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Sir Cromulent Sparkles
10-10-2013, 09:22 PM
I have recently read this book and have decided to add the 1.Nf3 c5 and 1.c4 c5 lines to my black responses.

I am interested in finding out whether there is anybody familiar with this title who has an opinion on the reliability of these specific lines and whether there are any "holes" that palliser may have overlooked.

Obviously the "1.c4 c5 2.miscellaneous lines" was something i needed to find information from elsewhere so was wondering if this was the only aspect of his recommended that needed additional research.

cheers.

count d.

Agent Smith
12-10-2013, 08:05 PM
I like
1.c4 b5 2.cxb5 c6
for the suprise value. Probably not at all related to OP though. :)

Capablanca-Fan
18-10-2013, 11:16 AM
I like
1.c4 b5 2.cxb5 c6
for the surprise value. Probably not at all related to OP though. :)
A free pawn for absolutely zilch—what a nice surprise!

MichaelBaron
11-10-2014, 12:21 AM
A free pawn for absolutely zilch—what a nice surprise!

And it is a central pawn too~! Whilt can simply complete development with g3-Bg2 without giving black any targets for counterattack

Agent Smith
11-10-2014, 01:21 PM
Some people do play chess for *fun* you know. But i actually hardly use that one.

As white, i've been playing the grob with a simliar idea.
My record for 1.g4 d5 2.Bg2 isn't too bad. It really takes the game into a crazy place quite quickly.


Move Frequency Score AvElo Perf AvYear Draw ECO
1: Bxg4 43: 60.5% 68.6% 2014 0% A00o
2: c6 9: 12.6% 55.5% 2014 0% A00o
3: e5 9: 12.6% 77.7% 2014 0% A00o
4: Nf6 3: 4.2% 100.0% 2014 0%
5: e6 3: 4.2% 66.6% 2014 0%
6: Nc6 1: 1.4% 100.0% 2014 0%
7: Bd7 1: 1.4% 100.0% 2014 0%
8: Be6 1: 1.4% 100.0% 2014 0%
9: c5 1: 1.4% 100.0% 2014 0%

Actually sacrificing the rook (intentionally or not), is my least favourite scenario. White has a very exposed king, and my record is poor.

1.g4 d5 2.Bg2 Bxg4 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxb7 Nd7 5.Bxa8 Qxa8 6.f3 *


1: Bh5 2: 40.0% 50.0% 2014 0%
2: Ngf6 1: 20.0% 0.0% 2014 0%
3: Be6 1: 20.0% 100.0% 2014 0%
4: e5 1: 20.0% 50.0% 2014 0%
__________________________________________________ ________________
TOTAL: 5:100.0% 50.0% 2014 0%

MichaelBaron
11-10-2014, 10:47 PM
Some people do play chess for *fun* you know. But i actually hardly use that one.

As white, i've been playing the grob with a simliar idea.
My record for 1.g4 d5 2.Bg2 isn't too bad. It really takes the game into a crazy place quite quickly.


Move Frequency Score AvElo Perf AvYear Draw ECO
1: Bxg4 43: 60.5% 68.6% 2014 0% A00o
2: c6 9: 12.6% 55.5% 2014 0% A00o
3: e5 9: 12.6% 77.7% 2014 0% A00o
4: Nf6 3: 4.2% 100.0% 2014 0%
5: e6 3: 4.2% 66.6% 2014 0%
6: Nc6 1: 1.4% 100.0% 2014 0%
7: Bd7 1: 1.4% 100.0% 2014 0%
8: Be6 1: 1.4% 100.0% 2014 0%
9: c5 1: 1.4% 100.0% 2014 0%

Actually sacrificing the rook (intentionally or not), is my least favourite scenario. White has a very exposed king, and my record is poor.

1.g4 d5 2.Bg2 Bxg4 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxb7 Nd7 5.Bxa8 Qxa8 6.f3 *


1: Bh5 2: 40.0% 50.0% 2014 0%
2: Ngf6 1: 20.0% 0.0% 2014 0%
3: Be6 1: 20.0% 100.0% 2014 0%
4: e5 1: 20.0% 50.0% 2014 0%
__________________________________________________ ________________
TOTAL: 5:100.0% 50.0% 2014 0%
This is actually quite tricky :)