2.Bb2 Bxb4 3.Bxe5 Nf6 4.a3 Anyone know any theory on this move? White plays it all the time. 4...Be7 5.e3 Nc6 6.Bb2 d5 7.Nf3 0-0 8.Be2 Re8 9.0-0 Bd6 10.c4 Ne5 11.cxd5 Nxd5 12.Nc3 Nb6 13.d3 c6 14.Nxe5 Bxe5 15.f4? Bxc3 16.Bxc3 Rxe3 17.Qd2 Qe8 18.Bf3 Bf5?! 19.d4 [I worried about 19.Be4 here. Black's best reply is 19...Nc4! but after 20.dxc4 Black needs to analyse lines arising from the queen or rook recapture of the bishop very carefully, as with OCBs on the board there is a risk that Black may steer this into a drawish ending.] 19...Rd3 20.Qc1 Qe3+ 21.Qxe3 Rxe3 22.Bb4 Rae8 23.Rae1 Nd7 24.Rxe3 Rxe3 25.Re1 Rxe1+ 26.Bxe1 Nf6 27.h3 I thought he had played this move because he realised that the two bishops give him drawing chances in this endgame. On the assumption that his bishop would move away I decided to play 27...Be4 intending only to grab d5 for my knight (which I don't want his white square bishop to take) and was delighted when white played 28.Kf2? which almost deserves two question marks IMO because it is so much easier to win this sort of position with N for B than with NB for BB. I regard this as a bigger error than losing the pawn earlier on. 28...Bxf3 29.Kxf3 Kf8 30.Bb4+ Ke8 31.g4 Nd5 32.Bd2 Kd7 33.Ke4 Kd6 34.g5 Another positional error - pawns on the same colour square as his bishop everywhere limiting its scope and a hole on f5 I can exploit. 34...g6 35.h4 He should have moved his f-pawn instead here but I'm confident Black is still winning. 35...Ke6 36.a4 Ne7! Here I have the idea that I can drive his king out because once I reach f5 I threaten two knight checks and he cannot cover both. 37.Bb4 Nf5 38.Be1 Nd6+ 39.Ke3 Kd5 40.Kd3 Nf5 41.Bf2 b6! Black is forced to weaken his position. 42.Kc3 Ke4 43.Kc4 Nd6+ 44.Kc3 Kxf4 45.Kd3 Kg4 46.Be1 Nf5 47.Ke4 Nxh4 48.Bd2 [Kruupy may have seen me spend a few minutes analysing at this seemingly clearly won point. What I needed to see was that 48.Bxh4 Kxh4 gives a pure pawn ending I still win because 49.Ke5 Kxg5 50.Kd6 h5 (a really cute but less efficient win is 50...f5 51.Kxc6 f4 52.d5 f3 53.d6 f2 54.d7 f1=Q 55.d8=Q+ Qf6+ 56.Qxf6+ Kxf6 57.Kb7 h5;) (however this would be a disaster for Black: 50...Kf6?? 51.Kxc6 Ke7 52.Kc7 Ke6 53.Kc6 draw) 51.Kxc6 h4 52.d5 h3 53.d6 h2 54.d7 h1=Q+ is with check winning easily.] 48...Nf3 49.Bc1 Nxg5+ 50.Ke5 Nf3+ 51.Kd6 h5 52.d5 cxd5 53.Kxd5 h4 White really should resign now if not before 54.Kc6 h3 55.Kb7 h2 56.Kxa7 h1=Q 57.Be3 Qa1 0-1

Kruupy
22-08-2007, 12:17 AM
Thank you for your complement about my game. I thought that after being a pawn up I decided to play as sound as I could not to make any tactical errors, I also had decided that the bishops would become both players main weapons after the queen exchange in such an open game, something which proved to be correct. I was very happy to have made the right judgments in a opening that I knew very little about. I was especially happy to finally win a game against Richards as I have failed twice previously in the past.

I found your game to be very instructive as you mentioned and well played, it would probably pay off for me to look a bit deeper into "The Orangutang" as it seems to be something Ivkovic has been playing lately, for some reason I still cringe when I see 4.... bxb4 5.bxe5 as it is very unnatural for me to see a b-pawn exchanged for a center pawn.

BTW, yes I did notice your pause for analysis as per annotated, the problem was that I naturally assumed it was winning rather than calculating the endgame out lol, something that is a big problem in my endgame!

Kevin Bonham
27-08-2007, 11:20 PM
Club Champs

No further games were played and event has been sent off for ratings.

One Hour Tournament
Steven Rust has joined the tournament
Pasanen 1-0 Rust
Martin 0-1 Markovitz
Sheerwater 0-1 Kruup
Bonham 1-0 Pasanen
Ivkovic 1-0 Rust

Kevin Bonham
03-09-2007, 10:16 PM
Pretty quiet night tonight probably due to the cold.

Markovitz 1-0 Kruup - despite an opening error Kruupy remains on a rather handy 4/5
Martin 1-0 Ivkovic - Ivkovic was a pawn up but lost the exchange and decided to get all the pawns on one side of the board while Martin still had two rooks. The rooks said "thanks for the open space" and soon set up an unstoppable mate.
Abbott 1-0 Richards - in a very close game Richards exchanged rooks into a lost pawn ending shortly after Abbott (who had much less time) had offered a draw.

Markovitz, Bonham now lead on 2.5/3

Southpaw Jim
03-09-2007, 11:22 PM
Event: Club 60'10"
Date: 2007.09.03
White: Abbott, James
Black: Richards, Graham
Result: 1-0
ECO: C45

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Nxd4 5. Qxd4 d6 6. Nc3 Be6 7. Bd3 Nf6 8. Bg5 Be7 9. e5 dxe5 10. Qxe5 O-O 11. Bxf6 Bxf6 12. Qe4 g6 13. O-O Bxc3 14. bxc3 Qg5 15. Qf3 Rfe8 16. Qe3 Qxe3 17. fxe3 Re7 18. c4 Rae8 19. e4 a6 20. a4 Rd8 21. Rab1 c6 22. c5 Rd4 23. Ra1 Bc4 24. Rfd1 Red7 25. Ra3 Be6 {Graham misses an opportunity for a pawn here, as did I - Rxe4} 26. h3 f5 {again, both of us miss Rxe4} 27. exf5 Bxf5 28. Kf2 Bxd3 29. Rdxd3 Rf7+ 30. Ke2 Rff4 31. Rxd4 Rxd4 32. Rd3 Re4+ 33. Kd2 Re7 34. Rd6 Kf7 35. Kc3 Ke8 {at this point Fritz evaluates at 0.00} 36. g4 {draw offered, couldn't see anything for either of us} 36... Re4 37. Rd4 Rxd4 {Game lost for black. Was very happy to see this, as I figured my extra pawn moves would generate zugzwang and allow penetration.} 38. Kxd4 Ke7 39. g5 Ke6 40. Ke4 a5 41. h4 Kd7 42. Ke5 Ke7 {draw hopefully offered by Graham} 43. c3 Kf7 44. Kd6 Kg7 45. Kc7 h6 46. Kxb7 1-0

I'm v glad I've been studying endgame lately, made it very easy to see the way forward after 37...Rxd4 :) Also v glad to have slid out of it with the point, as I knew I was slightly behind/underpressure until around move 35-36.

Basil
03-09-2007, 11:36 PM
Good work James. Pleased for you.

Kevin Bonham
03-09-2007, 11:45 PM
32.Rd3 is a very good move but I've also been looking at 32.Rb3 and it looks like black has nothing there either. I doubt now whether Black had anything after the exchange of bishops. The white doubled pawns are weak but Black has the weak b-pawn too.

Kruupy
04-09-2007, 02:45 AM
Kevin is too kind in his description of tonights so called game played by me lol. Suffice to say I completely forgot how to play! - No excuses of course but I think I was just far too tired, and extremely nervous especially after seeing the rating of my opponent....not to mention to see him enter an opening that I knew nothing or had even remotely thought about.

However, all said and done now, (all I can take from my personal game) was that at least I had a dud night against a strong player which I feel I would have had difficulty winning anyway. I must however make sure I am more prepared than last night. very embarrassing...but hopefully my anger at myself will make me work harder.

However the gem of the night was definitely James' end game against Richards....I remember wondering to my self as to the outcome of the game if the rooks had been exchanged (due to the doubled white pawns being a disadvantage - Kevin could you shed some light on this please :) ) However what was most memorable was how the doubled pawn actually acted as an advantage to white by allowing some extra waste of moves so to zugzwang the enemy black king! - KOOL! :cool: and all this time I was thinking it would be disadvantage!

Kevin Bonham
04-09-2007, 08:18 PM
However the gem of the night was definitely James' end game against Richards....I remember wondering to my self as to the outcome of the game if the rooks had been exchanged (due to the doubled white pawns being a disadvantage - Kevin could you shed some light on this please :) ) However what was most memorable was how the doubled pawn actually acted as an advantage to white by allowing some extra waste of moves so to zugzwang the enemy black king! - KOOL! :cool: and all this time I was thinking it would be disadvantage!

Black's problem is that after the exchange of rooks, White not only has more moves he can waste with his pawns, but also has superior king position, and hence it is an easy win.

Note how black has only one move he can waste on the q-side because his b-pawn is backwards meaning that only the a-pawn can move, whereas white can move the c-pawn twice.

Normally doubled pawns are a disadvantage in a pure pawn ending but in this case they don't matter.

Vlad
06-09-2007, 10:53 PM
You'd be most welcome to drop in if here on a Monday night.


I will be visiting Hobart in a couple weeks as well. Anybody interested in a simul?:)

Kruupy
06-09-2007, 10:59 PM
lol, im always up for a game! look forward to meeting you.

Kevin Bonham
10-09-2007, 11:21 PM
Sante Bettiol and Charles Chadwick have joined the tournament. Entries will probably close next week.

Richards 0-1 Martin
Midson 1-0 Ivkovic
Bonham 1-0 Kruup
Markovitz 1-0 Bettiol
Martin 1-0 Chadwick

Andrew put up a good fight in our game. If anyone is suffering severe insomnia they might find analysing 37...Nc2 a good way to use up most of the evening!

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Bb5+ Bd7 4.Bxd7+ Qxd7 5.0-0 Nc6 6.c4 g6 7.Nc3 Bg7 8.Re1 In hindsight this seems inaccurate. 8...e5 9.d3 Nge7 10.Ng5 An artificial attempt to open up the game quickly even if it means a dodgy position. 10...h6 11.Nh3 0-0 Draw offered. 12.f4 f5 13.fxe5 dxe5 14.exf5 Rxf5 15.Be3 b6 16.Ne4 Nb4 17.Nhf2 Nbc6 Black has realised he cannot actually win the d-pawn because the knight would be pinned if he did so. 18.Qd2 Raf8!? 19.Bxh6 Bxh6 20.Qxh6 Qd4 21.Qd2 Nc8 22.Rab1?! Nd6 23.Qe3? Qxe3 [Both of us missed that after 23...Nxe4! 24.Qxd4 (24.Nxe4?? Rf1+! wins queen is a tactic well worth knowing) 24...exd4 25.Nxe4 Nb4 Black not only gets back the pawn but has the better position.] 24.Rxe3 Nxe4 25.Nxe4 Rd8 26.a3 Nd4 27.Rf1 [In light of what follows 27.Ng3 is safer.] 27...Nc2 28.Rg3 Rxf1+ 29.Kxf1 Rf8+ 30.Rf3 Ne3+! 31.Kg1 Rxf3 32.gxf3 Kf7 33.Nd6+ Ke6 34.Nc8 Kf5 35.Nxa7 Nd1 36.b4 cxb4! [At the time I thought this was a mistake and 36...Nb2 was better but it is answered by 37.b5! and white wins easily] 37.axb4 Nc3? [37...Nb2! is very complex, and may draw. After 38.Nc8 Nxd3 39.b5 Kf4 the likely ultimate result with perfect play is that white will end up with king knight and h-pawn vs king and knight. Depending on exactly where the pieces are this could then be won or drawn. At the moment it looks to me like White cannot force a won KNP vs KN position at the end but it is very complex. [EDIT: No, it looks like there is a relatively "easier" win, see posts below!] Of course perfect play won't happen with both sides short of time and a 10-second increment!] 38.Nc8 b5 39.Nd6+ Ke6 40.Nxb5 Nxb5 41.cxb5 Kd6 42.Kf2 Kc7 43.Ke3 Kb6 44.Ke4 1-0

santeb72
10-09-2007, 11:35 PM
Neil had the game under control from move 18. Notes got a little muddle at the end, but got mated.

Event: Hobart Chess Club Sept 07 60 min 10 sec
Site: ?
Date: 2007.09.10
White: Markovitz, Neil
Black: Bettiol, Sante
Result: 1-0
ECO: A15
WhiteElo: 2113
BlackElo: 1499
{159MB, Fritz8.ctg, SANTEPC} 1. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 2. c4
g6 3. g3 Bg7 4. Nc3 O-O 5. Bg2 c6 6. O-O Na6 7. Rb1 Nc7 8. b4 d6 9. d3 b6 10.
Bb2 Bd7 11. Nd4 d5 12. cxd5 cxd5 13. b5 Rc8 14. Qb3 e6 15. Nc6 Bxc6 16. bxc6
Qe8 17. Ba3 Qxc6 18. Bxf8 Bxf8 19. Rfc1 Qd7 20. Nb5 Nxb5 21. Rxc8 Qxc8 22. Qxb5
Bc5 23. e3 Qb8 24. d4 Be7 25. Qc6 Kg7 26. a4 Ne8 27. a5 Nd6 28. axb6 axb6 29.
Qxb6 Qxb6 30. Rxb6 h6 31. Bf1 h5 32. h4 Nf5 33. Bd3 Nd6 34. Rc6 Kf6 35. Kf1 Kg7
36. Rc7 Kf6 37. Ke2 Ne8 38. Rc6 Ng7 39. f3 Bb4 40. e4 dxe4 41. fxe4 Ke7 42.
Rc7+ Kf8 43. Bb5 Kg8 44. Rc8+ Bf8 45. Kf3 f5 46. e5 Kf7 47. Kf4 Be7 48. Bc4 Bf8
49. Rc7+ Be7 50. Bb3 Ne8 51. Rc6 Ng7 52. Bc4 Bf8 53. d5 exd5 54. Bxd5+ Ke8 55.
Rxg6 Ke7 56. Kg5 Kd7 57. Ra6 Be7+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 58. Kg6 {
[%eval 1041,12] [%emt 0:00:02]} f4 59. Ra7+ Ke8 60. Ra8+ Bd8 61. gxf4 1-0

Southpaw Jim
10-09-2007, 11:45 PM
A good fight indeed by Kruupy!

Unfortunately couldn't make it tonight, daughter's running a temperature :(

Vlad
11-09-2007, 12:33 AM
[37...Nb2! is very complex, and may draw. After 38.Nc8 Nxd3 39.b5 Kf4 the likely ultimate result with perfect play is that white will end up with king knight and h-pawn vs king and knight. Depending on exactly where the pieces are this could then be won or drawn. At the moment it looks to me like White cannot force a won KNP vs KN position at the end but it is very complex. Of course perfect play won't happen with both sides short of time and a 10-second increment!]

Just had a quick look at your analysis with a little "fishy". After 38.Nc8 Nxd3 39.b5 Kf4 40 Kg2 white seems to be winning in all variations. I do not see KNP vs KN position coming. Everything seems to be decided much earlier.

Aaron Guthrie
11-09-2007, 01:09 AM
The idea of Ne1+ is to play nd3 again next?

Kevin Bonham
11-09-2007, 01:15 AM
Just had a quick look at your analysis with a little "fishy". After 38.Nc8 Nxd3 39.b5 Kf4 40 Kg2 white seems to be winning in all variations. I do not see KNP vs KN position coming. Everything seems to be decided much earlier.

I think you are right. I thought that driving the king away from the f-pawn led eventually to such a position, but there is, for instance, this:

40.Kg2 Ne1+ 41.Kf2 Nd3+ 42.Ke2 Nc1+ 43.Kd2 Nb3+ 44.Kc3 Nc5 45.Nxb6 Kxf3 etc and Black will not be able to push the e-pawn without White getting in to d4 whereupon white can (if needed) sac the knight for the e-pawn and win.

So it now looks like it is won.

Aaron Guthrie
11-09-2007, 02:13 AM
Spooky.

Kruupy
11-09-2007, 06:20 PM
Thanks Euro.

I felt like I wasn't playing too badly but in hindsight I really should have analyzed the position after sacking the h-pawn a lot more and figured that I could not get any advantage.....oh well I was still happy with the game.

From Kruupy.

Kevin Bonham
11-09-2007, 07:26 PM
Spooky.

Yes, it was less effort for me to simply delete one post once I realised it was nonsense. I didn't realise anyone had replied.

Kruupy
11-09-2007, 07:31 PM
Tourny on this weekend? - who is in?

From Kruupy.

Southpaw Jim
11-09-2007, 09:32 PM
I'd love to, but I'd be divorced by the Monday :(

Kevin Bonham
11-09-2007, 10:00 PM
Martin 1-0 Chadwick

Originally had this result round the wrong way in the above results. Fixed now. Janice played a very strong game.

Kruupy
12-09-2007, 09:10 PM
yeah, seems to be a common problem.....

Southpaw Jim
17-09-2007, 10:19 PM
Myself vs Mr Bettiol ("Grudge Match, round #347"). I played passively in the opening (I think 2.d4 may've been better), and things were very tense but even. I think at around move 20 I was on the back foot a bit, being behind a tempo thanks to 2.d3/4.d4. Then I suddenly realised I had an advantage... and then realised on move 27 that I'd pissed it away and was on the defensive again. Gradually handed back what advantage I had left, and the game ended up dead drawn. A good result for me in many ways, given my record against Sante.

Event: 60'10" tournament
White: Abbott, James
Black: Bettiol, Sante
Result: 1/2-1/2
ECO: B13
WhiteElo: 1178
BlackElo: 1499

1. e4 c6 2. d3 d5 3. exd5 cxd5 4. d4 Nc6 5. Bb5 Qa5+ 6. Nc3 Bd7 7. Bxc6 bxc6 8. Nge2 e6 9. O-O Bd6 10. Bf4 Qc7 11. Qd2 Rb8 12. Bxd6 Qxd6 13. Rab1 Ne7 14. Qf4 Qb4 15. b3 Ng6 16. Qe3 O-O 17. Na4 Qd6 18. Nc5 Bc8 19. Qg3 e5 20. b4 Bf5 21. dxe5 Qxe5 {I was happy with this, freed up my game} 22. Qxe5 Nxe5 23. Nd4 Bc8 24. Rfe1 Nd7 25. Nxc6 Rb6 {here, having garnered a winning advantage, I piss it all away by grabbing a pawn :/ } 26. Nxa7 {Ne7+ retains the advantage} 26...Nxc5 27. bxc5 Ra6 28. Nxc8 Rxc8 29. Ra1 Rac6 30. Rab1 {from hereon, I blithely hand back what little advantage I had left} 30...Rxc5 31. Rb2 g6 32. Re2 d4 33. g3 Rc4 34. Kf1 Ra8 35. Rd2 Rca4 36. Kg2 Kg7 37. Rd1 Rxa2 38. Rxa2 Rxa2 39. Rxd4 Rxc2 {draw agreed} 1/2-1/2

Was a very tense game, I think we were both quite relieved when it was over! :)

Kevin Bonham
17-09-2007, 10:26 PM
Abbott draw Bettiol
Pasanen 0-1 Martin
Ivkovic 0-1 Markovitz
Rust 0-1 Chadwick
Pasanen 0-1 Ivkovic

Entries have closed.

Capablanca-Fan
18-09-2007, 02:29 PM
Event: 60'10" tournament
White: Abbott, James
Black: Bettiol, Sante
Result: 1/2-1/2
ECO: B13
WhiteElo: 1178
BlackElo: 1499

1. e4 c6 2. d3 (certainly playable) 2... d5 3. exd5 (but the idea is to strongpoint d4 with Nd2 and play a KIA) 3... cxd5 4. d4 (yes indeed, if you plan to play the exchange variation, this should be on move 2. I rather like it for white when played properly) 4... Nc6 5. Bb5 (this is not well placed here) 5... Qa5+ 6. Nc3 Bd7 7. Bxc6 bxc6 (this exchange helps Black, giving him the B-pair and strengthening his centre) 8. Nge2 e6 9. O-O Bd6 (Black should play c5, and White would miss his centre pawns) 10. Bf4 (this shows good strategic sense, offering to swap off Black's good B and leave him weak on the dark squares. Black's best would be retreating with ... Be7 and admit that ... Bd6 was wrong) 10... Qc7 11. Qd2 Rb8 12. Bxd6 Qxd6 13. Rab1 Ne7 14. Qf4 Qb4 15. b3 Ng6 16. Qe3 O-O 17. Na4 Qd6 18. Nc5 (again good strategy). 18... Bc8 19. Qg3 e5 20. b4 Bf5 21. dxe5 Qxe5 {I was happy with this, freed up my game} (I agree. In fact, I won a game with a very similar position at the World Junior 1983, with the same dominating Ns on c5 and d4) 22. Qxe5 Nxe5 23. Nd4 Bc8 24. Rfe1 Nd7 25. Nxc6 Rb6 {here, having garnered a winning advantage, I piss it all away by grabbing a pawn :/ } 26. Nxa7 {Ne7+ retains the advantage} (That is an understatement. Taking the Bc8 destroys the guard of the Nd7, and wins the exchange at least) 26...Nxc5 27. bxc5 Ra6 28. Nxc8 Rxc8 29. Ra1 Rac6 30. Rab1 {from hereon, I blithely hand back what little advantage I had left} (yeah, if you are trying to win, and have lots of isolated pawns, a R ending is not usually a good one to) 30...Rxc5 31. Rb2 g6 32. Re2 d4 33. g3 Rc4 34. Kf1 Ra8 35. Rd2 Rca4 36. Kg2 Kg7 37. Rd1 Rxa2 38. Rxa2 Rxa2 39. Rxd4 Rxc2 {draw agreed} (you can't be too displeased with having the better of a draw with someone who outrates you by 300 points. I certainly would be if I drew with someone who similarly outrated me, no matter how disappointed I would be in missing bettter) 1/2-1/2

Southpaw Jim
19-09-2007, 10:36 PM
Thanks Jono :)

In truth, I was intending a KIA, but suddenly panicked about 3...d4 squeezing me and completely overlooked that Nd2 prevented it. Thanks also for the kind comments re strategic considerations - 10.Bf4 and 18.Nc5 were both intentionally made for those very reasons, so it's nice to see my strategic reasoning validated (something that Fritz isn't good at).

Capablanca-Fan
21-09-2007, 09:58 AM
Originally had this result round the wrong way in the above results. Fixed now. Janice played a very strong game.
That would be one of the biggest upsets then?

Kevin Bonham
22-09-2007, 11:14 AM
That would be one of the biggest upsets then?

In ratings points terms yes, but the gap between those two players is reduced at faster time limits.

Southpaw Jim
24-09-2007, 01:22 PM
I will be visiting Hobart in a couple weeks as well. Anybody interested in a simul?:)

Are you coming tonight, or in a week or 2? :)

Kruupy
25-09-2007, 11:00 AM
anyone interested in mid week matches? - I prefer OTB than the internet.

Vlad
26-09-2007, 10:45 AM
Are you coming tonight, or in a week or 2? :)

I did and Anton had four games against ...(I believe Kruupy).

Both white games where one-way-ticket. Starting from move one white was gradually accumulating positional advantage and winning comfortably by about move 20.
When Anton was Black there was an equal fight. In the first game Anton got positionally winning position but blundered a piece and lost. In the second one Anton got completely lost but somehow managed to escape and win completely lost position.

All in all, the final score is 3:1, which suggests that Anton is underrated by about 900 points. If you ask Kevin it is a very little discrepancy and can be explained by some complicated theory.:)

Kruupy
26-09-2007, 11:19 AM
Hi drug,

I really enjoyed the matches played against anton - what is his current rating?
I am fairly new to the sicilian and so was not prepared for what I realise now to be the Grand Prix, however that problem has now been solved.

I would not advise you to make judments over ratings over the matches played that night, not descrediting the win's by anton - but as you could odviously note by the first match, I was not in a true frame of mind, something that is common for untimed, friendly OTB matches. A prime example of this is in the final game when I was positionaly winning with 2 passed pawns however I could not maintan pressure because I felt obligated to make a move rather than to spent time calculating.

Once again, really enjoyed the games, it was a great learning experience.
Thankyou, From Kruupy.

Rhubarb
26-09-2007, 11:46 AM
All in all, the final score is 3:1, which suggests that Anton is underrated by about 900 points. If you ask Kevin it is a very little discrepancy and can be explained by some complicated theory.:)So he's underrated by 900 points now and you hold KB personally responsible? :eek:

Any rating system can only work with the input data. By all accounts, the current ACF system is vastly superior when it comes to tracking changes of rapidly improving players (e.g. juniors). But you know this. You know this very well.

Your dislike of KB's debating methods, where facts are necessary, combined with your obvious subjectivity, put you in the irrational class.

P.S. Are you playing in Ryde this weekend, Vlad?

Kevin Bonham
26-09-2007, 01:03 PM
All in all, the final score is 3:1, which suggests that Anton is underrated by about 900 points. If you ask Kevin it is a very little discrepancy and can be explained by some complicated theory.:)

Once again you are assuming things about my views that are not what I have actually said. Can you show me anywhere where I have said your son was not underrated, or where I have said there were no underrated players? Indeed I've often said that if a player is improving very very fast then no system will reliably keep pace.

Underrated juniors are a different issue from deflation - under Glicko you can have a system that contains some temporarily underrated players but is not necessarily deflating.

As far as I'm aware the only comment I've made about Anton's rating was here (http://www.chesschat.org/showthread.php?p=145534&highlight=unrated#post145534) where I pointed out why his start rating was what it was. Even there if you read my comments carefully you will see I was saying he was probably underrated at the time.

However I don't regard casual games as very strong evidence anyway. I remember one junior who would play good chess against me in casual games, about 1200-1300 strength, but in tournaments he didn't play nearly as well and his rating of 450-odd was a correct indication of his tournament ability. I myself play 150-200 points below my rating in casual games.

Garvinator
26-09-2007, 01:06 PM
P.S. Are you playing in Ryde this weekend, Vlad?
I would say that it is more important that Anton is playing in Ryde, so his rating has as many opportunities as possible to 'catch up'.

Southpaw Jim
26-09-2007, 01:18 PM
I did

Pity, you should've grabbed me for a game before I departed. Was this a one-off trip to Hobart, or will we see you again in the future?

Vlad
27-09-2007, 11:34 AM
Pity, you should've grabbed me for a game before I departed. Was this a one-off trip to Hobart, or will we see you again in the future?

Sorry, I did not know who you were.:) I am in Tasmania till Sunday, but we are going to travel a lot.

Vlad
27-09-2007, 11:38 AM
So he's underrated by 900 points now and you hold KB personally responsible? :eek:

Any rating system can only work with the input data. By all accounts, the current ACF system is vastly superior when it comes to tracking changes of rapidly improving players (e.g. juniors). But you know this. You know this very well.

Your dislike of KB's debating methods, where facts are necessary, combined with your obvious subjectivity, put you in the irrational class.

P.S. Are you playing in Ryde this weekend, Vlad?

Sorry, I was not meant to be rude. I think your judgement is quite right.

I am not sure when the tournament starts but probably not given that we are still in Tasmania and going to be here till Sunday.

Vlad
27-09-2007, 11:40 AM
Hi drug,

I really enjoyed the matches played against anton - what is his current rating?
I am fairly new to the sicilian and so was not prepared for what I realise now to be the Grand Prix, however that problem has now been solved.

I would not advise you to make judments over ratings over the matches played that night, not descrediting the win's by anton - but as you could odviously note by the first match, I was not in a true frame of mind, something that is common for untimed, friendly OTB matches. A prime example of this is in the final game when I was positionaly winning with 2 passed pawns however I could not maintan pressure because I felt obligated to make a move rather than to spent time calculating.

Once again, really enjoyed the games, it was a great learning experience.
Thankyou, From Kruupy.

I do not have much internet time right now, but I will reply once I am back in Sydney. Sorry if my comment was rude, I did not mean it.

Southpaw Jim
01-10-2007, 10:43 PM
Tonight's disappointment:

White: Ivkovic, Milutin
Black: Abbott, James
WhiteElo: 1488
BlackElo: 1178
Result: 1-0

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. h3 Be7 6. Be3 O-O 7. Be2 Nc6 8. a3 a6 9. O-O d5 10. exd5 exd5 11. d4 c4 12. Re1 b5 13. Na2 Ne4 14. c3 Be6 15. Bf4 f6 16. Nd2 f5 17. Nxe4 fxe4 18. Bg3 Bh4 19. Bg4 Bxg4 20. Qxg4 Bxg3 21. Qxg3 Qe7 22. Nc1 Rf6 23. Ne2 Raf8 24. Rf1 Nd8 25. Qg5 R6f7 26. Qxd5 Qb7 27. Qg5 Rf5 28. Qe3 Ne6 29. Ng3 Rf4 30. Rad1 Qd5 31. Rde1 Ng5 32. Ne2 R4f6 {32... Nf3+ 33. gxf3 Rxf3 etc with a slight edge} 33. h4 Nf7 34. Nf4 Qd6 35. Qxe4 Nh6 {35... Rxf4 36. Qe7 Qxe7 37. Rxe7 Rxh4 with a decent advantage - I can't believe I missed this, I even noticed that the N was loose, but missed that my Q was hitting it too} 36. g3 Ng4 37. Kg2 Qc6 38. f3 Qxe4 39. fxe4 Re8 40. e5 Rf5 41. Nd5 Rxf1 42. Rxf1 Nxe5 43. dxe5 Rxe5 44. Nf4 a5 45. Rd1 g5 46. hxg5 Rxg5 47. Rd8+ Kf7 48. Kf3 b4 49. axb4 axb4 50. cxb4 Rb5 51. Nd5 Ke6 52. Ke4 Rb7 53. Kd4 Rg7 54. Kxc4 Rg4+ 55. Nf4+ Ke7 56. Rd3 h5 57. Rf3 h4 58. gxh4 Rxh4 59. b5 Kd7 60. Kc5 Kc7 61. Nd5+ Kb7 62. Rf7+ Kb8 63. b3 Rh5 64. b6 Rh8 65. Kb5 Rc8 66. Ka6 Rc6 67. Ne7 Rc1 68. Rf8+ 1-0

Kev - you were right, there were a couple of opportunities - annotated in the game above.

Sigh, it's about time I caught this particular fish :( :wall:

Kruupy
01-10-2007, 11:15 PM
WOW!, Milutin played 1.e4! :) :) :)

Southpaw Jim
01-10-2007, 11:26 PM
Yes, I was so shocked, I nearly resigned! :P

Kruupy
01-10-2007, 11:39 PM
hahahahahaha. very nice.
It looks like a very nice game too, congrats.

I really enjoyed Sante's game - i thought it was very very instructive and well played defensively by him under the time pressure with that run away pawn.

santeb72
01-10-2007, 11:51 PM
A tight game, but blew it at the end under time pressure. A shame.

Move 21 The sac was unsound. But thought it was a goer.

Move 24 for me was a good one. Gets a ! from Frtiz

Move 27 Ne5 was +5 with Fritz. I saw it, but didnt play it.

Blew it on Move 30.

Could have saved the game with
48.Nxe5+ Kg7 49.Nc6 a4 50.Nd4 Rb4 51.Nf5+
If 48...fxe5 then Bc4+ wins the rook.

Then at the end had only seconds left, blundered the knight.

White: Bettiol, Sante
Black: Midson, Mike

{} 1. Nf3 d5 2. g3 Bf5 3. Bg2 h6 4. O-O Nf6 5. d3
Nbd7 6. Nbd2 c6 7. Nd4 Bh7 8. e4 e6 9. Qe2 Bd6 10. f4 dxe4 11. Nxe4 Bxe4 12.
dxe4 Bc5 13. c3 O-O 14. Kh1 e5 15. Nf5 Kh7 16. Be3 Qb6 17. Bxc5 Qxc5 18. Rad1
Rad8 19. Nd6 Qb6 20. fxe5 Nxe5 21. Rxf6 gxf6 22. Qh5 Qe3 23. Qf5+ Kg7 24. Qxe5
Qe2 25. Qd4 Qh5 26. Rf1 Qe5 27. Qxe5 fxe5 28. Nc4 f6 29. Kg1 Rf7 30. Kf2 b5 31.
Na5 Rd2+ 32. Kf3 Rxb2 33. Nxc6 Rxa2 34. Rc1 Rc7 35. Nd8 Rd7 36. Ne6+ Kf7 37.
Nc5 Rdd2 38. Rg1 Rdc2 39. Nd3 Rxc3 40. Ke3 Raa3 41. Rd1 b4 42. Bh3 b3 43. Bf1
b2 44. Kd2 Rcb3 45. Kc2 Ra1 46. Rb1 Rxb1 47. Kxb1 a5 48. Nxb2 Re3 49. Bc4+ Ke7
50. Kc2 Rxe4 51. Bd3 Rd4 52. Bf5 Kd6 53. g4 Kc5 54. Kc3 a4 55. h4 a3 56. Na4+
Rxa4 *

Capablanca-Fan
02-10-2007, 09:37 AM
White: Ivkovic, Milutin
Black: Abbott, James
WhiteElo: 1488
BlackElo: 1178
Result: 1-0

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. h3 Be7 {Would be worth considering a fianchetto, which places the B more actively The only real danger to this is the Yugoslav Attack with h4, whih White has ruled out. J} 6. Be3 O-O 7. Be2 Nc6 {A slack system for White. A Closed setup with f4 and g3 would still have some aggressive power. J} 8. a3 a6 {8... Rb8, b5, a5 to play b4 is a more precise way of attacking on the Q-side} 9. O-O d5 10. exd5 exd5 11. d4 c4 12. Re1 b5 13. Na2 Ne4 14. c3 Be6 {14... a5 then b4, or Black could play ... f5 aiming for the K-side. With lots of pieces on, a following ...g5, g4 would be a serious attack. Black has definitely played the opening much better than White has. J} 15. Bf4 f6 16. Nd2 f5 17. Nxe4 fxe4 18. Bg3 Bh4 19. Bg4 Bxg4 20. Qxg4 Bxg3 21. Qxg3 Qe7 22. Nc1 Rf6 23. Ne2 Raf8 24. Rf1 Nd8 25. Qg5 R6f7 {Why on earth did you simply give away a good pawn for, especially such an important anchor pawn? Then it was followed by an offer to exchange Qs, and I have no idea why White avoided this exchange. Black had a good game, even though his space advantage was dissipated by lots of exchanges in this case. J} 26. Qxd5 Qb7 27. Qg5 Rf5 28. Qe3 Ne6 29. Ng3 Rf4 30. Rad1 Qd5 31. Rde1 Ng5 32. Ne2 R4f6 {32... Nf3+ 33. gxf3 Rxf3 etc with a slight edge} 33. h4 Nf7 34. Nf4 Qd6 35. Qxe4 Nh6 {35... Rxf4 36. Qe7 Qxe7 37. Rxe7 Rxh4 with a decent advantage - I can't believe I missed this, I even noticed that the N was loose, but missed that my Q was hitting it too. (Nor can I believe that White missed it too. He certainly didn't need to give it away. J)} 36. g3 Ng4 37. Kg2 Qc6 38. f3 Qxe4 39. fxe4 Re8 {Was there a reason to offer a Q exchange while two pawns down, for White to refuse to swap, then for Black to swap anyway and strengthen White's pawns as a bonus? J} 40. e5 Rf5 41. Nd5 Rxf1 42. Rxf1 Nxe5 43. dxe5 Rxe5 {There is no hope for Black a clear N down. J} 44. Nf4 a5 45. Rd1 g5 46. hxg5 Rxg5 47. Rd8+ Kf7 48. Kf3 b4 49. axb4 axb4 50. cxb4 Rb5 51. Nd5 Ke6 52. Ke4 Rb7 53. Kd4 Rg7 54. Kxc4 Rg4+ 55. Nf4+ Ke7 56. Rd3 h5 57. Rf3 h4 58. gxh4 Rxh4 59. b5 Kd7 60. Kc5 Kc7 61. Nd5+ Kb7 62. Rf7+ Kb8 63. b3 Rh5 64. b6 Rh8 65. Kb5 Rc8 66. Ka6 Rc6 67. Ne7 Rc1 68. Rf8+ 1-0

Capablanca-Fan
02-10-2007, 11:05 AM
White: Bettiol, Sante
Black: Midson, Mike

1. Nf3 d5 2. g3 Bf5 3. Bg2 h6 4. O-O Nf6 5. d3 Nbd7 6. Nbd2 c6 7. Nd4 (probably could play 7. e4 as a sacrifice, cf. Vasily Smyslov vs Max Euwe Zurich 1953 (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1042834). The N is exposed on d5 and merely drives the B to a safer square) 7... Bh7 8. e4 e6 9. Qe2 Bd6 10. f4 dxe4 11. Nxe4 Bxe4 12. dxe4 Bc5 13. c3 O-O (13... e5 would force White to take and be saddled with an isolated pawn and allow Black a good square for the N) 14. Kh1 e5 15. Nf5 Kh7 16. Be3 (White should retain this B. Maybe h3 and try to build on the f-file, aiming for a fxe5 when YOU are ready and a sac on g7 or h6) 16... Qb6 17. Bxc5 Qxc5 18. Rad1 Rad8 19. Nd6 Qb6 20. fxe5 Nxe5 21. Rxf6 gxf6 22. Qh5 Qe3 23. Qf5+ Kg7 24. Qxe5 Qe2 25. Qd4 Qh5 26. Rf1 Qe5 27. Qxe5 fxe5 (White should have kept Qs on with 27. Nf5+ then Qe3, with an attack that should be quickly decisive. Previously, Black should have simply taken the Q, allowing the fork in return and going into an endgame, with much the same play as he got here.) 28. Nc4 f6 29. Kg1 Rf7 30. Kf2 b5 31. Na5 Rd2+ 32. Kf3 Rxb2 33. Nxc6 Rxa2 34. Rc1 Rc7 35. Nd8 Rd7 36. Ne6+ Kf7 37. Nc5 Rdd2 38. Rg1 Rdc2 39. Nd3 Rxc3 40. Ke3 Raa3 41. Rd1 b4 42. Bh3 b3 43. Bf1 b2 44. Kd2 Rcb3 45. Kc2 Ra1 46. Rb1 Rxb1 47. Kxb1 a5 48. Nxb2 Re3 49. Bc4+ Ke7 50. Kc2 Rxe4 51. Bd3 Rd4 52. Bf5 Kd6 53. g4 Kc5 54. Kc3 a4 55. h4 a3 56. Na4+ Rxa4 0-1

Kevin Bonham
02-10-2007, 11:17 AM
In Ivkovic-Abbott, ...Nf3+ was one of the lines I was looking at but I had not determined that it led to an advantage. I hadn't seen the position a few moves later with the knight hanging though.

Other results - Martin 0-1 Bonham, Kruup 1-0 Rust.

Martin - Bonham

1.d4 e6 2.c4 d5 3.e3 Nf6 4.Nf3 c5 thanks Jono! 5.Nc3 Nc6 6.cxd5 Nxd5 7.Bb5 Qb6 8.0-0 Nxc3 9.Bxc6+ Qxc6 10.bxc3 Bd6 11.a4 b6 12.Re1 Bb7 13.e4 cxd4 14.cxd4 0-0 15.Ba3 Rfd8 16.Qb3 Bxa3 17.Qxa3 Rac8 18.h3 Qd7 19.Qb4 Rc2 20.Rad1 h6 21.Ne5 Qc7 22.Nf3 Rc4 23.Qa3 Bc6 24.Ne5 Rcxd4 25.Rxd4 Rxd4 26.Nxc6 Qxc6 27.Qe7 Qxa4 28.Qb7 Qd7 29.Qb8+ Kh7 30.e5 Rd1 31.Rxd1 Qxd1+ 32.Kh2 Qd7 33.Qd6 Qb7 34.Qd3+ g6 35.g4 b5 36.h4 b4 37.h5 b3 38.hxg6+ fxg6 39.f4 b2 40.f5 b1=Q 41.fxg6+ Kg7 42.Qd8 Q1h1+ 43.Kg3 Qbf3# 0-1

Capablanca-Fan
02-10-2007, 11:42 AM
Martin - Bonham

1.d4 e6 2.c4 d5 3.e3 Nf6 4.Nf3 c5 (thanks Jono! You're welcome Kevin, although in that case it was an answer to f3. It's an OK move here for sure) 5.Nc3 Nc6 6.cxd5 Nxd5 7.Bb5 Qb6 8.0-0 Nxc3 9.Bxc6+ Qxc6 (White should not have exchanged this B) 10.bxc3 Bd6 11.a4 b6 12.Re1 Bb7 13.e4 cxd4 14.cxd4 0-0 15.Ba3 Rfd8 16.Qb3 Bxa3 17.Qxa3 Rac8 18.h3 Qd7 19.Qb4 Rc2 20.Rad1 h6 21.Ne5 Qc7 (White didn't appreciate the importance of the c-file. Compare Alatortsev – Capablanca, Moscow 1935 (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1328989)) 22.Nf3 Rc4 23.Qa3 Bc6 24.Ne5 Rcxd4 25.Rxd4 Rxd4 26.Nxc6 Qxc6 27.Qe7 Qxa4 28.Qb7 Qd7 29.Qb8+ Kh7 30.e5 Rd1 31.Rxd1 Qxd1+ 32.Kh2 Qd7 33.Qd6 Qb7 34.Qd3+ g6 35.g4 b5 36.h4 b4 37.h5 b3 38.hxg6+ fxg6 39.f4 b2 40.f5 b1=Q 41.fxg6+ Kg7 42.Qd8 Q1h1+ 43.Kg3 Qbf3# 0-1

Southpaw Jim
02-10-2007, 12:42 PM
Thanks Jono.


Why on earth did you simply give away a good pawn for, especially such an important anchor pawn?
Sadly, I overlooked the fact that it was unprotected. Definitely a 'doh!' moment :doh:

I'd considered a fianchetto at 5...Be7, but opted not to disturb the pawn structure. Not that I'm fazed by fianchettos, I started off playing Pirc/KID/KIA setups. I was a little bit at sea here, as most of my (limited) Sicilian experience has been with the Open variety (notwithstanding a tendency to play Closed as white :hmm: ).


Was there a reason to offer a Q exchange while two pawns down, for White to refuse to swap, then for Black to swap anyway and strengthen White's pawns as a bonus?
Not that I can really think of. I knew I was pretty much screwed at this point, I guess I was hoping I could kill off the pawns and maybe swindle myself into a drawish R v R+N ending.


In Ivkovic-Abbott, ...Nf3+ was one of the lines I was looking at but I had not determined that it led to an advantage.
Yeah, well it was very marginal IIRC, and I certainly would not have played it without computer analysis telling me to.

Thanks for the commentary guys - obviously, I don't get this stuff from Fritz :cool:

Kevin Bonham
02-10-2007, 02:01 PM
Yeah, well it was very marginal IIRC, and I certainly would not have played it without computer analysis telling me to.

It seems to actually lead to a drawish but tricky Q or Q+R ending after 33.gxf3 Rxf3 34.Qd2 e3 35.fxe3 Qg5+ 36.Ng3 and black wins the knight. I'd seen as far as ...Qg5+ but hadn't noticed that white must surrender the knight or lose a rook. Or 34.Ng3 giving up the queen to have rook, knight and passed pawn for queen is a line I didn't consider at all.

Jono - checking I see that actually you previously suggested ...c5 in a position with the N on c3 instead of f3. After 5.Nc3 it transposed to the same line as the game where you made the suggestion.

Capablanca-Fan
02-10-2007, 02:16 PM
It seems to actually lead to a drawish but tricky Q or Q+R ending after 33.gxf3 Rxf3 34.Qd2 e3 35.fxe3 Qg5+ 36.Ng3 and black wins the knight. I'd seen as far as ...Qg5+ but hadn't noticed that white must surrender the knight or lose a rook. Or 34.Ng3 giving up the queen to have rook, knight and passed pawn for queen is a line I didn't consider at all.
I first thought this looked very strong for Black after 36.Ng3 Rxg3+ 37.Kh2 Rxf1 38.Rxf1 Qh4, but this loses to 39. Rf8+!.


Jono — checking I see that actually you previously suggested ...c5 in a position with the N on c3 instead of f3. After 5.Nc3 it transposed to the same line as the game where you made the suggestion.
Oh, OK then.

Kruupy
08-10-2007, 08:56 PM
Hi all,

How did you guys go tonight?

santeb72
08-10-2007, 09:54 PM
Against Janice tonight.
Tough Game. I was down to 5 min. Janice still had 50.
She had a strong Queen attack, but once that was dealt with, the game opened up for me and I got my first full point in the tournament. Very relieved, as she missed a couple of strong moves according to Fritz.
I missed 41 Qc6!

Event: Hobart Chess Club Sept 07 60 min 10 sec
Date: 2007.10.08
White: Bettiol, Sante
Black: Martin, Janice
Result: 1-0
ECO: A13
WhiteElo: 1499
BlackElo: 1397


{159MB, Fritz8.ctg, SANTEPC} 1. Nf3 d5 2. g3 c5 3. Bg2 e6 4. O-O Nf6 5. c4 Nc6
6. cxd5 exd5 7. b3 Be7 8. Bb2 O-O 9. e3 h6 10. Qc2 Be6 11. a3 Rc8 12. Nc3 a6
13. Ne2 b5 14. Ne5 Nxe5 15. Bxe5 Nd7 16. Bb2 Bf6 17. Nf4 Bxb2 18. Qxb2 Qf6 19.
Qc2 Nb6 20. Ne2 Rfd8 21. d3 Qe7 22. Qd2 Qc7 23. Rfc1 Qa7 24. Qb2 Qe7 25. Nf4
Qf6 26. Qd2 Qe7 27. Rab1 Qa7 28. h3 a5 29. Rc2 b4 30. Nxe6 fxe6 31. axb4 cxb4
32. Ra2 Rc3 33. Rba1 Rxb3 34. Rxa5 Qe7 35. Rb5 Rb8 36. Qc2 Rc3 37. Qb1 Qc7 38.
Rxb4 Qc5 39. d4 Rc1+ 40. Qxc1 Qxb4 41. Qd1 Nc4 42. Qg4 Qe7 43. h4 Rf8 44. Bh3
Qf6 45. Qxe6+ Qxe6 46. Bxe6+ Kh8 47. Bxd5 Nd2 48. Ra8 Rxa8 49. Bxa8 1-0

Kevin Bonham
08-10-2007, 11:54 PM
I thought that was going to be a tough battle given Sante's severe time disadvantage until Janice started playing way too fast, falling in a heap from 44...Qf6? onwards.

Other results Abbott 0-1 Bonham, and Richards 1-0 Midson. It's curious that a player who was on 0/4 beat the player who was on 3/3 but Midson played some kind of very dodgy looking hedgehoggy thing (as he has done quite often lately) and Richards (as I thought he might given his flair for kingside attacking) demolished it.

Southpaw Jim
09-10-2007, 10:24 AM
My latest atrocity (http://www.chesschat.org/showthread.php?p=170242#post170242), filed in the appropriate thread :doh:

Kruupy
11-10-2007, 01:57 AM
Hi all,

great news!, I've managed to upload our new website!! - everyone please check it out at www.hobartchess.tk

I had a few troubles with autosizing the website to fit with different screen resolutions - so I created the site to idealy use a 800x600 screen resolution this problem will be solved shortly. I am very interested for people to post here as to what screen res you use and whether you like the site!

Ok,I've just realised that the .tk has put a really ugly banner accross the top of the website - so if you would like to view the site without this please goto http://members.iinet.net.au/~kruupy/

Cheers,
Kruupy.

Basil
11-10-2007, 08:51 AM
Good work, Krups.

Kruupy
11-10-2007, 08:53 AM
Thanks Gunner.

Capablanca-Fan
11-10-2007, 05:36 PM
Event: Hobart Chess Club Sept 07 60 min 10 sec
Date: 2007.10.08
White: Bettiol, Sante
Black: Martin, Janice
Result: 1-0
ECO: A13
WhiteElo: 1499
BlackElo: 1397


{159MB, Fritz8.ctg, SANTEPC} 1. Nf3 d5 2. g3 c5 3. Bg2 e6 4. O-O Nf6 5. c4 Nc6
6. cxd5 exd5 7. b3 (way too elaborate. White should transpose into the Tarrasch with 7. d4. And since White neglected to play this, Black should have seized space herself with d4. The same comments apply to the next few moves.) 7... Be7 8. Bb2 O-O 9. e3 h6 10. Qc2 Be6 11. a3 Rc8 12. Nc3 a6
13. Ne2 b5 14. Ne5 Nxe5 15. Bxe5 Nd7 16. Bb2 Bf6 17. Nf4 Bxb2 18. Qxb2 Qf6 19.
Qc2 Nb6 20. Ne2 Rfd8 21. d3 Qe7 22. Qd2 Qc7 23. Rfc1 Qa7 24. Qb2 Qe7 25. Nf4
Qf6 26. Qd2 (why avoid the swap, which would leave Black with weak pawns that White can assail, e.g. 26. Qxf6 gxf6 27. Nh5! f5 and White can gang up on this with Bh3, K moves to f3, N maneuvres to h4. White might also want to fix the Black Q-side with b4 or d4, allowing a protected but immobile passed pawn on c4) 26... Qe7 27. Rab1 Qa7 28. h3 a5 29. Rc2 b4 30. Nxe6 fxe6 31. axb4 cxb4
32. Ra2 Rc3 33. Rba1 Rxb3 34. Rxa5 Qe7 35. Rb5 Rb8 36. Qc2 Rc3 37. Qb1 Qc7 (Black must play 37... Nd7, with good chances with that passed pawn and control of the c-file. But with a pawn minus and the two pawn islands, Black has little hope) 38.
Rxb4 Qc5 39. d4 Rc1+ 40. Qxc1 Qxb4 41. Qd1 Nc4 42. Qg4 Qe7 43. h4 Rf8 44. Bh3
Qf6 (loses without a fight. But even something like 44... Rf6 won't last long after 45. Rh8+ Kh7 46. Bf1! going for the weak light squares) 45. Qxe6+ Qxe6 46. Bxe6+ Kh8 47. Bxd5 Nd2 48. Ra8 Rxa8 49. Bxa8 1-0