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Ian_Rogers
29-07-2021, 09:27 PM
I have been approached by the editor of a Russian chess encyclopaedia asking if I knew any information about the parents/family background of Serge Rubanraut.
Can anyone on the forum help with this?

blackbishop
30-07-2021, 08:17 AM
The family name may have originally been Rubinrout. I can't find any obituary on Trove under either name despite much of the last chess references on Trove around 2008 being about Jewish chess news.

Metro
30-07-2021, 04:37 PM
Burial info.including an image of his headstone:
https://rookwoodcemetery.discovereverafter.com/search-results?search_first=Serge&search_last=Rubanraut&cemetery=248&site=rookwoodcemetery&advanced-search=Search

Patrick Byrom
30-07-2021, 06:14 PM
There is an interesting hit in Google - an article dated July 9 2016 in the Arts/Review section of The Australian titled "This (Resourceful) Life". It seems to have some background about his parents, if you can avoid the paywall.

blackbishop
31-07-2021, 09:56 AM
Peter Jansen may know something according to his post below. I will send him a private message via Chess Chat. If anyone know Peter, perhaps they could contact him.

http://www.chesschat.org/showthread.php?18084-Reminiscences-of-players-past&highlight=Rubanraut


Posted by Peter Jansen 02-07-2020,01:17 PM

I first met Bela Berger in the late 70's through Serge Rubanraut.
Serge and I shared accomodation around Darlinghurst/Kings Cross and often strolled up Darlinghurst Rd for a meal or a coffee.
One day we were passing a small real estate office in Darlinghurst Rd, "Berger Real Estate", and Serge said lets go in and say hello to Mr Berger, he's got an IM title but mostly plays bridge these days.

We used to drop in for a coffee with Mr Berger now and then, we always deferred to him and called him Mr Berger.
He did not particularly like the real estate business but shrugged his shoulders, what to do?, I arrived in Australia as a Hungarian refugee and my profession in Europe was as a professional chessplayer....?

He became a professional in Hungary to save his father.
His politically active father was under threat of a death sentence from the Stalinist regime, to have it commuted Bela (already an established chess master) had to agree to stay in Hungary and to play chess as a state employee.

Serge's father had a similar lament arriving here from Russia via China via France with high qualifications that were not recognized here and he ended up working in real estate for L J Hooker.

MichaelBaron
31-07-2021, 11:26 AM
His surname is certainly not Russian. Two possibilities that come to mind based on the surname 1) Jewish 2) French (and many French people were settling in Russia in the 19th century - they were usually coming over to act as tutors/teaching for children of the nobleman so were usually at least relatively well-educated. Today we would call it professional migration.

Metro
31-07-2021, 07:22 PM
His surname is certainly not Russian. Two possibilities that come to mind based on the surname 1) Jewish If you look at the headstone image-click on "Show me more"-doesn't it contain Hebrew script?

Patrick Byrom
31-07-2021, 11:08 PM
He was buried in a Jewish cemetery. This is from The Australian:

I liked Serge even though he was difficult to talk to. He never spoke about his background although I understood his mother escaped the Holocaust by fleeing to China. He and his mother came to Australia from Shanghai. I knew nothing about his father. He lived a very internal life and never seemed entirely happy. I read recently that in 2008 he suffered a heart attack, died and was buried in the Jewish section of the Rookwood Cemetery in Sydney.

blackbishop
01-08-2021, 07:13 AM
From another post by Peter Jansen:


peterjansen 27-01-2020, 10:17 AM #1

http://www.chesschat.org/showthread.php?17890-Hay-Rubanraut-conflict-(sf-RIP-Trevor-Hay)


“A couple of tales and an update on the Hay-Rubanraut stoush.

As an aside, Serge Rubanraut's surname sometimes was spelled Rubinraut, he changed his name by deed poll from Rubinraut. Another story.”

No response as yet from Peter to my private message.

Garvinator
01-08-2021, 06:50 PM
He was buried in a Jewish cemetery. This is from The Australian:

I liked Serge even though he was difficult to talk to. He never spoke about his background although I understood his mother escaped the Holocaust by fleeing to China. He and his mother came to Australia from Shanghai. I knew nothing about his father. He lived a very internal life and never seemed entirely happy. I read recently that in 2008 he suffered a heart attack, died and was buried in the Jewish section of the Rookwood Cemetery in Sydney.

To add further to this. From the link provided by Metro, there are two dates of deaths shown.

The second one is: RELIGIOUS DATE OF DEATH 13 TISHREI 5769, which is from the Jewish or Hebrew Calendar: https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/jewish-calendar.html