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lost
04-08-2019, 11:11 AM
Hi all,

Good to see more Australian's playing overseas. GM Temur Kuybokarov and Samuel Asaka are currently playing in the 26th Abu Dhabi Chess Festival Masters section. Here is the chess-results link to follow their results in the tournament: http://chess-results.com/tnr448336.aspx?lan=1&art=2&rd=4&fed=AUS&turdet=YES&flag=30

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MichaelBaron
04-08-2019, 11:53 AM
Hi all,

Good to see more Australian's playing overseas. GM Temur Kuybokarov and Samuel Asaka are currently playing in the 26th Abu Dhabi Chess Festival Masters section. Here is the chess-results link to follow their results in the tournament: http://chess-results.com/tnr448336.aspx?lan=1&art=2&rd=4&fed=AUS&turdet=YES&flag=30

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Not great performances by both so far...but still 6 rounds to go. Hopefully, they will come back

lost
05-08-2019, 09:28 AM
Not great performances by both so far...but still 6 rounds to go. Hopefully, they will come back

Michael, you might be right about Temur not having the best performance in the tournament but to say that about Samuel is very harsh. If you have seen, he has played 4 IM's in a row. This is a good experience for a junior like Samuel and it will only making him stronger as a player.

Michael, maybe we can see a comeback from you and you can play in an international tournament. Better still, if you play in a strong International Open outside of Australia and Oceania, I will happily play if time permits for me this year.

If you unable to leave Melbourne at all, perhaps you can play in Leonid's IM tournament.

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MichaelBaron
05-08-2019, 11:13 AM
Michael, you might be right about Temur not have the best performance in the tournament but to say that about Samuel is very harsh. If you have seen, he has played 4 IM's in a row. This is a good experience for a junior like Samuel and it will only making him stronger as a player.

Michael, maybe we can see a comeback from you and you can play in an international tournament. Better still, if you play in a strong International Open outside of Australia and Oceania, I will happily play if time permits for me this year.

If you unable to leave Melbourne at all, perhaps you can play in Leonid's IM tournament.

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I would assume that in English language ''Not having a great performance'' implies having a performance that is not great....it does not imply it is a very bad performance. Furthermore, it does not imply that playing in that tournament is not a valuable experience and not going to make him a stronger player.

Not sure how it is related to my hypothetical comeback that is in any case highly unlikely. But yes, if it would be happen - it would be in Melbourne. Would there be Interclub - I would probably play a game or 2 for the team MCC.

Kevin Bonham
05-08-2019, 12:38 PM
I would assume that in English language ''Not having a great performance'' implies having a performance that is not great....it does not imply it is a very bad performance.

It tends to imply having a performance that is not good either, it tends to imply mediocre or worse.

MichaelBaron
05-08-2019, 04:07 PM
It tends to imply having a performance that is not good either, it tends to imply mediocre or worse.

Well but it is indeed not good either :)

lost
05-08-2019, 11:42 PM
Well but it is indeed not good either :)

An interesting point about the Abu Dhabi Masters is all the boards are live for the event. You can watch games via chess24 at the following link: https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/abu-dhabi-masters-2019/5/1/71

Capablanca-Fan
06-08-2019, 07:31 AM
I would assume that in English language ''Not having a great performance'' implies having a performance that is not great....it does not imply it is a very bad performance.
It is a figure of speech known as litotes (https://literarydevices.net/litotes/). It seems to be especially common in spoken Australian English usage.

MichaelBaron
06-08-2019, 03:31 PM
An interesting point about the Abu Dhabi Masters is all the boards are live for the event. You can watch games via chess24 at the following link: https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/abu-dhabi-masters-2019/5/1/71

I think i will stick to following the results rather than in-depth analysis of his play :)

lost
06-08-2019, 06:47 PM
I think i will stick to following the results rather than in-depth analysis of his play :)

Michael, I did say all games are live so you could watch any other game actually, not Temur's or Samuel's if they were not interesting enough.

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MichaelBaron
06-08-2019, 11:09 PM
Michael, I did say all games are live so you could watch any other game actually, not Temur's or Samuel's if they were not interesting enough.

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Thx, Jamie
It is just that I was looking for a logical link between your comment of watching games...and my comment on performance :)..so assumed you were referring to their games.

Frank
07-08-2019, 12:59 AM
It is a figure of speech known as litotes (https://literarydevices.net/litotes/). ...

Uhuh - litotes! That is a complete explanation of the riddle of how well or how badly he played, which is a false question not raised by the utterer in the first place.

MichaelBaron
07-08-2019, 06:14 PM
Uhuh - litotes! That is a complete explanation of the riddle of how well or how badly he played, which is a false question not raised by the utterer in the first place.

Next time, I will simply state: rating performance + Number of rating points lost...:owned:

Kevin Bonham
07-08-2019, 06:31 PM
Next time, I will simply state: rating performance + Number of rating points lost...:owned:

That site's performance ratings are often wrong and should be treated with caution. Though I think it is mainly just an issue with them being too low when unrated players are included.

Frank
07-08-2019, 07:16 PM
Next time, I will simply state: rating performance + Number of rating points lost...:owned:

:)

MichaelBaron
07-08-2019, 11:01 PM
That site's performance ratings are often wrong and should be treated with caution. Though I think it is mainly just an issue with them being too low when unrated players are included.

Well, some people believe that we should only point it out when someone is having a great tournament and if someone is not having good results...we should say something to encourage them (not that I mind) without even mentioning the fact that the result is not good...

So to limit my ''responsibility'' for stating something that is not nice (in Australia...its not nice to tell people they are not doing well ... :)) I will simply present the quantitative data haha.

Kevin Bonham
08-08-2019, 12:40 AM
Well, some people believe that we should only point it out when someone is having a great tournament and if someone is not having good results...

That's not the problem I'm concerned with. The problem is that in the past we have had cases on here of people using chess-results' defective performance ratings to say that players (especially juniors) were performing badly when they were actually playing well and gaining ratings points!

Looking at rating gain/loss is be a more useful measure though I've also known that site to have incorrect k-factors at times.

lost
08-08-2019, 06:01 AM
Looking at rating gain/loss is be a more useful measure though I've also known that site to have incorrect k-factors at times.

How is it possible for chess-results to have incorrect K-Factor when the file they would be using is directly downloaded from the FIDE website. Therefore it cannot be the program's fault but simply wrong data was put into the FIDE Rating file for download.

Regarding the performance ratings you are right that it can be incorrect at times as I know some arbiters have picked up on this.

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Kevin Bonham
08-08-2019, 09:18 AM
How is it possible for chess-results to have incorrect K-Factor when the file they would be using is directly downloaded from the FIDE website. Therefore it cannot be the program's fault but simply wrong data was put into the FIDE Rating file for download.

From what I can find here the issue last arose in 2014 when the k-factors were changed in the middle of the year and chess-results was showing incorrect k-factors for some tournaments around the time of the change.

MichaelBaron
08-08-2019, 11:37 AM
http://chess-results.com/tnr448336.aspx?lan=1&art=9&fed=AUS&turdet=YES&flag=30&snr=123

According to me and Chess-Results (both unreliable though :)). - Samuel's performance has improved considerably. Both me and Chess-Results think that he is now performing well above his rating.

Metro
10-08-2019, 01:25 PM
Jobava is in great form and is 7.5/8 going into the last round.
http://chess-results.com/tnr448336.aspx?lan=1&art=1&rd=8&fed=AUS&turdet=YES&flag=30

Since the 1st round loss Temur has been good
http://chess-results.com/tnr448336.aspx?lan=1&art=9&fed=AUS&turdet=YES&flag=30&snr=44

Kevin Bonham
10-08-2019, 02:08 PM
The Indian player who beat Temur in round 1 then beat an even higher rated GM in round 2 and has a current TPR of 2508. Needs a draw for an IM norm. Doesn't appear to be underrated as his rating has been pretty stable despite a high activity level for years, unless maybe he has been playing in lots of Indian events full of underrated juniors.

MichaelBaron
11-08-2019, 02:29 AM
Jobava is in great form and is 7.5/8 going into the last round.
http://chess-results.com/tnr448336.aspx?lan=1&art=1&rd=8&fed=AUS&turdet=YES&flag=30

Since the 1st round loss Temur has been good
http://chess-results.com/tnr448336.aspx?lan=1&art=9&fed=AUS&turdet=YES&flag=30&snr=44
Amazing how Jobava was over 2700 and now down to 2584. May be a start of his comeback!