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ER
03-12-2015, 10:57 PM
7th London Chess Classic
Event starts Sat, Dec 5 2015 3:00 AM AEST

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/london-chess-classic-2015/1/1/1

MichaelBaron
04-12-2015, 12:25 AM
Australian Stephen Jago taking part in the U2000 section :)

ER
04-12-2015, 12:56 PM
No poll for this one?

this is not an elimination tournament so I am tipping only one winner!

Alexander Grischuk!!!

Kevin Bonham
04-12-2015, 03:30 PM
Poll open for 48 hours.

ER
04-12-2015, 03:40 PM
thanks Kev!

Kevin Bonham
04-12-2015, 09:47 PM
With a start time of 3 am our time, I don't think I'll be either staying up or getting up for these.

ER
04-12-2015, 11:08 PM
With a start time of 3 am our time, I don't think I'll be either staying up or getting up for these.

well, I think it's ok to look at results while having breakfast and then going through some games when back at home! :) I am going to be doing that! Now if I stay late out
as I do on Wed, Frid, and Sat nights I might wait for an hour or so to watch an opening, or two and listen to some commentary!

ER
06-12-2015, 09:36 AM
Utterly disappointed. One decisive game only after ten encounters! They might have been fighting draws maybe yes, maybe not... but hey!

Kevin Bonham
06-12-2015, 10:47 AM
Utterly disappointed. One decisive game only after ten encounters! They might have been fighting draws maybe yes, maybe not... but hey!

Nakamura vs Vachier-Lagrave was an exciting draw. The rest, not so much.

ER
06-12-2015, 03:40 PM
Nakamura vs Vachier-Lagrave was an exciting draw. The rest, not so much.

Well that's something! I am going through the games now. ALexander was lucky vs Nakamura and hilarious in the analysis room! :)

MichaelBaron
07-12-2015, 09:57 AM
Rd3 - Grishuk was not so lucky as he was playing the Berlin endgame very well for a long time and had big edge. Actually, very boring chess (mostly) at London so far. Lots of Boring Berlin endgames. Topalov appears to be the only one to play chess that is not too boring and he paid the price by overreaching with black against Lagrave.

Ian Rout
07-12-2015, 11:22 AM
I haven't played through most of the games yet but the descriptions sound as if the Blacks are being made to earn the draws rather than both players turning up to collect half a point, so there are contests in that sense. That also suggests the possibility of more results when the physical and mental strain and the imperative of the approaching finish line kick in.

ER
08-12-2015, 05:34 AM
looks like we 'll have results today. Having said that, I just saw Giri's game is drawn! :)
and so it's Alexander's!
Not so peaceful for Mike and Vishy though!
Statistically speaking Nakamura has now a 6-1 score in classical chess vs Vishy!
Before I left base Mike was still holding but only just!...
(back for a few) As was Fabio vs Vesko!
LATEST: Michael held!
LATEST, LATEST: And apparently so did Fabio!

Agent Smith
08-12-2015, 05:10 PM
Hmm - Vishy didnt even fight the end game.
[Event "7th London Classic 2015"]
[Site "London ENG"]
[Date "2015.12.07"]
[Round "4.1"]
[White "Nakamura, Hikaru"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2793"]
[BlackElo "2803"]
[ECO "E06"]
[EventDate "2015.12.04"]
[WhiteTitle "GM"]
[BlackTitle "GM"]
[Opening "Catalan"]
[Variation "closed, 5.Nf3"]
[WhiteFideId "2016192"]
[BlackFideId "5000017"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. c4 d5 4. g3 Be7 5. Bg2 O-O 6. Qc2 c5 7. O-O cxd4 8. Nxd4 Qb6 9. Rd1 Nc6 10. Nxc6 Qxc6 11. Bg5 h6 12. Bxf6 Bxf6 13. Na3 Bd7 14. Rab1 Rac8 15. Qd3 Rfd8 16. cxd5 Qa4 17. Rd2 b5 18. Rbd1 exd5 19. Bxd5 Bc6 20. e4 a6 21. h4 Bxd5 22. exd5 Qb4 23. Rb1 Qa5 24. b4 Qa4 25. Rb3 Be7 26. Re2 Rc7 27. Kg2 Bf6 28. Qf3 Re7 29. Rd2 Red7 30. Qe2 g6 31. h5 g5 32. Qd1 Bg7 33. Nc2 Qxa2 34. Ne3 Qa1 35. Qxa1 Bxa1 36. Ra2 Bd4 37. Nf5 Bg7 38. Rxa6 Bf8 39. d6 Bxd6 40. Nxh6+ Kh7 41. Ng4
( {[Critter 1.6a 64-bit] 22:+3.17} 41. Ng4 Be7 42. Rf3 Rf8 43. Ne5 Rc7 44. Nxf7 g4 45. Rh6+ Kg7 46. Rg6+ Kh7 47. Ng5+ Kh8 48. Rxf8+ Bxf8 49. Ne6 Rc1 50. Rxg4 Bh6 51. f4 Kh7 52. Rg6 Rc8 53. g4 Ra8 54. g5 Bf8 )
1-0

MichaelBaron
08-12-2015, 09:11 PM
Hmm - Vishy didnt even fight the end game.
[Event "7th London Classic 2015"]
[Site "London ENG"]
[Date "2015.12.07"]
[Round "4.1"]
[White "Nakamura, Hikaru"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2793"]
[BlackElo "2803"]
[ECO "E06"]
[EventDate "2015.12.04"]
[WhiteTitle "GM"]
[BlackTitle "GM"]
[Opening "Catalan"]
[Variation "closed, 5.Nf3"]
[WhiteFideId "2016192"]
[BlackFideId "5000017"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. c4 d5 4. g3 Be7 5. Bg2 O-O 6. Qc2 c5 7. O-O cxd4 8. Nxd4 Qb6 9. Rd1 Nc6 10. Nxc6 Qxc6 11. Bg5 h6 12. Bxf6 Bxf6 13. Na3 Bd7 14. Rab1 Rac8 15. Qd3 Rfd8 16. cxd5 Qa4 17. Rd2 b5 18. Rbd1 exd5 19. Bxd5 Bc6 20. e4 a6 21. h4 Bxd5 22. exd5 Qb4 23. Rb1 Qa5 24. b4 Qa4 25. Rb3 Be7 26. Re2 Rc7 27. Kg2 Bf6 28. Qf3 Re7 29. Rd2 Red7 30. Qe2 g6 31. h5 g5 32. Qd1 Bg7 33. Nc2 Qxa2 34. Ne3 Qa1 35. Qxa1 Bxa1 36. Ra2 Bd4 37. Nf5 Bg7 38. Rxa6 Bf8 39. d6 Bxd6 40. Nxh6+ Kh7 41. Ng4
( {[Critter 1.6a 64-bit] 22:+3.17} 41. Ng4 Be7 42. Rf3 Rf8 43. Ne5 Rc7 44. Nxf7 g4 45. Rh6+ Kg7 46. Rg6+ Kh7 47. Ng5+ Kh8 48. Rxf8+ Bxf8 49. Ne6 Rc1 50. Rxg4 Bh6 51. f4 Kh7 52. Rg6 Rc8 53. g4 Ra8 54. g5 Bf8 )
1-0

After this win, Naka's score against Anand is 6-1 (draws excluded)

Thebes
08-12-2015, 09:52 PM
Also, Hrant Melkumyan, Emma Guo, Pengyu Chen and Yi Liu all playing in the London Open

Bereaved
08-12-2015, 11:56 PM
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. c4 d5 4. g3 Be7 5. Bg2 O-O 6. Qc2 c5 7. O-O cxd4 8. Nxd4 Qb6 9. Rd1 Nc6 10. Nxc6 Qxc6 11. Bg5 h6 12. Bxf6 Bxf6 13. Na3 Bd7 14. Rab1 Rac8 15. Qd3 Rfd8 16. cxd5 Qa4 17. Rd2 b5 18. Rbd1 exd5 19. Bxd5 Bc6 20. e4 a6 21. h4 Bxd5 22. exd5 Qb4 23. Rb1 Qa5 24. b4 Qa4 25. Rb3 Be7 26. Re2 Rc7 27. Kg2 Bf6 28. Qf3 Re7 29. Rd2 Red7 30. Qe2 g6 31. h5 g5 32. Qd1 Bg7 33. Nc2 Qxa2 34. Ne3 Qa1 35. Qxa1 Bxa1 36. Ra2 Bd4 37. Nf5 Bg7 38. Rxa6 Bf8 39. d6 Bxd6 40. Nxh6+ Kh7 41. Ng4

ER
09-12-2015, 01:24 PM
Topalov loses again!
After 5 rounds only 1/2 pt separates 9 players!

MichaelBaron
10-12-2015, 03:10 PM
Also, Hrant Melkumyan, Emma Guo, Pengyu Chen and Yi Liu all playing in the London Open

Hrant is Armenian not Auzzie :). Unfortunately dating an Australian chess player does not automatically makes someone an Australian. Otherwise we would have a great team starring Aronian and Melkumyan.

Thebes
10-12-2015, 04:15 PM
Didn't say he was Australian, his participant in tournaments outside Melbourne has made people outside Melbourne interested in his results.

Overseas Tournament News and Results -

Agent Smith
12-12-2015, 06:12 AM
Topalov and Anand getting hammered this tournament.
Round 6, Topalov was up a rook for a piece, but failed to win against Adams.
Round 7 , Vishy was out manouvered in a nice game.
(Not sure about the last few moves)

[White "GMAnand"]
[Black "GMVachierLagrave"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be2 e5 7. Nb3 Be7 8. Be3 Be6 9. Nd5 Nbd7 10. Qd3 O-O 11. c4 b5 12. Nd2 Nc5 13. Bxc5 dxc5 14. b3 Bxd5 15. cxd5 Ne8 16. O-O Nd6 17. a4 Bg5 18. Nf3 Bf4 19. axb5 f5 20. Nd2 Qg5 21. Rad1 axb5 22. exf5 Ra3 23. Ne4 c4 24. Qc2 Qxf5 25. Qb2 Rxb3 26. Qxb3 cxb3 27. Nxd6 Qg6 28. Nxb5 e4 29. d6 b2 30. Nd4 Qxd6 31. Bc4+ Kh8 32. Ne6 Bxh2+ 33. Kh1 Rxf2 34. Ng5 Bg3 35. Nf7+ Rxf7 0-1

ER
12-12-2015, 08:54 AM
Naca just resigned after Magnus's superior endgame technique!
Worth watching and analysing this game! :)
A really exciting round with three decisive games.
In regards to the poll, can we now proceed into some suggestions of
who has still realistic chances of winning it?
With two rounds to go that is!

Agent Smith
12-12-2015, 01:42 PM
7th London Classic 2015
London ENG, 2015.12.04 - 2015.12.11
Average Rating: 2787 (Category 22)
Rtng Age Nat Score V C G G A C N A A T Perf Chg
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1: Vachier-Lagrave, Maxime 2773 25 FRA 4.5 / 7 X = = = . = = . 1 1 2896 +12 (+2 -0 =5)
2: Carlsen, Magnus 2850 25 NOR 4.0 / 7 = X = . = = 1 = = . 2828 -2 (+1 -0 =6)
3: Giri, Anish 2784 21 NED 4.0 / 7 = = X = = = . = . 1 2832 +4 (+1 -0 =6)
4: Grischuk, Alexander 2750 32 RUS 4.0 / 7 = . = X . = = = 1 = 2831 +8 (+1 -0 =6)
5: Aronian, Levon 2788 33 ARM 4.0 / 7 . = = . X = = = = 1 2844 +6 (+1 -0 =6)
6: Caruana, Fabiano 2787 23 ITA 3.5 / 7 = = = = = X = . . = 2789 +1 (+0 -0 =7)
7: Nakamura, Hikaru 2793 28 USA 3.5 / 7 = 0 . = = = X = 1 . 2782 -1 (+1 -1 =5)
8: Adams, Michael 2744 44 ENG 3.5 / 7 . = = = = . = X = = 2794 +5 (+0 -0 =7)
9: Anand, Viswanathan 2803 46 IND 2.5 / 7 0 = . 0 = . 0 = X 1 2682 -12 (+1 -3 =3)
10: Topalov, Veselin 2803 40 BUL 1.5 / 7 0 . 0 = 0 = . = 0 X 2543 -24 (+0 -4 =3)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ian Rout
12-12-2015, 03:21 PM
In regards to the poll, can we now proceed into some suggestions of
who has still realistic chances of winning it?
With two rounds to go that is!
I would think anyone who didn't go for Anand or Topalov (= everybody who voted) has a realistic chance, since the other players can get to +2 which could well be the winning score (realistically rather than just mathematically possible).

ER
12-12-2015, 08:03 PM
I would think anyone who didn't go for Anand or Topalov (= everybody who voted) has a realistic chance, since the other players can get to +2 which could well be the winning score (realistically rather than just mathematically possible).

OK thanks! We can expect some real fighting chess in the last two rounds.
FM Michael Baron when asked earlier this afternoon to comment on the quality of play he said.
"Everyone seems to be playing it as safe as possible, the only one who plays all out for a win is GM Vaselin Topalov and that's the reason he is faring so badly"!

Ian Rout
13-12-2015, 09:26 AM
OK thanks! We can expect some real fighting chess in the last two rounds.
FM Michael Baron when asked earlier this afternoon to comment on the quality of play he said.
"Everyone seems to be playing it as safe as possible, the only one who plays all out for a win is GM Vaselin Topalov and that's the reason he is faring so badly"!You can cross off Nakamura now and move Adams and Caruana to highly unlikely. The two leaders both have Black tomorrow. An interesting (and realistic) scenario is Carlsen winning tonight and taking first place on tie-break.

Ian Rout
13-12-2015, 11:15 AM
You can cross off Nakamura now and move Adams and Caruana to highly unlikely. The two leaders both have Black tomorrow. An interesting (and realistic) scenario is Carlsen winning tonight and taking first place on tie-break.
Update: In fact Adams and Caruana are definitely out, as Aronian plays MVL so one of them will be at least +2.

ER
14-12-2015, 08:20 AM
You can cross off Nakamura now and move Adams and Caruana to highly unlikely. The two leaders both have Black tomorrow. An interesting (and realistic) scenario is Carlsen winning tonight and taking first place on tie-break.

It's Magnus versus Maxim right now! :)
And Magnus is one up!
Maxim 's playing white next game.
GM Grischuk's commentary was a great free lecture in R+P endings! :clap:
Unfortunately he has left the building!
Developments in London.
GM Grischuk is back in the commentary room bringing GM Aronian with him!
GM Grischuk: If Magnus wins this, he wins everything!
GM King. Yes, he does!
GM Grischuk: So I have created a monster!!!
And indeed, last game was drawn and Magnus is the big winner!

Ian Rout
14-12-2015, 08:49 AM
It's Magnus versus Maxim right now! :)
And Magnus is one up!
Maxim 's playing white next game.
Ah, right. I didn't realise there were playoffs. Though Carlsen should win from here anyway.

Ian Rout
14-12-2015, 10:59 AM
I caught the end of the first Carlsen v MVL game and it was interesting to note the number of intertwits asserting that MVL had simply blown a drawn ending through carelessness. It's a pity that the technology which is available to prevent drunks starting a car hasn't been extended to stop the intellectually challenged from getting access to chess sites.

Vlad
14-12-2015, 11:15 AM
Just out of curiosity Ian, how do you know that you are better informed (or a stronger player) compared to them??

It did look like a very bad blunder to me.

ER
14-12-2015, 11:20 AM
Ah, right. I didn't realise there were playoffs. Though Carlsen should win from here anyway.

No problems, it was interesting to follow your elimination process!



It's a pity that the technology which is available to prevent drunks starting a car hasn't been extended to stop the intellectually challenged from getting access to chess sites.

If such a measure was introduced in actual tournament participation I am afraid that entry numbers would be significantly reduced! :P

Ian Rout
14-12-2015, 12:22 PM
Just out of curiosity Ian, how do you know that you are better informed (or a stronger player) compared to them??

It did look like a very bad blunder to me.

It's a blunder in the technical sense that it was a tablebase draw, but I would think difficult to judge at that time limit.

It's possible the people commenting were really knowledgeable but they seemed more to believe both that it was a dead draw and that MVL had simply forgotten his h-pawn was loose.

Vlad
14-12-2015, 01:15 PM
No, as far as I could see people where complaining about 56...Ra6 move which was trivially refuted by 57. Rf3. If black instead played Rf2 or Rf1, I think it is a very simple draw.

What white can do? If white moves the king to g6 then check and the position is repeated. If Rh7+ then Kf8 and Kg8 next move; the back-rank defense is reached.

So it was clear that it was just a terrible blunder; he resigned immediately confirming my arguments.

Ian Rout
14-12-2015, 03:08 PM
No, as far as I could see people where complaining about 56...Ra6 move which was trivially refuted by 57. Rf3. If black instead played Rf2 or Rf1, I think it is a very simple draw.

What white can do? If white moves the king to g6 then check and the position is repeated. If Rh7+ then Kf8 and Kg8 next move; the back-rank defense is reached.

So it was clear that it was just a terrible blunder; he resigned immediately confirming my arguments.In that case we may be talking about different things. Though after 56...Rf1/2 both Stockfish and Nalimov give 57.Rh7+ winning (of course engines are subject to horizon effects, though Stockfish gives +120 so presumably sees through to winning the Rook). A bit technical for me but the idea seems to be that the back rank defence can't be achieved since the R on the f-file costs Black a tempo (Rf7 when the K is on h8), which might be why 51...Rf1 was bad, rather than a1.

Vlad
14-12-2015, 08:14 PM
Sure, you are right but not everybody is using Stockfish and Nalimov. I can see why it is winning now - Rf7 when the king is in the corner is critical.

People where looking at the computer analysis and after Ra6 it become obvious that black is lost. Well, not so easy to see this 5-6 move variation that includes Rf7. I still think Rf1 was a better try - at least black could play a few more moves and see whether white can find this idea with limited time.