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Grant Szuveges
24-10-2011, 11:21 PM
CHESS VICTORIA AND
MELBOURNE CHESS CLUB
PRESENT

THE
VICTORIAN BLITZ CHAMPIONSHIP
2011
Venue: Melbourne Chess Club, 66 Leicester Street, Fitzroy, 3065

Date: Sunday 4th December, 12 noon.

Entry Fee: Free for GMs, IMs, WGMs, WIMs. $25 for everyone else.

Rate of play: 5 minutes per player per game.

Format: 13 round Swiss.

Pairings: Swissperfect will be used.

Prizes: 1st $250, 2nd $150, 3rd $100, 4th $50, rating prizes totalling $100.

Entries: By cash on the day, or by cheque to Melbourne Chess Club Inc. Entries close at 11.30am, Sunday 4th December.

Grant Szuveges
24-10-2011, 11:26 PM
Im pleased to announce that the Melbourne Chess Club, the spiritual home of fast chess in Victoria will once again be hosting the 2011 Victorian Blitz Championship. Once again we are offering value for money with a bumper 13 round swiss. Hopefully most of Victoria's strongest players will participate. And if that is not enough excitement for you, stay around afterwards for the CV AGM!

Grant Szuveges
03-11-2011, 08:20 PM
Kerry Stead will be the arbiter for this event. Kerry is a member of the CV committee and thus represents players from all clubs.

Grant Szuveges
22-11-2011, 12:30 AM
I have started a facebook page for this event (titled 2011 Victorian Blitz Championship). You can register to play by confirming via facebook.

Of course I can only invite people who I know on facebook, but Ive asked Kerry Stead and Leonid Sandler to invite those who they know who are not already invited.

Anyone who has been invited can invite friends to a "public event" via facebook, so the invite will circulate through the chess scene very quickly.

For those of you not on facebook, you can also register by calling me, emailing me or posting here.

Cheers, Grant

Grant Szuveges
24-11-2011, 04:03 PM
The facebook registrations are coming along well, however I will also start a list of entries here as not everyone is on facebook.

LIST OF ENTRIES: 4

Michael ADDAMO
Cedric ANTOLIS
Frank LEKKAS
Sylvester URBAN

Arbiter: Kerry STEAD

Grant Szuveges
25-11-2011, 02:23 PM
LIST OF ENTRIES: 6

Michael ADDAMO
Cedric ANTOLIS
Ari DALE
Finley DALE
Frank LEKKAS
Sylvester URBAN

Arbiter: Kerry STEAD

Grant Szuveges
28-11-2011, 10:35 AM
LIST OF ENTRIES: 7

Michael ADDAMO
Cedric ANTOLIS
Ari DALE
Finley DALE
Frank LEKKAS
Dusan STOJIC
Sylvester URBAN

Arbiter: Kerry STEAD

Kerry Stead
04-12-2011, 12:08 PM
24 entrants
Over half the field rated over 1800!
Leaders after 3 rounds:
Sandler, Stojic & Tan, all on 3/3.

that Caesar guy
04-12-2011, 02:09 PM
I couldn't believe the behavior exhibited by Leonid Sandler today. He bashed the pieces down with such force, it was extremely difficult to concentrate, even on the adjacent board. And when I won a piece for nothing in an ending, the piece-banging rose to such an extreme level that focus became impossible. Absolutely disgusting.

antichrist
04-12-2011, 02:30 PM
I couldn't believe the behavior exhibited by Leonid Sandler today. He bashed the pieces down with such force, it was extremely difficult to concentrate, even on the adjacent board. And when I won a piece for nothing in an ending, the piece-banging rose to such an extreme level that focus became impossible. Absolutely disgusting.

I take it you won both games? That means you defeated him between posts 8 & 9?

MichaelBaron
04-12-2011, 03:05 PM
Final scores, pls!
Did extra piece won over banging or banging won over the extra piece?

antichrist
04-12-2011, 03:12 PM
Final scores, pls!
Did extra piece won over banging or banging won over the extra piece?

I have seen it happen when pieces were knocked off board and piece left on floor so was sort of "won" by oppponent

ER
04-12-2011, 03:17 PM
Final scores, pls!
Did extra piece won over banging or banging won over the extra piece?

Best question ever asked on the result of a blitz game!!!:clap: A real classic! :lol:

that Caesar guy
04-12-2011, 03:21 PM
Final scores, pls!
Did extra piece won over banging or banging won over the extra piece?
The banging won, try concentrating when the board shakes with every movement and the clock is on the verge of breaking

ER
04-12-2011, 03:27 PM
The banging won, try concentrating when the board shakes with every movement and the clock is on the verge of breaking

Call Mischa next time, she 'll show them! :lol:

MichaelBaron
04-12-2011, 03:28 PM
The banging won, try concentrating when the board shakes with every movement and the clock is on the verge of breaking
I would not even try. I think clock should be stopped and arbiter called over. The arbiter may even know the rules if you are lucky

ER
04-12-2011, 03:36 PM
I would not even try. I think clock should be stopped and arbiter called over. The arbiter may even know the rules if you are lucky

If you had a closer look on this thread (#2) ...


Kerry Stead will be the arbiter for this event. Kerry is a member of the CV committee and thus represents players from all clubs.

... then you would have been pleased to know that the tournament was directed by one of the best (close to the very best in my opinion) arbiters Australia ever had!

MichaelBaron
04-12-2011, 03:42 PM
JAK I know that in your opinion everyone is the best ....the world is beautiful and very pink...but if the clock banging did take place - the arbiter needs to interfere.

that Caesar guy
04-12-2011, 03:50 PM
JAK I know that in your opinion everyone is the best ....the world is beautiful and very pink...but if the clock banging did take place - the arbiter needs to interfere.
It wasn't just against me...it happened every round that I saw Leonid play in...he was just as bad against Bobby too

ER
04-12-2011, 03:52 PM
JAK I know that in your opinion everyone is the best ....the world is beautiful and very pink...but if the clock banging did take place - the arbiter needs to interfere.

:lol: Indeed in my beautiful world I have no time for minor incidents. But how the hell do you know that the arbiter

1) was called
2) didn't interfere if he noticed the incident
3) didn't make a decision

James is clearly protesting Leonid's actions here and not Kerry's arbitering.

that Caesar guy
04-12-2011, 03:54 PM
:lol: Indeed in my beautiful world I have no time for minor incidents. But how the hell do you know that the arbiter

1) was called
2) didn't interfere if he noticed the incident
3) didn't make a decision

James is clearly protesting Leonid's actions here and not Kerry's arbitering.
I didn't call the arbiter, and I definitely should have. But it wasn't the first time he did that today, so...

ER
04-12-2011, 04:05 PM
I didn't call the arbiter, and I definitely should have. But it wasn't the first time he did that today, so...

I agree that this, being one of the strongest, if not the strongest blitz tournaments in Australia, special attantion should have been given to the top boards at least.

Then again, known the meticulous approach of Kerry's to various aspects of arbitering, particularly if he didn't have any assistance I can suggest that he was occupied with other duties as well.

In conclusion, I don't think concrete opinions should be formed especially by people non present (*) in the event before we hear all sides of the story and in particular, Leonid's and other players' as well as Kerry's!

(*) Damn it I could have been there since I was invited by Leonid to attend the AGM, as well as having participated in the tournament; however, I am so busy organising my o/s travels for the next few months as well as having visitors staying here for the weekend!

Ian CCC
04-12-2011, 04:36 PM
For reference, these are the FIDE laws that apply in these situations:


6.7 c. The players must handle the chess clock properly. It is forbidden to punch it forcibly, to pick it up or to knock it over. Improper clock handling shall be penalised in accordance with Article 13.4.

12.6 It is forbidden to distract or annoy the opponent in any manner whatsoever. This includes unreasonable claims, unreasonable offers of a draw or the introduction of a source of noise into the playing area.

13.2 The arbiter shall act in the best interest of the competition. He should ensure that a good playing environment is maintained and that the players are not disturbed. He shall supervise the progress of the competition.

13.3 The arbiter shall observe the games, especially when the players are short of time, enforce decisions he has made and impose penalties on players where appropriate.

13.4 The arbiter can apply one or more of the following penalties:

a. warning
b. increasing the remaining time of the opponent
c. reducing the remaining time of the offending player
d. declaring the game to be lost
e. reducing the points scored in the game by the offending party
f. increasing the points scored in the game by the opponent to the maximum available for that game
g. expulsion from the event.

13.5 The arbiter may award either or both players additional time in the event of external disturbance of the game.

Keong Ang
04-12-2011, 04:38 PM
I didn't call the arbiter, and I definitely should have. But it wasn't the first time he did that today, so...

From what is described, I'm quite surprised that the arbiter did not intervene. It surely sounds like very disruptive and noisy piece thumping, clock punching, table rattling games were occurring. Something an arbiter would have noticed without being called, especially if occurring in top board games.

Some relevant articles in the Laws of Chess that applies:

Article6.7.c.
The players must handle the chess clock properly. It is forbidden to punch it forcibly, to pick it up or to knock it over. Improper clock handling shall be penalised in accordance with Article 13.4.
Article12.6.
It is forbidden to distract or annoy the opponent in any manner whatsoever. This includes unreasonable claims, unreasonable offers of a draw or the introduction of a source of noise into the playing area.
Article12.8.
Persistent refusal by a player to comply with the Laws of Chess shall be penalised by loss of the game. The arbiter shall decide the score of the opponent.

Even in Blitz, they are still fully applicable and if breached repeatedly can lead to expulsion from the event.

Max Illingworth
04-12-2011, 05:15 PM
Who won the tournament?

mikesguns
04-12-2011, 05:45 PM
Who won the tournament?
Sandler won it and I was lucky enough to be the only person to beat him.
Second was Bobby, I cant remember the rest Justin Tan and Dusan Stojic were up there.

Lekko
04-12-2011, 07:07 PM
Sandler won it and I was lucky enough to be the only person to beat him.
Second was Bobby, I cant remember the rest Justin Tan and Dusan Stojic were up there.
Dusan third I think.

Kerry Stead
04-12-2011, 07:41 PM
Prize winners:
1st - Leonid Sandler 11.5/13
2nd - Bobby Cheng 11/13
3rd - Dusan Stojic 9.5/13
4th - Justin Tan 9/13
Rating group 1
1st - Ari Dale 8/13
Rating group 2
1st - Jack Hughes 6.5/13

Full Cross Table below:

No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13

1 Sandler, Leonid VIC 2273 11.5 17:W 8:W 6:W 3:W 4:W 2:D 7:W 18:W 5:W 10:W 11:L 9:W 13:W
2 Cheng, Bobby VIC 2363 11 16:W 10:W 4:L 9:W 5:W 1:D 3:D 6:W 8:W 7:W 17:W 11:W 21:W
3 Stojic, Dusan VIC 2277 9.5 15:W 20:W 18:W 1:L 11:W 6:W 2:D 4:L 7:L 5:W 9:W 8:W 16:W
4 Tan, Justin VIC 2120 9 21:W 12:W 2:W 18:W 1:L 5:L 11:W 3:W 6:L 8:W 7:L 16:W 22:W
5 Partsi, Dimitry VIC 2020 8 14:W 18:L 16:W 7:W 2:L 4:W 6:L 12:W 1:L 3:L 10:W 20:W 11:W
6 Antolis, Cedric VIC 2221 8 23:W 11:W 1:L 10:W 8:W 3:L 5:W 2:L 4:W 9:L 13:W 7:W 17:L
7 Dale, Ari VIC 1892 8 18:L 21:W 12:W 5:L 13:W 10:W 1:L 11:W 3:W 2:L 4:W 6:L 19:W
8 Urban, Sylvester VIC 2017 7 19:W 1:L 23:W 11:L 6:L 16:W 9:W 13:W 2:L 4:L 12:W 3:L 14:W
9 Beaumont, David VIC 1997 7 12:L 13:W 15:W 2:L 16:W 18:L 8:L 14:W 19:W 6:W 3:L 1:L 24:W
10 Lekkas, Frank VIC 1939 7 24:W 2:L 20:W 6:L 12:D 7:L 14:W 15:W 11:D 1:L 5:L 19:W 23:W
11 Addamo, Michael VIC 1906 6.5 22:W 6:L 19:W 8:W 3:L 15:W 4:L 7:L 10:D 12:W 1:W 2:L 5:L
12 Hughes, Jack G VIC 1284 6.5 9:W 4:L 7:L 21:W 10:D 23:W 18:L 5:L 13:W 11:L 8:L 17:W 15:W
13 Tuncer, Deniz VIC 1614 6 20:L 9:L 24:W 19:W 7:L 17:W 15:W 8:L 12:L 14:W 6:L 22:W 1:L
14 Cannon, David VIC 1390 6 5:L 16:L 17:W 15:L 20:W 19:W 10:L 9:L 22:W 13:L 21:W 24:W 8:L
15 Sandler, Veniamin VIC 1685 6 3:L 24:W 9:L 14:W 22:W 11:L 13:L 10:L 16:L 21:W 20:W 23:W 12:L
16 Chmiel, Rad VIC 1736 5.5 2:L 14:W 5:L 22:W 9:L 8:L 21:L 17:D 15:W 19:W 24:W 4:L 3:L
17 Mijatovic, Bosko VIC 1890 5.5 1:L 19:L 14:L 24:D 21:W 13:L 22:W 16:D 23:D 20:W 2:L 12:L 6:W
18 Morris, James VIC 2288 5 7:W 5:W 3:L 4:L 23:W 9:W 12:W 1:L 0: 0: 0: 0: 0:
19 Dale, Finley VIC 1306 4.5 8:L 17:W 11:L 13:L 24:W 14:L 23:W 20:W 9:L 16:L 22:D 10:L 7:L
20 Power, Paul VIC 1569 4.5 13:W 3:L 10:L 23:L 14:L 22:D 24:W 19:L 21:W 17:L 15:L 5:L 0:W
21 Puccini, Jack VIC 1480 4 4:L 7:L 22:L 12:L 17:L 24:W 16:W 23:W 20:L 15:L 14:L 0:W 2:L
22 Ebeyan, Thomas VIC 878 4 11:L 23:L 21:W 16:L 15:L 20:D 17:L 24:W 14:L 0:W 19:D 13:L 4:L
23 Gibson, Kyle VIC 1675 3.5 6:L 22:W 8:L 20:W 18:L 12:L 19:L 21:L 17:D 24:L 0:W 15:L 10:L
24 Nowak, Ruben VIC 1252 2.5 10:L 15:L 13:L 17:D 19:L 21:L 20:L 22:L 0:W 23:W 16:L 14:L 9:L

Kerry Stead
04-12-2011, 07:59 PM
As for the issue of the noisy banging of the clocks, at no time did any players in the tournament inform me of any issue in this regard.
I realise that in blitz games, players tend to be more 'panicked' than they would be in a standard 90+30 FIDE rated game, and therefore (rightly or wrongly), some players will press the clock with more force than they would in a long game. As such, I am more inclined to show leniency with regard to article 6.7c, however I did not notice any 'clock punching' to be excessively noisy or loud, so felt there was no need to intervene. As I mentioned, no players made me aware during the event of any issue in this regard, so again I felt no need to intervene.
If such a complaint was made, then I would have made a point to warn both players in the game in question, watched the rest of the game (and applied further warnings/penalties as necessary) and given a general reminder to the entire field before the start of the next round (as I did with some other rules that came up during the tournament).

This exact issue was brought to my attention during the recent MCC allegro championships & I gave the entire field a general reminder about handling of the clocks before the next round commenced & this seemed to solve, or at least reduce, the problem.

As for the tournament itself, it was extremely strong, with over half the field being rated over 1800! This makes the performances of both Leonid Sandler & Bobby Cheng (who finished on 11.5 & 11 respectively, 1.5 points clear of third place) particularly noteworthy.
Other notable performances came from Ari Dale, whose 8/13 was over 2 points more than he was expected to score by rating, while David Cannon's 6/13 (3.5 above expectation) was also excellent.
Jack Hughes was the standout in this regard, scoring 6.5/13 against an average field of 1886! His expected score against this field was just 0.26, so his performance was an extraordinary 6 points above expectation!
Congratulations to all the prizewinners & thanks to MCC for providing the venue, which has helped further its reputation (as Sandler later noted in his President's report to the AGM later in the afternoon) as the home of speed chess in Victoria!

Kevin Bonham
04-12-2011, 08:02 PM
Hmmm. On the one hand any mention of the word "clock" and anyone with anything to do with Chess Victoria will always bring a wry expression to my face. Based on my own experience CV considers the value of a chess clock to both exceed its weight in gold and equal precisely ten dollars, so I think the only appropriate response is to simultaneously both conduct a Royal Commission into the possibility that a precious CV clock was placed at risk, and also shrug the shoulders and ignore it. ;)

On the other hand, I notice that after losing this game to Sandler, in which he seems to have done nothing to assert his right to arbiter intervention, James appears to have withdrawn. And unless he tripped over a table while going to find his next opponent and busted his arm, that leaves him in a weakened position to complain about the behaviour of others.

Kerry Stead
04-12-2011, 08:11 PM
Hmmm. On the one hand any mention of the word "clock" and anyone with anything to do with Chess Victoria will always bring a wry expression to my face. Based on my own experience CV considers the value of a chess clock to both exceed its weight in gold and equal precisely ten dollars, so I think the only appropriate response is to simultaneously both conduct a Royal Commission into the possibility that a precious CV clock was placed at risk, and also shrug the shoulders and ignore it. ;)
For the record Kevin, the clocks being used were MCC clocks, not CV clocks ... and is there really a need to bring up the issue again??

Kevin Bonham
04-12-2011, 08:13 PM
For the record Kevin, the clocks being used were MCC clocks, not CV clocks ... and is there really a need to bring up the issue again??

I can't recall ever bringing it up here in any detail (just a few aside mentions, some more oblique than others); would somebody like me to? Its own specific thread perhaps? I have been trying to avoid that. :P

Bereaved
04-12-2011, 08:20 PM
On the other hand, I notice that after losing this game to Sandler, in which he seems to have done nothing to assert his right to arbiter intervention, James appears to have withdrawn. And unless he tripped over a table while going to find his next opponent and busted his arm, that leaves him in a weakened position to complain about the behaviour of others. ( bolding by MP)

Hi Kevin,

I would like to think that it is a player's right to withdraw from an event in which they felt dissatisfied with the conduct of their fellow players, and/or the organizers. I believe that this is a voting with the feet approach. The comment about a weakened position to complain about conduct suggests that James did something wrong......would you like to say what he did wrong rather than allude to it?

Take care and God Bless, Bereaved

Disclaimer ( I was not present at this event, and have not spoken to any of the participants in the event whilst the event was in progress, or afterwards )

Kevin Bonham
04-12-2011, 08:42 PM
( bolding by MP)

Hi Kevin,

I would like to think that it is a player's right to withdraw from an event in which they felt dissatisfied with the conduct of their fellow players, and/or the organizers.

Firstly there is no evidence that this is anything to do with dissatisfaction with the organizers, so let's ignore that angle. I agree that withdrawal in such cases is often legitimate.

It's actually unclear at this stage whether James withdrew in annoyance at Leonid's alleged tactics or simply in disgust at losing the game or at being out of contention. But in any case, the latter is not the point you're raising, so let's assume it is the former.

In that case, I think withdrawing in disgust at an opponent's behaviour is only acceptable if you have unsuccessfully attempted to exercise your rights. If you don't at least attempt to claim your rights with regard to that alleged behaviour (by stopping the clock and getting the arbiter) then I don't think it is legitimate to withdraw over it. If you do at least attempt to claim your rights, even unsuccessfully, then that's different.

This applies especially in blitz where there often seems to be a culture of "anything goes" - at least until there is a big argument. It's quite common to see blitz games, even at very high level, where it seems that both players are consensually waiving as much of the Laws of Chess as gets in the way of bashing out moves as fast and as sloppily as possible. There's no way to tell whether people really have a problem at the time unless they assert their rights and stop the clock.

Lekko
04-12-2011, 08:58 PM
Is it just me (not having a shot at anyone here, just a humourous observation) or is it becoming a common occurance to see an IM storming out of a Vic Blitz Championship?

Kevin Bonham
04-12-2011, 09:04 PM
Is it just me (not having a shot at anyone here, just a humourous observation) or is it becoming a common occurance to see an IM storming out of a Vic Blitz Championship?

Perhaps it's a bit like a Dothraki wedding without at least three deaths being considered a dull affair.

[/George RR Martin injoke]

WhiteElephant
04-12-2011, 09:06 PM
Kerry, are you able to elaborate on how the withdrawal took place and what was the reason given? Thanks.

antichrist
04-12-2011, 09:16 PM
It's actually unclear at this stage whether James withdrew in annoyance at Leonid's alleged tactics or simply in disgust at losing the game or at being out of contention.

AC
does he have a history of withdrawing from comps in similar circumstances?

Kevin Bonham
04-12-2011, 09:21 PM
does he have a history of withdrawing from comps in similar circumstances?

I cannot recall seeing any report of him ever doing so before, so I'd say not.

antichrist
04-12-2011, 09:28 PM
I cannot recall seeing any report of him ever doing so before, so I'd say not.

considering that half (4) of his opponents were rated below 2000 he should not have been under too much pressure up to that stage. One does not withdraw from a top competition over someone banging clocks - you just tell them during the break to take it easy and they usually comply. I have had the guy next board constantly banging my clock but I did not walk out over it.

Considering he got free entry not a very good look - if he had paid he may have valued it more

antichrist
04-12-2011, 09:40 PM
As we have been often informed of the high membership of MCC where the comp was held 24 was not a great turnout for a state comp. Not clashing with AFL finals or anything.

ER
04-12-2011, 09:43 PM
I cannot recall seeing any report of him ever doing so before, so I'd say not.

The reference above is in regards to a withdrawal by IM Mirko Rujevic in an incident during a blitz event at MCC.

James's behaviour during and after games is impeccable! He has never being involved in such actions before, as far as I know anyway! I will not be satisfied by all explanations given until the IM himself calms down and gives his thorough account of what exactly happened!

antichrist
04-12-2011, 09:49 PM
apparently he even knocked the pieces over before leaving - not a very good look

MichaelBaron
05-12-2011, 12:11 AM
On the other hand, I notice that after losing this game to Sandler, in which he seems to have done nothing to assert his right to arbiter intervention, James appears to have withdrawn. And unless he tripped over a table while going to find his next opponent and busted his arm, that leaves him in a weakened position to complain about the behaviour of others.
Actually, I was also very close to withdrawing in the last Allegro Championships so I can understand James's reaction. Withdrawing is not a solution but sometimes it can be understood...

Keong Ang
05-12-2011, 02:01 PM
As for the issue of the noisy banging of the clocks, at no time did any players in the tournament inform me of any issue in this regard.
I realise that in blitz games, players tend to be more 'panicked' than they would be in a standard 90+30 FIDE rated game, and therefore (rightly or wrongly), some players will press the clock with more force than they would in a long game. As such, I am more inclined to show leniency with regard to article 6.7c, however I did not notice any 'clock punching' to be excessively noisy or loud, so felt there was no need to intervene. As I mentioned, no players made me aware during the event of any issue in this regard, so again I felt no need to intervene.
If such a complaint was made, then I would have made a point to warn both players in the game in question, watched the rest of the game (and applied further warnings/penalties as necessary) and given a general reminder to the entire field before the start of the next round (as I did with some other rules that came up during the tournament).
So things were not as bad as it initially appeared.
Since the supposedly affected players did not even complain during the tournament, the CA must have kept things well under control. :clap:

ER
05-12-2011, 02:27 PM
I agree that this, being one of the strongest, if not the strongest blitz tournaments in Australia, special attantion should have been given to the top boards at least.

Then again, known the meticulous approach of Kerry's to various aspects of arbitering, particularly if he didn't have any assistance I can suggest that he was occupied with other duties as well.

In conclusion, I don't think concrete opinions should be formed especially by people non present (*) in the event before we hear all sides of the story and in particular, Leonid's and other players' as well as Kerry's!

I told you from the beginning! You people don't listen! :P

Leonid Sandler
05-12-2011, 08:24 PM
Thanks for all well wishers who congratulated me in the last day or so.

I would like to dedicate my win to my father Veniamin Sandler who is turning 75 next week.

He was the oldest participant and scored a very credible 6 points from 13 games.

A few words about the round 8 game ----- Morris-Sandler.In appoximately equal middle game position after self-pinning my knight I lost piece for only 1 pawn but continued to fight on and soon managed to collect another pawn .

Plus I had more time( from memory around 50 seconds against 20 seconds)

When James make an illegal move and lost in accordance to FIDE regulations.

Of course he was very upset(losing game where he had his chances) and left the tournament.Today we talked and he apologised.

We all make mistakes,but you need a lot of courage to admit it.

I am very happy that James ( whom I respect very much) was able to do it.

The end of the story:)

Kevin Bonham
05-12-2011, 11:17 PM
Posts moved

I've moved some posts dealing with Blitz laws here (http://chesschat.org/showthread.php?t=13672). This started with a possibly relevant clarification about the difference between "completed" and "made" (ie you are allowed to start moving before the opponent presses the clock, so long as you let them release their hand from the piece before touching a piece yourself) and branched out from there into various exotic cases that are not relevant to this thread.

frankablanca
05-12-2011, 11:50 PM
Thanks for all well wishers who congratulated me in the last day or so.

I would like to dedicate my win to my father Veniamin Sandler who is turning 75 next week.

He was the oldest participant and scored a very credible 6 points from 13 games.

A few words about the round 8 game ----- Morris-Sandler.In appoximately equal middle game position after self-pinning my knight I lost piece for only 1 pawn but continued to fight on and soon managed to collect another pawn .

Plus I had more time( from memory around 50 seconds against 20 seconds)

When James make an illegal move and lost in accordance to FIDE regulations.

Of course he was very upset(losing game where he had his chances) and left the tournament.Today we talked and he apologised.

We all make mistakes,but you need a lot of courage to admit it.

I am very happy that James ( whom I respect very much) was able to do it.

End of story:)

Congratulations to your win Leonid, and to James for his courage to admit his mistakes as your commented.
But Leonid, you do have some bad habits playing with a worse position, which in a blitz game can potentially alter the course of the game. I hope you have the courage to acknowledge them.

antichrist
08-12-2011, 08:24 AM
Congratulations to your win Leonid, and to James for his courage to admit his mistakes as your commented.

But Leonid, you do have some bad habits playing with a worse position, which in a blitz game can potentially alter the course of the game. I hope you have the courage to acknowledge them.


Well if James had the courage to apologise etc than maybe Leonid should admit that maybe he is too aggressive in blitz and will try to curtail


[08-12-2011 09:30 AM] leonid Sandler: Hi Hobbes and antichrist,I do not now your names but Morris-Sandler game from Vic Blitz Championship 2011 is history and I cannot see any merits in returning to the old story..
[08-12-2011 09:30 AM] Hobbes: yep no worries