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ER
01-06-2021, 10:14 AM
I couldn't find a relevant thread for this topic, so I started one here.

As announced yesterday - May, 31 2021 - by ECU (European Chess Union)

In February, and under the conditions of strict lockdowns in Europe, the ECU Board had to make a difficult decision on how to distribute the European qualifying places. the decision had been made for the European Hybrid Qualifier. But in such unpredictable circumstances we had to find an assurance that so 10 places were decided for the highest placed players who had no other personal right. This was a special decision for a special year.

Qualifiers by rating. See attached image


Details of the Hybrid European qualifiers here

https://www.europechess.org/36-players-qualified-for-world-chess-cup/

Any sort of criticism under the present covid-19 related circumstances in Europe is rather inappropriate. However, having almost 40% of the 46 European qualifiers representing one country (Russia) might raise a few eyebrows!
Well, it might not be as bad as the USSR dominated zonal system in the old times, but considering that the FIDE World Cup 2021 will be held in Russia, makes the whole situation sound a tad unfair, that's my opinion anyway!

MichaelBaron
03-06-2021, 10:15 AM
I couldn't find a relevant thread for this topic, so I started one here.

As announced yesterday - May, 31 2021 - by ECU (European Chess Union)

In February, and under the conditions of strict lockdowns in Europe, the ECU Board had to make a difficult decision on how to distribute the European qualifying places. the decision had been made for the European Hybrid Qualifier. But in such unpredictable circumstances we had to find an assurance that so 10 places were decided for the highest placed players who had no other personal right. This was a special decision for a special year.

Qualifiers by rating. See attached image


Details of the Hybrid European qualifiers here

https://www.europechess.org/36-players-qualified-for-world-chess-cup/

Any sort of criticism under the present covid-19 related circumstances in Europe is rather inappropriate. However, having almost 40% of the 46 European qualifiers representing one country (Russia) might raise a few eyebrows!
Well, it might not be as bad as the USSR dominated zonal system in the old times, but considering that the FIDE World Cup 2021 will be held in Russia, makes the whole situation sound a tad unfair, that's my opinion anyway!

If its going to be non Hybrid (and how can you select WCC candidates via Hybrid) - how will the Australian representative participate anyway?

Bill Gletsos
03-06-2021, 11:58 AM
If its going to be non Hybrid (and how can you select WCC candidates via Hybrid) - how will the Australian representative participate anyway?The 2021 World Cup is OTB in Sochi, Russia, not hybrid. See the World cup website - https://worldcup.fide.com/

MichaelBaron
03-06-2021, 01:14 PM
The 2021 World Cup is OTB in Sochi, Russia, not hybrid. See the World cup website - https://worldcup.fide.com/

Then its fair to say that Timur's participation is unlikely. Going out of Australia in July...

MichaelBaron
03-06-2021, 01:18 PM
The participants list also includes Allen Fan nominated by NZ -rated 2193. My guess is: he is overseas-based already so easier for him to make it to Sochi:rolleyes:

Bill Gletsos
03-06-2021, 05:49 PM
The 4 June, 23:59 Lausanne time is the confirmation deadline for the Women's World Cup and 6 June, 23:59 Lausanne time for the world Cup.

The 9 June, 23:59 Lausanne time is the nomination and confirmation deadline for both for all players nominated by their respective federations.

Craig_Hall
03-06-2021, 08:47 PM
The participants list also includes Allen Fan nominated by NZ -rated 2193. My guess is: he is overseas-based already so easier for him to make it to Sochi:rolleyes:

Allen lives in NZ (he's still a junior).

MichaelBaron
04-06-2021, 03:14 AM
Allen lives in NZ (he's still a junior).

Right, so with 2193 getting nominated, I trust that the 2200+ NZ players did not apply but he is prepared to undertake all the travelling adventures.

Craig_Hall
04-06-2021, 05:25 PM
Right, so with 2193 getting nominated, I trust that the 2200+ NZ players did not apply but he is prepared to undertake all the travelling adventures.

Essentially, particularly with the likely difficulties getting the time off work for travel + quarantine.

ER
11-06-2021, 10:19 AM
Magnus to play in 2021 World Cup

https://www.fide.com/news/1139

Kevin Bonham
23-06-2021, 06:01 PM
World Cup pairings are out.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qmR9-8a0uGQocOeO8nm17bopX2PKmzxR/view

With the expanded field Bobby Cheng has just drawn in the top half for the first round (which is not comparable to the first round in previous WCs) and is seeded 126, playing 131 seeded GM Vahap Sanal (India). Sanal is in his early 20s and their ratings are almost identical.

The winner plays Levon Aronian in the second round, which is equivalent to the old first round.

(NB I don't know for sure that Bobby is playing given the issues with COVID travel at the moment, I am just noting that that is what happens if he is.)

Temur Kuybokarov isn't playing and is replaced by ... Elmer Prudente (rating 1998) of Guam!

Kevin Bonham
23-06-2021, 06:20 PM
Poll added

Poll rules - you can vote for up to 3 players. If anyone votes for more than 3 then only the highest listed in the poll will count.

The poll winner(s) are the voters whose player(s) finish the highest (countback is finishing position of second player voted for, then third player voted for.)

A vote for Other only counts if the other player is named on the thread before the poll closes. The poll closes 14-07-2021 at 06:16 PM AEST.

Because of COVID, if a voter has voted for a player and that player withdraws before the poll closes or the player has played any games then that voter may cast a replacement vote by posting on the thread before the poll closes.

ER
23-06-2021, 07:52 PM
Poll added

No poll for the Women's World Cup?

Kevin Bonham
23-06-2021, 07:56 PM
No poll for women?

Can only do one poll per thread! The Women's World Cup runs at the same time but ends four days earlier. Feel free to start a thread on it and put a poll up if you like. If no one else starts a thread I will eventually; I am unsure of the interest level for a poll so will only put a poll up myself if I think there is enough interest.

Ian Rout
23-06-2021, 08:17 PM
Twelve of the top 20 playing (if I counted right).

Missing: Ding Liren, Nepo, Anand, Wang Hao, So, Rapport, Nakamura and Topalov.

Max Illingworth
23-06-2021, 11:17 PM
I played Vahap Sanal many times on Chess.com (under his username SantoBlue). He's a very creative player and quite tricky in blitz - sometimes I used those qualities against him with very classical, measured play.

ER
24-06-2021, 05:56 PM
I am unsure of the interest level for a poll.
So am I. we'll see how it goes anyway!

MichaelBaron
24-06-2021, 09:19 PM
World Cup pairings are out.

[url]

Temur Kuybokarov isn't playing and is replaced by ... Elmer Prudente (rating 1998) of Guam!
No wonder, Anton was not interested either.
Amazed that Bobby made it to the WC

Kevin Bonham
24-06-2021, 09:39 PM
No wonder, Anton was not interested either.
Amazed that Bobby made it to the WC

There were two ways Australians could qualify - firstly via the Oceania Zonal and secondly via the position reserved to Australia following the expansion of the World Cup.

Only two Australians were allowed to play in this year's Zonal conducted in hybrid format. With neither Temur and Anton going to the World Cup, Nic Croad (NZL) was third but hasn't gone either so Prudente who was fourth gets the spot.

Bobby applied for the Australian-reserved position and was selected on ratings.

MichaelBaron
24-06-2021, 11:04 PM
Bobby applied for the Australian-reserved position and was selected on ratings.

Bobby is definitely one of our top players, I am amazed not that he is selected (he absolutely deserves it! But that he will be able/prepared to play in Russia right now.

Czentovic
26-06-2021, 09:11 PM
World Cup pairings are out.

Open

Sanal, Vahap (TUR) vs. Cheng, Bobby (AUS)
Sjugirov, Sanan (RUS) vs. Prudente, Elmer (GUM)
Fan, Allen (NZL) vs. Lupulescu, Constantin (ROU)

Women

Ryjanova, Julia (AUS) vs. Tsolakidou, Stavroula (GRE)
Drastik, Penelope (AUS) vs. Sebag, Marie (FRA)

Michael. I
26-06-2021, 10:06 PM
World Cup pairings are out.

Open

Sanal, Vahap (TUR) vs. Cheng, Bobby (AUS)
Sjugirov, Sanan (RUS) vs. Prudente, Elmer (GUM)
Fan, Allen (NZL) vs. Lupulescu, Constantin (ROU)

Women

Ryjanova, Julia (AUS) vs. Tsolakidou, Stavroula (GRE)
Drastik, Penelope (AUS) vs. Sebag, Marie (FRA)

It took me by :wow: that I saw Julia Ryjanova in these pairings, whom I see at MCC Allegros. Well done to her, anyways, for making it through :) :clap:
Having said that, how so is she classifed to leave Australia? Maybe as a sports athlete? :eh:

MichaelBaron
27-06-2021, 01:11 AM
World Cup pairings are out.

Open

Sanal, Vahap (TUR) vs. Cheng, Bobby (AUS)
Sjugirov, Sanan (RUS) vs. Prudente, Elmer (GUM)
Fan, Allen (NZL) vs. Lupulescu, Constantin (ROU)

Women

Ryjanova, Julia (AUS) vs. Tsolakidou, Stavroula (GRE)
Drastik, Penelope (AUS) vs. Sebag, Marie (FRA)

Julia Ryjanova was at MCC today playing allegro - ''last minute'' practice for the WC

Michael. I
27-06-2021, 07:17 AM
Well yes, no surprises :)

ER
27-06-2021, 08:27 AM
Julia Ryjanova was at MCC today playing allegro - ''last minute'' practice for the WC

While her opponent in the WC Stavroula Tsolakidou (GR) just won the Mediterranean Womens' Championship!

MichaelBaron
27-06-2021, 03:07 PM
While her opponent in the WC Stavroula Tsolakidou (GR) just won the Mediterranean Womens' Championship!

I guess given the current quarantine requirements for the participants - it is much easier to get/get ready to play in Sochi from Miditerranean.

ER
27-06-2021, 03:10 PM
I guess given the current quarantine requirements for the participants - it is much easier to get/get ready to play in Sochi from Miditerranean.

that's absolutely correct. I don't know how wise it is but that's the case!

Czentovic
07-07-2021, 05:41 PM
Julia Ryjanova's name is not on the list of participants for the 2021 WC (go here https://worldcup.fide.com/news and click on "Required documents to enter Russia") but she is still listed as playing in the Women's WC pairings.

MichaelBaron
09-07-2021, 02:09 PM
Not everyone will make it i think. The Brazilian player is currently struggling to enter Russia.

Desmond
12-07-2021, 07:10 PM
Coverage from 10pm

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/sochi-fide-world-cup-2021/1/1/1

Kevin Bonham
12-07-2021, 10:05 PM
Sanal - Cheng

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/sochi-fide-world-cup-2021/1/18/1

Ryjanova - Tsolakidou

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/sochi-fide-womens-world-cup-2021/1/42/1

Drastik - Sebag

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/sochi-fide-womens-world-cup-2021/1/52/1

Kevin Bonham
12-07-2021, 10:41 PM
Bobby has taken his opponent off the beaten track extremely quickly. After black's 7th, no games by anyone of note.

Kevin Bonham
12-07-2021, 11:50 PM
Cheng game now at https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/sochi-fide-world-cup-2021/1/66/1

Kevin Bonham
13-07-2021, 01:41 AM
Nice finish here:

https://twitter.com/ChesscomNews/status/1414601723600048128

Direct link to game:

https://www.chess.com/events/2021-fide-world-cup/01-01/Andersen_Mads-Salinas_Herrera_Pablo

Kevin Bonham
13-07-2021, 10:25 AM
[Event "FIDE World Cup 2021"]
[Site "Krasnaya Polyana RUS"]
[Date "2021.07.12"]
[Round "1.1"]
[White "Sanal, Vahap"]
[Black "Cheng, Bobby"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteTitle "GM"]
[BlackTitle "GM"]
[WhiteElo "2556"]
[BlackElo "2552"]
[ECO "C11"]
[Opening "French defence"]
[WhiteFideId "6300545"]
[BlackFideId "4300033"]
[EventDate "2021.07.12"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 h6 5. Bxf6 Qxf6 6. exd5 Bb4 7. Bb5+ Bd7 8.
Bxd7+ Nxd7 9. dxe6 Qxe6+ 10. Qe2 Bxc3+ 11. bxc3 Qxe2+ 12. Nxe2 O-O-O 13. O-O-O
Nb6 14. Nf4 Rd6 15. Rhe1 Rhd8 16. Re5 Na4 17. Rd3 Rf6 18. Nh3 Rc6 19. Ree3 Nb6
20. Re7 g5 21. Rxf7 Nc4 22. Rf5 Re8 23. Rc5 Rxc5 24. dxc5 Re1+ 25. Rd1 Re2 26.
a4 c6 27. Rf1 Na3 28. Kb2 Nc4+ 29. Kc1 Na3 30. f4 Rxc2+ 31. Kd1 gxf4 32. Nxf4
Rxc3 33. Ne6 Kd7 34. Rf6 h5 35. Rh6 Rc2 36. Nf4 Rf2 37. Rh7+ Ke8 38. Nxh5 Rxg2
39. Nf6+ Kf8 40. Rxb7 Rxh2 41. Rxa7 Nc4 42. Kc1 Ne5 43. Kb1 Nc4 44. Rb7 Na5 45.
Ra7 Nc4 46. Nd7+ Ke8 47. Kc1 Kd8 48. Nb6 Rh5 49. Rd7+ Ke8 50. Rd4 Na5 51. Kb2
Rxc5 52. Rd3 Nc4+ 53. Nxc4 Rxc4 54. Kb3 Rc5 55. Kb4 Rd5 56. Rxd5 cxd5 57. Kc5
Kd7 58. Kxd5 Kc7 1/2-1/2

[Event "FIDE World Cup Women 2021"]
[Site "Krasnaya Polyana RUS"]
[Date "2021.07.12"]
[Round "1.1"]
[White "Ryjanova, Julia"]
[Black "Tsolakidou, Stavroula"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteTitle "WGM"]
[BlackTitle "IM"]
[WhiteElo "2299"]
[BlackElo "2389"]
[ECO "A09"]
[Opening "Reti opening"]
[WhiteFideId "4127714"]
[BlackFideId "4264312"]
[EventDate "2021.07.12"]

1. Nf3 d5 2. c4 c6 3. e3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. b3 Nbd7 6. d4 Bb4 7. Bd2 O-O 8. Qc2
Qe7 9. Be2 e5 10. a3 Bd6 11. dxe5 Nxe5 12. cxd5 Nxd5 13. Nxd5 cxd5 14. Nxe5 Bxe5
15. Bb4 Qf6 16. Rc1 Bf5 17. Qd2 Rfd8 18. O-O d4 19. Bf3 dxe3 20. Qxe3 Rd3 21.
Qe2 Re8 22. g3 Rdd8 23. Rfe1 Bd3 24. Qe3 Bb5 25. Rcd1 Bd4 26. Qf4 Qxf4 27. gxf4
Bb6 28. Rxd8 Rxd8 29. Bxb7 a5 30. Bc3 Rd3 31. Ba6 Rxc3 32. Bxb5 g6 33. Ba4 Rf3
34. Re2 Rxf4 35. Bc6 Bc5 36. a4 Rg4+ 37. Kf1 Rd4 38. Bb5 Rf4 39. Bc4 Kg7 40. Kg2
g5 41. f3 h6 42. Re5 Bb4 43. Rd5 Kg6 44. Rd7 h5 45. h3 Kg7 46. Rb7 Bc3 1/2-1/2

[Event "FIDE World Cup Women 2021"]
[Site "Krasnaya Polyana RUS"]
[Date "2021.07.12"]
[Round "1.1"]
[White "Drastik, Penelope"]
[Black "Sebag, Marie"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackTitle "GM"]
[WhiteElo "1835"]
[BlackElo "2438"]
[ECO "D43"]
[Opening "QGD semi-Slav"]
[WhiteFideId "3214850"]
[BlackFideId "617822"]
[EventDate "2021.07.12"]

Despite being massively outrated Penelope gave Sebag a good game here and for a few moves even apparently had the better position (but very complex) after Sebag's ...0-0-0 which appears to have been a mistake.

1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 dxc4 7.e4 g5 8.Bg3 b5 9.e5 Nd5 10.Nd2 h5 11.h4 g4 12.Nde4 Nd7 13.Be2 Bb7 14.Qd2 Nxc3 15.bxc3 c5 16.f3 cxd4 17.cxd4 Qb6 18.Rb1 0-0-0?! 19.Bxc4 b4 20.Nd6+ Bxd6 21.exd6 gxf3 22.gxf3 [22.Rxb4 fxg2 23.Rg1 Qc6 24.d5 Qc5 25.Rxg2 exd5 26.Bb5 white is much better according to Stockfish but still a pawn down and with a complex position so not straightforward.] 22...a5 23.a3 Rhg8 24.Kf2 Rxg3 25.Kxg3 Qxd6+ 26.Kf2 Nb6 27.Be2 Qxd4+ 28.Qxd4 Rxd4 29.Ke3 e5 30.Rhc1+ Kb8 31.axb4 axb4 32.Rc5 f6 33.Rg1 Nd5+ 34.Kf2 Nc3 35.Rg8+ [35.Rg7=] 35...Ka7 36.Rg7 Kb6 37.Rcc7 Bc6 38.Ke1 Rxh4 39.Ra7 Rh1+ 40.Kd2 Nxe2 41.Kxe2 b3 42.Ra3 Bb5+ 43.Ke3 b2 0-1

Desmond
13-07-2021, 11:11 AM
Very nice coodination of the R+N by Cheng. That knight on the rim was trim!

MichaelBaron
13-07-2021, 11:45 AM
[Event "FIDE World Cup 2021"]
[S

Excellent Defending by Julia. I must add that we played that line several times against each other in Allegros!
Also dubiously-looking but nice positional pawn sacrifice by Bobby!

ER
13-07-2021, 06:10 PM
Excellent Defending by Julia. I must add that we played that line several times against each other in Allegros!
Also dubiously-looking but nice positional pawn sacrifice by Bobby!

Thanks to Kevin for providing games and brief general comments and to Michael for the also brief yet essential commentary - expecting more as the elimination process continues.
There were mixed reactions regarding the American youngest ever GM Mishra R1 performance. What's your take guys?

Kevin Bonham
13-07-2021, 06:42 PM
There were mixed reactions regarding the American youngest ever GM Mishra R1 performance. What's your take guys?

The game (hadn't looked at it before):

[Event "FIDE World Cup 2021"]
[Site "Krasnaya Polyana RUS"]
[Date "2021.07.12"]
[Round "1.1"]
[White "Mishra, Abhimanyu"]
[Black "Jobava, Baadur"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteTitle "IM"]
[BlackTitle "GM"]
[WhiteElo "2504"]
[BlackElo "2603"]
[ECO "E11"]
[Opening "Bogo-Indian defence"]
[WhiteFideId "30920019"]
[BlackFideId "13601520"]
[EventDate "2021.07.12"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 Bb4+ 4.Bd2 Bxd2+ 5.Qxd2 d5 6.Nc3 0-0 7.e3 Qe7 8.Rc1 Rd8 9.cxd5 exd5 10.Bd3 Nc6 11.Bb5 Bd7 12.Bxc6 Bxc6 13.Ne5 Be8 14.0-0 c5 15.Qe2 Rac8 16.Rfd1 h6 17.f3 b6 18.Kh1 Rc7 19.g4 Nh7 20.f4 f6 21.Nf3 Bc6 22.Qf2 Qe8 23.Nh4 b5 24.Ne2 c4 25.b4 a5 26.a3 axb4 27.axb4 Qe7 28.Rb1 Bd7 29.Nc3 Bxg4 30.Rg1 h5 31.Rg3 g5 32.fxg5 fxg5 33.Ng6 Qe6 34.Ne5 Bf5 35.Rbg1 g4 36.h3 Rg7 37.R3g2 Rf8 38.Qh4 Nf6 39.Rf1 Ne4 40.Ne2 g3 41.Nxg3 Bxh3 42.Rxf8+ Kxf8 43.Rg1 Nxg3+ 44.Rxg3 Rxg3 45.Qxg3 Bg4 46.Qf4+ Qf5 47.Qh6+ Kg8 48.Kg2 Be2 49.Kg3 Bf1 50.Qc6 Qg5+ 51.Kf3 Qf5+ [51...Qg2+ 52.Kf4 Qe4+ 53.Kg5 Qxe3+ 54.Kxh5 Be2+ 55.Kg6 Qg3+ 56.Kf5 Qh3+ 57.Kf4 Qh4+ 58.Ke3 Qe4+ 59.Kf2 Qxd4+ 60.Kxe2 Qxe5+ winning] 52.Kg3 h4+ [52...Qg5+ 53.Kf3 Qg2+ see previous note] 53.Kxh4 Qh3+ 54.Kg5 Qxe3+ 55.Kf6?? [55.Kh4! draws eg 55...Qxd4+ 56.Ng4 c3 57.Qe8+ and perpetual] 55...Qh6+ 56.Ng6 Qg7+ 57.Kg5 Kh7 58.Qxd5 Qxg6+ 59.Kf4 Qh6+ 60.Kg3 Qe3+ 61.Kg4 Be2+ 62.Kf5 Qf3+ 0-1

So there was some messy stuff at the end where Jobava missed a win and then Mishra missed a draw, severe time trouble, tricky to calculate.

I do not get the move 25.b4. Why give black a protected passed pawn on the 5th that will kill you in a lot of endgames and (as it turned out) give yourself an isolated pawn in the process? Heck of a bet to say you can work your way around that. Almost got away with it though.

Desmond
13-07-2021, 07:27 PM
I do not get the move 25.b4. Why give black a protected passed pawn on the 5th that will kill you in a lot of endgames and (as it turned out) give yourself an isolated pawn in the process? Heck of a bet to say you can work your way around that. Almost got away with it though.I presume it's to prevent black going ...b4, thereby securing c3 for the white N.

ER
13-07-2021, 09:08 PM
(...)
So there was some messy stuff at the end where Jobava missed a win and then Mishra missed a draw, severe time trouble, tricky to calculate. (...)

thanks, messy indeed, I look forward to following tonight's encounter(s).
BTW it looks like the Australian representatives have equal chances to those of their opponents to advance!

Kevin Bonham
14-07-2021, 09:00 AM
Cheng match to playoff:

[Event "FIDE World Cup 2021"]
[Site "Krasnaya Polyana RUS"]
[Date "2021.07.13"]
[Round "1.2"]
[White "Cheng, Bobby"]
[Black "Sanal, Vahap"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteTitle "GM"]
[BlackTitle "GM"]
[WhiteElo "2552"]
[BlackElo "2556"]
[ECO "D37"]
[Opening "QGD"]
[Variation "classical variation (5.Bf4)"]
[WhiteFideId "4300033"]
[BlackFideId "6300545"]
[EventDate "2021.07.12"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. Nc3 Be7 5. Bf4 O-O 6. e3 b6 7. Bd3 c5 8. dxc5
bxc5 9. O-O Bb7 10. cxd5 exd5 11. Qb3 Qb6 12. Rfd1 Nbd7 13. Qxb6 axb6 14. Bb5
Rfd8 15. a4 Rac8 16. a5 bxa5 17. Rxa5 Ra8 18. Rxa8 Rxa8 19. Ne5 Nxe5 20. Bxe5
Rd8 21. h3 h5 22. Kf1 h4 23. Bc7 Ra8 24. Bf4 Rd8 25. Bg5 d4 26. Na4 Bd5 27. Rc1
Bb3 28. exd4 cxd4 29. Nb6 Be6 30. Bd3 Rb8 31. Rc6 Bd8 32. Na4 Bd5 33. Rc1 Nh5
34. Bd2 g6 35. b4 Ra8 36. Nc5 Ra2 37. Rc2 Ra1+ 38. Rc1 Ra2 39. Rc2 Ra1+ 40. Rc1 1/2-1/2

Ryjanova out after one-move blunder but was a pawn down at the time:

[Event "FIDE World Cup Women 2021"]
[Site "Krasnaya Polyana RUS"]
[Date "2021.07.13"]
[Round "1.2"]
[White "Tsolakidou, Stavroula"]
[Black "Ryjanova, Julia"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteTitle "IM"]
[BlackTitle "WGM"]
[WhiteElo "2389"]
[BlackElo "2299"]
[ECO "A62"]
[Opening "Benoni"]
[Variation "fianchetto variation"]
[WhiteFideId "4264312"]
[BlackFideId "4127714"]
[EventDate "2021.07.12"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.d5 exd5 5.cxd5 d6 6.Nc3 g6 7.Bg2 Bg7 8.Nf3 0-0 9.0-0 Re8 10.Re1 a6 11.a4 Nbd7 12.Bf4 Ng4 13.Rb1 Nde5 14.Ne4 h6 15.Nxe5 Nxe5 16.b4 c4 17.Qc1 f5 18.Nc3 g5 19.Bd2 Qf6 20.b5 axb5 21.Rxb5 Nd7 22.Rb4 Nc5 23.Rxc4 Bd7 24.Qc2 Rec8 25.Rc1 Qe7 26.Qb1 Rf8 27.Be3 b6 28.Bd4 Bxd4 29.Rxd4 Bxa4 30.Nxa4 Nxa4 31.e3 Nc5 32.Rb4 Nd7 33.Rc7 Qd8 34.Rc1 Qf6 35.f4 Rfc8 36.Rf1 g4 37.e4 fxe4 38.Rxe4 Nc5 39.Rb4 Nd7 40.Re4 Nc5 41.Rb4 Re8 42.Qd1 h5 43.Qd2 Nd7 44.Rbb1 Re7 45.Rfe1 Rae8 46.Re6 Rxe6 47.dxe6 Nc5 48.Qxd6 [48.Qd5 appears stronger] 48...Rxe6 49.Qd5 Kf8 50.Qxh5 Qd4+ 51.Kh1 Nd3 52.Bd5 Re2?? [52...Nf2+ 53.Kg2 Nd1 54.Qf5+ Rf6 55.Qc8+ Ke7 56.Qc7+ Ke8 57.Qe5+ Qxe5 58.fxe5 Ne3+ 59.Kg1 Rf5 etc with good drawing chances for black (I think!)] 53.Qf7# 1-0

Drastik out but now has a draw with a GM to her credit! White is better in the final position but decided to take the draw to advance.

[Event "FIDE World Cup Women 2021"]
[Site "Krasnaya Polyana RUS"]
[Date "2021.07.13"]
[Round "1.2"]
[White "Sebag, Marie"]
[Black "Drastik, Penelope"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteTitle "GM"]
[WhiteElo "2438"]
[BlackElo "1835"]
[ECO "B52"]
[Opening "Sicilian"]
[Variation "Canal-Sokolsky attack, Sokolsky variation"]
[WhiteFideId "617822"]
[BlackFideId "3214850"]
[EventDate "2021.07.12"]

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Bb5+ Bd7 4.Bxd7+ Qxd7 5.c4 Nf6 6.Nc3 g6 7.d4 cxd4 8.Nxd4 Bg7 9.f3 0-0 10.Be3 Rc8 11.b3 Nc6 12.0-0 Rab8 13.Qd3 a6 14.Nxc6 Qxc6 15.Rac1 Nd7 16.Nd5 Kf8 17.a4 Nc5 18.Qc2 b6 19.Rfd1 Qa8 20.Nc3 a5 21.Nb5 Qb7 22.Rb1 Na6 23.Qf2 Rd8 24.Rd2 Rd7 25.Qh4 Kg8 26.Qf2 Qc6 27.Nd4 Qc7 28.Nb5 Qc6 29.Nd4 Qc7 30.Nb5 Qc6 1/2-1/2

MichaelBaron
14-07-2021, 05:27 PM
I am surprised that Julia Played Benoni, must have been prepared exclusively for this event.

Desmond
14-07-2021, 08:35 PM
100 point upset in Rd1 to knock out a 2590. Seemed to be better for most of the game, with critical mistakes around move 42 & 43.

[Event "World Cup 2021"]
[Site "Sochi"]
[Date "2021.07.13"]
[Round "2.18"]
[White "Parligras Mircea-Emilian (ROU)"]
[Black "Druska Juraj (SVK)"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2591"]
[BlackElo "2493"]
[UTCDate "2021.07.13"]
[UTCTime "11:30:35"]
[Variant "Standard"]
[ECO "D31"]
[Opening "Queen's Gambit Declined: Queen's Knight Variation"]
[Annotator "https://lichess.org/@/broadcaster"]

1. d4 { [%clk 1:30:56] } 1... d5 { [%clk 1:30:41] } 2. c4 { [%clk 1:31:11] } 2... e6 { [%clk 1:30:59] } 3. Nc3 { [%clk 1:31:18] } 3... h6 { [%clk 1:30:48] } 4. Bf4 { [%clk 1:27:21] } 4... Bd6 { [%clk 1:30:56] } 5. Bg3 { [%clk 1:14:05] } 5... Nf6 { [%clk 1:31:10] } 6. e3 { [%clk 1:13:58] } 6... O-O { [%clk 1:31:15] } 7. Nf3 { [%clk 1:08:43] } 7... c5 { [%clk 1:31:24] } 8. cxd5 { [%clk 1:04:35] } 8... Nxd5 { [%clk 1:30:35] } 9. Nxd5 { [%clk 1:03:20] } 9... exd5 { [%clk 1:30:56] } 10. Bxd6 { [%clk 0:55:58] } 10... Qxd6 { [%clk 1:29:32] } 11. dxc5 { [%clk 0:56:19] } 11... Qxc5 { [%clk 1:29:58] } 12. Be2 { [%clk 0:52:48] } 12... Nc6 { [%clk 1:30:14] } 13. O-O { [%clk 0:52:57] } 13... Rd8 { [%clk 1:30:35] } 14. Qa4 { [%clk 0:49:58] } 14... d4 { [%clk 1:30:56] } 15. b4 { [%clk 0:44:54] } 15... Qxb4 { [%clk 0:59:11] } 16. Qxb4 { [%clk 0:45:12] } 16... Nxb4 { [%clk 0:59:39] } 17. Nxd4 { [%clk 0:45:29] } 17... Nc6 { [%clk 1:00:00] } 18. Nxc6 { [%clk 0:40:50] } 18... bxc6 { [%clk 1:00:27] } 19. Bf3 { [%clk 0:39:43] } 19... Bd7 { [%clk 0:42:09] } 20. Rfc1 { [%clk 0:37:38] } 20... Rdc8 { [%clk 0:42:12] } 21. Rc5 { [%clk 0:34:42] } 21... Rab8 { [%clk 0:42:12] } 22. Rac1 { [%clk 0:33:56] } 22... Rb2 { [%clk 0:36:25] } 23. a3 { [%clk 0:30:38] } 23... Ra2 { [%clk 0:22:54] } 24. Ra5 { [%clk 0:29:40] } 24... Rc7 { [%clk 0:22:16] } 25. h4 { [%clk 0:28:59] } 25... Kf8 { [%clk 0:16:33] } 26. Bd5 { [%clk 0:27:32] } 26... Rb2 { [%clk 0:16:43] } 27. Rac5 { [%clk 0:25:56] } 27... Rb6 { [%clk 0:17:04] } 28. e4 { [%clk 0:22:19] } 28... Ke7 { [%clk 0:15:11] } 29. e5 { [%clk 0:21:02] } 29... Rc8 { [%clk 0:14:57] } 30. Bc4 { [%clk 0:18:31] } 30... Rcb8 { [%clk 0:14:27] } 31. Rc3 { [%clk 0:17:43] } 31... g5 { [%clk 0:08:05] } 32. Rf3 { [%clk 0:11:49] } 32... Be8 { [%clk 0:07:16] } 33. Ra5 { [%clk 0:06:56] } 33... R8b7 { [%clk 0:07:41] } 34. hxg5 { [%clk 0:06:17] } 34... hxg5 { [%clk 0:08:01] } 35. Rg3 { [%clk 0:04:51] } 35... Rb1+ { [%clk 0:08:03] } 36. Kh2 { [%clk 0:05:16] } 36... Rc1 { [%clk 0:08:22] } 37. Ba6 { [%clk 0:05:07] } 37... Rc7 { [%clk 0:08:31] } 38. Rxg5 { [%clk 0:03:46] } 38... c5 { [%clk 0:08:55] } 39. f4 { [%clk 0:02:32] } 39... c4 { [%clk 0:08:44] } 40. f5 { [%clk 0:02:13] } 40... Rd1 { [%clk 0:01:26] } 41. Rg8 { [%clk 0:22:55] } 41... Bd7 { [%clk 0:26:56] } 42. f6+? { Mistake. Rg4 was best. } { [%clk 0:18:01] } (42. Rg4 Bxf5 43. Rxc4 Rc1 44. Rxc7+ Rxc7 45. Kg3 Be4 46. Be2 Ke6 47. Bg4+ Ke7 48. a4 Bc2) 42... Ke6 { [%clk 0:27:17] } 43. Rg4?? { Blunder. Rd8 was best. } { [%clk 0:18:18] } (43. Rd8) 43... Rd5 { [%clk 0:24:32] } 44. Bxc4 { [%clk 0:10:52] } 44... Rxc4 { [%clk 0:24:52] } 45. Ra6+ { [%clk 0:11:19] } 45... Rc6 { [%clk 0:25:17] } 46. Rxa7 { [%clk 0:11:46] } 46... Rxe5 { [%clk 0:25:00] } 47. a4 { [%clk 0:10:22] } 47... Rd6 { [%clk 0:21:51] } 48. a5 { [%clk 0:08:08] } 48... Rh5+ { [%clk 0:20:31] } 49. Kg1 { [%clk 0:08:15] } 49... Kxf6 { [%clk 0:20:28] } 50. Rg8 { [%clk 0:08:09] } 50... Be6 { [%clk 0:19:31] } 51. Rg3 { [%clk 0:07:44] } 51... Rd1+ { [%clk 0:19:04] } 52. Kf2 { [%clk 0:08:12] } 52... Ra1 { [%clk 0:16:12] } 53. Rf3+ { [%clk 0:08:35] } 53... Kg7 { [%clk 0:15:58] } 54. Rg3+ { [%clk 0:08:55] } 54... Kh7 { [%clk 0:16:00] } 55. a6 { [%clk 0:07:59] } 55... Rha5 { [%clk 0:16:05] } 56. Ra8 { [%clk 0:07:21] } 56... Rxa6 { [%clk 0:16:10] } 0-1

Kevin Bonham
14-07-2021, 11:01 PM
Great win by Bobby in playoff game 1. Opponent given no chance and nice finish!

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 Bb4+ 4.Nbd2 0-0 5.a3 Be7 6.e4 d6 7.Be2 Nfd7 8.0-0 e5 9.Nb1 exd4 10.Nxd4 Nc5 11.Nc3 a5 12.Be3 Bf6 13.Qc2 Nc6 14.Ndb5 Bxc3 15.Nxc3 Re8 16.Rad1 b6 17.f4 Bb7 18.Bf3 Qc8 19.Rfe1 a4 20.Nd5 Na5 21.e5 dxe5 22.fxe5 Nc6 23.Bf4 Ne6 24.Bg4 Ne7 25.Rf1 Ng6 26.Bg3 b5 27.cxb5 Bxd5 28.Rxd5 Qb7 29.Qc4 Qa7+ 30.Kh1 Re7 31.Rd3 Rf8 32.h4 Rb8 33.h5 Ngf8 34.Rd5 h6 35.Kh2 Nh7 36.Rxf7 Kxf7 37.Bxe6+ Ke8 38.Bf5 Ng5 39.Rd8+ Kxd8 40.Qd5+ 1-0

Kevin Bonham
15-07-2021, 12:25 AM
Bobby wins game 2 and through to play Aronian. Sanal was winning this one but trapped his own knight behind enemy lines. Oops.

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 h6 5.Bxf6 Qxf6 6.a3 c6 7.Nf3 Qd8 8.Bd3 Nd7 9.Qe2 Be7 10.0-0 0-0 11.Rfe1 Re8 12.Qe3 Qc7 13.h4 b6 14.e5 c5 15.Qf4 Qd8 16.Rad1 a5 17.Bb5 Rf8 18.Qg3 Ba6 19.Bxa6 Rxa6 20.Nb5 Qc8 21.a4 Ra8 22.c4 Qc6 23.cxd5 exd5 24.Qh3 Qe6 25.Qxe6 fxe6 26.Nc7 Rac8 27.Nxe6 Rf5 28.dxc5 bxc5 29.Rc1 Nb6 30.Rc3 Kf7 31.g4 Rxf3 32.Rxf3+ Kxe6 33.Rb3 Nc4 34.Rb7 Rf8 35.Kg2 Bxh4 36.Re2 d4 37.Rb3 Nxe5 38.Rb5 d3 39.Rd2 c4 40.Rxa5 Nxg4 41.Ra6+ Ke5 42.Kh3 Rxf2 43.Rd1 Kf4 44.Rh1 g5 45.Rd6 Rf3+ 46.Kg2 Ne3+ 0-1

Cheng vs Aronian tomorrow!

James Peirce
15-07-2021, 08:27 AM
29. Nxg7 Kxg7 30. Rxd5 Nb6 31. Rd3 Nxa4 (c4 32. Rd2 Nxa4 33. Nd4) 32. b3 Nb6 33. g4 looks like a decent alternative

ER
15-07-2021, 10:15 AM
29. Nxg7 Kxg7 30. Rxd5 Nb6 31. Rd3 Nxa4 (c4 32. Rd2 Nxa4 33. Nd4) 32. b3 Nb6 33. g4 looks like a decent alternative

what if 29. Nxg7 Rxf3 do I give up the exchange for two pieces? Not sure if your Rooks can cause and damage to my position after this?

I have not a chess engine running to get a clue!

Kevin Bonham
15-07-2021, 01:14 PM
White's problem is that he spent two moves (Rd1-c1-c3) getting his rook to the third rank when one (29.Rd3) would have been fine. After 29.Rd3, Kf7 does not win because 30.g4 Rxf3 31.Ng5+! and if black recaptures there will come e6+ and exd7. But in the game line the black knight has left d7 so this line no longer exists. If 29.Rd3 Nb6 then 30.Rb3 is now possible, and 30...Rc3 does not work because of 31.Ned4 winning the exchange. All very complex for a rapid game.

HAHAHAHA
15-07-2021, 06:17 PM
Bobby wins game 2 and through to play Aronian. Sanal was winning this one but trapped his own knight behind enemy lines. Oops.

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 h6 5.Bxf6 Qxf6 6.a3 c6 7.Nf3 Qd8 8.Bd3 Nd7 9.Qe2 Be7 10.0-0 0-0 11.Rfe1 Re8 12.Qe3 Qc7 13.h4 b6 14.e5 c5 15.Qf4 Qd8 16.Rad1 a5 17.Bb5 Rf8 18.Qg3 Ba6 19.Bxa6 Rxa6 20.Nb5 Qc8 21.a4 Ra8 22.c4 Qc6 23.cxd5 exd5 24.Qh3 Qe6 25.Qxe6 fxe6 26.Nc7 Rac8 27.Nxe6 Rf5 28.dxc5 bxc5 29.Rc1 Nb6 30.Rc3 Kf7 31.g4 Rxf3 32.Rxf3+ Kxe6 33.Rb3 Nc4 34.Rb7 Rf8 35.Kg2 Bxh4 36.Re2 d4 37.Rb3 Nxe5 38.Rb5 d3 39.Rd2 c4 40.Rxa5 Nxg4 41.Ra6+ Ke5 42.Kh3 Rxf2 43.Rd1 Kf4 44.Rh1 g5 45.Rd6 Rf3+ 46.Kg2 Ne3+ 0-1

Cheng vs Aronian tomorrow!

A massive well done to Bobby. Congrats for beating Sanal and best of luck for your match with Aronian. On ya Bobby.

Curious, is this the first time an Aussie (zone3.6) has progressed past the first round?

HAHAHAHA
15-07-2021, 06:25 PM
Bobby wins game 2 and through to play Aronian. Sanal was winning this one but trapped his own knight behind enemy lines. Oops.
Cheng vs Aronian tomorrow!

And its was a FRENCH. kudos to boot

Kevin Bonham
15-07-2021, 06:26 PM
Curious, is this the first time an Aussie (zone3.6) has progressed past the first round?

Gary Lane progressed to the second round by walkover in 2005.

I've put a list of Australian results up at http://www.chesschat.org/showthread.php?18534-Australian-results-at-FIDE-World-Cup-and-precursors

Not only is Bobby the first Australian to win a match in these things, he is the first to even win a game over the board. But until this year's format change it was much harder as the first round tended to see Australians paired against very strong opponents.

Garvinator
15-07-2021, 08:24 PM
Not only is Bobby the first Australian to win a match in these things, he is the first to even win a game over the board. But until this year's format change it was much harder as the first round tended to see Australians paired against very strong opponents.

I was sceptical about this format change when it was announced, but having now seen it in action, I think it is a very good change. Perhaps it could be improved slightly further by giving the top 64 players a bye through to the second round and having players 65 to 256 playing in the first round.

Kevin Bonham
15-07-2021, 09:10 PM
In the first round there were 6 upsets from 78 matches. None went to Armageddon though one went to the final blitz match.

In the women's there were 3 upsets from 39 matches and one match also went to the final blitz match but not Armageddon.

Bill Gletsos
15-07-2021, 09:58 PM
FIDE has just announced on Facebook that Aronian will forfeit game 1 of round 2.

GM Levon Aronian will forfeit the first game of the second round at the FIDE World Cup. The Armenian Grandmaster has had some symptoms of fever earlier this week. Even though Aronian feels well now, in order to not risk the safety of other players it has been decided that he will withdraw from the first game, and he will undergo additional health tests before deciding if he is fit to play in the second game.

Rated #5 in the world, Aronian was seeded directly into the second round of the tournament, which kicked off in Sochi (Russia) on July 12th.

Desmond
15-07-2021, 10:34 PM
I noticed in the live stream that a few players are wearing masks, but by far most are not.

Kevin Bonham
15-07-2021, 11:41 PM
Something weird going on with Caruana - Megaranto which is showing as a win for white on move 16 for no obvious reason. Report on Twitter of Caruana seen in the press room.

Kevin Bonham
15-07-2021, 11:49 PM
Something weird going on with Caruana - Megaranto which is showing as a win for white on move 16 for no obvious reason. Report on Twitter of Caruana seen in the press room.

The same account, a newly started account attributed to Theo Wait (Lichess) has said that Megaranto has tested positive to COVID and has been defaulted, so Caruana will have to isolate and be tested himself. [EDIT: default confirmed by FIDE]

Why are the players not all wearing masks?

Scott Colliver
16-07-2021, 12:00 AM
Surely a number of the players are now close contacts and should isolate while the rest a casual contacts and need to be tested. At least that would be the Australian standard if something like this happened.

Desmond
16-07-2021, 09:58 AM
The same account, a newly started account attributed to Theo Wait (Lichess) has said that Megaranto has tested positive to COVID and has been defaulted, so Caruana will have to isolate and be tested himself. [EDIT: default confirmed by FIDE]

Why are the players not all wearing masks?

Rather unfortunate. Sounds like he had a covid test prior to the game and it came back positive. Will the game be rated?

I reckon more masks will be worn tomorrow.

Kevin Bonham
16-07-2021, 10:38 AM
Rather unfortunate. Sounds like he had a covid test prior to the game and it came back positive. Will the game be rated?

I expect it would given that it had started but the Qualifications Commission has discretion to not rate games.

FIDE is saying that the health authority doing the testing is meant to notify results by 1 pm (games start at 2 pm) but in this case did not notify until 3:21 pm.

MichaelBaron
16-07-2021, 10:41 AM
They do the testing very reluctantly. They are concerned if many foreigners fall sick but as for locals...there is little concern and poor medical services.
Will be interesting to see what happens in an unfortunate event that more players will fall sick.

Kevin Bonham
16-07-2021, 11:53 AM
Elshan Moradiabadi (or Moradi Abadi) was one of the six players to score an upset match victory in round 1. He was beating MVL last night but took this draw while down to less than a minute. (The final position is winning, white just has to get out of check.)

[Event "FIDE World Cup 2021"]
[Site "Krasnaya Polyana RUS"]
[Date "2021.07.15"]
[Round "2.1"]
[White "Moradiabadi, Elshan"]
[Black "Vachier-Lagrave, Maxime"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteTitle "GM"]
[BlackTitle "GM"]
[WhiteElo "2553"]
[BlackElo "2749"]
[ECO "B67"]
[Opening "Sicilian"]
[Variation "Richter-Rauzer, Rauzer attack, 7...a6 defence, 8...Bd7"]
[WhiteFideId "12501255"]
[BlackFideId "623539"]
[EventDate "2021.07.12"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 a6 8.
O-O-O Bd7 9. f3 Nxd4 10. Qxd4 Be7 11. h4 h6 12. Be3 h5 13. Kb1 b5 14. Qd2 Qc7
15. Bd3 Rb8 16. Ne2 e5 17. Bg5 b4 18. Rc1 Be6 19. c4 Nd7 20. Be3 Nc5 21. Ng3 g6
22. Nf1 Nxd3 23. Qxd3 f5 24. Nd2 f4 25. Bf2 a5 26. g3 fxg3 27. Bxg3 O-O 28. Bf2
a4 29. Be3 Kh7 30. Qe2 Bf6 31. Qg2 Qf7 32. Bg5 Bg7 33. Qe2 Rfc8 34. Qd3 Rc6 35.
Rhf1 Rbc8 36. b3 Ra8 37. Kc2 d5 38. exd5 Bxd5 39. Kd1 Be6 40. Ne4 axb3 41. axb3
Bf5 42. Rf2 Rc7 43. Rd2 Rd7 44. Qe3 Rd4 45. Nd6 Qf8 46. Nxf5 Qxf5 47. Rxd4 exd4
48. Qe4 Qf8 49. c5 Re8 50. Qd3 Bf6 51. Bd2 Bxh4 52. c6 Qf7 53. Rc4 Bf2 54. Rxb4
Re7 55. Bg5 Ra7 56. Qe4 h4 57. Bxh4 Be3 58. Ke2 Qc7 59. Rb7 Rxb7 60. cxb7 Qh2+
61. Kd3 Qd2+ 62. Kc4 Qc3+ 63. Kb5 Qxb3+ 64. Kc6 Qc4+ 65. Kd7 Qb5+ 66. Qc6 Qf5+
67. Qe6 Qb5+ 68. Qc6 Qf5+ 69. Ke8 Qe5+ 1/2-1/2

Patrick Byrom
16-07-2021, 03:10 PM
... Why are the players not all wearing masks?Why are players not isolating until they receive their test results? Why are the players not been given the rapid antigen covid test?

MichaelBaron
16-07-2021, 07:34 PM
Why are players not isolating until they receive their test results? Why are the players not been given the rapid antigen covid test?

You seem to have forgotten the tournament is taking place in Russia organised by Russia...

ER
16-07-2021, 08:53 PM
Wish him well, he's a nice person.
https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1058339/

Scott Colliver
16-07-2021, 08:56 PM
Wish him well, he's a nice person.
https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1058339/

Hopefully he will recover quickly, it seems like he doesn't have COVID but something else at a very bad time.

Scott Colliver
16-07-2021, 08:58 PM
Bobby Cheng is through to the next round by forfeit. He will play the winner of the Kovalev - Sarana match. The first game was a draw and Kovalev has white in the second.

MichaelBaron
16-07-2021, 09:08 PM
Wish him well, he's a nice person.
https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1058339/

He is indeed a fantastic person, I will be furious if it turns out he got covid while at World cup - the organisers owe him and others duty of care

Patrick Byrom
16-07-2021, 09:27 PM
You seem to have forgotten the tournament is taking place in Russia organised by Russia...Doesn't FIDE impose its own conditions? And the rapid antigen tests only cost a few dollars, so the players could easily stock up on some themselves.

Scott Colliver
16-07-2021, 09:49 PM
The two Indonesian women, Irene Sukandar and Medina Warda Aulia have withdrawn even though both are feeling well and have passed all their tests

Garvinator
16-07-2021, 10:04 PM
The two Indonesian women, Irene Sukandar and Medina Warda Aulia have withdrawn even though both are feeling well and have passed all their tests

This would be the explanation for their withdrawal:


During the day, it was also known that Indonesian IM Mohamad Ervan had forfeited his first-round match against GM Nodirbek Abdusattorov after his mandatory test upon arrival had turned out positive. Ervan was one of four players who made their way to Sochi from Indonesia, together with Irene Sukandar, Medina Aulia and Susanto Megaranto.

Scott Colliver
16-07-2021, 10:18 PM
This would be the explanation for their withdrawal:

Obviously

Kevin Bonham
16-07-2021, 10:43 PM
Quick 24 move draw between Kovalev and Sarana so playoff for them tomorrow.

Scott Colliver
17-07-2021, 01:54 AM
IM Ravi Haria defeats Bacrot who played the exchange French but then got totally outplayed in the endgame.

Gambyte
17-07-2021, 09:26 AM
Interview with Bobby Cheng https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr_iULH6bhY

Scott Colliver
17-07-2021, 09:46 AM
Thank you for posting the interview

ER
17-07-2021, 11:15 AM
Interview with Bobby Cheng https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr_iULH6bhY

excellent, thanks!

Garvinator
17-07-2021, 02:40 PM
Kevin Bonham shows once again that when he picks someone to win an event, that player is destined to lose in even more varied ways than previously done.

Desmond
17-07-2021, 04:26 PM
Quite a few big upsets in Rd2 even before playoff phase:

GM Alekseenko 2699 0.5 knocked out by GM Krasenkow 2591 1.5.
GM Sargissian 2682 0 knocked out by GM Praggnanandhaa 2608 2.
GM Kryvoruchko 2699 0.5 knocked out by GM Brkic 2592 1.5.
GM Vallejo Pons 2710 0.5 knocked out by GM Ivic 2581 1.5.

Kevin Bonham
17-07-2021, 06:45 PM
Kevin Bonham shows once again that when he picks someone to win an event, that player is destined to lose in even more varied ways than previously done.

Yes in this case I've even managed to tip a player in such a way that they trigger the COVID replacement clause I came up with but in a way that renders it unusable, so I'm quite impressed with my effort there.


Because of COVID, if a voter has voted for a player and that player withdraws before the poll closes or the player has played any games then that voter may cast a replacement vote by posting on the thread before the poll closes.

Aronian withdrew before playing any games but after the poll closed. :wall:

Kevin Bonham
17-07-2021, 07:07 PM
IM Ravi Haria defeats Bacrot who played the exchange French but then got totally outplayed in the endgame.

Yes that one's quite interesting; he manages to lose a pawn up with the "better" pawn structure, partly because his bishop is useless.

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.Nf3 Bd6 5.Bd3 Ne7 6.0-0 Nbc6 7.Nc3 Bg4 8.Nb5 f6 9.c3 Qd7 10.b4 0-0 11.Nxd6 Qxd6 12.a4 Rfe8 13.Ba3 Qd7 14.h3 Bf5 15.Re1 Bxd3 16.Qxd3 Ng6 17.b5 Na5 18.Nd2 Nf4 19.Qf3 g5 20.Bb4 Nc4 21.Nxc4 dxc4 22.Qxb7 Qd5 23.Qxd5+ Nxd5 24.Kf1 Kf7 25.Rxe8 Rxe8 26.Re1 Rd8 27.Rb1 Re8 28.g3 h5 29.Re1 Rd8 30.Re4 c6 31.bxc6 Rc8 32.h4 g4 33.Re2 Rxc6 34.a5 a6 35.Rb2 Rc7 36.Bd6 Rd7 37.Bc5 Nxc3 38.Rc2 Ne4 39.Ke2 c3 40.Ke3 f5 41.Rc1 Rb7 42.Bb6 Ke6 43.Kd3 Kd5 44.Kc2 f4 0-1

Firouzja lucky to survive yesterday's game.

Scott Colliver
17-07-2021, 09:34 PM
Yes in this case I've even managed to tip a player in such a way that they trigger the COVID replacement clause I came up with but in a way that renders it unusable, so I'm quite impressed with my effort there.


Because of COVID, if a voter has voted for a player and that player withdraws before the poll closes or the player has played any games then that voter may cast a replacement vote by posting on the thread before the poll closes.

Aronian withdrew before playing any games but after the poll closed. :wall:

But it is certainly not clear that Aronian withdrew because of COVID, he said he had a fever and tonsillitis not COVID.

Kevin Bonham
17-07-2021, 09:42 PM
But it is certainly not clear that Aronian withdrew because of COVID, he said he had a fever and tonsillitis not COVID.

Indeed, there's no known evidence of it being COVID. But I thought because of COVID that withdrawals because of illness would be unusually likely.

Scott Colliver
17-07-2021, 09:51 PM
Indeed, there's no known evidence of it being COVID. But I thought because of COVID that withdrawals because of illness would be unusually likely.

True, Aronian might have played if we were not in COVID heightened sensitivity to illness.

Kevin Bonham
18-07-2021, 12:43 AM
Dominguez and Maghsoodloo out, the former to a player I don't believe I've heard of, Jakhongir Vakhidov (UZB).

Am watching the Sarana - Kovalev playoff and in rapid 2 they just had an 88-move draw that they probably both could have won so on they go.

MichaelBaron
18-07-2021, 12:54 AM
Dominguez and Maghsoodloo out, the former to a player I don't believe I've heard of, Jakhongir Vakhidov (UZB).

Am watching the Sarana - Kovalev playoff and in rapid 2 they just had an 88-move draw that they probably both could have won so on they go.

The longer they torture each other - the better it is for Bobby! Hope Kovalev wins as it is probably easier for Bobby to play him rather than Sarana.

Scott Colliver
18-07-2021, 12:56 AM
The longer they torture each other - the better it is for Bobby! Hope Kovalev wins as it is probably easier for Bobby to play him rather than Sarana.

Hopefully the winner is exhausted while well rested Bobby can prepare.

Kevin Bonham
18-07-2021, 03:01 AM
Hope Kovalev wins as it is probably easier for Bobby to play him rather than Sarana.

And Kovalev does win - though only after defending KR vs KRB for so long that the arbiter stepped in and declared the game drawn under the 75 move rule!

Firouzja out.

Scott Colliver
18-07-2021, 03:01 AM
Kovalev draws a R v R+B to win the match and will play Cheng

Kevin Bonham
18-07-2021, 02:28 PM
Very silly Armageddon finish at the end of the women's last night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otSiTlwTAnc

(around 6:19 it starts going off the rails.)

Scott Colliver
18-07-2021, 03:15 PM
Very silly Armageddon finish at the end of the women's last night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otSiTlwTAnc

(around 6:19 it starts going off the rails.)

Playing without increment encourages this kind of thing to happen.

Perhaps play with increment but not sure what is fair, perhaps a different increment for black than with white. 5+5 vs 4+3 for example.

Or just drop the armegeddon and play blitz until the tie is broken. Even go to 3+2 blitz until finished.

Desmond
18-07-2021, 04:52 PM
Dominguez and Maghsoodloo out, the former to a player I don't believe I've heard of, Jakhongir Vakhidov (UZB).
And the only player through to round 3 rated below Cheng. Still a few other 25xx in the mix.

Garvinator
18-07-2021, 04:53 PM
Playing without increment encourages this kind of thing to happen.

Perhaps play with increment but not sure what is fair, perhaps a different increment for black than with white. 5+5 vs 4+3 for example.

Or just drop the armegeddon and play blitz until the tie is broken. Even go to 3+2 blitz until finished.

Ever since Armageddon was introduced, I have always argued that in any important event where the next round start time is not fixed ie almost every tournament that uses tie break formats, then it is better to use two game mini blitz matches of 3 mins + 2 secs. The organisers could even stipulate that after, lets say, 2 mini blitz matches, that the first player to win 1 blitz game at 3 + 2 wins, colours alternate for each game.

Kevin Bonham
18-07-2021, 06:00 PM
The problem with any alternative is there always could be pairs of players who will more or less endlessly draw (perhaps because they both have boring opening repertoires) and so without armageddon there's no guarantee a match will end without going on and on and on. Effective "golden goal" type rules (first winner wins from a certain point) might have perverse effects as in soccer: players might be less inclined to play for wins because of the risk of immediately losing the match.

I'm also not sure the early rounds of the World Cup or even any stage of it are an important enough event for Armageddon to be avoided. A knockout with short matches has a large chance element anyway.

This one got silly because of the usual issue of time scrambles where players repeatedly break the rules but nothing happens, partly because players do not stop the clock and complain. In this case white twice moves the queen and presses the clock but has not placed the queen firmly on the board, so that it falls over and then white is correcting it on black's time. This is a breach of rule 7.4.1 and is unfair to black who is entitled to stop the clock and complain. But shouldn't the arbiter be interfering anyway?

Kevin Bonham
18-07-2021, 10:43 PM
Botvinnik Variation on the board in Vitiugov - Shirov! It's 1997 all over again ...

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/sochi-fide-world-cup-2021/3/29/1

Kevin Bonham
18-07-2021, 10:50 PM
Kovalev's 11...Nd5 is a novelty at this level; previously he played 11...Nc6 twice. After black's 13th there is still a 2000-level game they are (probably unwittingly) following.

Kevin Bonham
18-07-2021, 11:09 PM
Bobby spent just over half an hour on 14.e3.

Lekko
19-07-2021, 01:09 AM
Did mamedyarov resign after Rc1?

Metro
19-07-2021, 02:46 AM
Dominguez and Maghsoodloo out, the former to a player I don't believe I've heard of, Jakhongir Vakhidov (UZB).
He played in the Asian Hybrid this year http://chess-results.com/tnr561222.aspx?lan=1&art=9&fed=UZB&flag=30&snr=11

MichaelBaron
19-07-2021, 03:00 AM
Unfortunately Kovalev won with black.

Desmond
19-07-2021, 09:33 AM
Dominguez and Maghsoodloo out, the former to a player I don't believe I've heard of, Jakhongir Vakhidov (UZB).
Vakhidov 2534 1-0 Ponkratov 2627
Nice use of space advantage.

Desmond
19-07-2021, 10:49 AM
It was a good day for the 25xx, 3.5/7 despite being 100 points outrated on many boards:

GM Vakhidov, Jakhongir 2534 1-0 GM Ponkratov, Pavel 2627
GM Cori, Jorge 2652 1/2-1/2 GM Sindarov, Javokhir 2558
GM Korobov, Anton 2683 1-0 GM Georgiev, Kiril 2594
GM Cheng, Bobby 2552 0-1 GM Kovalev, Vladislav 2637
GM Ivic, Velimir 2581 1-0 GM Bluebaum, Matthias 2669
GM Brkic, Ante 2592 1-0 GM Salem, A.R. Saleh 2682
GM Praggnanandhaa R 2608 1-0 GM Krasenkow, Michal 2591

Kevin Bonham
19-07-2021, 04:43 PM
I found this fascinating. Black misses a useful check that would have reduced white's king's options on move 50 and is lost all the way to the finish line (I think.)

[Event "FIDE World Cup 2021"]
[Site "Krasnaya Polyana RUS"]
[Date "2021.07.18"]
[Round "3.1"]
[White "Grandelius, Nils"]
[Black "Xiong, Jeffery"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteTitle "GM"]
[BlackTitle "GM"]
[WhiteElo "2661"]
[BlackElo "2709"]
[ECO "B30"]
[Opening "Sicilian"]
[Variation "Nimzovich-Rossolimo attack (without ...d6)"]
[WhiteFideId "1710400"]
[BlackFideId "2047640"]
[EventDate "2021.07.12"]

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 e6 4.0-0 Nge7 5.c3 a6 6.Ba4 b5 7.Bc2 Bb7 8.Re1 d5 9.a4 b4 10.d4 cxd4 11.cxd4 dxe4 12.Bxe4 Nd5 13.Bg5 Be7 14.Bxe7 Ncxe7 15.Nbd2 0-0 16.Nb3 Ra7 17.Rc1 Ba8 18.Ne5 Nf6 19.Bxa8 Qxa8 20.Qf3 Qxf3 21.Nxf3 Nfd5 22.Kf1 Rfa8 23.Ne5 Kf8 24.Rc5 Nb6 25.a5 Nd7 26.Rc4 Rb8 27.Rec1 Nxe5 28.dxe5 g5 29.Rc7 Rbb7 30.Rxb7 Rxb7 31.Rc5 Ke8 32.Ke2 Kd8 33.Nd2 b3 34.Ne4 h6 35.Nd6 Rb4 36.Nxf7+ Kd7 37.Nd6 Nc6 38.Nc4 Rb5 39.Rxb5 axb5 40.Nd6 Nxa5 41.Kd3 Kc6 42.Kd4 Kb6 43.Nf7 Nc6+ 44.Ke4 Kc5 45.Nxh6 Na5 46.Nf7 Nc4 47.Nxg5 Nxb2 48.Nxe6+ Kc4 49.Nd4 Na4 50.Nxb3 Kxb3? [50...Nc3+ 51.Ke3 Kxb3 52.h4 b4 53.h5 Kc4 54.h6 b3 55.h7 b2 56.h8=Q Nd5+! (56...b1=Q 57.Qc8+ winning) 57.Kf3 b1Q draw] 51.Kd4 b4 52.e6 Nc3 53.e7 Nb5+ 54.Kc5 Nc7 55.Kc6 Ne8 56.Kd7 Nf6+ 57.Ke6 [Somewhat simpler is 57.Kd8! Ka3 58.g4 b3 59.g5 b2 60.gxf6 b1=Q 61.e8=Q winning] 57...Ne8 58.f4? Kc4 59.f5 b3 60.f6 b2 61.f7 Ng7+ 62.Kf6 b1=Q 63.f8=Q Qf5+ 64.Kxg7 Qg5+ 65.Kh7 Qh5+ 66.Qh6 Qf7+ 67.Kh8 Qe8+ 68.Qf8 Qh5+ 69.Kg7 Qg5+ 70.Kh7 Qh5+ 71.Qh6 Qf7+ 72.Kh8 Qe8+ 73.Kg7 Qxe7+ 74.Kg8 Qe8+ 75.Qf8 Qg6+ 76.Qg7 Qe8+ 77.Kh7 Qh5+ 78.Qh6 Qf7+ 79.Kh8 Qe8+ 80.Kg7 Qe7+ 81.Kg6 Qe4+ 82.Kh5 Qe2+ 83.Kh4 Qf2+ 84.Kh3 Qf5+ 85.Kg3 Qd3+ 86.Kg4 Qd7+ 87.Kh4 Qe7+ 88.Qg5 Qh7+ 89.Qh5 Qe7+ 90.Kh3 Kb3 91.Qf3+ Ka4 92.g4 Ka5 93.Kg2 Ka6 94.h3 Qd8 95.Qe2+ Kb7 96.Qe4+ Ka6 97.Qe6+ Kb7 98.Qf7+ Ka6 99.Qf1+ Kb7 100.Qe2 Kb8 101.Qe5+ Ka8 102.g5 Qd2+ 103.Kg3 Qd3+ 104.Kg4 Qd7+ 105.Qf5 Qd4+ 106.Qf4 Qd7+ 107.Kg3 Qe6 108.h4 Kb7 109.Qf3+ Kc7 110.h5 Kd6 111.h6 Qe1+ 112.Kh3 Qb1 113.Kg4 Ke7 114.Kh5 Ke8 115.Qc6+ Ke7 116.Qf6+ Kd7 117.Qf7+ Kc8 118.h7 Qd1+ 119.Kg6 Qd6+ 120.Qf6 1-0

Kevin Bonham
20-07-2021, 12:23 AM
[Event "FIDE World Cup 2021"]
[Site "Krasnaya Polyana RUS"]
[Date "2021.07.18"]
[Round "3.1"]
[White "Cheng, Bobby"]
[Black "Kovalev, Vladislav"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteTitle "GM"]
[BlackTitle "GM"]
[WhiteElo "2552"]
[BlackElo "2637"]
[ECO "E06"]
[Opening "Catalan"]
[Variation "closed, 5.Nf3"]
[WhiteFideId "4300033"]
[BlackFideId "13504398"]
[EventDate "2021.07.12"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Be7 4. g3 d5 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O dxc4 7. Ne5 c5 8. dxc5
Qc7 9. Nxc4 Rd8 10. Qa4 Qxc5 11. Nc3 Nd5 12. Rd1 Bd7 13. Qb3 Nc6 14. e3 Nxc3 15.
bxc3 Na5 16. Nxa5 Qxa5 17. a4 Be8 18. Bd2 Rab8 19. Be1 Rxd1 20. Qxd1 Qc7 21. Qb3
b6 22. c4 a5 23. Bc3 Rd8 24. Be4 Bc5 25. Qc2 h6 26. Qb2 f6 27. Qc2 Rd6 28. h4
Qf7 29. Rb1 Qd7 30. Ra1 Bh5 31. Bg6 Bf3 32. Rb1 Kf8 33. Kh2 f5 34. Bd4 Bxd4 35.
exd4 Be4 36. Qc1 Bxb1 37. Qxb1 Rxd4 38. Qxb6 Rxc4 39. h5 Ke7 40. Qb8 Rc2 41. Qe5
Rxf2+ 42. Kh3 Qd2 43. Qxg7+ Kd6 44. Qf8+ Kd5 45. Qa8+ Kd4 46. Qa7+ Kd3 47. Qa6+
Kc2 48. Qc6+ Kd1 0-1

Game 2 now in progress.

Scott Colliver
20-07-2021, 02:50 AM
Bobby drew so is out.

Caruana lost and is also out.

Metro
20-07-2021, 03:03 AM
Caruana lost and is also out.
That has to be painful.GM Jumabayev 2637, world ranking 124.

James Peirce
20-07-2021, 08:26 AM
Amazing, 2/3 of my picks (Caruana and Firoujza) are already out :lol:

Desmond
20-07-2021, 09:39 AM
It was a good day for the 25xx, 3.5/7 despite being 100 points outrated on many boards:

GM Vakhidov, Jakhongir 2534 1-0 GM Ponkratov, Pavel 2627
Vakhidov lost with black so goes to tiebreak.


GM Cori, Jorge 2652 1/2-1/2 GM Sindarov, Javokhir 2558
Sindarov won with white and progresses!


GM Korobov, Anton 2683 1-0 GM Georgiev, Kiril 2594
Kiril drew with white and is eliminated.

GM Cheng, Bobby 2552 0-1 GM Kovalev, Vladislav 2637
Cheng drew with black and is eliminated. :(

GM Ivic, Velimir 2581 1-0 GM Bluebaum, Matthias 2669
Ivic drew with black and progresses!

GM Brkic, Ante 2592 1-0 GM Salem, A.R. Saleh 2682
Brkic won with black and progresses!

GM Praggnanandhaa R 2608 1-0 GM Krasenkow, Michal 2591
Krasenkow won on demand with white, and goes to tiebreak.

25xx with 4.5/7! An even better day.

Kevin Bonham
20-07-2021, 11:54 AM
Krasenkow equalised because in the middle of playing some kind of all time brilliancy of adventurous king placement, Pragg blundered catastrophically:

Krasenkow,Michal (2591) - Praggnanandhaa,R (2608) [D24]
FIDE World Cup 2021 Krasnaya Polyana RUS (3.2), 19.07.2021

1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 Nf6 3.c4 dxc4 4.Nc3 a6 5.e4 b5 6.e5 Nd5 7.a4 e6 8.axb5 Bb4 9.Qc2 Nb6 10.Qe4 Qd5 11.Qg4 axb5 12.Rxa8 Qxa8 13.Qxg7 Bxc3+ 14.bxc3 Qa1 15.Qxh8+ Kd7 16.Be2 Qxc1+ 17.Bd1 Qxc3+ 18.Nd2 Nc6 19.Qxh7 Nxd4 20.Qxf7+ Kc6 21.Qf4 Nd5 22.Qe4 Kc5 23.h4 Bb7 24.h5 Nb4 25.0-0 Qxd2 26.Qxb7 Nd5 27.h6 c3 28.h7 Qh6 29.Qa7+ Kc4 30.Bg4 [White can draw by 30.Qa2+ Kc5 31.Qa7+ but that's no good to him as he will be eliminated.] 30...c2 31.Qa2+ Kb4 32.Qb2+ Kc4 33.Re1 Nf4?? [33...Qxh7 and an example line is 34.Be2+ Kc5 35.Qa3+ Kb6 36.Bd3 Qe7 37.Qa8 Nc3 38.Qb8+ Kc6 39.Qa8+ Kd7 and now white must lose material to stop the pawn. Even 40.Bxc2 is no good because 40...Nxc2 dominates the rook since 41.Rf1 Ne2+ 42.Kh1 Qh4#] 34.h8=Q Qxh8 35.Re4 c5 36.Rxf4 Qxe5 37.Qxc2+ Kd5 38.Qd2 c4 39.Rxd4+ Qxd4 40.Bxe6+ Kc5 41.Qxd4+ Kxd4 42.g4 Ke5 43.Bf7 Kf4 44.f3 1-0

Kevin Bonham
20-07-2021, 02:24 PM
Kovalev - Cheng

1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 cxd5 4.Bd3 Nc6 5.c3 Qc7 6.h3 e6 7.Nf3 Bd6 8.0-0 Nge7 9.Re1 0-0 10.b3 b6 11.Na3 a6 12.Nc2 b5 13.Qe2 Ng6 14.Bd2 Nf4 15.Bxf4 Bxf4 16.Ne3 Bb7 17.Ng4 Rfe8 18.Qc2 h5 19.Ne3 Rac8 20.Qe2 Qd8 21.Rac1 Kf8 22.g3 Bh6 23.Nh4 b4 24.Qxh5 bxc3 25.Rxc3 Nxd4 26.Rxc8 Bxc8 27.Nf3 Qf6 28.Nxd4 Qxd4 29.Qe2 Bxe3 30.Qxe3 Qxe3 31.fxe3 Ke7 32.Rc1 Kd6 33.b4 e5 34.h4 Bb7 35.Kf2 Re6 36.Be2 d4 37.exd4 exd4 38.Rc5 Re3 39.Ra5 Rc3 40.Bxa6 Rc2+ 41.Ke1 Be4 42.Ra3 Rb2 43.Bc4 Rxb4 44.Ra6+ Kc5 45.Bb3 Rb7 46.Kd2 f5 47.Ra5+ Kd6 48.Ra6+ Kc5 49.Ra5+ Kd6 50.Ra6+ Kc5 -

MichaelBaron
20-07-2021, 03:17 PM
Kovalev - Cheng

1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 cxd5 4.Bd3 Nc6 5.c3 Qc7 6.h3 e6 7.Nf3 Bd6 8.0-0 Nge7 9.Re1 0-0 10.b3 b6 11.Na3 a6 12.Nc2 b5 13.Qe2 Ng6 14.Bd2 Nf4 15.Bxf4 Bxf4 16.Ne3 Bb7 17.Ng4 Rfe8 18.Qc2 h5 19.Ne3 Rac8 20.Qe2 Qd8 21.Rac1 Kf8 22.g3 Bh6 23.Nh4 b4 24.Qxh5 bxc3 25.Rxc3 Nxd4 26.Rxc8 Bxc8 27.Nf3 Qf6 28.Nxd4 Qxd4 29.Qe2 Bxe3 30.Qxe3 Qxe3 31.fxe3 Ke7 32.Rc1 Kd6 33.b4 e5 34.h4 Bb7 35.Kf2 Re6 36.Be2 d4 37.exd4 exd4 38.Rc5 Re3 39.Ra5 Rc3 40.Bxa6 Rc2+ 41.Ke1 Be4 42.Ra3 Rb2 43.Bc4 Rxb4 44.Ra6+ Kc5 45.Bb3 Rb7 46.Kd2 f5 47.Ra5+ Kd6 48.Ra6+ Kc5 49.Ra5+ Kd6 50.Ra6+ Kc5 -

Good effort by Bobby he did manage to complicate things as black!

Kevin Bonham
20-07-2021, 06:07 PM
Giri, Mamedyarov and MVL all in playoffs tonight.

Kevin Bonham
20-07-2021, 11:07 PM
Giri loses first rapid with white, must win with black.

Scott Colliver
20-07-2021, 11:20 PM
Giri loses first rapid with white, must win with black.

And Mamedyarov does the same

Kevin Bonham
21-07-2021, 12:16 AM
Mamedyarov out. I expect his Armenian opponent will at least get a ticker-tape parade for that one.

Scott Colliver
21-07-2021, 12:42 AM
Giri out as well.

MVL lost his second game so that one continues

Kevin Bonham
21-07-2021, 12:44 AM
It's only round three (the old round two) and machomortensen with his team of Carlsen, Karjakin and Dubov is the only tipster with three tips intact. :lol:

Scott Colliver
21-07-2021, 12:58 AM
That was a very decisive round of tie breaks in the open side, only 2 matches left, whereas on the women's side 3 of the 4 are still going.

MichaelBaron
21-07-2021, 03:10 AM
some exciting tiebreaks to watch. Even top players struggle in endgames under pressure.

MichaelBaron
21-07-2021, 03:51 AM
and Lagrave gets an easy game in armageddon after all the dramas in the previous games.

Desmond
21-07-2021, 11:49 AM
Vakhidov lost with black so goes to tiebreak.
Sindarov won with white and progresses!
Kiril drew with white and is eliminated.
Cheng drew with black and is eliminated. :(
Ivic drew with black and progresses!
Brkic won with black and progresses!
Krasenkow won on demand with white, and goes to tiebreak.

25xx with 4.5/7! An even better day.

Both the 25xx players in tiebreaks lost. Still, 3 25xx through to round 4 is quite incredible. They've got pretty good pairings in Rd4 too:

GM Piorun, Kacper 2608 - GM Sindarov, Javokhir 2558
GM Ivic, Velimir 2581 - GM Andreikin, Dmitry 2724
GM Brkic, Ante 2592 - GM Martirosyan, Haik M. 2648

MichaelBaron
21-07-2021, 12:50 PM
Both the 25xx players in tiebreaks lost. Still, 3 25xx through to round 4 is quite incredible. They've got pretty good pairings in Rd4 too:

GM Piorun, Kacper 2608 - GM Sindarov, Javokhir 2558
GM Ivic, Velimir 2581 - GM Andreikin, Dmitry 2724
GM Brkic, Ante 2592 - GM Martirosyan, Haik M. 2648

Martirosyan and Andreikin are favourites (particularly Andreikin who is quite consistent). Piorun -Sindarov promises to be very interesting.

Scott Colliver
21-07-2021, 03:27 PM
We will also get our first 2700+ match ups.

Dubov - Esipenko
Vidit - Xiong
Karjakin - Artemiev
Vitiugiv - Svidler

Kevin Bonham
23-07-2021, 11:31 AM
Tabatabaei beating Harikrishna the only significant upset in round 4.1 of the open. In the Women's Goryachkina lost to Stefanova and also Dzagnidze to Shuvalova though the latter is barely an upset in ratings terms. All these losses were with black.

Kevin Bonham
23-07-2021, 11:59 PM
Esipenko - Dubov endgame fail as mentioned by Scott in the live top ratings thread. The RP vs NP ending is tricky, going from drawn to won to drawn, but with more patience he wouldn't have been there anyway.

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.d3 Be7 5.0-0 0-0 6.Nc3 d6 7.a3 h6 8.Re1 Re8 9.h3 Be6 10.Bxe6 fxe6 11.Ne2 a5 12.a4 Rf8 13.Ng3 Qe8 14.c3 Nd7 15.Be3 Qg6 16.Qb3 Rab8 17.d4 Kh7 18.Kh2 exd4 19.cxd4 d5 20.exd5 exd5 21.Qxd5 Bd6 22.Nh4 Qf7 23.Qxf7 Rxf7 24.Kg1 b5 25.Rec1 Bxg3 26.fxg3 Ne7 27.Bf4 Nd5 28.Bxc7 Rb7 29.Be5 bxa4 30.Rxa4 Rxb2 31.Rxa5 N7b6 32.Ra3 Re2 33.Rf3 Ra7 34.Rf2 Rxf2 35.Kxf2 Ra2+ 36.Kg1 Nd7 37.Re1 g5 38.Nf3 Kg6 39.Bd6 N7f6 40.g4 Rc2 41.Be5 Ra2 42.Kf1 Nc3 43.Bxf6 Kxf6 44.Re5 Ra1+ 45.Kf2 Ra2+ 46.Ke3 Rxg2 47.Kd3 Nd1 48.d5 Rg3 49.Re6+ Kf7 50.Ke2 Nc3+ 51.Kf2 Rxh3 52.Ne5+ Kg7 53.d6 Rh2+ 54.Kf3 Rd2 55.d7 Nb5 56.Rg6+ Kf8 57.Rxh6 Ke7 58.Rh7+ Ke6 59.Rh8 [59.Ke3 wins eg 59...Rd5 60.Nd3 Nd6 61.Nc5+ Ke5 62.Kf3 Nc4 63.Rh8] 59...Kxe5 60.Re8+ Kf6 61.d8=Q+ Rxd8 62.Rxd8 Ke5 63.Rg8 Nd4+ [63...Kf6 draws] 64.Ke3 Nc2+ 65.Kd2 Nd4 66.Kd3 Ne6 67.Ke3 Kf6 68.Ke4 Nc5+ 69.Kd5? [69.Kd4 wins eg 69...Ne6+ 70.Ke3 Kf7 71.Ra8 Kf6 72.Ra5 Nf8 73.Ke4 Ne6 74.Ra3 Nd8 75.Ra6+ Ke7 76.Kf5] 69...Nd7 The point appears to be that white has no useful rook moves - they all either expose the rook to attack followed by the N going to f6 or else the N reaches the ideal area for a fortress via e5 70.Kd6 Ne5 71.Rf8+ Nf7+ 72.Kd5 Kg7 73.Ra8 Nh6 The ideal square! 74.Ra4 Kf6 75.Rb4 Kf7 76.Ke5 Kg6 77.Ke6 Kg7 78.Rc4 Kg6 79.Re4 Kg7 80.Kd5 Kf6 81.Kd4 Nf7 82.Ke3 Nh6 83.Ra4 Kg6 84.Kf3 Kf6 85.Ra6+ Kg7 86.Ke4 Nxg4 87.Kf5 Nh6+ 88.Kxg5 Nf7+ 89.Kf5 Nh6+ 90.Rxh6 Kxh6 draw

Kevin Bonham
24-07-2021, 12:23 AM
In the Women's Goryachkina lost to Stefanova and also Dzagnidze to Shuvalova though the latter is barely an upset in ratings terms.

Dzagnidze won game 2 easily so playoff for that one.

Bobby Cheng's conquerer Kovalev lost pretty badly with black against Fedoseev and is now getting horribly crushed with white as well so looks like he will be eliminated. [edit: and is]

Kevin Bonham
24-07-2021, 12:48 AM
[Event "FIDE World Cup 2021"]
[Site "Krasnaya Polyana RUS"]
[Date "2021.07.23"]
[Round "4.2"]
[White "Vachier-Lagrave, Maxime"]
[Black "Praggnanandhaa, R"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2749"]
[BlackElo "2699"]
[ECO "B40"]
[Opening "Sicilian"]
[Variation "Anderssen variation"]
[EventDate "2021.07.12"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Nxc6 bxc6 7. e5 Nd5
8. Ne4 Qc7 9. f4 Qb6 10. c4 Bb4+ 11. Ke2 f5 12. exf6 Nxf6 13. Be3 Qd8 14.
Nd6+ Bxd6 15. Qxd6 Bb7 16. Kd1 c5 17. Qxc5 Be4 18. Be2 d6 19. Qd4 O-O 20.
Kc1 Qc7 21. b3 e5 22. fxe5 dxe5 23. Qc5 Qb7 24. Kb2 Nd5 25. cxd5 Rfc8 26.
Rac1 Rxc5 27. Rxc5 h6 28. d6 Bxg2 29. Rd1 Qe4 30. Bc4+ Kh8 31. d7 Qxe3 32.
Rc8+ Kh7 33. d8=Q 1-0

[Event "FIDE World Cup 2021"]
[Site "Krasnaya Polyana RUS"]
[Date "2021.07.23"]
[Round "4.2"]
[White "Kovalev, Vladislav"]
[Black "Fedoseev, Vladimir"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2637"]
[BlackElo "2696"]
[ECO "B23"]
[Opening "Sicilian"]
[Variation "closed"]
[EventDate "2021.07.12"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Qd2 g6 6. b3 Bh6 7. f4 Nf6 8.
Bb2 e5 9. g3 O-O 10. O-O-O exf4 11. gxf4 Nh5 12. Nd5 Be6 13. Kb1 Bxd5 14.
exd5 Ne5 15. Ne2 Qh4 16. Qb4 Ng4 17. h3 Ngf6 18. Qxb7 Ne4 19. Rg1 Bg7 20.
Bxg7 Nxg7 21. Bg2 Nc5 22. Qb4 Rfe8 23. Nc3 a5 24. Qb6 Nf5 25. Nb5 Reb8 26.
Qc6 Qd8 27. Nc7 Rc8 28. Nxa8 Rxc6 29. dxc6 Qxa8 30. Rge1 Kf8 31. Rd2 Qb8
32. Rde2 Ne6 33. Re4 Ne7 34. Rd1 d5 35. Ra4 Nxf4 0-1

Desmond
24-07-2021, 08:23 AM
Both the 25xx players in tiebreaks lost. Still, 3 25xx through to round 4 is quite incredible. They've got pretty good pairings in Rd4 too:

GM Piorun, Kacper 2608 - GM Sindarov, Javokhir 2558
GM Ivic, Velimir 2581 - GM Andreikin, Dmitry 2724
GM Brkic, Ante 2592 - GM Martirosyan, Haik M. 2648

Sindarov & Brkic were each eliminated 1.5 - 0.5.
Ivic through to tiebreaks after drawing both games.

Scott Colliver
24-07-2021, 10:20 AM
Sindarov & Brkic were each eliminated 1.5 - 0.5.
Ivic through to tiebreaks after drawing both games.

Ivic almost, and perhaps should have, won against Andreikin

Kevin Bonham
24-07-2021, 11:30 AM
Carlsen - Wojtaszek in which white missed lines leading to forced mate.

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Bb5+ Nd7 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nxd4 Ngf6 6.0-0 a6 7.Ba4 e6 8.c4 Be7 9.Nc3 0-0 10.Qe2 Qc7 11.f4 Nb6 12.Bb3 e5 13.Nf5 Bxf5 14.exf5 Rfe8 15.g4 exf4 16.Bxf4 Bf8 17.Qg2 Nxc4 18.g5 Nh5 19.Nd5 Qc5+ 20.Kh1 b5 21.g6 Rab8 22.Rad1 Nxf4 23.Rxf4 Re5 24.Rh4 Rxf5 25.Bc2 [25.Rxh7 fxg6 (25...Rxd5 26.Rxd5 Qe3 27.gxf7+ Kxf7 28.Rf5+ Ke6 29.Qg4 Ke7 30.Rxg7+ Bxg7 31.Qxg7+ Kd8 32.Rf8+ Qe8 33.Rxe8+) 26.Qxg6 Rxd5 27.Rf1 Qc8 28.Bc2] 25...Qf2 26.gxf7+ Kxf7 27.Bxf5 Qxh4 28.Rf1 Kg8 29.Rf4 Qe1+ 30.Rf1 Qe5 31.Qh3 Qxd5+ 32.Rf3 Qd1+ 33.Rf1 Qd5+ 34.Rf3 Qd1+ 1/2-1/2

antichrist
24-07-2021, 12:23 PM
Thanks for posting variety of game openings

Kevin Bonham
25-07-2021, 12:01 AM
Found this endgame interesting especially since I once failed to win something vaguely similar against Johansen in a simul. Of course perfect play is impossible in a rapid game but I also think the commentators' computer assisted analysis may not have been correct - seems Lagno was always winning albeit making hard work of it.

[Event "FIDE World Cup Women 2021"]
[Site "Krasnaya Polyana RUS"]
[Date "2021.07.24"]
[Round "4.3"]
[White "Assaubayeva, Bibisara"]
[Black "Lagno, Kateryna"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E60"]
[Opening "King's Indian defence"]
[EventDate "2021.07.12"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.f3 c5 4.d5 d6 5.e4 e6 6.Nc3 Bg7 7.Nge2 exd5 8.cxd5 a6 9.a4 Nbd7 10.Ng3 Nh5 11.Nxh5 gxh5 12.Be3 f5 13.Be2 0-0 14.exf5 Ne5 15.0-0 Bxf5 16.Ne4 Bxe4 17.fxe4 Qh4 18.Qc2 Ng4 19.Bxg4 Qxg4 20.Rxf8+ Rxf8 21.Rf1 Re8 22.Bf4 Bd4+ 23.Kh1 Rf8 24.g3 h4 25.Qd1 Qg6 26.Qe2 h3 27.Re1 b5 28.axb5 axb5 29.b3 h5 30.Qf3 Re8 31.Qd3 Kh7 32.Qf3 Re7 33.Qd3 b4 34.Qf3 Bc3 35.Rf1 Qxe4 36.Qxe4+ Rxe4 37.Bxd6 Rd4 38.Bxc5 Rxd5 39.Be7 Rd2 40.Rb1 Kg6 41.Bc5 Re2 42.Rg1 Rb2 43.Bd6 Kf5 44.Rf1+ Ke6 45.Bc5 Rxb3 46.Bxb4 Bxb4 47.Rg1 Bc5 48.Re1+ Kf5 49.Rf1+ Kg6 50.Rc1 Rb2 51.Ra1 Bd4 52.Rd1 Be5 53.Re1 Bb8 54.Rg1 Kf5 55.Rf1+ Kg4 56.Ra1 h4 57.Ra4+ Kf3 58.Ra3+ Kf2 59.Ra1 hxg3 60.hxg3 Kxg3 61.Ra3+ Kg4 62.Ra4+ Bf4 63.Ra1 Rc2 64.Rg1+ Bg3 65.Rb1 Re2 66.Ra1 Re3 [66...Bf2 67.Ra4+ Kf3 68.Ra3+ Be3 69.Ra4 Re1+ 70.Kh2 Bf4+ mates] 67.Rb1 Be1 68.Rb7 Bc3 69.Rb1 Be5 70.Rg1+ Kf3 71.Rf1+ Ke2 72.Rb1 Rd3 73.Rc1 Rb3 74.Rc2+ Kd1 75.Rf2 Ke1 76.Rf5 Re3 77.Rf7 Ke2 78.Rb7 Ra3 79.Rb1 Ra2 80.Rc1 Rb2 81.Ra1 Rc2 82.Rb1 Kf3 83.Rf1+ Kg4 84.Rg1+ Kf5 85.Rf1+ Bf4 86.Rb1 Bc1 87.Rb5+ Kg4 88.Rb4+ Kf3 89.Rb7 Bf4 90.Rb1 Be3 91.Rf1+ Kg4 92.Re1 Bc5 93.Rf1 Be3 94.Re1 Rc3 95.Rf1 Kg3 96.Re1 Rb3 97.Rf1 Bf4 98.Rd1 Rb2 99.Rd3+ Kg4 100.Rd1 Rh2+ 101.Kg1 Re2 102.Kh1 Be3 103.Rf1 Kg5 104.Rf3 Kg4 105.Rf1 [105.Rg3+ Kf4 106.Rf3+ Commentators were saying this is a draw but I don't think so (106.Rxh3 a good practical try but black wins with best play 106...Re1+ 107.Kg2 Rg1+ 108.Kh2 Rg4 109.Kh1 Ke4 110.Kh2 Bf4+ 111.Kh1 Rg5 112.Rb3 Be3 113.Rb2 Rg1+ 114.Kh2 Kf3 115.Kh3 Rg6 116.Rb4 Rg7 117.Ra4 Rg1 118.Ra2 Bc1 119.Rc2 Bf4 120.Rc3+ Be3 121.Rc2 Rg3+ 122.Kh2 Rg5 123.Kh1 Rd5 124.Ra2 Rd1+ 125.Kh2 Bf4+ 126.Kh3 Rh1+ 127.Rh2 Rxh2#) 106...Ke4 107.Rf1 Bf4 eg 108.Rb1 Kf5 109.Rd1 Re5 110.Kg1 h2+ to zero the fifty moves rule 111.Kh1 Ra5 112.Re1 Kg4 113.Rb1 Be3 114.Re1 Kf3 115.Rf1+ Kg3 116.Rb1 Kf2 117.Rb2+ Kf3 118.Ra2 Rc5 119.Ra1 Rg5 120.Rf1+ Bf2 121.Ra1 Rg1+ 122.Kxh2 Rxa1 123.Kh3 Rh1#] 105...Kh4 106.Rf7 Re1+ 107.Kh2 Bg1+ White resigns - even if she is keeping score mate now comes one move too fast. 0-1

Kevin Bonham
25-07-2021, 12:33 AM
Ivic almost, and perhaps should have, won against Andreikin

And has eliminated him winning both rapids anyway. First was very interesting with Andreikin eventually blundering in a messy endgame, second was more convincing.

Kevin Bonham
25-07-2021, 12:46 AM
In the Dzagnidze-Shuvalova match white has won 4/4. This should have also been true of Goryachkina-Stefanova but Stefanova blundered (more than once) and lost a won ending.

Scott Colliver
25-07-2021, 12:48 AM
And has eliminated him winning both rapids anyway. First was very interesting with Andreikin eventually blundering in a messy endgame, second was more convincing.

He plays Fedoseev next which will be very difficult because Fedoseev is playing really well. Given he is only 18 he seems to have an excellent future ahead of him.

MichaelBaron
25-07-2021, 02:26 AM
as always with the nockout format, many battles of the nerves!

Scott Colliver
25-07-2021, 02:31 AM
So we have Karjakin - MVL next round, the two highest seeds left in the bottom half so the winner will be favourite to make the final and get a candidates spot.

MichaelBaron
25-07-2021, 11:43 AM
Despite my intense dislike for spineless Karjakin - he appears to be calmer and better fighter than MVL so the nock-out format suits him ...but will keep my fingers crossed for MVL.

Kevin Bonham
25-07-2021, 01:17 PM
There have been so many upsets that at least one sub-2700 is going to make the semi-finals and be one more upset away from a Candidates spot!

MichaelBaron
25-07-2021, 01:43 PM
There have been so many upsets that at least one sub-2700 is going to make the semi-finals and be one more upset away from a Candidates spot!

If Magnus keeps progressing, I wonder what will happen to the 2nd candidates spot...

Scott Colliver
25-07-2021, 02:45 PM
There have been so many upsets that at least one sub-2700 is going to make the semi-finals and be one more upset away from a Candidates spot!

One Semi Final could be Carlsen - Grischuk and the other either Karjakin or MVL - Fedoseev or one of the young guns Ivic, Tabatabaei, Martirosyan

I am certainly hoping the Candidates spots go to Grischuk and Karjakin or MVL.

Scott Colliver
25-07-2021, 02:46 PM
If Magnus keeps progressing, I wonder what will happen to the 2nd candidates spot...

If Carlsen makes the top 2 then the 2nd Candidates spot will go to the winner of the 3rd place match.

Ian Rout
25-07-2021, 02:48 PM
If Magnus keeps progressing, I wonder what will happen to the 2nd candidates spot...The rule is In this case, the place will be passed on to the next non-qualified player in the FIDE World Cup (but not further than 4th place) or to the next non-qualified player in the FIDE Grand Prix Series 2022.

So if Carlsen makes the final then the winner of the third place playoff gets the spot.

https://www.fide.com/news/1097

Scott Colliver
25-07-2021, 06:51 PM
The Womens world cup is really heating up with the top contenders playing. The quarter finals are,

Goryachkina, Aleksandra - Saduakassova, Dinara, Goryachkina should win this one

Dzagnidze, Nana - Muzychuk, Anna, Extremely tough to call this one but maybe Muzychuk is higher rated for a reason

Kosteniuk, Alexandra - Gunina, Valentina, both of these seem to be playing their best despite being a bit lower rated than they have been. Just go with Kosteniuk for this one.

Tan, Zhongyi - Lagno, Kateryna, Lagno slightest of favourites in this one and I think will win

MichaelBaron
25-07-2021, 07:16 PM
The rule is In this case, the place will be passed on to the next non-qualified player in the FIDE World Cup (but not further than 4th place) or to the next non-qualified player in the FIDE Grand Prix Series 2022.

So if Carlsen makes the final then the winner of the third place playoff gets the spot.

https://www.fide.com/news/1097

Thx, Ian so there will be a playoff then.

Desmond
25-07-2021, 07:25 PM
There have been so many upsets that at least one sub-2700 is going to make the semi-finals and be one more upset away from a Candidates spot!

The top 8 from the World Cup also qualify for the Grand Prix, so a second chance at a candidates berth there too.

Ian Rout
25-07-2021, 07:43 PM
Thx, Ian so there will be a playoff then.Yes, that's normal both for Candidates qualifiers and because third prize is higher.

Scott Colliver
25-07-2021, 08:15 PM
The top 8 from the World Cup also qualify for the Grand Prix, so a second chance at a candidates berth there too.

The regulations for the grand prix say "All quarterfinalists who have not qualified for the FIDE World Championship Match 2021 or for the FIDE Candidates Tournament 2022. "

So at most 6 but probably 5 seeing Carlsen will probably beat Esipenko.

Then someone who makes the top 8 could qualify for the Candidates through the Grand Swiss making it less again which actually play in the Grand Prix

Desmond
25-07-2021, 09:01 PM
The regulations for the grand prix say "All quarterfinalists who have not qualified for the FIDE World Championship Match 2021 or for the FIDE Candidates Tournament 2022. "

So at most 6 but probably 5 seeing Carlsen will probably beat Esipenko.

Then someone who makes the top 8 could qualify for the Candidates through the Grand Swiss making it less again which actually play in the Grand Prix
In any event, a sub-2700 who were to make it to the Semis/quarters and lose would have a second chance at a candidates berth via the GP.

MichaelBaron
25-07-2021, 10:32 PM
some have played 9 moves only...while Lagrave and Karyakin are almost finished playing out their Berlin tabia.

Desmond
26-07-2021, 11:44 AM
Carlsen - Wojtaszek in which white missed lines leading to forced mate.

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Bb5+ Nd7 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nxd4 Ngf6 6.0-0 a6 7.Ba4 e6 8.c4 Be7 9.Nc3 0-0 10.Qe2 Qc7 11.f4 Nb6 12.Bb3 e5 13.Nf5 Bxf5 14.exf5 Rfe8 15.g4 exf4 16.Bxf4 Bf8 17.Qg2 Nxc4 18.g5 Nh5 19.Nd5 Qc5+ 20.Kh1 b5 21.g6 Rab8 22.Rad1 Nxf4 23.Rxf4 Re5 24.Rh4 Rxf5 25.Bc2 [25.Rxh7 fxg6 (25...Rxd5 26.Rxd5 Qe3 27.gxf7+ Kxf7 28.Rf5+ Ke6 29.Qg4 Ke7 30.Rxg7+ Bxg7 31.Qxg7+ Kd8 32.Rf8+ Qe8 33.Rxe8+) 26.Qxg6 Rxd5 27.Rf1 Qc8 28.Bc2] 25...Qf2 26.gxf7+ Kxf7 27.Bxf5 Qxh4 28.Rf1 Kg8 29.Rf4 Qe1+ 30.Rf1 Qe5 31.Qh3 Qxd5+ 32.Rf3 Qd1+ 33.Rf1 Qd5+ 34.Rf3 Qd1+ 1/2-1/2

Magnus revealed after the game that he had underestimated Qf2, missing that the h4-rook was hanging. He had seen the very pretty win:

25. ... Rf2 26.Rxh7 Rxg2 27.Nf6+ gxf6 28.gxf7#

MichaelBaron
26-07-2021, 12:10 PM
Esipenko could prove to be one of Carlsen's greatest challenges. Young, ambitious and not afraid of Magnus at all.

Scott Colliver
26-07-2021, 09:21 PM
Esipenko could prove to be one of Carlsen's greatest challenges. Young, ambitious and not afraid of Magnus at all.

He is the strongest player he has played so far and only Grischuk, and the winner of MVL - Karjakin will probably be tougher

Scott Colliver
26-07-2021, 11:57 PM
MVL- Karjakin took about 7 minutes to play out a draw so off to tie breaks they go. They look like being joined by mosts battles

MichaelBaron
27-07-2021, 01:47 AM
MVL- Karjakin took about 7 minutes to play out a draw so off to tie breaks they go. They look like being joined by mosts battles

even faster than yesterday :).

Kevin Bonham
27-07-2021, 02:03 AM
Horrendous blunder by Martirosyan sends his match to a playoff:

8/8/8/3k4/1p1pp1p1/1P2PnP1/3NKP2/8 w - - 0 58

58.Nxf3?? gxf3+ and the pawn ending is won for black. (both sides queen but then black forces the queens off and gets a won K+2P vs K+2P)

Desmond
27-07-2021, 07:51 AM
Another strong performance by 18-year-old Ivic (2581), being on the better side of a draw against Fedoseev (2715). Off to tiebreaks.

James Peirce
27-07-2021, 11:11 AM
Horrendous blunder by Martirosyan sends his match to a playoff:

8/8/8/3k4/1p1pp1p1/1P2PnP1/3NKP2/8 w - - 0 58

58.Nxf3?? gxf3+ and the pawn ending is won for black. (both sides queen but then black forces the queens off and gets a won K+2P vs K+2P)

A classic example for the "Be careful exchanging into pure pawn endgames thread" :eek:

MichaelBaron
27-07-2021, 02:19 PM
A classic example for the "Be careful exchanging into pure pawn endgames thread" :eek:

He was tired after a long defence.

Scott Colliver
27-07-2021, 08:08 PM
Svidler also blundered pretty badly to lose to Shankland.

Kevin Bonham
28-07-2021, 12:20 AM
Fedoseev through - Ivic was winning the second rapid but was terribly short of time and first blew his advantage then blundered, ending his great run.

Kevin Bonham
28-07-2021, 12:28 AM
Duda eliminates Grischuk, also Tabatabaei through.

Scott Colliver
28-07-2021, 12:44 AM
Looks like the next candidates is going to have someone in it who would not be close to making it on ratings.

Hoping Esipenko beats Carlsen so he can make it.

Scott Colliver
28-07-2021, 12:49 AM
On the women's side the players who qualify for the Candidates have been decided. As Goryachkina has already qualified Tan Zhongyi, Kosteniuk and Anna Muzychuk have qualified.

Kevin Bonham
28-07-2021, 02:13 AM
So many blunders today! MVL the latest victim.

Kevin Bonham
28-07-2021, 02:28 AM
Esipenko beats Carlsen on demand (missed an easier win in the middlegame) and on they go to blitz.

Bacrot about to go through; Kacper had a dangerous attack in the first 10/10 but picked a disaster move instead.

MichaelBaron
28-07-2021, 02:30 AM
Esipenko beats Carlsen on demand (missed an easier win in the middlegame) and on they go to blitz.

Bacrot about to go through; Kacper had a dangerous attack in the first 10/10 but picked a disaster move instead.

impressive comeback against the world champ. Karjakin swindled his way to victory again.

Kevin Bonham
28-07-2021, 03:22 AM
So ...

Carlsen - Bacrot
Duda - Vidit
Fedoseev - Tabatabaei
Karjakin - Shankland

Scott Colliver
28-07-2021, 03:26 AM
So we have quarter finals of

Carlsen - Bacrot; Carlsen should win easily
Vidit - Duda; very much 50/50
Fedoseev - Tabatabaei; Fedoseev slight favourite
Karjakin - Shankland; Karjakin the favourite but Shankland will make him work hard for it

And all but Carlsen have qualfied for the FIDE Grand Prix unless they make the candidates.

MichaelBaron
28-07-2021, 09:34 AM
Karjakin getting lucky again unfortunately.

Ian Rout
28-07-2021, 10:59 AM
If the Candidates clashes with the Earth v Mars zonal eliminator for the Intergalactic Cup then the Earth team will still be competitive. With four Candidates places remaining after the World Cup players not yet qualified will include

Caruana
Ding
Aronian
Giri
MVL
Grischuk
So
Mamedyrov
Firoujza
at least one of Karjakin, Duda and Vidit

If the home team insists on playing with the Martian rule of no castling then Kramnik and Anand also could be considered.

Kevin Bonham
28-07-2021, 11:18 AM
Karjakin getting lucky again unfortunately.

I thought it was MVL trying too hard to win a position that wasn't won. 26.a4? and 28.b5? just completely underestimate black's play.

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3.Bf4 c5 4.e3 a6 5.Nf3 cxd4 6.exd4 Bg4 7.Be2 Nc6 8.Ne5 Bxe2 9.Nxe2 e6 10.c3 Be7 11.h4 h5 12.Nd3 Ne4 13.Ng3 Bxh4 14.Nxe4 dxe4 15.Nc5 Be7 16.Rxh5 Rxh5 17.Qxh5 Qd5 18.Qxd5 exd5 19.Nxb7 g5 20.Bd6 Ra7 21.Bxe7 Rxb7 22.Ba3 f5 23.Ke2 Rh7 24.Bc5 f4 25.b4 Rh2 26.a4 Rxg2 27.Kf1 f3 28.b5 e3 29.fxe3 Na5 30.Ba3 Nb3 31.Rd1 axb5 0-1

Also MVL only just saved the previous one.

MichaelBaron
28-07-2021, 12:10 PM
I thought it was MVL trying too hard to win a position that wasn't won. 26.a4? and 28.b5? just completely underestimate black's play.

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3.Bf4 c5 4.e3 a6 5.Nf3 cxd4 6.exd4 Bg4 7.Be2 Nc6 8.Ne5 Bxe2 9.Nxe2 e6 10.c3 Be7 11.h4 h5 12.Nd3 Ne4 13.Ng3 Bxh4 14.Nxe4 dxe4 15.Nc5 Be7 16.Rxh5 Rxh5 17.Qxh5 Qd5 18.Qxd5 exd5 19.Nxb7 g5 20.Bd6 Ra7 21.Bxe7 Rxb7 22.Ba3 f5 23.Ke2 Rh7 24.Bc5 f4 25.b4 Rh2 26.a4 Rxg2 27.Kf1 f3 28.b5 e3 29.fxe3 Na5 30.Ba3 Nb3 31.Rd1 axb5 0-1

Also MVL only just saved the previous one.

Out of the opening looked losing for black

Desmond
28-07-2021, 12:14 PM
Fedoseev through - Ivic was winning the second rapid but was terribly short of time and first blew his advantage then blundered, ending his great run.

Yes that was a shame, played a nice attacking game then went down surfing the 10s increment.

Scott Colliver
28-07-2021, 03:37 PM
As far as I can find here are the previous records of the quarter finals in classical chess

Carlsen - Bacrot; Carlsen +3 =8 -0
Duda - Vidit; Duda +3 =4 -0
Fedoseev - Tabatabaei; Tabatabaei +2 =0 -0
Karjakin - Shankland; Never played

I guess the surprise is Tabatabaei having won both classical games against Fedoseev. They were at the 2018 and 2019 Aeroflot opens when both were much bigger ratings upsets than the difference in this match.

Scott Colliver
28-07-2021, 08:04 PM
And for the women's semifinals the records are,

Goryachkina - Anna Muzychuk; Muzychuk +1 =5 -0
Tan Zhongyi - Kosteniuk; Tan +1 =1 -0

Kevin Bonham
29-07-2021, 02:00 AM
[Event "FIDE World Cup 2021"]
[Site "Krasnaya Polyana RUS"]
[Date "2021.07.28"]
[Round "6.1"]
[White "Bacrot, Etienne"]
[Black "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2678"]
[BlackElo "2847"]
[ECO "C88"]
[Opening "Ruy Lopez"]
[Variation "closed, anti-Marshall 8.a4"]
[EventDate "2021.07.12"]
[EventType "k.o."]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 O-O 8.
a4 Bb7 9. d3 d6 10. Bd2 Qd7 11. Nc3 Na5 12. Ba2 c5 13. Ne2 Nc6 14. Ng3 d5
15. exd5 Nxd5 16. c3 Rad8 17. axb5 axb5 18. Nxe5 Nxe5 19. Rxe5 Bd6 20. Re1
Nf4 21. Bxf4 Bxf4 22. Ne4 Qc7 23. g3 Be5 24. f4 Bd6 25. Qh5 Qc6 26. Qh3 c4
27. d4 Rde8 28. d5 Qxd5 29. Rad1 Rxe4 30. Rxd5 Rxe1+ 31. Kf2 Rfe8 32. Re5
Bxe5 33. Kxe1 Bxc3+ 34. Kf1 Bc8 35. Qg2 Bf5 36. Qd5 Be6 37. Qc5 Bxb2 38.
Kg2 Bd7 39. Qd5 Rd8 40. Qc5 Bf6 41. Bb1 g6 42. g4 Bxg4 43. Qxb5 c3 44. f5
g5 0-1

MichaelBaron
29-07-2021, 02:46 AM
Gosh Shankland-Karjakin K & pawns endgame....

Scott Colliver
29-07-2021, 02:55 AM
Shankland and Carlsen win, one more surprising than the other. The other two games drawn.

Kevin Bonham
29-07-2021, 10:33 AM
[Event "FIDE World Cup 2021"]
[Site "Krasnaya Polyana RUS"]
[Date "2021.07.28"]
[Round "6.1"]
[White "Shankland, Sam"]
[Black "Karjakin, Sergey"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteTitle "GM"]
[BlackTitle "GM"]
[WhiteElo "2709"]
[BlackElo "2757"]
[ECO "A20"]
[Opening "English opening"]
[WhiteFideId "2004887"]
[BlackFideId "14109603"]
[EventDate "2021.07.12"]
[EventType "k.o."]

1.c4 e5 2.g3 c6 3.Nf3 e4 4.Nd4 d5 5.cxd5 Qxd5 6.e3 Bc5 7.Nc3 Qe5 8.d3 exd3 9.Qxd3 Nf6 10.Bg2 0-0 11.0-0 Rd8 12.Nf3 Rxd3 13.Nxe5 Rd8 14.b3 Be6 15.Bb2 Na6 16.Rad1 Be7 17.Ne2 Nb4 18.Nd4 Bd5 19.a3 Na6 20.b4 Bxg2 21.Kxg2 c5 22.Nf5 Bf8 23.b5 Nc7 24.a4 Nfd5 25.Nc4 g6 26.Nh4 Nb6 27.Rxd8 Rxd8 28.Nxb6 axb6 29.Nf3 Ra8 30.Be5 Ne8 31.Ra1 f6 32.Bc3 Kf7 33.Nd2 Bd6 34.Kf1 Ke6 35.Ke2 h5 36.Kd3 Bc7 37.f4 Nd6 38.e4 f5 39.e5 Nf7 40.Kc4 Ke7 41.Nf1 Nd8 42.Ne3 Ne6 43.a5 bxa5 44.b6 Bd8 45.Rd1 Nd4 46.Nd5+ Kf7 47.Bxd4 cxd4 48.Rxd4 Rc8+ 49.Nc7 Bxc7 50.Rd7+ Ke6 51.Rxc7 Rxc7+ 52.bxc7 Kd7 53.Kb5 Kxc7 54.Kxa5 Kc6 55.Kb4 Kb6 56.Kc4 Kc6 57.Kd4 b5 58.h3 1-0

In this case it was already lost anyway before the pawn ending. 38...f5 appears to have been very bad.

Ian Rout
29-07-2021, 11:55 AM
Shankland might manage to qualify for the Candidates and fail to make the US Olympiad team if they continue to select purely on rating.

Scott Colliver
29-07-2021, 04:45 PM
Shankland might manage to qualify for the Candidates and fail to make the US Olympiad team if they continue to select purely on rating.

I think he will make the team.
He only has Caruana, Dominguez and Nakamura ahead of him. Maybe Aronian as well, but he has not transferred yet.
Nakamura is quite likely not going to play, he has spoken about he was given a chance when some older players could have clung onto their place and how he might let a younger player like Xiong go instead.

Ian Rout
29-07-2021, 04:51 PM
I think he will make the team.
He only has Caruana, Dominguez and Nakamura ahead of him.
And Wesley.

Scott Colliver
29-07-2021, 04:54 PM
And Wesley.

Yes, my post is wrong, and Wesley So. Still I think he has a reasonable chance to make the last spot.

Scott Colliver
29-07-2021, 09:08 PM
It will be good to see the women's semi finals start tonight. They are going to be great contests.

Scott Colliver
30-07-2021, 12:21 AM
Shankland is looking like being crushed by a Karjakin attack so talk of him making the Candidates seems to be very premature. Winning tie breaks against Karjakin is going to be very difficult.

Kevin Bonham
30-07-2021, 12:53 AM
Shankland is looking like being crushed by a Karjakin attack so talk of him making the Candidates seems to be very premature. Winning tie breaks against Karjakin is going to be very difficult.

Good illustration of how careful black has to be in the KIA - all the queenside play in the world does you no good if your king is getting hacked.

1. e4 e6 2. d3 d5 3. Nd2 Nf6 4. Ngf3 Be7 5. g3 a5 6. Bg2 a4 7. a3 c5 8. O-O
Nc6 9. Re1 O-O 10. e5 Nd7 11. Nf1 b5 12. h4 Bb7 13. h5 h6 14. Bf4 Qb6 15.
Qd2 Rfc8 16. g4 Qd8 17. N1h2 Ra6 18. Kh1 b4 19. Rg1 Nf8 20. axb4 cxb4 21.
d4 Na5 22. g5 Nc4 23. Qc1 hxg5 24. Bxg5 b3 25. Bxe7 Qxe7 26. Bf1 a3 27.
Rxg7+ Kxg7 28. Ng4 f5 29. exf6+ Qxf6 30. Nxf6 axb2 31. Qg5+ Kf7 32. h6 Ng6
33. Nh4 bxa1=Q 34. Qxg6+ Ke7 35. Qg7+ Kd6 36. Qd7#

Scott Colliver
30-07-2021, 12:54 AM
Good illustration of how careful black has to be in the KIA - all the queenside play in the world does you no good if your king is getting hacked.

Yes, Shankland was even able to queen on a1 and then got mated. So off to tiebreaks for them with Karjakin being the favourite.

Scott Colliver
30-07-2021, 02:24 AM
Fedoseev now seems to be winning after Tabatabaei blunders. Again pressure in a long ending induces a blunder.

antichrist
30-07-2021, 08:16 AM
Yes, Shankland was even able to queen on a1 and then got mated. So off to tiebreaks for them with Karjakin being the favourite.

Shockingly careless to ignore threats in that situation. What failed to see 2 moves ahead?

Kevin Bonham
30-07-2021, 10:09 AM
Shockingly careless to ignore threats in that situation. What failed to see 2 moves ahead?

No it was just a fancy alternative to resigning.

MichaelBaron
30-07-2021, 11:46 AM
It is ridiculous how lucky Karjakin is time after time. Shankland did not play the way he usually does.

Vlad
30-07-2021, 12:53 PM
It is ridiculous how lucky Karjakin is time after time. Shankland did not play the way he usually does.

Only weak players can use luck as an excuse.:wall:

Karyakin is a very strong player after all. All Shankland is good at is theory. Once he is to use his own head, things move where they are expected to be.

It looks like the final between Magnus and Sergey. Both are amazing players!:owned:

Scott Colliver
30-07-2021, 08:44 PM
I would be happy with a final between Carlsen and Karjakin. Both are amounst the top tier of chess players and Karjakin is a very worthy Candidates player.

Then that would leave 3rd place and second Candidates spot between Duda and Fedoseev, not sure who I would prefer to win.

Still Karjakin has to beat Shankland before any of that can happen.

Kevin Bonham
30-07-2021, 10:51 PM
Shankland wins rapid 1 impressively so Karjakin has to win on demand again with white:

1. c4 Nf6 2. g3 e6 3. Bg2 d5 4. d4 Be7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. O-O dxc4 7. Qc2 a6 8.
a4 Bd7 9. Qxc4 Bc6 10. Bg5 Nbd7 11. Nc3 h6 12. Bxf6 Nxf6 13. e3 Qd6 14.
Rfb1 a5 15. Qe2 Bxf3 16. Bxf3 c6 17. Rd1 g6 18. h4 h5 19. Qc2 Rfd8 20. Ne2
Kg7 21. Kg2 Qc7 22. Rac1 Rac8 23. Qb3 Bd6 24. Rc2 Qe7 25. Rcd2 Bb4 26. Rd3
Rd7 27. e4 Rcd8 28. Nf4 e5 29. dxe5 Qxe5 30. Rxd7 Rxd7 31. Nd3 Qe7 32. e5
Nd5 33. Qc2 Nc7 34. Nxb4 axb4 35. Rxd7 Qxd7 36. Qc5 Qd2 37. Qd6 Qxd6 38.
exd6 Ne6 39. Bxc6 b6 40. Bd5 Nc5 41. Kf3 Kf6 42. b3 g5 43. hxg5+ Kxg5 44.
Ke3 f5 45. Kd4 1-0

Scott Colliver
30-07-2021, 10:53 PM
Swapping queens was a big mistake be Karjakin, it seems he missed Bxc6.

Kevin Bonham
30-07-2021, 11:00 PM
Swapping queens was a big mistake be Karjakin, it seems he missed Bxc6.

Looks like he was lost after 36...Qd2 whether he swapped queens or not, 36...Na6 may have been the best try but black is still struggling.

Scott Colliver
30-07-2021, 11:06 PM
Looks like he was lost after 36...Qd2 whether he swapped queens or not, 36...Na6 may have been the best try but black is still struggling.

Fair enough but I still think he missed Bxc6.

Kevin Bonham
30-07-2021, 11:26 PM
Fair enough but I still think he missed Bxc6.

Suspect so as that would explain playing ...Qd2 in the first place.

Scott Colliver
31-07-2021, 12:01 AM
White wins again so 2-2 and 10 minutes to come

Kevin Bonham
31-07-2021, 12:02 AM
Shankland wins rapid 1 impressively so Karjakin has to win on demand again with white

And does it easily.

Scott Colliver
31-07-2021, 12:11 AM
In the women's section both Goryachkina and Kosteniuk have missed wins so both matches might go to tie breaks.

Scott Colliver
31-07-2021, 12:40 AM
White wins again but this time it is Karjajin with white first so Shankland needs to win on demand.

Kevin Bonham
31-07-2021, 12:43 AM
Kosteniuk missed a really nice queen trap but it is not as if Tan equalised, and now Tan is losing again.

It looks like Karjakin can beat Shankland with white in his sleep.

Scott Colliver
31-07-2021, 01:25 AM
We have our semi finals

Carlsen - Duda
Fedoseev - Karjakin

Duda has the luxury of a guaranteed two chances to win a match to get to the candidates.

Kevin Bonham
31-07-2021, 01:28 AM
Shankland almost beat Karjakin with white a third time but 28.Qc1? allowing ..Rd8 sealed his fate.

1. c4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. b3 b6 4. g3 Bb7 5. Bg2 c5 6. Bb2 Be7 7. O-O O-O 8.
d4 cxd4 9. Qxd4 Nc6 10. Qf4 d5 11. Nc3 dxc4 12. Rfd1 Qb8 13. Qxc4 Rd8 14.
e4 Rxd1+ 15. Rxd1 Ne5 16. Qe2 Nxf3+ 17. Bxf3 Bb4 18. a3 Bxc3 19. Bxc3 Qc7
20. Bxf6 gxf6 21. e5 fxe5 22. Bxb7 Qxb7 23. Qxe5 Qf3 24. Rd7 h6 25. Qc7 Rf8
26. Qc2 a5 27. a4 Qa8 28. Qc1 Rd8 29. Rxd8+ Qxd8 30. Qxh6 Qd1+ 31. Kg2 Qd5+
32. f3 Qxb3 33. Qg5+ Kf8 34. Qd8+ Kg7 35. Qd4+ Kg8 36. g4 Qb4 37. Qd7 Qb2+
38. Kh3 Qh8+ 39. Kg2 Qb2+ 40. Kg1 Qa1+ 41. Kf2 Qb2+ 42. Ke3 Qxh2 43. Qd8+
Kg7 44. Kd3 Qa2 45. Qd4+ Kg8 46. Qc4 Qa3+ 47. Ke4 Qb2 48. g5 Qb1+ 49. Ke3
Qe1+ 50. Kd3 Qf1+ 51. Kd4 0-1

Scott Colliver
31-07-2021, 02:12 AM
Suspect so as that would explain playing ...Qd2 in the first place.

Karjakin confirms he missed Bxc6 in an interview.

Kevin Bonham
31-07-2021, 02:23 AM
Goryachkina - Kosteniuk final. Both have progressed easily in terms of game results with Goryachkina being taken to one tiebreak in her 3-1 win over Stefanova and Kosteniuk winning every match in classical.

Scott Colliver
31-07-2021, 02:56 AM
Goryachkina - Kosteniuk final. Both have progressed easily in terms of game results with Goryachkina being taken to one tiebreak in her 3-1 win over Stefanova and Kosteniuk winning every match in classical.

Kosteniuk has a good record against Goryachkina in part because she has played Goryachkina as she has grown up. Their first game occurred when Goryachkina was only 12 and 2103 rated.
The record is +6 =6 -3 in Kosteniuk's favour but in the last 6 games in 2019 and 2020 Goryachkina has won 3, drawn 2 and only lost 1. This includes the 2019 Candidates where Goryachkina won with white and drew with black.

This will be an incredibly tight match even though Goryachkina has just taken her rating well over 2600 because Kosteniuk seems to be back to her best and has taken her live rating up around 50 points from the World Cup.

My pick is both classical games will be won by white and we will see tiebreaks that Goryachkina will eventually win

Garvinator
31-07-2021, 10:43 AM
Interesting from reading the regulations that both finals are only two classical games, whereas in the past the final has been four games.

Ian Rout
31-07-2021, 12:20 PM
We have our semi finals

Carlsen - Duda
Fedoseev - Karjakin

Duda has the luxury of a guaranteed two chances to win a match to get to the candidates.Having too much spare time, I was musing last week whether it's an advantage to play Carlsen in the semi-finals because you are guaranteed a second chance, whereas losing the other semi is less likely but you need to rely on Carlsen winning his semi. So now Duda has got to that position I tried to test it.

Suppose we say C has a 60% likelihood of beating D or K, they both have a 60% chance against F and are 50:50 against each other.

Then D needs to beat C (.40), or lose to C and beat either K (.6 x .4 x .5 = .12) or F (.6 x .6 x .6 = .216). So he has a 73.6% chance.

On the other hand K needs to win (.60) the semi, or if he loses he needs to have C win (otherwise both places are taken) and then beat D (.4 x .6 x .5 = .12), total 72%.

F's chances are .4 (winning the semi) + .6 x .6 x .4 (winning on the second chance) = .144, total 54.4%.

As a cross-check the total is 200% (recalling there are two places).

So although we've assumed D and K to have identical profiles, D is better off being in his own position than K's.

Scott Colliver
31-07-2021, 01:39 PM
Having too much spare time, I was musing last week whether it's an advantage to play Carlsen in the semi-finals because you are guaranteed a second chance, whereas losing the other semi is less likely but you need to rely on Carlsen winning his semi. So now Duda has got to that position I tried to test it.

Suppose we say C has a 60% likelihood of beating D or K, they both have a 60% chance against F and are 50:50 against each other.

Then D needs to beat C (.40), or lose to C and beat either K (.6 x .4 x .5 = .12) or F (.6 x .6 x .6 = .216). So he has a 73.6% chance.

On the other hand K needs to win (.60) the semi, or if he loses he needs to have C win (otherwise both places are taken) and then beat D (.4 x .6 x .5 = .12), total 72%.

F's chances are .4 (winning the semi) + .6 x .6 x .4 (winning on the second chance) = .144, total 54.4%.

As a cross-check the total is 200% (recalling there are two places).

So although we've assumed D and K to have identical profiles, D is better off being in his own position than K's.

Karjakin is a better player than Duda so why are they given the same chance against Carlsen?

Ian Rout
31-07-2021, 02:17 PM
Karjakin is a better player than Duda so why are they given the same chance against Carlsen?A couple of reasons. One is just using round numbers to simplify the model (recalling that the outcome of Carlsen v Karjakin isn't relevant). The other is it's not clear that Karjakin has much more chance, if at all, than Duda; he's only twenty points and four places higher rated, and lower in rapid and blitz.

Scott Colliver
31-07-2021, 06:05 PM
A couple of reasons. One is just using round numbers to simplify the model (recalling that the outcome of Carlsen v Karjakin isn't relevant). The other is it's not clear that Karjakin has much more chance, if at all, than Duda; he's only twenty points and four places higher rated, and lower in rapid and blitz.

FIDE rapid and blitz ratings are a joke, there is simply too many players with far to low ratings to use them reliably for anything.

I would back Karjakin to beat Duda quite comfortably in a long match.

Scott Colliver
01-08-2021, 09:01 PM
Goryachkina or Kosteniuk? Who is everyone picking?

I have already said I am going for Goryachkina in tie breaks

MichaelBaron
01-08-2021, 09:05 PM
Goryachkina or Kosteniuk? Who is everyone picking?

I have already said I am going for Goryachkina in tie breaks

Goryachkina is much stronger ...Kosteniuk's only chance is her nerves of steel!

Scott Colliver
01-08-2021, 09:34 PM
In the mens semifinals I think Carlsen will beat Duda fairly easily, 2-0
Fedoseev will get a bit closer to Karjakin but I go 1.5 - 0.5

Scott Colliver
01-08-2021, 10:26 PM
Fedoseev - Karjakin and the womens third place game between Anna Muzchuk and Zhongyi Tan have the same position

Scott Colliver
01-08-2021, 11:35 PM
It looks like Kosteniuk has good chances to hold against Goryachkina but there is still plenty of play in the position and Goryachkina is not going to give up soon

Scott Colliver
02-08-2021, 12:48 AM
Duda holds Carlsen to a draw and gets to play for a win as white

Scott Colliver
02-08-2021, 03:03 AM
Goryachkina - Kosteniuk turns into a tactical melee and then a very complicated endgame that Kosteniuk eventually won.

Scott Colliver
02-08-2021, 09:09 AM
This was Kosteniuk's first win as black against Goryachkina in any format, although they might have played online blitz or something like that.

Goryachkina beat Kosteniuk with black once at the Skolkovo FIDE GP (Women) in 2019, one of their most recent games.

antichrist
02-08-2021, 10:20 AM
This was Kosteniuk's first win as black against Goryachkina in any format, although they might have played online blitz or something like that.

Goryachkina beat Kosteniuk with black once at the Skolkovo FIDE GP (Women) in 2019, one of their most recent games.

Your prediction of Duda getting thrashed by Carlsen didn't hold up very well.

MichaelBaron
02-08-2021, 10:32 AM
K vs. G. = amazing result!

Scott Colliver
02-08-2021, 10:56 AM
Your prediction of Duda getting thrashed by Carlsen didn't hold up very well.

No it didn't, I was wrong.

Where was your prediction?

Scott Colliver
02-08-2021, 07:40 PM
So tonight we have,

Duda hopefully trying to beat Carlsen with white to make the final and the candidates

Karjakin with white against Fedoseev, he should try and win this

Goryachkina in a must win game with black against Kosteniuk, should be very exciting

antichrist
02-08-2021, 09:50 PM
No it didn't, I was wrong.

Where was your prediction?

I don't follow the players just the odd game. I don't know anything about them except Carlsen.

Scott Colliver
02-08-2021, 09:53 PM
I don't follow the players just the odd game. I don't know anything about them except Carlsen.

I don't know anything either by how my predictions are going

Scott Colliver
02-08-2021, 10:58 PM
Kosteniuk has a position that gives Goryachkina little chance of winning so Kosteniuk is going to win the Women's World Cup

Scott Colliver
03-08-2021, 01:01 AM
Karjakin is through to the final and has qualified for the Candidates. It will be good to see him in the Candidates as he is one of the elite chess players.

Scott Colliver
03-08-2021, 02:58 AM
Kosteniuk has a position that gives Goryachkina little chance of winning so Kosteniuk is going to win the Women's World Cup

The agree to a draw in a winning position for Kosteniuk so Kosteniuk is the champion.

Kevin Bonham
03-08-2021, 03:08 AM
Kosteniuk has a position that gives Goryachkina little chance of winning so Kosteniuk is going to win the Women's World Cup

And has done so. A quieter game after that amazing game yesterday.

This was game 1 Goryachkina - Kosteniuk. Goryachkina was winning eg with 36.Rd1 but missed the win and then made other mistakes. The tablebase ending was always won for Kosteniuk, a rare case of KR vs KB being a win because of the defender having hopeless king position.

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 d5 4. Bg2 dxc4 5. Nf3 a6 6. O-O Nc6 7. Be3 Nd5 8. Qc1
Nxe3 9. Qxe3 Be7 10. Rc1 O-O 11. Rxc4 Bd7 12. a3 a5 13. Nbd2 a4 14. Ne5 Na5 15.
Rc2 Bb5 16. Re1 Ra6 17. h4 Rd6 18. Qc3 c6 19. e3 f6 20. Nef3 e5 21. b4 axb3 22.
Nxb3 Nxb3 23. Qxb3+ Kh8 24. a4 Ba6 25. dxe5 Rd3 26. Rc3 Rxc3 27. Qxc3 fxe5 28.
Qxe5 c5 29. h5 c4 30. h6 Bf6 31. hxg7+ Bxg7 32. Qh5 Qf6 33. Ng5 Qxf2+ 34. Kh2
Qc2 35. e4 h6 36. Nf7+ Kg8 37. Qd5 c3 38. Nxh6+ Kh7 39. Nf7 Qf2 40. Ng5+ Kg6 41.
Rh1 Qd4 42. Nh3 Qxd5 43. exd5 Bh6 44. Re1 Bd3 45. Nf4+ Bxf4 46. gxf4 Rxf4 47. d6
Rxa4 48. Bxb7 Rd4 49. Kg3 Bf5 50. Bf3 c2 51. Rc1 Kf6 52. Kf2 Ke5 53. Ke3 Rd3+
54. Ke2 Rxd6 55. Ke1 Kd4 56. Bd1 Ke3 57. Rxc2 Bxc2 58. Bxc2 Rd2 59. Bf5 Rf2 60.
Be6 Rf6 61. Bd5 Rd6 62. Bb3 Rb6 63. Bc2 Ra6 0-1

Lucky there but impressive feat by Kosteniuk to win every match in classical. Checking the records of these FIDE knockouts Kosteniuk is the only player, male or female, to have ever done this, and she has done it twice!

antichrist
03-08-2021, 05:30 AM
The agree to a draw in a winning position for Kosteniuk so Kosteniuk is the champion.

If i read correctly nobody picked her in the poll?? My ignorance is bliss

Desmond
03-08-2021, 10:47 AM
I don't follow the players just the odd game. I don't know anything about them except Carlsen.

Well Karjakin was a former world cup winner, after having trailed Svidler 0-2 in the final match (of which Svidler never tires of being reminded).

Ian Rout
03-08-2021, 11:25 AM
Karjakin is through to the final and has qualified for the Candidates. It will be good to see him in the Candidates as he is one of the elite chess players.I have Karjakin in the poll but even if he wins I only get third on tie-break. In fact I think machomortensen has already won in every scenario, and already had done by the quarter-finals.

Kevin Bonham
03-08-2021, 03:03 PM
If i read correctly nobody picked her in the poll?? My ignorance is bliss

There was no poll for the women's. Try to pay attention.

Kevin Bonham
03-08-2021, 03:13 PM
I have Karjakin in the poll but even if he wins I only get third on tie-break. In fact I think machomortensen has already won in every scenario, and already had done by the quarter-finals.

Except if Duda wins the tournament, in which case Garvinator wins the poll.

Scott Colliver
03-08-2021, 03:18 PM
Carlsen or Duda tonight? Who do you pick?

Ian Rout
03-08-2021, 03:56 PM
Except if Duda wins the tournament, in which case Garvinator wins the poll.

Ah yes, I missed the short name in the list and thought there were only two live players. So still two people in it.

Scott Colliver
04-08-2021, 12:29 AM
Duda beats Carlsen with black in the second game of the rapid tie break to make the final and secure the 2nd Candidates spot

MichaelBaron
04-08-2021, 12:31 AM
Magnus faulted!

Kevin Bonham
04-08-2021, 12:33 AM
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ Bd7 4. Bxd7+ Qxd7 5. O-O Nf6 6. Qe2 Nc6 7. c3 e6
8. d4 cxd4 9. cxd4 d5 10. e5 Ne4 11. Nbd2 Nxd2 12. Bxd2 Bb4 13. Bf4 O-O 14.
Qd3 Be7 15. a3 Rac8 16. g3 Na5 17. b3 Qc6 18. Bd2 Qb6 19. Rfb1 a6 20. Kg2
Nc6 21. Re1 Qb5 22. Qb1 Rc7 23. h4 Rfc8 24. Ra2 a5 25. Rh1 a4 26. b4 h6 27.
Be3 Na7 28. Bd2 Qe2 29. Re1 Qc4 30. Re3 Nb5 31. Rd3 Rc6 32. Rb2 Bd8 33. g4
Bb6 34. Be3 Nc3 35. Qf1 Qb5 36. Rc2 Ne4 37. Rxc6 Rxc6 38. Rd1 Rc4 39. Nd2
Nxd2 40. Rxd2 Qc6 41. Qe2 Rc3 42. Ra2 Bd8 43. g5 hxg5 44. hxg5 Qc4 45. Qxc4
dxc4 46. d5 exd5 47. Rd2 Rd3 48. Rxd3 cxd3 49. f4 Kf8 50. Kf3 Ke7 51. Bc5+
Ke6 52. Ke3 Kf5 53. Kxd3 g6 54. Be3 Bc7 55. b5 Bd8 56. Kd4 Bb6+ 57. Kd3 Bd8
58. Kd4 Be7 59. Bc1 Ke6 60. Bb2 Bd8 61. Kc5 Ba5 62. Bc1 Bc3 63. b6 d4 64.
Kc4 Kd7 65. Be3 Bb2 66. Bxd4 Bxa3 67. Be3 Bb2 68. Kb4 a3 69. Kb3 Ke6 70.
Ka2 Kd5 71. Kb3 Ke4 72. Bd2 Bd4 73. Kxa3 Bxb6 74. Kb4 Bf2 0-1

Metro
04-08-2021, 02:48 AM
Kosteniuk has a position that gives Goryachkina little chance of winning so Kosteniuk is going to win the Women's World Cup
Heartfelt congratulations to Sacha and commiserations to Sacha - GM P.Svidler

MichaelBaron
04-08-2021, 11:24 AM
the simple looking bishop endgame in Carlsen-Duda shows how not simple endgames are!

Kevin Bonham
04-08-2021, 11:45 AM
The bishop ending was won for Duda until he missed ...f6 on move 49 and again on move 50. Then it was a draw with best play until Carlsen's 62.Bc1 (Bd4 to block the d-pawn draws because the black bishop has to prevent white's king grabbing the b-pawn).

Kevin Bonham
05-08-2021, 12:34 AM
17-move draw is pretty feeble by Karjakin giving he was white and he had a day off when his opponent didn't.

Scott Colliver
05-08-2021, 01:10 AM
17-move draw is pretty feeble by Karjakin giving he was white and he had a day off when his opponent didn't.

I agree

MichaelBaron
05-08-2021, 01:25 AM
Magnus is playing a great zuckzwang game.

Vlad
05-08-2021, 09:59 AM
Magnus is playing a great zuckzwang game.

Yeah, even 2700+ players look like amateurs when they face Magnus.