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Metro
23-02-2018, 01:27 AM
2018 FIDE Candidates' Tournament | Participants

# Name Rtg Rnk Age Qualification
1 S. Mamedyarov 2814 2 32 Grand Prix
2 Vladimir Kramnik 2800 3 43 Wildcard
3 Wesley So 2799 4 25 Rating
4 Levon Aronian 2797 5 35 World Cup
5 Fabiano Caruana 2784 7 26 Rating
6 Ding Liren 2769 11 25 World Cup
7 Alexander Grischuk 2767 12 34 Grand Prix
8 Sergey Karjakin 2763 13 28 Runner-up 2016

Metro
23-02-2018, 08:11 PM
The first round is scheduled for March 10 at 3 p.m. local time (9 a.m. Eastern, 6 a.m. Pacific). Below are the full pairings for the tournament.
There are three rest days: on March 13, 17 and 21.

2018 FIDE Candidates' Tournament | Pairings
R1 (10/3) R8 (19/3)
Kramnik Grischuk Grischuk Kramnik
Karjakin Mamedyarov Mamedyarov Karjakin
Aronian Ding Ding Aronian
Caruana So So Caruana

R2 (11/3) R9 (20/3)
Grischuk So So Grischuk
Ding Caruana Caruana Ding
Mamedyarov Aronian Aronian Mamedyarov
Kramnik Karjakin Karjakin Kramnik

R3 (12/3) R10 (22/3)
Karjakin Grischuk Grischuk Karjakin
Aronian Kramnik Kramnik Aronian
Caruana Mamedyarov Mamedyarov Caruana
So Ding Ding So

R4 (14/3) R11 (23/3)
Grischuk Ding Ding Grischuk
Mamedyarov So So Mamedyarov
Kramnik Caruana Caruana Kramnik
Karjakin Aronian Aronian Karjakin

R5 (15/3) R12 (24/3)
Aronian Grischuk Grischuk Aronian
Caruana Karjakin Karjakin Caruana
So Kramnik Kramnik So
Ding Mamedyarov Mamedyarov Ding

R6 (16/3) R13 (26/3)
Caruana Grischuk Mamedyarov Grischuk
So Aronian Ding Kramnik
Ding Karjakin So Karjakin
Mamedyarov Kramnik Caruana Aronian

R7 (18/3) R14 (27/3)
Grischuk Mamedyarov Grischuk Caruana
Kramnik Ding Aronian So
Karjakin So Karjakin Ding
Aronian Caruana Kramnik Mamedyarov

Kevin Bonham
23-02-2018, 08:20 PM
Poll added.

Metro
08-03-2018, 01:29 AM
A brief summary:I will look at factors such as age,form,record in Candidates in Moscow 2 years ago.The event runs for some 2 and a half weeks (incl.rest days) so is gruelling.

Mamedyarov: Had a great 12 months and is world number two.5 years older than Magnus.Did not play in Moscow.This must be a disadvantage in such a tough event.

Kramnik: At 42 is he too old ? Great player but will he have the stamina? Did not play in 2016.It's interesting that he said ""This is most likely my last chance because of my age. I am giving a certain handicap to my opponents as I am by far the oldest player; I should do my best not to make this handicap too dramatic. It is pretty clear that my recent results have been shaky. I will prepare, also physically, to avoid blunders."https://www.chess.com/news/view/kramnik-gets-candidates-wild-card

W.So: At 24 the Filipino-American is the youngest but did not play in Moscow.

Aronian: At 35 he is not young.He finished on 50 % in Moscow.Can he improve? He defeated Ding in Tbilisi to win the 2017 World Cup.

Caruana: Only 25 and finished 2-3 in Moscow.This gives him a decent chance but I am not convinced he can take the next step.

Ding: Only 25 and lost to Aronian in the World Cup.Did not play in Moscow.

Grischuk: At 34 can he do it? Did not play in Moscow.

Karjakin: Ex-Ukraine now Russian and 28 .He won Moscow Candidates by a clear point.Lost only one game, to Vishy.My pick.

Kevin Bonham
08-03-2018, 04:09 PM
I wouldn't take age too seriously as a factor: Anand won one of these things convincingly when older than any of this lot.

Shak indeed didn't play in 2016 but he did play in 2014.

I really wouldn't have a clue who will win this.

Tony Dowden
10-03-2018, 08:41 PM
Poll added.

Why has the poll closed already? They haven't started playing yet!

My vote would have gone to Aronian ... clearly the sentimental favourite :)

Metro
10-03-2018, 09:24 PM
According to this 1st round broadcast commences at 1.00 am https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/fide-berlin-candidates-2018/1/1/1

MichaelBaron
11-03-2018, 02:10 AM
Rd1 one games: so far..pretty boring other than the Aronian's game :)

MichaelBaron
11-03-2018, 10:13 AM
Rd1 one games: so far..pretty boring other than the Aronian's game :)

And what a twist - as play progressed - it turned out to be the only game that was drawn!

Capablanca-Fan
13-03-2018, 01:27 PM
FIDE Candidates' Tournament R3: Kramnik Beats Aronian In Brilliant Style (https://www.chess.com/news/view/fide-candidates-tournament-r3-kramnik-beats-aronian-in-brilliant-style)

Frank
13-03-2018, 02:34 PM
FIDE Candidates' Tournament R3: Kramnik Beats Aronian In Brilliant Style (https://www.chess.com/news/view/fide-candidates-tournament-r3-kramnik-beats-aronian-in-brilliant-style)

Astonishing

Kevin Bonham
13-03-2018, 05:19 PM
Normally I'd be barracking for Kramnik but I don't like having wildcards into the Candidates Final; people should be there by objective process. Amazing win!

Garvinator
13-03-2018, 06:33 PM
Normally I'd be barracking for Kramnik but I don't like having wildcards into the Candidates Final; people should be there by objective process. Amazing win!
You say he is there by the wildcard, as that was awarded early to him, but he is rated number 3 in the world on the current fide rating list. It is not like he is the bottom player by 20 or more points and keeping out someone of higher rating or standard.

Ian Rout
15-03-2018, 08:45 AM
You say he is there by the wildcard, as that was awarded early to him, but he is rated number 3 in the world on the current fide rating list. It is not like he is the bottom player by 20 or more points and keeping out someone of higher rating or standard.Yes, but if Kramnik is the rightful eighth Candidate then that's also an argument against the wild card, because the consequence of having it could have been that he missed out.

Garvinator
15-03-2018, 07:41 PM
Yes, but if Kramnik is the rightful eighth Candidate then that's also an argument against the wild card, because the consequence of having it could have been that he missed out.
I am personally against the wildcard and certainly was not pleased when it was awarded to a Kramnik early, when he was in contention to get in by at least rating of I recall. Why the rush?
I would favour three by rating, rather than two by rating and a wildcard.
But at least they did not give the wildcard to some promising player of the sponsor or country, but is out of the class for this event.

MichaelBaron
15-03-2018, 10:28 PM
Lots of fantastic games....and not many short draws this time!

Capablanca-Fan
16-03-2018, 04:18 AM
Why has the poll closed already? They haven't started playing yet!

My vote would have gone to Aronian ... clearly the sentimental favourite :)
Clearly a plurality among the polled already, including me.

A Carlsen—Aronian match would produce some very interesting games because of their stylistic differences. Caruana would be an interesting challenger.

Kramnik is clearly not to be denied either, as we just saw. It was not right that a silly tiebreak decided that Carlsen and not Kramnik became the challenger to Anand. I think a peak Kramnik (i.e. when he was world champion) and current Carlsen would be even chances. Current Kramnik maybe not so much, because in the phases where he is strongest, Carlsen is just a little bit better (of course these are relative terms; one doesn't become world champ or challenger without excelling in all aspects of the game).

MichaelBaron
16-03-2018, 09:25 AM
Clearly a plurality among the polled already, including me.

A Carlsen—Aronian match would produce some very interesting games because of their stylistic differences. Caruana would be an interesting challenger.

Kramnik is clearly not to be denied either, as we just saw. It was not right that a silly tiebreak decided that Carlsen and not Kramnik became the challenger to Anand. I think a peak Kramnik (i.e. when he was world champion) and current Carlsen would be even chances. Current Kramnik maybe not so much, because in the phases where he is strongest, Carlsen is just a little bit better (of course these are relative terms; one doesn't become world champ or challenger without excelling in all aspects of the game).

Other than Ding, Karjakin (who would doubt) and possibly So - others are playing great fighting chess ..and it sometimes results in more mistakes. Last round, Aronian-Grishuk provided all the excitement. Aronian was +4 at some point...before letting the advantage slip.

Metro
16-03-2018, 08:35 PM
https://www.chess.com/dynboard?fen=2b3kr/ppQ2qb1/3R4/2p2pn1/5pnp/4B3/PP2B2P/4KNR1%20w%20-%20-%206%2029&board=green&piece=neo&size=3
Aronian plays 29.Qd8 and blows it! Instead 29.Qxc8+ Kh7 30.Qc5 wins.

MichaelBaron
16-03-2018, 10:57 PM
https://www.chess.com/dynboard?fen=2b3kr/ppQ2qb1/3R4/2p2pn1/5pnp/4B3/PP2B2P/4KNR1%20w%20-%20-%206%2029&board=green&piece=neo&size=3
Aronian plays 29.Qd8 and blows it! Instead 29.Qxc8+ Kh7 30.Qc5 wins.

The trouble was...all moves looked line winning.

Metro
17-03-2018, 10:29 PM
# Name Rtg Perf 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Pts SB
1 Caruana,Fabiano 2784 2904 ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 4.0/6 11.50
2 Mamedyarov,S 2809 2905 ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 4.0/6 11.00
3 Ding,Liren 2769 2786 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 3.0/6 9.00
4 Grischuk,Alex 2767 2784 ½ ½ 0 1 ½ ½ 3.0/6 8.25
5 Kramnik,Vlad 2800 2786 0 0 1 ½ 1 ½ 3.0/6 7.75
6 So,Wesley 2799 2729 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ 1 2.5/6 7.50
7 Aronian,Levon 2794 2727 ½ ½ ½ 0 0 1 2.5/6 7.00
8 Karjakin,Sergey 2763 2667 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 2.0/6

MichaelBaron
17-03-2018, 10:34 PM
And Grishuk escaped again last night while both Kramnik and Aronian were too impatient as black.

Metro
17-03-2018, 10:48 PM
Vlad plays 34.Rdc8? and loses to Shak.He calls it "A hallucination." Aronian loses to Wesley.Naka said on Twitter
Such a huge fan of watching Lev play when he's on, but it's incredibly frustrating to see him always melt down in this one single event.It's difficult to see him bounce back now,in this event.

MichaelBaron
21-03-2018, 12:42 AM
Lev Is my favorite player too! Right now, Kramnik played very strange looking ft-f5 against Karjakin. SuperGM's play is sometimes hard to understand :(.

Metro
21-03-2018, 10:28 AM
1 GM Grischuk, A.(5) 2767— —GM Karjakin, S.(4½) 2763
2 GM Kramnik, V.(3½) 2800— —GM Aronian, L. (3½) 2794
3 GM Mamedyarov S(5½) 2809— —GM Caruana, F. (6) 2784
4 GM Ding, Liren (4½) 2769— —GM So, Wesley (3½) 2799
Board 3 Shak v Fabi is the one you have been waiting for (but it's on Friday).

Tony Dowden
23-03-2018, 07:42 PM
Why has the poll closed already? They haven't started playing yet!

My vote would have gone to Aronian ... clearly the sentimental favourite :)

Changing my vote to Caruana :lol:

Adamski
24-03-2018, 10:15 PM
Caruana and Shak still lead with 7 and 6.5 out of 11. Lev is dead last. https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/fide-berlin-candidates-2018/1/1/1

MichaelBaron
24-03-2018, 10:37 PM
Hopefully, Karjakin's ''comeback'' will not continue any further...
And yes, very sad for Lev.

Garrett
25-03-2018, 04:58 AM
Wow - close finish coming up !

Kevin Bonham
25-03-2018, 10:00 AM
Hopefully, Karjakin's ''comeback'' will not continue any further...

Karjakin doesn't agree. He is back from 1/4 to lead on tiebreak.

Round 13 (Monday night, Tuesday 1 am Aus DST)

Mamedyarov-Grischuk, Ding Liren-Kramnik, Wesley So-Karjakin, Caruana-Aronian.

Round 14 (Tuesday night, Wednesday 1 am Aus DST)

Grischuk-Caruana, Aronian-Wesley So, Karjakin-Ding Liren, Kramnik-Mamedyarov.

Shame about the timing for Aus audiences.

Metro
25-03-2018, 06:44 PM
Karjakin doesn't agree. He is back from 1/4 to lead on tiebreak.
Tiebreaks


3. 7 Tie-breaks
If the top two or more players score the same points, the tie will be decided by the following criteria, in order of priority:
a) The results of the games between the players involved in the tie.
If they are still tied:
b) The total number of wins in the tournament of every player involved in the tie.
If they are still tied:
c) Sonneborn - Berger System.
3.7.1.a If there is no clear winner with the above 3 criteria, there will be a special competition between the players who still remain
tied after using the 3rd criteria (Sonneborn - Berger): after a new drawing of colors, each tied player will play two (2) tie-break games
with the other tied opponent(s). The games shall be played using the electronic clock starting with 25 minutes for each player with an
increment of 10 seconds after each move.

MichaelBaron
26-03-2018, 06:00 PM
and Karjakin is black against So who is content with draw...then last round ..Ding needs to play for win as black against him..so his chances look good ;(

Garrett
27-03-2018, 03:11 AM
Okay Grischuk-Caruana and Karjakin-Ding Liren in the last round are going to be epic.

Interestingly no-one chose Grischuk in the poll yet a win puts him in front of Caruana and possibly into the WC match !

Bill Gletsos
27-03-2018, 06:08 AM
Okay Grischuk-Caruana and Karjakin-Ding Liren in the last round are going to be epic.

Interestingly no-one chose Grischuk in the poll yet a win puts him in front of Caruana and possibly into the WC match !How does Grischuk get in front of Caruana given Grischuk is on 6.5 and Caruana is on 8.

Garrett
27-03-2018, 01:26 PM
Yes it would be a neat trick !

My mistake, misread the result.

Cheers

Kevin Bonham
27-03-2018, 05:44 PM
Just don't ever give FIDE ideas about making the last game worth double points!

Kevin Bonham
27-03-2018, 06:07 PM
https://twitter.com/PHChess/status/978539788243492864

Peter Heine Neilsen's assessment, but I am not sure Caruana's hand is that good; he has black after all.

Grischuk-Caruana
Aronian-Wesley So - this game is irrelevant
Karjakin-Ding Liren
Kramnik-Mamedyarov

Desmond
27-03-2018, 07:34 PM
Looks like the chesschat tipping mockers are alive and well, with the favourite already assured of dead last. :)

Tony Dowden
27-03-2018, 09:24 PM
Changing my vote to Caruana :lol:

C'mon Caruana!

Kevin Bonham
27-03-2018, 10:46 PM
Looks like the chesschat tipping mockers are alive and well, with the favourite already assured of dead last. :)

They voted with the heart not the head. As atrocious as my tipping often is, at least I couldn't be accused of that.

MichaelBaron
27-03-2018, 11:26 PM
As long as its not Karjakin..any winner will do for me :)

Kevin Bonham
27-03-2018, 11:54 PM
It seems that Ding might be playing into Karjakin's hands.

This tweet https://twitter.com/chessbrahTV/status/978629651479322629 gives all the tiebreak possibilities.

Kevin Bonham
28-03-2018, 01:46 AM
It seems that Ding might be playing into Karjakin's hands.

Or not.

Kevin Bonham
28-03-2018, 03:29 AM
Karjakin - Ding draw. Caruana looking good as he has a great position but a draw is probably enough.

Kevin Bonham
28-03-2018, 04:14 AM
Caruana home now, just not clear if he wins his last game or not.

Garrett
28-03-2018, 07:05 AM
Well done to Caruana !

Ding didn't lose a game. Sure there's some "Great wall of China" joke in there somewhere ....

Looking forward to the WC match now.

cheers

Desmond
28-03-2018, 07:52 AM
Changing my vote to Caruana :lol:

I'd like to change mine too

Vlad
28-03-2018, 09:17 AM
Times passes - nothing changes. Same two boring "Kar"s are playing against each other.:)

Well, there is a slight change. Last time it was a Norwegian Kar against a Russian one. This time it is a Norwegian Kar against an American one...:)

Adamski
28-03-2018, 12:24 PM
Times passes - nothing changes. Same two boring "Kar"s are playing against each other.:)

Well, there is a slight change. Last time it was a Norwegian Kar against a Russian one. This time it is a Norwegian Kar against an American one...:)


LOL. Congrats to Fab though. A fab performance!

MichaelBaron
28-03-2018, 11:07 PM
Times passes - nothing changes. Same two boring "Kar"s are playing against each other.:)

Well, there is a slight change. Last time it was a Norwegian Kar against a Russian one. This time it is a Norwegian Kar against an American one...:)

Ding would be even worse...
These days I barrack for Kramnik (player I did not like before for the very same reason i do not like Caruana that much) and as always - for Aronian...sadly he disappointed.
As for Kramnik - he tends to be playing for enjoyment more than anything else.

Desmond
26-02-2021, 09:59 AM
So had a very nice win over Aronian in the anti-Marshall. Good analysis on chessbase India (https://chessbase.in/news/Candidates_2018_Round_6)also.

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 O-O 8. a4 b4 9. a5 d6 10. d3 Be6 11. Bxe6 fxe6 12. Nbd2 Rb8 13. Nb3 Qc8 14. h3 Nd8 15. Be3 c5 16. Nbd2 Nc6 17. c3 Rb5 18. d4 exd4 19. cxd4 Nxa5 20. dxc5 dxc5 21. Ra2 Qb7 22. b3 Kh8 23. Qc2 Nd7 24. Rea1 Bd8 25. Nc4 Nxc4 26. Qxc4 Bf6 27. Rd1 Qc6 28. Rad2 Nb6 29. Qc2 Qc7 30. e5 Be7 31. Nd4 Rc8 32. Nxe6 Qxe5 33. Nf4 Rf8 34. Re2 Qc3 35. Qb1 Qf6 36. Bc1 c4 37. bxc4 Nxc4 38. Re6 Qg5 39. Ng6+ Qxg6 40. Rxg6 hxg6 41. Qe4 Bf6 42. Qxc4 b3 43. Ba3 Rfb8 44. Rb1 b2 45. h4 Ra5 46. Qd3 Rd8 47. Qb3 Rc8 48. Qb7 Rd8 49. Qb3 Rc8 50.Qb4 Rb5 51. Qg4 Rc3 52. Bxb2 Rxb2 53. Rxb2 Rc1+ 54. Kh2 Bxb2 55. Qxg6 Ra1 56. g4 a5 57. Qh5+ Kg8 58. Qb5 Ba3 59. Qe5 Rd1 60. Qe6+ Kh7 61. Qe4+ Kh8 62. Qa8+ Kh7 63. Qxa5 Bd6+ 64. Kg2 Rd4 65. Qf5+ Kh8 66. Qh5+ Kg8 67. g5 Kf8 68. Qg6 Be7 69. Qf5+ Ke8 70. Kh3 Rd6 71. Qh7 Kf7 72. f4 Rd4 73. Qf5+ Ke8 74. Qe5 Rb4 75. Kg4 Kf8 76. Qf5+ Ke8 77. Qe6 Rd4 78. Qe5 1-0