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Leonid Sandler
19-04-2011, 05:10 PM
After 10 long years Australian Championship 2012 finally will be held in Victoria!

The dates --- December 27/2011--- January 8/2012

Venue---The Sphinx Entertainment Centre,North Geelong

More details plus pictures from this afternoon presentation will follow later on..

McTaggart
19-04-2011, 06:06 PM
Wonderful news!!

Adamski
19-04-2011, 06:18 PM
Wonderful news!!
I agree. Being involved,in organising last Aus Champs and 2 Aus Opens in NSW in last 3 years enough. Pleased to see another state take ir on. Best wishes ro the organisers.

ER
19-04-2011, 06:46 PM
After 10 long years Australian Championship 2012 finally will be held in Victoria!

The dates --- December 27/2011--- January 8/2012

Venue---The Sphinx Entertainment Centre,North Geelong

More details plus pictures from this afternoon presentation will follow later on..

Dear Leonid
Apart from a champ you are also a legend!:clap: :clap: :clap:
Good work, keep it up! :)

Leonid Sandler
19-04-2011, 08:14 PM
Dear Leonid
Apart from a champ you are also a legend!:clap: :clap: :clap:
Good work, keep it up! :)

Thanks for your kind words! Credit is due to Geelong Chess Club members and Paul Power being a driving force behind this exciting project.

This afternoon the team of Geelong Chess Club members , ACF President Gary Wastell,International Grandmaster many times Australian Champion CV Vice-President Darryl Johansen , our poster girl Charlotte Dilnutt,former World under 12 Champion Bobby Cheng amongst many others were greated by Major of Geelong.Hopefully I will be able to upload some photos soon...

Basil
19-04-2011, 08:44 PM
After 10 long years Australian Championship 2012 finally will be held in Victoria!
:clap:

Carl Gorka
19-04-2011, 08:48 PM
Fantastic effort Geelong :clap:

I wish you all success in organising the Championship:)

Leonid Sandler
19-04-2011, 09:45 PM
Noel Fanning of Gest Media, who covered the announcement of Geelong's successful bid to host Australian Championship 2012, advises the piece will go to air on Digital 44 Wednesday 20 April at 6:30.

ER
20-04-2011, 02:16 AM
I think this is a great opportunity for clubs and individuals to provide a helping hand to CV!!!
This is a moral obligation for the WHOLE chess community to stand by our State Authority in order to stage a great Aus Championship!

Based on what I have witnessed, Sydney, NSW CA and Norths in particular have raised the standards of such event very very high! Can we do better or be equally successful?

I understand that certain people have already expressed concern about the venue being in Geelong etc

Those concerns have been expressed by Melburnians who would like the tournament's venue to be in the state capital so they would not have to pay for accommodation.

Players who would enter from interstate don't care if it's in Melbourne or not since for them it's the same

The Melburnians' concerns are only partly justified since:


In this tournament there would only be a game per day. So they have all the time to catch a train to the venue and back to Melbourne after play! A train's trip to North Geelong is only about an hour long! That gives you plenty of time for rest!

A full fare weekly ticket to North Geelong will cost you $52.20
A concession weekly ticket to North Geelong will cost you $27.60

I am very tempted to do that actually since I love train rides plus for various reasons I will have to be in Melbourne certain days during the festive period.


Here is the link for all you need to know about V Line Railway Services

http://www.vline.com.au/home/

Now look at some other reasons why Geelong is OK


It would give a tremendous boost to Chess in country Victoria as well as making the Geelong Chess Club a more popular place than what it already is!

It can start a new tradition in the steps of the Great Begonia Open in Ballarat.

It can potentially contribute to Geelong Open becoming a great tournament too.

Imagine the thrill of having the Aus Championship in your own backyard. It would be a great experience for young and not so young.


So please, stop whinging :P and be a part of it!

GIVE GEELONG A CHANCE!!!

Lekko
20-04-2011, 02:53 AM
In this tournament there would only be a game per day. So they have all the time to catch a train to the venue and back to Melbourne after play! A train's trip to North Geelong is only about an hour long! That gives you plenty of time for rest!
I think the fact that there is only one game per day is the point. Think about all the money being spent on V-Line tickets! 13 days travelling up and down on trains! Has CV asked metro for sponsorship yet? From the amount of money they'd be earning by your suggestion, they bloody well should be! :D

That being said, I'm looking forward to my first Australian Championship! It's finally in Vic, so I can play! :D Will probably just rent out a house or something up there for the 2 weeks. SO PUMPED AND ITS STILL 8 MONTHS AWAY!

Amir K.
20-04-2011, 03:04 AM
That means: 2011 Gold Coast Chess Festival registered from 26-30 December
must be cancelled. Great work Leonid:clap: .
Hopefully, we will get our deposit back paid for the Venue in Casino.
Obviously, this has something to do with the latest "TORNELO" support.




As Chess Guru said:
It's like living under an insane dictator....anything that even appears to threaten status quo and *Bang* you're dead...and nobody can argue about it.
If chess were a country (with oil) the US/UN would come in and bomb the ACF right about now.

I am happy for all Victorian chess players. Victoria become a mayor chess force in Australia:clap: .

ER
20-04-2011, 03:12 AM
Has CV asked metro for sponsorship yet?

Tad early for that, they just got the deal signed yesterday! :P


From the amount of money they'd be earning by your suggestion, they bloody well should be! :D

Not that much by comparison



A full fare weekly ticket to North Geelong will cost you $52.20
A concession weekly ticket to North Geelong will cost you $27.60

BTW don't forget that there are some people in the chess community who do not have the financial means to book in hotels or even share in houses or backpacker places. For them a concession weekly fare is a very real possibility!


That being said, I'm looking forward to my first Australian Championship! It's finally in Vic, so I can play! :D Will probably just rent out a house or something up there for the 2 weeks. SO PUMPED AND ITS STILL 8 MONTHS AWAY!

Good luck! It's a great experience indeed!

Lekko
20-04-2011, 03:16 AM
BTW don't forget that there are some people in the chess community who do not have the financial means to book in hotels or even share in houses or backpacker places. For them a concession weekly fare is a very real possibility!
!
That's probably why they're complaining :P

Keep in mind you're going to need 2 of those weeklys JaK, its over 13 days ;)

ER
20-04-2011, 03:45 AM
That's probably why they're complaining :P
They 'd be complaining even if the Venue wasn't in their own suburb. They always complain, that seems to be their only purpose in life, not my fault! ;) :P


Keep in mind you're going to need 2 of those weeklys JaK, its over 13 days ;)

ok here you are

• full fare weekly ticket to North Geelong will cost you $52.20 x 2 = $104.40
• concession weekly ticket to North Geelong will cost you $27.60 x 2 = $55.20

Now booking in any semi respectable hotel would cost something like

$120 x 13 = $1560

in a backpackers place it would cost something like

$40 x 13 = $ 520

I don't know about holiday houses / accommodation.

to the above add the fare to go to Geelong and back anyway!

BTW the people who have expressed concerns about the venue don't belong to the havenots class!

I doubt the havenots would be interested to go play in the Aus Champs anyway.

Don't forget that the entry fee won't be peanuts either!

Anyway, my only problem at present is to be able to fit in Amir's tournament in Gold Coast which I don't want to miss but my schedule is really tight! (*) :doh: :rolleyes: :lol:


That means: 2011 Gold Coast Chess Festival registered from 26-30 December
must be cancelled. Great work Leonid .
Hopefully, we will get our deposit back paid for the Venue in Casino.
Obviously, this has something to do with the latest "TORNELO" support.


BTW I just saw Amir's posting above. Amir that's bad news, I know that's highly unrealistic but is there any possible way to change dates or something? Maybe make it a weekender or something? I have already paid deposit for Mardi Gras Resort too!

Leonid Sandler
20-04-2011, 06:59 AM
Here are the basic information.

Schedule

27 December --- Opening ceremony---- 1-00 pm

27 December----- Round 1--- 2-00 pm

28 December------Round 2----1-00 pm

29 December-------Round 3----1-00 pm

30 December-------Round 4----1-00 pm

31 December-------Round 5----1-00 pm

1 January 2012----Rest day(all day!!)

2 January---------Round 6-------1-00 pm

3 January---------Round 7------1-00 pm

4 January--------Round 8-----1-00 pm

5 January-----Australian Lightning Championship-----1-00 pm

6 January-------Round 9----1-00 pm

7 January-----Round 10------1-00 pm

8 January-----Round 11-----11-00 am

8 January---- Closing ceremony-----5-00 pm appox.

Closing date for entries-------13 December 2011

Early bird cutoff date----------1 December 2011


More details to follow....

mzoppi
20-04-2011, 08:40 AM
Well done Geelong Chess Club and others involved in organising this event.
The Geelong Open begins 27 May, please consider playing.

Kevin Bonham
20-04-2011, 11:26 AM
Congrats to the Geelong Chess Club and all others involved on the very high quality of their bid. Hope it goes well.


Obviously, this has something to do with the latest "TORNELO" support.

Obviously it has nothing to do with it whatsoever. You keep imagining conspiracies that do not exist.

Historically the Aus Champs or Open were generally held along a schedule like that for Geelong. It's only been in the last half-decade or so that these events have generally started after the New Year, with compressed schedules. That provided the niche for you to run your event at that time but it was never set in stone that it would always be that way.

It's a pity that there is a clash and I hope you get your deposit back. But there is a hazard in trying to arrange other events around the time of the Aus Champs/Open (as I found out when arranging the Aus Junior only to have to move the dates by one day because of the Aus Champs, which caused no end of problems.)

ER
20-04-2011, 02:08 PM
Looking in my diary I just realised that the Aus Championships clash with

another major tournament namely

the Canterbury Summer Swiss 27-30 December

So Captain / MOZ / Peter, please make an announcement on this!

ER
20-04-2011, 07:43 PM
Still no official announcement from Box Hill / Canterbury Jrs CCs for the above! I checked in the Club's website as well and there is nothing there! So, I presume the tournament will go on regardless!

Kevin Bonham
20-04-2011, 07:52 PM
Still no official announcement from Box Hill / Canterbury Jrs CCs for the above! I checked in the Club's website as well and there is nothing there! So, I presume the tournament will go on regardless!

I'd be surprised if it did in the circumstances.

Davidflude
20-04-2011, 08:15 PM
Still no official announcement from Box Hill / Canterbury Jrs CCs for the above! I checked in the Club's website as well and there is nothing there! So, I presume the tournament will go on regardless!

We only learned about the Championship starting early, late yesterday. The incoming committee is already on the job looking at alternatives for running the Canterbury Summer Swiss.

There will be some discussion on this question in the weekly newsletter which will be sent out late tonight or tomorrow morning. This year with the Championship, Australian Junior and the monster tournament in Queenstown New Zealand all in january there is some congestion of dates.

ER
20-04-2011, 08:38 PM
OK thanks David... I am worried because there are clashes galore in my planner and I have to cancel airfares and bookings! Just canceled hotel's booking for Amir's tournament actually and Virgin Blue were kind enough to reschedule my booking to Gold Coast for some other destination of my choice later in 2012. My Velocity good records helped lots! I was also worried about the Summer Swiss, because I didn't want to miss any of the Club's major tournaments this year!

Leonid Sandler
21-04-2011, 07:50 AM
Some initial information will be distributed today and tomorrow in Canberra including a very colourful brochure with our poster girl Charlotte Dilnutt.

Yesterday some Geelong mass-media outlets have reported about April 19 presentation.

Davidflude
21-04-2011, 08:40 AM
Leon,

It is great to see that you are moving things along fast. Remember that Chess Victoria has a mailing list which I can use to send out information. I suggest that you put the brochure on appropriate web sites such as Chess Victoria, the Geelong Chess Club web site and a dedicated Championship web site when and if one exists.

Also you might post the brochure in PDF format on this web site.

David Flude

MichaelBaron
21-04-2011, 10:01 AM
Some initial information will be distributed today and tomorrow in Canberra including a very colourful brochure with our poster girl Charlotte Dilnutt.

Yesterday some Geelong mass-media outlets have reported about April 19 presentation.
Its great to have promotions starting early!:clap: Poster-girl - something nerdy chess players will be exited to see :)

lost
21-04-2011, 09:03 PM
On behalf of Chess Victoria, they present the official flyer for the Australian Chess Championships 2012 to be held in Geelong, Victoria.

1702

Everyone at the Doeberl Cup will receive a flyer for this event. I urge everyone to make the trip down to Geelong, Victoria to make this a fantastic event and holiday at the same time.


lost

Davidflude
25-04-2011, 02:36 AM
Is this to be

A) An Australian Open with everybody playing in the same tournament.

B) Australian Championship with a major and minor tournament as in the ACF constitution.

Bill Gletsos
25-04-2011, 02:40 AM
Is this to be

A) An Australian Open with everybody playing in the same tournament.

B) Australian Championship with a major and minor tournament as in the ACF constitution.The title of the thread is correct, it is the Australian Championship, not the Open.

According to the bid document there is only the Championship and Major, no Minor.

Davidflude
25-04-2011, 12:55 PM
Thanks Bill.

Garrett
02-05-2011, 06:58 PM
Just a quick question...

Does winning a State Open (e.g. Qld Open) grant eligibility to the championships?

Regards
Garrett.

Garvinator
02-05-2011, 07:20 PM
Does winning a State Open (e.g. Qld Open) grant eligibility to the championships?No.

http://www.auschess.org.au/constitution/By-law1.txt


Australian Chess Championship

2. General Qualifications. An Australian citizen or a person with permanent resident status under the Migration Act 1958 (Cwth) who -
a. has an ACF rating, whether provisional or not, on the list current at the close of entries of at least 2150; or
b. is deemed by the ACF Council to be of an equivalent level of proficiency is entitled to play in the Australian Chess Championship.

3. Special Qualifications. A person who is not entitled to play in the Australian Chess Championship under By-law No.1.2 is entitled to play in the
Australian Chess Championship if the person is -
a. the current Australian Champion;
b. the current or immediately previous Australian Junior Champion;
c. the current or immediately previous Australian Women?s Champion;
d. the winner of the previous Australian Major;
e. one person nominated by each State Chess Association, who is, in the opinion of the ACF Council, ordinarily resident in that State, if that State
would not otherwise have a person in the Australian Chess Championship.

f. a current Champion of a State or Territory that has an Association which is affiliated with the ACF;

g. a junior (according to FIDE definition) who is improving and is deemed by the ACF Council to be of sufficient standard;
h.
(i) a person, not being an Australian citizen or a person with permanent resident status under the Migration Act 1958 (Cwth), who has a rating of at
least 2250 on the most recent FIDE rating list and who has played at least 20 ACF-rated games in the two years before entries close for the Australian
Championship; or
(ii) a New Zealand citizen or permanent resident who has a rating of at least 2250 on the most recent FIDE rating list; provided that the total number of players under this paragraph is not to exceed four, being the four highest FIDE rated entrants.

4. The ACF Council may decide that a person, who is otherwise eligible under paragraph h of By-law No.1.3., is ineligible to play in the Australian Chess
Championship on the ground that their FIDE rating materially overstates their present level of proficiency. Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraph 3, a person who is a State or Territory champion in the year 2000 shall be eligible to play in the 2002 Australian Championship"

5. The ACF Council may, in exceptional circumstances, invite one otherwise ineligible player to compete in the Australian Chess Championship.

So from reading this- if you win the 2011 Qld Championship, you can get in.

Publicist
08-05-2011, 10:10 AM
What is this nonsense at the end of clause 4

ER
08-05-2011, 10:22 AM
What is this nonsense at the end of clause 4

hmmm :doh: :hmm: maybe QLD real time? :P

Kevin Bonham
08-05-2011, 12:55 PM
What is this nonsense at the end of clause 4

Not nonsense at all. Just an old transitionary clause because it used to be the case that if a state held a title every year, then the previous year's state champion also qualified for the Aus Champs, even if they had been dethroned by the time the next Aus Champs rolled around.

This was changed to make it so that you only qualified by being a reigning state champion. However when it was changed we decided not to make the change immediate, as that would disqualify players who had already qualified under existing rules.

The sentence could quite safely be removed now as it is thoroughly redundant but there is also no pressing need to do so.

Garvinator
08-05-2011, 06:10 PM
I do hope that a Minor will be run for Under 1600's

george
08-05-2011, 07:21 PM
hi Garrett,

From memory the championship has fairly strict rating requirements. However if state/territory concerned has no-one in the championship field they can nominate anyone who belongs to their association and that person has automatic entry into the Championship.

SA did that with Bernard Rigo some years ago.

Regards

Kevin Bonham
08-05-2011, 07:31 PM
A player whose rating is close to 2150 ACF can apply under the "equivalent proficiency" rule. That rule basically exists to pick up rapidly improving players whose ratings may be below their true strength, players who bob around 2150 strength but are below the rating at the time they apply, or players whose ratings don't represent their real skill for whatever reason (eg if there was local deflation). It doesn't mean that if a player is (say) 2100 and they apply then they will automatically be accepted.

Metro
11-05-2011, 04:11 PM
Thanks for your kind words! Credit is due to Geelong Chess Club members and Paul Power being a driving force behind this exciting project.

This afternoon the team of Geelong Chess Club members , ACF President Gary Wastell,International Grandmaster many times Australian Champion CV Vice-President Darryl Johansen , our poster girl Charlotte Dilnutt,former World under 12 Champion Bobby Cheng amongst many others were greated by Major of Geelong.Hopefully I will be able to upload some photos soon...
City of Greater Geelong contributes $10,000
http://www.yvnews.com.au/indy/torquay/223/story/132276.html

ElevatorEscapee
01-07-2011, 03:50 PM
Just a query on the rate of play.

On the entry form I have, it states that it is:


"40 moves in 90 minutes +30 minutes for remainder of game +30 seconds per move from move one".

Does this mean that clocks are adjusted after 40 moves?
Or are players simply given 120 minutes at the start of the game?

Kevin Bonham
01-07-2011, 04:06 PM
Does this mean that clocks are adjusted after 40 moves?
Or are players simply given 120 minutes at the start of the game?

It means the clock automatically adds 30 minutes at move 40. If you take 91 minutes over your first move, you lose on time.

Metro
06-07-2011, 08:59 PM
tournament details: http://geelongchess.com/australian-chess-championship-2012/

mikesguns
18-07-2011, 06:35 AM
tournament details: http://geelongchess.com/australian-chess-championship-2012/
Does that mean reserves is U2150?

Leonid Sandler
18-07-2011, 10:09 AM
Does that mean reserves is U2150?

Yes,this is correct.

george
18-07-2011, 04:44 PM
hi,

Jamie left some colourful flyers at the CC in Adelaide at the recent weekend tourney. I have put up the flyers in prominent places - always happy to encourage a national competition in a regional area of Victoria:D .

Jesper Norgaard
19-07-2011, 03:13 PM
It means the clock automatically adds 30 minutes at move 40. If you take 91 minutes over your first move, you lose on time.

Just curious, don't know the tourney or the clocks, have never tried the new FIDE time, but ... didn't FIDE make a statement that the clocks should not be set to automatically add 30 minutes at move 40 because that might lead to confusion. Instead 30 minutes are only added to both clocks when one player oversteps 90 minutes and 0 seconds. If this happens before 40 moves have been made by that player, he loses on time (at least if discovered before both flags fall)?

If both flags have fallen in the first period, if the clock indicates which flag fell first, the corresponding player loses. Otherwise, the game continues (in this case to finish).

Kevin Bonham
19-07-2011, 09:15 PM
Posts moved

Discussion about the issue of setting clocks for this time control (in response to the above) has been moved to an existing thread about adding time at move 40 here (http://chesschat.org/showthread.php?t=11462).

Off-topic post by antichrist moved to Chess Whatever.

Leonid Sandler
25-07-2011, 07:48 PM
Australian Champion International Grandmaster Zong-Yuan Zhao will defend his title in Geelong! Grandmaster elect George Xie also have entered Australian Championship. Nice to see our top guns from NSW entering early!

ElevatorEscapee
14-09-2011, 10:45 AM
It pays to book early.

Not only is there a $20 discount for entries received before December 1, I just booked my accommodation last night and the motel gave me a discount for booking so far in advance! :)

I'll be posting my entry in next week.

Tony Dowden
16-09-2011, 02:32 PM
... Grandmaster elect George Xie ...

Really? I thought he had to reach FIDE 2500 first.

Rincewind
16-09-2011, 02:54 PM
Really? I thought he had to reach FIDE 2500 first.

I believe that is true but by "GM-elect" Leonid means that he has achieved 3 norms. I note Leonid isn't the only to do so, even here. ggardiner uses the term here (http://www.chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=317963&postcount=2).

ER
24-09-2011, 03:09 PM
Aus Chess Championship 2012 - The Paul Power Interview has been published. (An Interview thread)

Metro
24-10-2011, 10:14 PM
Australian Champion International Grandmaster Zong-Yuan Zhao will defend his title in Geelong! Grandmaster elect George Xie also have entered Australian Championship. Nice to see our top guns from NSW entering early!
Anyone seen a new list of entries?:D

Max Illingworth
24-10-2011, 10:55 PM
http://geelongchess.com/australian-chess-championship-2012-entrants/

I will be playing as well, I just need to submit the entry form and pay.

mikesguns
25-10-2011, 03:49 PM
I like how there are 3 FIDE titled players and Mr Ben Kersten, to give him a title just to fit in.

kibitzer
25-10-2011, 06:59 PM
I like how there are 3 FIDE titled players and Mr Ben Kersten, to give him a title just to fit in.

Muggles are people too...

Leonid Sandler
25-10-2011, 07:53 PM
The following players has entered to play.

Australian Championship

1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

4.Andrew Brown---IM(ACT)

5.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

6.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

7.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)


Australian Championship Reserves

1.Kevin Perrin--VIC

2.Elliott Renzies--VIC

3.Ian Rout---ACT

4.Ben Kersten---VIC

5.Bengt Largo---overseas

6.Martin Jack---QLD

7.John Langer---VIC

8.Peter Fry---VIC

9.Nigel Barrow---VIC

For sure many more players will enter in due course...

Leonid Sandler
26-10-2011, 07:23 AM
The following players has entered to play.

Australian Championship

1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

4.Andrew Brown---IM(ACT)

5.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

6.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

7.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)


Australian Championship Reserves

1.Kevin Perrin--VIC

2.Elliott Renzies--VIC

3.Ian Rout---ACT

4.Ben Kersten---VIC

5.Bengt Largo---overseas

6.Martin Jack---QLD

7.John Langer---VIC

8.Peter Fry---VIC

9.Nigel Barrow---VIC

For sure many more players will enter in due course...

A few more players has entered

Gene Nakauchi---QLD

Geoff Barber---SA

Harry Hoholis----VIC

kibitzer
26-10-2011, 11:50 AM
As a matter of interest, do the December ACF ratings come out before the Championships?

Max Illingworth
26-10-2011, 12:05 PM
As a matter of interest, do the December ACF ratings come out before the Championships?

Yes.

Leonid Sandler
31-10-2011, 03:48 PM
Many times Australian and Victorian Champion Grandmaster Darryl Johansen is a starter.

Please see the current list

The following players have entered to play.

Australian Championship

1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Darryl Johansen---GM (VIC)

4.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

5.Andrew Brown---IM(ACT)

6.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

7.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

8.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)




Australian Championship Reserves

1.Kevin Perrin--VIC

2.Elliott Renzies--VIC

3.Ian Rout---ACT

4.Ben Kersten---VIC

5.Geoff Barber---SA

6.Martin Jack---QLD

7.John Langer---VIC

8.Peter Fry---VIC

9.Nigel Barrow---VIC

10.Johan Visser---NSW

Leonid Sandler
03-11-2011, 09:32 PM
Please see the latest list



Australian Championship

1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Darryl Johansen---GM (VIC)

4.Stephen Solomon---IM(QLD)

5.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

6.Andrew Brown---IM(ACT)

7.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

8.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

9.Andrew Bird--(NSW)

10.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)




Australian Championship Reserves

1.Kevin Perrin--VIC

2.Elliott Renzies--VIC

3.Ian Rout---ACT

4.Ben Kersten---VIC

5.Geoff Barber---SA

6.Martin Jack---QLD

7.John Langer---VIC

8.Peter Fry---VIC

9.Nigel Barrow---VIC

10.Johan Visser---NSW

11.Ari Dale---VIC

12.Finley Dale---VIC

13.Gene Nakauchi--QLD

14.Harry Hoholis---VIC

Metro
06-11-2011, 01:53 PM
Please see the latest list



Australian Championship

1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Darryl Johansen---GM (VIC)

4.Stephen Solomon---IM(QLD)

5.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

6.Andrew Brown---IM(ACT)

7.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

8.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

9.Andrew Bird--(NSW)

10.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)


GM Chao Li (China ) entered.

8604436 Li, Chao b
Federation China
FIDE title Grand Master
Rating: 2700
B-Year 1989
Sex Male www.fide.com

black
06-11-2011, 04:23 PM
Nice addition!

jfks123
06-11-2011, 04:29 PM
what are the rating requirements for the championshiops and reserves? i cant seem to find this info on the website. and is only 1st place in the reserves allowed in the champinoships next year?

Leonid Sandler
06-11-2011, 04:34 PM
To be eligible to play in Australian Championship you need to have ACF rating of 2150 or above.The next ACF rating list will be published December 1/2011.

For Australian Championship Reserves tournament there is not minimal rating requirements.

jfks123
06-11-2011, 04:36 PM
To be eligible to play in Australian Championship you need to have ACF rating of 2150 or above.The next ACF rating list will be published December 1/2011.

For Australian Championship Reserves tournament there is not minimal rating requirements.
is there a maximum?

kibitzer
07-11-2011, 10:16 AM
To be eligible to play in Australian Championship you need to have ACF rating of 2150 or above.


Interesting to contrast that with the Aus. Championsip of 1979-80 when only about 5 of the 38 players would have met that requirement - Rogers who won was 'only' 2160, and Hjorth in second place a mere 1955.

Denis_Jessop
07-11-2011, 11:55 AM
what are the rating requirements for the championshiops and reserves? i cant seem to find this info on the website. and is only 1st place in the reserves allowed in the champinoships next year?

The next Australian Championship is in two years' time, not next year. Next year is the Australian Open.

DJ

Garvinator
07-11-2011, 12:48 PM
The next Australian Championship is in two years' time, not next year. Next year is the Australian Open.
I think Kibitzer is talking about 2012.

Leonid Sandler
13-11-2011, 07:35 AM
Please see the latest list


Australian Championship

1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Darryl Johansen---GM (VIC)

4.Stephen Solomon---IM(QLD)

5.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

6.Andrew Brown---IM(ACT)

7.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

8.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

9.Andrew Bird--(NSW)

10.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)

11.Chris Wallis--- FM-(VIC)

12.Justin Tan----(VIC)






Australian Championship Reserves

1.Kevin Perrin--VIC

2.Elliott Renzies--VIC

3.Ian Rout---ACT

4.Ben Kersten---VIC

5.Geoff Barber---SA

6.Martin Jack---QLD

7.John Langer---VIC

8.Peter Fry---VIC

9.Nigel Barrow---VIC

10.Johan Visser---NSW

11.Ari Dale---VIC

12.Finley Dale---VIC

13.Gene Nakauchi--QLD

14.Harry Hoholis---VIC

15.Jonas Muller----QLD

16.Aurel-John Buciu---QLD

17.Frank Lekkas----VIC

18.Bill Stokie-----VIC

Leonid Sandler
23-11-2011, 07:18 PM
Australian Championship Reserves

Current players list

1.Kevin Perrin--VIC

2.Elliott Renzies--VIC

3.Ian Rout---ACT

4.Ben Kersten---VIC

5.Geoff Barber---SA

6.Martin Jack---QLD

7.John Langer---VIC

8.Peter Fry---VIC

9.Nigel Barrow---VIC

10.Johan Visser---NSW

11.Ari Dale---VIC

12.Finley Dale---VIC

13.Gene Nakauchi--QLD

14.Harry Hoholis---VIC

15.Jonas Muller----QLD

16.Aurel-John Buciu---QLD

17.Frank Lekkas----VIC

18.Bill Stokie-----VIC

19.Marcus Raine---VIC

20.Ben Ingram---NSW

21.Colin McKenzie---VIC

22.Alana Chew-Lee---VIC

23.Max Chew-Lee----VIC

24.John Beckman-----VIC

25.Thomas Ebeyan---VIC

26.Michael Sugrue----VIC


Please note that early bird entry discount finishes December 1st


Leonid Sandler

Member of organizing committee for Australian Championships 2012

Leonid Sandler
23-11-2011, 07:46 PM
Australian Championship 2012


Please see the latest list


Australian Championship

1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Darryl Johansen---GM (VIC)

4.Stephen Solomon---IM(QLD)

5.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

6.Andrew Brown---IM(ACT)

7.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

8.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

9.Andrew Bird--(NSW)

10.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)

11.Chris Wallis--- FM-(VIC)

12.Justin Tan----(VIC)

13.Laurence Matheson---(VIC)---subject to selectors approval

14.Fedja Zulfic----(SA)---subject to selectors approval

15.Karl Zelesco---(VIC)---subject to selectors approval


Please note that early bird entry discount finishes December 1st

Some people are asking how to get to the venue.

Here is some useful information.

Melbourne players can commute to the 2012 Australian Chess Championship,

share the driving with a friend car pool or catch the train. Train travellers

can stop at North Geelong railway station then its a twenty minute walk or go

through to Geelong station catch bus 30, stops right outside the door. A bus

leaves every 20 minutes on weekdays.Please check the timetable.


Leonid Sandler

Member of organizing committee for Australian Championships 2012

ER
23-11-2011, 08:05 PM
Australian Championship 2012


Please see the latest list


Australian Championship

1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Darryl Johansen---GM (VIC)

4.Stephen Solomon---IM(QLD)

5.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

6.Andrew Brown---IM(ACT)

7.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

8.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

9.Andrew Bird--(NSW)

10.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)

11.Chris Wallis--- FM-(VIC)

12.Justin Tan----(VIC)

13.Laurence Matheson---(VIC)---subject to selectors approval

14.Fedja Zulfic----(SA)---subject to selectors approval

15.Karl Zelesco---(VIC)---subject to selectors approval


Please note that early bird entry discount finishes December 1st

Some people are asking how to get to the venue.

Here is some useful information.

Melbourne players can commute to the 2012 Australian Chess Championship,

share the driving with a friend car pool or catch the train. Train travellers

can stop at North Geelong railway station then its a twenty minute walk or go

through to Geelong station catch bus 30, stops right outside the door. A bus

leaves every 20 minutes on weekdays.Please check the timetable.

TRAIN MELBOURNE - GEELONG and GEELONG - MELBOURNE TIMETABLE

http://www.vline.com.au/pdf/timetables/geelong.pdf/geelong

BUS GEELONG STATION - VENUE and VENUE - GEELONG STATION TIMETABLE

http://tt.metlinkmelbourne.com.au/tt/TTB/VIC_TEST__0000085b_TP.pdf

Max Illingworth
24-11-2011, 06:45 PM
May I please be added to the list of entrants; I sent my entry fee via. bank transfer yesterday.

Leonid Sandler
25-11-2011, 02:10 PM
Australian Championship 2012


Please see the latest list


Australian Championship

1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Darryl Johansen---GM (VIC)

4.Stephen Solomon---IM(QLD)

5.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

6.Andrew Brown---IM(ACT)

7.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

8.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

9.Andrew Bird--(NSW)

10.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)

11.Chris Wallis--- FM-(VIC)

12.Justin Tan----(VIC)

13.Laurence Matheson---(VIC)---subject to selectors approval

14.Fedja Zulfic----(SA)---subject to selectors approval

15.Karl Zelesco---(VIC)---subject to selectors approval

16.Domagoj Dragicevic--(VIC)

17.Yi Liu---(QLD)

18.Max Illingworth--FM--(NSW)


Please note that early bird entry discount finishes December 1st

Leonid Sandler

Member of organizing committee for Australian Championships 2012

Leonid Sandler
25-11-2011, 02:16 PM
Australian Championship Reserves 2012


Current players list

1.Kevin Perrin--VIC

2.Elliott Renzies--VIC

3.Ian Rout---ACT

4.Ben Kersten---VIC

5.Geoff Barber---SA

6.Martin Jack---QLD

7.John Langer---VIC

8.Peter Fry---VIC

9.Nigel Barrow---VIC

10.Johan Visser---NSW

11.Ari Dale---VIC

12.Finley Dale---VIC

13.Gene Nakauchi--QLD

14.Harry Hoholis---VIC

15.Jonas Muller----QLD

16.Aurel-John Buciu---QLD

17.Frank Lekkas----VIC

18.Bill Stokie-----VIC

19.Marcus Raine---VIC

20.Ben Ingram---NSW

21.Colin McKenzie---VIC

22.Alana Chew-Lee---VIC

23.Max Chew-Lee----VIC

24.John Beckman-----VIC

25.Thomas Ebeyan---VIC

26.Shu Hon Edwin Chung---SA

27.Felix Wyss---VIC

28.Richard Lilly---WA

29.John Summerfield---WA

30.Ian Dickson---NSW

31.Francesco Antoniazzi---VIC

Please note that early bird entry discount finishes December 1st

Leonid Sandler

Member of organizing committee for Australian Championships 2012

Carl Gorka
25-11-2011, 08:35 PM
Is that Chinese GM playing or not?

ER
25-11-2011, 09:09 PM
Is that Chinese GM playing or not?

我怎么会知道?

Santa
26-11-2011, 03:58 AM
Australian Championship Reserves 2012



29.John Summerfield---WA



Hmm. Maybe I should have a chat with Haydn:D
Could be cheap coaching.

Kevin Bonham
26-11-2011, 06:23 PM
Posts moved

General discussion about having overseas entries in the Aus Champs has been moved here (http://www.chesschat.org/showthread.php?t=13629). Anyone wishing to know about the rules for admitting overseas entrants and how that is being handled should see that thread especially #7.

Trent Parker
27-11-2011, 10:53 AM
Having Christmas in Echuca this year......

Going to try to come down and play in Aus Champs from there.....

Anyone know of any Extremely cheap accomodation for 1 down geelong? Billet perhaps?

Santa
27-11-2011, 07:18 PM
Having Christmas in Echuca this year......

Going to try to come down and play in Aus Champs from there.....

Anyone know of any Extremely cheap accomodation for 1 down geelong? Billet perhaps?

Talk to Paul

Lekko
28-11-2011, 05:54 PM
I've just sort out my accomodation so I'm playing now. Can someone let me know if I can pay on the first day of the tournament?

Trent Parker
29-11-2011, 06:50 AM
note that for early entry the entry must be paid for before Dec 1

ER
29-11-2011, 06:58 AM
The True HeartBreak Kid ;)

Franko Lekko??? :confused: :lol:

Leonid Sandler
29-11-2011, 08:17 AM
Current players list

1.Kevin Perrin--VIC

2.Elliott Renzies--VIC

3.Ian Rout---ACT

4.Ben Kersten---VIC

5.Geoff Barber---SA

6.Martin Jack---QLD

7.John Langer---VIC

8.Peter Fry---VIC

9.Nigel Barrow---VIC

10.Johan Visser---NSW

11.Ari Dale---VIC

12.Finley Dale---VIC

13.Matthew Radisich----ACT

14.Harry Hoholis---VIC

15.Jonas Muller----QLD

16.Aurel-John Buciu---QLD

17.Frank Lekkas----VIC

18.Bill Stokie-----VIC

19.Marcus Raine---VIC

20.Ben Ingram---NSW

21.Colin McKenzie---VIC

22.Alana Chew-Lee---VIC

23.Max Chew-Lee----VIC

24.John Beckman-----VIC

25.Thomas Ebeyan---VIC

26.Shu Hon Edwin Chung---SA

27.Felix Wyss---VIC

28.Richard Lilly---WA

29.John Summerfield---WA

30.Ian Dickson---NSW

31.Francesco Antoniazzi---VIC

32.Kinto Wan----NSW

33.Paul Power----VIC

Please note that early bird entry discount finishes December 1st

Leonid Sandler

Member of organizing committee for Australian Championships 2012

Leonid Sandler
29-11-2011, 08:20 AM
Australian Championship 2012


Please see the latest list


Australian Championship

1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Darryl Johansen---GM (VIC)

4.Stephen Solomon---IM(QLD)

5.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

6.Andrew Brown---IM(ACT)

7.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

8.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

9.Andrew Bird--(NSW)

10.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)

11.Chris Wallis--- FM-(VIC)

12.Justin Tan----(VIC)

13.Laurence Matheson---(VIC)---subject to selectors approval

14.Fedja Zulfic----(SA)---subject to selectors approval

15.Karl Zelesco---(VIC)---subject to selectors approval

16.Gene Nakauchi--(QLD)---subject to selectors approval

17.Max Illingworth--- FM--( NSW)

Please note that early bird entry discount finishes December 1st

Leonid Sandler

Member of organizing committee for Australian Championships 2012

Lekko
29-11-2011, 01:27 PM
note that for early entry the entry must be paid for before Dec 1
That's fine but is it possible to pay the normal entry fee on the day or do I have to do this bank transfer thing?

Leonid Sandler
29-11-2011, 08:57 PM
Australian Championship 2012


Please see the latest list


Australian Championship

1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Darryl Johansen---GM (VIC)

4.Stephen Solomon---IM(QLD)

5.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

6.Andrew Brown---IM(ACT)

7.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

8.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

9.Andrew Bird--(NSW)

10.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)

11.Chris Wallis--- FM-(VIC)

12.Justin Tan----(VIC)

13.Laurence Matheson---(VIC)---subject to selectors approval

14.Fedja Zulfic----(SA)---subject to selectors approval

15.Karl Zelesco---(VIC)---subject to selectors approval

16.Domagoj Dragicevic--(VIC)

17.Yi Liu---(QLD)

18.Max Illingworth--FM--(NSW)

19.Gene Nakauchi----( QLD)

20.Michael Sugrue----( VIC)---- subject to selectors approval


Please note that early bird entry discount finishes December 1st

Leonid Sandler

Member of organizing committee for Australian Championships 2012

Leonid Sandler
30-11-2011, 06:47 PM
With only several hours before early bird entry discount expires please see the
current players list

1.Kevin Perrin--VIC

2.Elliott Renzies--VIC

3.Ian Rout---ACT

4.Ben Kersten---VIC

5.Geoff Barber---SA

6.Martin Jack---QLD

7.John Langer---VIC

8.Peter Fry---VIC

9.Nigel Barrow---VIC

10.Johan Visser---NSW

11.Ari Dale---VIC

12.Finley Dale---VIC

13.Matthew Radisich----ACT

14.Harry Hoholis---VIC

15.Jonas Muller----QLD

16.Aurel-John Buciu---QLD

17.Frank Lekkas----VIC

18.Bill Stokie-----VIC

19.Marcus Raine---VIC

20.Ben Ingram---NSW

21.Colin McKenzie---VIC

22.Alana Chew-Lee---VIC

23.Max Chew-Lee----VIC

24.John Beckman-----VIC

25.Thomas Ebeyan---VIC

26.Shu Hon Edwin Chung---SA

27.Felix Wyss---VIC

28.Richard Lilly---WA

29.John Summerfield---WA

30.Ian Dickson---NSW

31.Francesco Antoniazzi---VIC

32.Kinto Wan----NSW

33.Paul Power----VIC

34.Dennis Wan---NSW

35.Bas Van Riel---VIC

36.Rad Chmiel---VIC

37.Kyle Gibson---VIC

38.Colin Savage--VIC

39.Mary Wilkie---NSW

40.Zachary Loh---VIC

41.Brian Jones---NSW

42.Omar Khaled---VIC

Please note that early bird entry discount finishes very soon--- December 1st

Leonid Sandler

Member of the organizing committee for Australian Championships 2012

Leonid Sandler
30-11-2011, 06:50 PM
With only several hours before early bird entry discount expires please see the

the latest list


Australian Championship

1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Darryl Johansen---GM (VIC)

4.Stephen Solomon---IM(QLD)

5.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

6.Andrew Brown---IM(ACT)

7.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

8.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

9.Andrew Bird--(NSW)

10.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)

11.Chris Wallis--- FM-(VIC)

12.Justin Tan----(VIC)

13.Laurence Matheson---(VIC)---subject to selectors approval

14.Fedja Zulfic----(SA)---subject to selectors approval

15.Karl Zelesco---(VIC)---subject to selectors approval

16.Domagoj Dragicevic--(VIC)

17.Yi Liu---(QLD)

18.Max Illingworth--FM--(NSW)

19.Gene Nakauchi----( QLD)

20.Michael Sugrue----( VIC)---- subject to selectors approval

21.Dusan Stojic---FM--(VIC)


Please note that early bird entry discount finishes December 1st

Leonid Sandler

Member of the organizing committee for Australian Championships 2012

Max Illingworth
30-11-2011, 07:52 PM
In FIDE rating order:


Zong-Yuan Zhao 2564
George Xie 2440
Darryl Johansen 2403
Max Illingworth 2401
Stephen Solomon 2384
Moulthun Ly 2376
Junta Ikeda 2349
Bobby Cheng 2345
Dusan Stojic 2287
Christopher Wallis 2268
Domagoj Dragicevic 2247
Andrew Brown 2225
Andrew Bird 2216
Justin Tan 2160
Gene Nakauchi 2116
Yi Liu 2039
Laurence Matheson 2126 (?)
Fedja Zulfic 2087 (?)
Karl Zelesco 1976 (?)
Michael Sugrue UNR (?)

Trent Parker
30-11-2011, 08:35 PM
Talk to Paul


Can someone tell me who is on the Aus Champs organising committee?

Apparently paul is not on the organising committee any more!?

Leonid Sandler
30-11-2011, 09:02 PM
Hi Trent,

Committee members are in not particular order

Bill Stokie

Ben Kersten

Gary Wastell

Leonid Sandler

Sam Sopovski

Andrew Wemyss

mikesguns
30-11-2011, 09:49 PM
Count me in for the Reserves tournament

Leonid Sandler
30-11-2011, 11:42 PM
Australian Championship

1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Darryl Johansen---GM (VIC)

4.Stephen Solomon---IM(QLD)

5.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

6.Andrew Brown---IM(ACT)

7.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

8.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

9.Andrew Bird--(NSW)

10.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)

11.Chris Wallis--- FM-(VIC)

12.Justin Tan----(VIC)

13.Laurence Matheson---(VIC)

14.Fedja Zulfic----(SA)---subject to selectors approval

15.Karl Zelesco---(VIC)---subject to selectors approval

16.Domagoj Dragicevic--(VIC)

17.Yi Liu---(QLD)

18.Max Illingworth--FM--(NSW)

19.Gene Nakauchi----( QLD)

20.Michael Sugrue----( VIC)---- subject to selectors approval

21.Dusan Stojic---FM--(VIC)


Leonid Sandler

Member of the organizing committee for Australian Championships 2012

Leonid Sandler
01-12-2011, 06:33 AM
1.Kevin Perrin--VIC

2.Elliott Renzies--VIC

3.Ian Rout---ACT

4.Ben Kersten---VIC

5.Geoff Barber---SA

6.Martin Jack---QLD

7.John Langer---VIC

8.Peter Fry---VIC

9.Nigel Barrow---VIC

10.Johan Visser---NSW

11.Ari Dale---VIC

12.Finley Dale---VIC

13.Matthew Radisich----ACT

14.Harry Hoholis---VIC

15.Jonas Muller----QLD

16.Aurel-John Buciu---QLD

17.Frank Lekkas----VIC

18.Bill Stokie-----VIC

19.Marcus Raine---VIC

20.Ben Ingram---NSW

21.Colin McKenzie---VIC

22.Alana Chew-Lee---VIC

23.Max Chew-Lee----VIC

24.John Beckman-----VIC

25.Thomas Ebeyan---VIC

26.Shu Hon Edwin Chung---SA

27.Felix Wyss---VIC

28.Richard Lilly---WA

29.John Summerfield---WA

30.Ian Dickson---NSW

31.Francesco Antoniazzi---VIC

32.Kinto Wan----NSW

33.Paul Power----VIC

34.Dennis Wan---NSW

35.Bas Van Riel---VIC

36.Rad Chmiel---VIC

37.Kyle Gibson---VIC

38.Colin Savage--VIC

39.Mary Wilkie---NSW

40.Zachary Loh---VIC

41.Brian Jones---NSW

42.Omar Khaled---VIC

43.Michael Addamo---VIC

44.Kim Skeltys-----VIC

45.Matthew Bennett---ACT

46.Joshua Bishop---ACT

47.Jason Tang----VIC

48.Pengya Chen---NSW

Please note that entry closes--- December 13

Leonid Sandler

Member of the organizing committee for Australian Championships 2012

Trent Parker
01-12-2011, 11:33 AM
Any way to enter by credit card?

Santa
01-12-2011, 01:50 PM
1.Kevin Perrin--VIC


Ranked
1 Savige | Colin B | VIC | 2079
2 Tang | Jason | VIC | 2071
3 Jones | Brian A | NSW | 2066
4 Chen | Pengyu | NSW | 2051
5 Muller | Jonas | QLD | 2040
6 Raine | Marcus | VIC | 2000
7 Addamo | Michael | VIC | 1972
8 Lekkas | Frank | VIC | 1924
9 Khaled | Omar | OS | 1908
10 Barrow | Nigel | VIC | 1891
11 Dale | Ari | VIC | 1887
12 Loh | Zachary | VIC | 1860
13 Hoholis | Harry | VIC | 1852
14 Wan | Kinto | NSW | 1850
15 Lilly | Richard | WA | 1847
16 Ingram | Ben W | NSW | 1846
17 Wyss | Felix | VIC | 1822
18 Rout | Ian C | ACT | 1810
19 Fry | Peter | VIC | 1786
20 Wan | Dennis | NSW | 1762
21 Bishop | Joshua | ACT | 1758
22 Bennett | Matthew | ACT | 1746
23 Visser | Johan | OS | 1740
24 Chmiel | Rad | VIC | 1738
25 Skeltys | Kim | QLD | 1709
26 Chew Lee | Max | VIC | 1702
27 McKenzie | Colin D | VIC | 1674
28 Van Riel | Bas | VIC | 1658
29 Antoniazzi | Francesco | VIC | 1656
30 Buciu | Aurel-John | QLD | 1637
31 Jack | Martin | QLD | 1633
32 Gibson | Kyle | VIC | 1598
33 Beckman | John | VIC | 1582
34 Stokie | William | VIC | 1578
35 Perrin | Kevin J | VIC | 1560
36 Dickson | Ian C | NSW | 1542
37 Power | Paul | VIC | 1535
38 Barber | Geoffrey | QLD | 1535
39 Kersten | Ben | VIC | 1531
40 Chung | Edwin Shu Hon | SA | 1458
41 Radisich | Matt | ACT | 1402
42 Wilkie | Mary E | NSW | 1396
43 Renzies | Elliott | VIC | 1381
44 Summerfield | John | WA | 1368
45 Dale | Finley | VIC | 1303
46 Langer | John | VIC | 1281
47 Chew Lee | Alanna | VIC | 980
48 Ebeyan | Thomas | VIC | 881

Note, some players here are listed "OS", Colin is Savige Chen is Pengyu

Brian_Jones
01-12-2011, 03:15 PM
Must be a mistake. I have only entered the Lightning! ;)

Santa
01-12-2011, 03:35 PM
Must be a mistake. I have only entered the Lightning! ;)

I merely took Sandler's List.

Lekko
01-12-2011, 03:35 PM
Must be a mistake. I have only entered the Lightning! ;)
Haha stuff the championship, just come for the blitz! :P

Trent Parker
01-12-2011, 03:46 PM
and methinks national conference!

Leonid Sandler
01-12-2011, 06:04 PM
Australian Championship 2012 updates

Current list

1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Darryl Johansen---GM (VIC)

4.Stephen Solomon---IM(QLD)

5.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

6.Andrew Brown---IM(ACT)

7.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

8.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

9.Andrew Bird--(NSW)

10.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)

11.Chris Wallis--- FM-(VIC)

12.Justin Tan----(VIC)

13.Laurence Matheson---(VIC)

14.Fedja Zulfic----(SA)---subject to the selectors approval

15.Karl Zelesco---(VIC)---subject to the selectors approval

16.Domagoj Dragicevic--(VIC)

17.Yi Liu---(QLD)

18.Max Illingworth--FM--(NSW)

19.Gene Nakauchi----( QLD)

20.Michael Sugrue----( VIC)---- subject to the selectors approval

21.Dusan Stojic---FM--(VIC)

22.Vladimir Smirnov--IM--( NSW)

23.Anton Smirnov----(NSW)---subject to the selectors approval

24.Justin Penrose----(QLD)----subject to the selectors approval


Leonid Sandler

Member of the organizing committee for Australian Championships 2012

Leonid Sandler
01-12-2011, 06:08 PM
Must be a mistake. I have only entered the Lightning! ;)


Sorry Brian,I got too excited! :rolleyes:

Updated list

1.Kevin Perrin--VIC

2.Elliott Renzies--VIC

3.Ian Rout---ACT

4.Ben Kersten---VIC

5.Geoff Barber---SA

6.Martin Jack---QLD

7.John Langer---VIC

8.Peter Fry---VIC

9.Nigel Barrow---VIC

10.Johan Visser---NSW

11.Ari Dale---VIC

12.Finley Dale---VIC

13.Matthew Radisich----ACT

14.Harry Hoholis---VIC

15.Jonas Muller----QLD

16.Aurel-John Buciu---QLD

17.Frank Lekkas----VIC

18.Bill Stokie-----VIC

19.Marcus Raine---VIC

20.Ben Ingram---NSW

21.Colin McKenzie---VIC

22.Alana Chew-Lee---VIC

23.Max Chew-Lee----VIC

24.John Beckman-----VIC

25.Thomas Ebeyan---VIC

26.Shu Hon Edwin Chung---SA

27.Felix Wyss---VIC

28.Richard Lilly---WA

29.John Summerfield---WA

30.Ian Dickson---NSW

31.Francesco Antoniazzi---VIC

32.Kinto Wan----NSW

33.Paul Power----VIC

34.Dennis Wan---NSW

35.Bas Van Riel---VIC

36.Rad Chmiel---VIC

37.Kyle Gibson---VIC

38.Colin Savage--VIC

39.Mary Wilkie---NSW

40.Zachary Loh---VIC

41.Richard Voon---VIC

42.Omar Khaled---VIC

43.Michael Addamo---VIC

44.Kim Skeltys-----VIC

45.Matthew Bennett---ACT

46.Joshua Bishop---ACT

47.Jason Tang----VIC

48.Pengya Chen---NSW

Please note that entry closes--- December 13

Leonid Sandler

Member of the organizing committee for Australian Championships 2012

jfks123
01-12-2011, 06:12 PM
Do we need to enter beforehand for the blitz?

BearDrinkingBeer
07-12-2011, 08:43 PM
Do we need to enter beforehand for the blitz?
I am interested in solely entering the lightning too. Who can I contact to get my name on the list? (The online form does not seem to allow you to enter the lightning solely.)

Leonid Sandler
08-12-2011, 08:19 AM
Updated list

1.Kevin Perrin--VIC

2.Elliott Renzies--VIC

3.Ian Rout---ACT

4.Ben Kersten---VIC

5.Geoff Barber---SA

6.Martin Jack---QLD

7.John Langer---VIC

8.Peter Fry---VIC

9.Nigel Barrow---VIC

10.Johan Visser---NSW

11.Ari Dale---VIC

12.Finley Dale---VIC

13.Matthew Radisich----ACT

14.Harry Hoholis---VIC

15.Jonas Muller----QLD

16.Aurel-John Buciu---QLD

17.Frank Lekkas----VIC

18.Bill Stokie-----VIC

19.Marcus Raine---VIC

20.Ben Ingram---NSW

21.Colin McKenzie---VIC

22.Alana Chew-Lee---VIC

23.Max Chew-Lee----VIC

24.John Beckman-----VIC

25.Thomas Ebeyan---VIC

26.Shu Hon Edwin Chung---SA

27.Felix Wyss---VIC

28.Richard Lilly---WA

29.John Summerfield---WA

30.Ian Dickson---NSW

31.Francesco Antoniazzi---VIC

32.Kinto Wan----NSW

33.Paul Power----VIC

34.Dennis Wan---NSW

35.Bas Van Riel---VIC

36.Rad Chmiel---VIC

37.Kyle Gibson---VIC

38.Colin Savage--VIC

39.Mary Wilkie---NSW

40.Zachary Loh---VIC

41.Richard Voon---VIC

42.Omar Khaled---VIC

43.Michael Addamo---VIC

44.Kim Skeltys-----VIC

45.Matthew Bennett---ACT

46.Joshua Bishop---ACT

47.Jason Tang----VIC

48.Pengya Chen---NSW

49.Constantin Mutu--VIC

50.Glenn Ingham---ACT

51.Patrick Cook---VIC

52.Amelia Mendes---VIC

53.Vineetha Wijesuriya---VIC

54.Kerry Stead---VIC

55.Tony Davis---VIC

56.Doug Hamilton---VIC

57.Zoran Babic---VIC

58.Michael Placentino--VIC

59.Thumula Gamage---VIC

Please note ---- entries closes December 13

Leonid Sandler

Member of the organizing committee for Australian Championships 2012

Leonid Sandler
08-12-2011, 08:22 AM
Do we need to enter beforehand for the blitz?

You can enter Australian Blitz Championship one day before the event.

Leonid Sandler

Member of the organizing committee for Australian Championships 2012

Leonid Sandler
08-12-2011, 08:33 AM
Current list

1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Darryl Johansen---GM (VIC)

4.Stephen Solomon---IM(QLD)

5.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

6.James Morris---IM(VIC)

7.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

8.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

9.Andrew Bird--(NSW)

10.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)

11.Chris Wallis--- FM-(VIC)

12.Justin Tan----(VIC)

13.Laurence Matheson---(VIC)

14.Fedja Zulfic----(SA)---subject to the selectors approval

15.Karl Zelesco---(VIC)---subject to the selectors approval

16.Domagoj Dragicevic--(VIC)

17.Yi Liu---(QLD)

18.Max Illingworth--FM--(NSW)

19.Gene Nakauchi----( QLD)

20.Michael Sugrue----( VIC)---- subject to the selectors approval

21.Dusan Stojic---FM--(VIC)

22.Vladimir Smirnov--IM--( NSW)

23.Anton Smirnov----(NSW)---subject to the selectors approval

24.Justin Penrose----(QLD)----subject to the selectors approval

25.Akshat Khamparia---IM--( INDIA)

Please note that entries closes--- December 13


Leonid Sandler

Member of the organizing committee for Australian Championships 2012

Max Illingworth
08-12-2011, 10:46 AM
Here is Leonid's list above in FIDE rating order.


Zong-Yuan Zhao 2564
George Xie 2440
Akshat Khamparia 2414
Darryl Johansen 2403
Max Illingworth 2401
Vladimir Smirnov 2401
Stephen Solomon 2384
Moulthun Ly 2376
James Morris 2364
Junta Ikeda 2349
Bobby Cheng 2345
Dusan Stojic 2287
Michael Steadman 2269
Christopher Wallis 2268
Domagoj Dragicevic 2247
Andrew Bird 2216
Justin Tan 2160
Laurence Matheson 2126
Gene Nakauchi 2116
Yi Liu 2039
Fedja Zulfic 2087 (?)
Anton Smirnov 2063 (?)
Justin Penrose 2042 (?)
Karl Zelesco 1976 (?)
Michael Sugrue UNR (?)

Trent Parker
08-12-2011, 12:33 PM
I have just entered. Will be paying today.

that Caesar guy
08-12-2011, 12:50 PM
Ok, I'm assuming Li Chao isn't playing?

Santa
09-12-2011, 02:21 AM
Reservists ranked. Other than Trent, I seem to have an extra. Can anyone see who?

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1 Savige Colin B 2079
2 Tang Jason 2071
3 Jones Brian A 2066
4 Chen Pengyu 2051
5 Muller Jonas 2040
6 Hamilton Douglas G 2000
7 Raine Marcus 2000
8 Stead Kerry 1988
9 Addamo Michael 1972
10 Lekkas Frank 1924
11 Khaled Omar 1908
12 Barrow Nigel 1891
13 Dale Ari 1887
14 Loh Zachary 1860
15 Hoholis Harry 1852
16 Wan Kinto 1850
17 Lilly Richard 1847
18 Ingram Ben W 1846
19 Voon Richard 1838
20 Wyss Felix 1822
21 Rout Ian C 1810
22 Davis Tony J 1808
23 Fry Peter 1786
24 Wan Dennis 1762
25 Bishop Joshua 1758
26 Bennett Matthew 1746
27 Visser Johan 1740
28 Chmiel Rad 1738
29 Wijesuriya Vineetha 1718
30 Skeltys Kim 1709
31 Chew Lee Max 1702
32 Babic Zoran 1685
33 McKenzie Colin D 1674
34 Van Riel Bas 1658
35 Antoniazzi Francesco 1656
36 Buciu Aurel-John 1637
37 Jack Martin 1633
38 Parker Trent 1622
39 Cook Patrick 1608
40 Gibson Kyle 1598
41 Beckman John 1582
42 Stokie William 1578
43 Perrin Kevin J 1560
44 Placentino Michael 1545
45 Dickson Ian C 1542
46 Barber Geoffrey 1535
47 Power Paul 1535
48 Kersten Ben 1531
49 Ingham Glenn 1520
50 Chung Edwin Shu Hon 1458
51 Radisich Matt 1402
52 Wilkie Mary E 1396
53 Renzies Elliott 1381
54 Summerfield John 1368
55 Dale Finley 1303
56 Langer John 1281
57 Mutu Con 1274
58 Gamage Thumula 1127
59 Chew Lee Alanna 980
60 Ebeyan Thomas 881
61 Mendes Amelia 157




It seems likely Amelia is in for a tough time.

Ian Rout
09-12-2011, 07:19 AM
Reservists ranked. Other than Trent, I seem to have an extra. Can anyone see who?

--


.
Will FIDE or ACF ratings be used for ranking? From memory I think it was FIDE two years ago but I'm not certain of that.

Trent Parker
09-12-2011, 07:20 AM
Reservists ranked. Other than Trent, I seem to have an extra. Can anyone see who

I think Brian Jones was just entering the lightning?

Brian_Jones
09-12-2011, 07:44 AM
I think Brian Jones was just entering the lightning?

Correct!

Bill Gletsos
09-12-2011, 10:36 AM
Will FIDE or ACF ratings be used for ranking? From memory I think it was FIDE two years ago but I'm not certain of that.The 2010 Australian Major was seeded in ACF rating order as were the 2008 Australian Major, 2006 Australian Major and the 2004 Australian Reserves.

The 2011-2012 Championship will be seeded in FIDE rating order, whilst the 2011-2012 Major/Reserves will be seeded in ACF rating order.

Metro
10-12-2011, 05:52 PM
Aleks Wohl entered.
Aleks won the title in 1991-92 in Melbourne.I recall he had won with one round to spare and played Daryl Johansen in the final round.He was pictured wearing a DJ teeshirt .GM Tony Miles played.(IIRC) Can he win the title 20 years later?

machomortensen
10-12-2011, 06:36 PM
Any pictures from THAT tournament??

Santa
10-12-2011, 11:46 PM
I think Brian Jones was just entering the lightning?

Correct

I forgot about that and didn't delete anyone other than the duplicates I created.

Santa
10-12-2011, 11:49 PM
Will FIDE or ACF ratings be used for ranking? From memory I think it was FIDE two years ago but I'm not certain of that.

I don't know, but I suspect that i'm not the only one without a FIDE rating, and I'd rather not have a group of "unrated" players. Besides, I have the ACF ratings in a database.

Santa
10-12-2011, 11:51 PM
Aleks Wohl entered.
Aleks won the title in 1991-92 in Melbourne.I recall he had won with one round to spare and played Daryl Johansen in the final round.He was pictured wearing a DJ teeshirt .GM Tony Miles played.(IIRC) Can he win the title 20 years later?

I too was there, but I don't recall ever meeting Tony Miles. I think he did play the Begonia Open one year, cleaning up Jammo in fine style.

I do remember the teeshirt though.

Trent Parker
13-12-2011, 10:57 AM
Is anyone going to update the website?

I still dont appear on the list. I paid last thursday.

Leonid Sandler
13-12-2011, 08:08 PM
Australian Championship 2012
Current list

1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Darryl Johansen---GM (VIC)

4.Stephen Solomon---IM(QLD)

5.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

6.James Morris---IM(VIC)

7.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

8.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

9.Andrew Bird--(NSW)

10.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)

11.Chris Wallis--- FM-(VIC)

12.Justin Tan----(VIC)

13.Laurence Matheson---(VIC)

14.Fedja Zulfic----(SA)---subject to the selectors approval

15.Karl Zelesco---(VIC)---subject to the selectors approval

16.Domagoj Dragicevic--(VIC)

17.Yi Liu---(QLD)

18.Max Illingworth--FM--(NSW)

19.Gene Nakauchi----( QLD)

20.Michael Sugrue----( VIC)---- subject to the selectors approval

21.Dusan Stojic---FM--(VIC)

22.Vladimir Smirnov--IM--( NSW)

23.Anton Smirnov----(NSW)---subject to the selectors approval

24.Justin Penrose----(VIC)----subject to the selectors approval

25.Akshat Khamparia---IM--( INDIA)

26.Alex Wohl--IM --(QLD)

27.Eddy Levi--FM--(VIC)---subject to the selectors approval

28.Jonas Muller(QLD)---subject to the selectors approval

Please note that entries closes--- December 13


Leonid Sandler

Member of the organizing committee for Australian Championships 2012

Metro
13-12-2011, 08:14 PM
Please note that entries closes--- December 13

Today!:eek:

ER
13-12-2011, 11:22 PM
[entry list snipped-mod]

Please note that entries closes--- December 13

C'mon Boss, give 'em till Sunday 18 midnight? :)

Max Illingworth
13-12-2011, 11:29 PM
Here is Leonid's list above in FIDE rating order.


Zong-Yuan Zhao 2564
George Xie 2440
Akshat Khamparia 2414
Aleksandar Wohl 2404
Darryl Johansen 2403
Max Illingworth 2401
Vladimir Smirnov 2401
Stephen Solomon 2384
Moulthun Ly 2376
James Morris 2364
Junta Ikeda 2349
Bobby Cheng 2345
Dusan Stojic 2287
Michael Steadman 2269
Christopher Wallis 2268
Domagoj Dragicevic 2247
Andrew Bird 2216
Justin Tan 2160
Laurence Matheson 2126
Gene Nakauchi 2116
Yi Liu 2039
Eddy Levi 2138 (?)
Fedja Zulfic 2087 (?)
Anton Smirnov 2063 (?)
Justin Penrose 2042 (?)
Jonas Muller 2023 (?)
Karl Zelesco 1976 (?)
Michael Sugrue UNR (?)

Will provisional pairings be done before the 27th?

Santa
14-12-2011, 09:49 AM
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Will provisional pairings be done before the 27th?

I wouldn't expect colours to be decided until the Big Day, but once entrants are finalised, you are free to choose your opponent.

Trent Parker
14-12-2011, 09:52 AM
No confirmation email to say that my payment has been recieved, no mention on the Aus champs website.

No official list from for the reserves on this thread.

Has the organising committee recieved my payment or not?

Almost a week since payment.

Santa
14-12-2011, 11:06 AM
No confirmation email to say that my payment has been recieved, no mention on the Aus champs website.

No official list from for the reserves on this thread.

Has the organising committee recieved my payment or not?

Almost a week since payment.

Might be better to ask the organising committee direct

Kerry Stead
14-12-2011, 01:10 PM
No confirmation email to say that my payment has been recieved, no mention on the Aus champs website.

No official list from for the reserves on this thread.

Has the organising committee recieved my payment or not?

Almost a week since payment.
I'm sure you're fine Trent.
I paid on the last day for early entries (Dec 1) & my name didn't appear on a list until the 8th, when an updated list was posted here. A few days later it appeared on the official website.


A somewhat related question, but is there any reason why the entries for both the championships & reserves closed on the 13th? I can understand closing entries for the championship, so that the merits of those applicants who don't qualify based on rating or title can be assessed, but surely you don't want to turn away entries to the reserves between now & the start of the event??

The Bennett
14-12-2011, 01:22 PM
A somewhat related question, but is there any reason why the entries for both the championships & reserves closed on the 13th? I can understand closing entries for the championship, so that the merits of those applicants who don't qualify based on rating or title can be assessed, but surely you don't want to turn away entries to the reserves between now & the start of the event??

I second this question, I only just noticed this late last night. I have three of my friends who are going to play but haven't yet entered. If they'd known that there was a deadline for the entry they would've entered a lot earlier. These friends being Allen & Megan Setiabudi and Wenlin Yin.

ER
14-12-2011, 03:13 PM
Aren't we going to have a poll this time?

Ian Rout
14-12-2011, 04:03 PM
A somewhat related question, but is there any reason why the entries for both the championships & reserves closed on the 13th? I can understand closing entries for the championship, so that the merits of those applicants who don't qualify based on rating or title can be assessed, but surely you don't want to turn away entries to the reserves between now & the start of the event??
Organisers certainly wouldn't want people literally entering up to the start of the event. They have to organise equipment, room layout, player lists in the computer, round 1 draw issued, etc, and know the financial position. Irrespective of early bird discounts, late entry fees and how much lead time they have some people are so disorganised (or rich) that they will always leave it until the last thirty seconds if they can get away with it.

A little discretion in accepting slightly late entries wouldn't go astray though.

ER
14-12-2011, 04:06 PM
... some people are so disorganised (or rich) ...

or both! hehe! :owned: :lol:

Kerry Stead
14-12-2011, 05:30 PM
Organisers certainly wouldn't want people literally entering up to the start of the event. They have to organise equipment, room layout, player lists in the computer, round 1 draw issued, etc, and know the financial position. Irrespective of early bird discounts, late entry fees and how much lead time they have some people are so disorganised (or rich) that they will always leave it until the last thirty seconds if they can get away with it.

A little discretion in accepting slightly late entries wouldn't go astray though.
Yes, but you wouldn't expect such a huge rush of entries on the day for an event like this ... plus it would not be entirely unreasonable for the organisers to say that entries on the day would not be paired for round 1, to further discourage the 'super-late' entry.

Metro
14-12-2011, 05:41 PM
EntrantsTitle First name Surname State Country Lightning

Mr Ben Kersten Victoria Australia None
IM Moulthun Ly Queensland Australia yes
IM George Xie NSW Australia yes
FM Bobby Cheng VIC Australia None
Mr John Langer Vic Australia yes
Mr Peter Fry Victoria Australia None
Mr Elliott Renzies Victoria Australia None
Mr Nigel Barrow Vic Australia yes
Mr Ian Rout ACT Australia None
Mr Martin Jack Queensland Australia yes
Mr Kevin Perrin Vic Australia None
GM Zong-Yuan Zhao NSW Australia None
FM Mike Steadman New Zealand None
FM Junta Ikeda ACT Australia yes
Mr Geoff Barber SA Australia yes
Mr Johan Visser NSW Australia yes
FM Gene Nakauchi Qld Australia yes
Mr Harry Hoholis Victoria Australia None
Mr Fedja Zulfic South Australia Australia None
IM Stephen Solomon Qld Australia yes
Mr Ari Dale Victoria Australia yes
Mr Finley Dale Victoria Australia yes
Mr Andrew Bird NSW Australia None
Mr Frank Lekkas VIC Australia yes
Mr Justin Tan VIC Australia None
Mr Jonas Muller QLD Australia None
Mr Bill Stokie Vic Australia None
Mr Shu Hon Edwin Chung SA Australia None
FM Christopher Wallis Victoria Australia yes
FM Max Illingworth NSW Australia None
Mr Felix Wyss Vic Australia None
Mr Laurence Matheson Victoria Australia None
Mr Max Chew Lee Vic Australia yes
Miss Alanna Chew Lee Vic Australia None
Mr Colin McKenzie Vic Australia None
Mr Domagoj Dragicevic VIC Australia None
Mr Aurel John Buciu Qld Australia None
Mr Yi Liu Queensland Australia yes
Mr Michael Sugrue VIC Australia yes
Mr Richard Lilly WA Australia None
Mr Ian Dickson NSW Australia None
Mr Marcus Raine Vic Australia yes
Mr Ben Ingram NSW Australia None
Mr John Summerfield WA Australia None
Mr Felix Wyss Vic Australia None
Mr Francesco Antoniazzi Victoria Australia None
Mr Paul Power Vic Australia yes
Mr Matthew Radisich ACT Australia None
Mr Kinto Wan NSW Australia None
Mr Dennis Wan NSW Australia None
Mr Bas van Riel Vic Australia None
Mr Rad Chmiel Vic Australia None
Mr colin savige vic australia None
FM Dusan Stojic Vic Australia None
Mr Omar Khaled Victoria Australia None
Mr Zachary Loh Victoria Australia None
FM Brian Jones NSW Australia yes
Ms Mary Wilkie NSW Australia None
Mr Jack Puccini Vic Australia yes
Mr Kyle Gibson Victoria Australia None
Mr Kim Skeltys VIC Australia None
Mr Matthew Bennett A.C.T. Australia None
Mr Joshua Bishop ACT Australia None
Mr Jason Tang Victoria Australia yes
Mr Michael Placentino Victoria Australia None
Mr Pengyu Chen NSW Australia yes
Mr Kerry Stead Victoria Australia None
FM Douglas Hamilton Vic Aust None
Mr Zoran Babic Vic Aust None
Mr Justin Penrose VIC None
Mr Tony Davis Victoria Australia None
Mrs Vineetha Wijesuriya Victoria Australia None
Mr Thumula Gamage Victoria Australia None
Miss Amelia Mendes Vic Aust None
IM James Morris Victoria Australia yes
Mr Patrick Cook Victoria Australia None
GM Darryl Johansen Victoria Australia yes
Mr John Beckman Victoria Australia None
Mr Richard Voon Victoria Australia yes
Mr Karl Zelesco Vic Aust yes
Mr Samuel Dalton Vic Aust None
Mr Constantin Mutu Vic Aust None
Mr Glenn Ingham ACT Australia yes
Mr Trent Parker NSW NSW yes
IM Aleksandar Wohl NSW Australia None
Mr Zhigen Wilson Lin Victoria Australia yes
Mr Maris Cekulis Qld Australia None
Mr David Spuler Qld Australia yes
Mr David Beaumont Victoria Australia yes
Mr Alistair Anderson Victoria Australia None
Miss Megan Setiabudi ACT Australia None
Mr Allen Setiabudi ACT Australia None
Mr Shanon Vuglar ACT Australia None
Ms Ihsan Ferozkohi WA Australia yes
Mr Thomas Ebeyan Vic Australia yes
Mr Ihsan Ferozkohi WA Australia yes
Mr John Dowling Vic Aust None
Mr Mark Stokes Queensland Australia None
Mr Wenlin Yin ACT Australia yes
Mr John Humphrey Qld Australia None
Mr Joshua Bakanursky VIC Australia None
Miss Leteisha Simmonds Qld Australia yes
Mr Nicholas Kordahi NSW Australia None

ER
14-12-2011, 07:37 PM
No confirmation email to say that my payment has been recieved, no mention on the Aus champs website.

No official list from for the reserves on this thread.

Has the organising committee recieved my payment or not?

Almost a week since payment.

Hey Trenty relax mate! everything will be ok.

BTW

this is the firm of my Investment Financial Advisers

ParkTrent Properties Group

Do you own the company??? :hmm: :lol:

Santa
14-12-2011, 08:27 PM
EntrantsTitle First name Surname State Country Lightning



FM Bobby Cheng VIC Australia None
Mr John Langer Vic Australia yes


Strewth.
Can't we please, have separate lists for the different tournaments? Sandlers lists, I could parse easily, classify them into the correct tournaments (because they were posted that way), lookup their ratings and post back the rated list. I can't do that with this list, because there are some players without automatic qualification for the champs (such as the young Smirnov) who may be granted discretionary entry.

Even with Sandlers lists, some names (such as Chew Lee) were a little tricky.

ER
14-12-2011, 08:40 PM
Strewth.
Can't we please, have separate lists for the different tournaments? Sandlers lists, I could parse easily, classify them into the correct tournaments (because they were posted that way), lookup their ratings and post back the rated list. I can't do that with this list, because there are some players without automatic qualification for the champs (such as the young Smirnov) who may be granted discretionary entry.

Even with Sandlers lists, some names (such as Chew Lee) were a little tricky.

That happens when every "I am a goody goody Tom Dick and Harry and I am here too"! , is allowed to appear out of the blue to add to the general confusion! Only Max and Santa have presented a proper Championship list so far! Leonid, please authorise someone to do this job properly. This is the Aus Championship!

Leonid Sandler
14-12-2011, 08:59 PM
Australian Championship 2012

Current list(as per December 14/2011)

1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Darryl Johansen---GM (VIC)

4.Stephen Solomon---IM(QLD)

5.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

6.James Morris---IM(VIC)

7.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

8.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

9.Andrew Bird--(NSW)

10.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)

11.Chris Wallis--- FM-(VIC)

12.Justin Tan----(VIC)

13.Laurence Matheson---(VIC)

14.Fedja Zulfic----(SA)---subject to the selectors approval

15.Karl Zelesco---(VIC)---subject to the selectors approval

16.Domagoj Dragicevic--(VIC)

17.Yi Liu---(QLD)

18.Max Illingworth--FM--(NSW)

19.Gene Nakauchi----( QLD)

20.Michael Sugrue----( VIC)---- subject to the selectors approval

21.Dusan Stojic---FM--(VIC)

22.Vladimir Smirnov--IM--( NSW)

23.Anton Smirnov----(NSW)---subject to the selectors approval

24.Justin Penrose----(VIC)----subject to the selectors approval

25.Akshat Khamparia---IM--( INDIA)

26.Alex Wohl--IM --(QLD)

27.Eddy Levi--FM--(VIC)---subject to the selectors approval

28.Jonas Muller(QLD)---subject to the selectors approval

29.Brodie McClymont (QLD)

30.David Beaumont(VIC)---subject to the selectors approval

Leonid Sandler
14-12-2011, 09:16 PM
Australian Championship Reserves 2012
current list

1.Kevin Perrin--VIC

2.Elliott Renzies--VIC

3.Ian Rout---ACT

4.Ben Kersten---VIC

5.Geoff Barber---SA

6.Martin Jack---QLD

7.John Langer---VIC

8.Peter Fry---VIC

9.Nigel Barrow---VIC

10.Johan Visser---NSW

11.Ari Dale---VIC

12.Finley Dale---VIC

13.Matthew Radisich----ACT

14.Harry Hoholis---VIC

15.Jonas Muller----QLD---- may be Championship player

16.Aurel-John Buciu---QLD

17.Frank Lekkas----VIC

18.Bill Stokie-----VIC

19.Marcus Raine---VIC

20.Ben Ingram---NSW

21.Colin McKenzie---VIC

22.Alana Chew-Lee---VIC

23.Max Chew-Lee----VIC

24.John Beckman-----VIC

25.Thomas Ebeyan---VIC

26.Shu Hon Edwin Chung---SA

27.Felix Wyss---VIC

28.Richard Lilly---WA

29.John Summerfield---WA

30.Ian Dickson---NSW

31.Francesco Antoniazzi---VIC

32.Kinto Wan----NSW

33.Paul Power----VIC

34.Dennis Wan---NSW

35.Bas Van Riel---VIC

36.Rad Chmiel---VIC

37.Kyle Gibson---VIC

38.Colin Savage--VIC

39.Mary Wilkie---NSW

40.Zachary Loh---VIC

41.Richard Voon---VIC

42.Omar Khaled---VIC

43.Michael Addamo---VIC

44.Kim Skeltys-----VIC

45.Matthew Bennett---ACT

46.Joshua Bishop---ACT

47.Jason Tang----VIC

48.Pengya Chen---NSW

49.Constantin Mutu--VIC

50.Glenn Ingham---ACT

51.Patrick Cook---VIC

52.Amelia Mendes---VIC

53.Vineetha Wijesuriya---VIC

54.Kerry Stead---VIC

55.Tony Davis---VIC

56.Doug Hamilton---VIC

57.Zoran Babic---VIC

58.Michael Placentino--VIC

59.Thumula Gamage---VIC

60. Trent Parker--- NSW

61. Maris Cekulis--- QLD

62. David Spuler-- QLD

63. David Beaumont-- VIC

64. Alistair Anderson ---VIC

65. Megan Setiabudi-- ACT

66. Allen Setiabudi--- ACT

67. Shanon Vuglar-- ACT

68. Ihsan Ferozkohi--- WA

69. John Dowling --VIC

70. Mark Stokes---QLD

71. Wenlin Yin ---ACT

72. John Humphrey --QLD

73. Joshua Bakanursky--VIC

74. Leteisha Simmonds--QLD

75. Nicholas Kordahi--- NSW

mikesguns
14-12-2011, 10:35 PM
[list snipped-mod]
Just noticed I wasnt in the lightening could I be added please.
Michael:)

antichrist
14-12-2011, 11:48 PM
David Beaumont, my mate, has stated that he applied for the main Aust Championship but has been allocated in to the reserves, this in spite of his FIDE rating being higher than 5 other players selected for the main comp.

Is there any valid reason for this? Is it a mistake? Can it be altered please?

Kevin Bonham
15-12-2011, 12:09 AM
No-one who applied for the main Championships and requires approval to be admitted has been the subject of a ruling yet, except for the admission of the overseas players Steadman and Khamparia. The organisers are shortly going to send the selection committee, of which I am the secretary, their list of who is seeking approval for the Championships and decisions will be made then. See http://www.auschess.org.au/constitution/By-law1.txt and especially 2b and 3g which are the main subjective admission rules for Australian applicants.

Anyone who sincerely believes they applied for the Championships but is not listed as an entrant or prospective entrant should contact the organisers.

antichrist
15-12-2011, 12:24 AM
If you now believe that David Beaumont is serious in his claim of wanting to play in the main competition can you query which if he is on the correct list? How contactable is Leonid by the way on these matters? Is he the only organiser?

ER
15-12-2011, 12:24 AM
No-one who applied for the main Championships and requires approval to be admitted has been the subject of a ruling yet, except for the admission of the overseas players Steadman and Khamparia. The organisers are shortly going to send the selection committee, of which I am the secretary, their list of who is seeking approval for the Championships and decisions will be made then. See http://www.auschess.org.au/constitution/By-law1.txt and especially 2b and 3g which are the main subjective admission rules for Australian applicants.

Anyone who sincerely believes they applied for the Championships but is not listed as an entrant or prospective entrant should contact the organisers.

After the final list for the Championship is decided are we going to have that POLL? We had one two years ago I remember it well because I was there!

Kevin Bonham
15-12-2011, 12:24 AM
By the way I have some doubts (to say the least) that Mr Beaumont is serious but just thought I should post the above in case it is useful for anyone else.

Ian Rout
15-12-2011, 07:50 AM
Yes, but you wouldn't expect such a huge rush of entries on the day for an event like this ... plus it would not be entirely unreasonable for the organisers to say that entries on the day would not be paired for round 1, to further discourage the 'super-late' entry.
In practice it wouldn't be surprising if the odd late entry is accepted under these conditions. But that's a bit different from making it a right.

There might in particular be a few words said if someone wins the event after sneaking in late, having had far more time to prepare for known contenders while not letting on that they themselves will be playing.

george
15-12-2011, 08:34 AM
Hi Kevin,

Folks should also be aware of 3 (e).

regards

antichrist
15-12-2011, 09:51 AM
leonid Sandler: I have added David Beaumont to the Australian Championship 2012 list subject to the selectors approval.See the relevant thread.As Kevin Bonham have mentioned Gary Wastell will review both lists tonight and the selectors will be ready to do their job

Kevin Bonham
15-12-2011, 10:59 AM
I'd suggest getting official confirmation as to whether Beaumont's entry form shows him as applying for the top division.

doubleroo
15-12-2011, 11:06 AM
New Zealanders are one matter because they often allow us to play in their events but who is this Indian guy? Does he live/ study here? What is his excuse? Can Australians now play in the Indian Championship? I am sure the decision makers have some by-law to justify this stupid decision as I have the Innate right to reconsider my participation.

Kevin Bonham
15-12-2011, 11:26 AM
He won the 2011 SIO and also played in the 2011 Doeberl.

The automatic entry of up to four overseas players is catered for in by-law 3 h (i), but because that by-law has implementation problems and needs redrafting, the ACF overrode it and gave the selections committee discretion to decide which overseas applications would be accepted and when.

doubleroo
15-12-2011, 12:11 PM
This was not always the case. I believe that the by-law was introduced to facilitate GM norms some years ago. It did achieve this Goal with David Smerdon getting a norm in Brisbane. The cost was the total distortion of the championships. Lets just abandon the Championship and have an open every year then.

StokesyRedcliff
15-12-2011, 12:52 PM
Hi All
After his Amazing Chess performance on Board 1 for Redcliffe in the Qld Teams Chess Event on Sat Dec 10 , followed by his outstanding performance in the Qld Lightning Championships that same day (See CAQ Website for all the details) Brodie McClymont entered the Australian Chess Championships at the Commonwealth Bank at Strathpine in Qld by direct deposit on Tuesday Dec 13.
I rang L Sander to confirm this on Dec 14 and he rang me back to double check this was the case.
I entered the Reserves at the same Bank at the same time as Brodie.

Looking forward to Geelong and cheering on all the QUEENSLANDERS, the new President of the Chess Association of Queensland Inc, Mark Stokes.
I can be contacted on 0431 419136 or be e-mail on
markcstokes@hotmail.com

ER
15-12-2011, 01:03 PM
Hi All
After his Amazing Chess performance on Board 1 for Redcliffe in the Qld Teams Chess Event on Sat Dec 10 , followed by his outstanding performance in the Qld Lightning Championships that same day (See CAQ Website for all the details) Brodie McClymont entered the Australian Chess Championships at the Commonwealth Bank at Strathpine in Qld by direct deposit on Tuesday Dec 13.
I rang L Sander to confirm this on Dec 14 and he rang me back to double check this was the case.
I entered the Reserves at the same Bank at the same time as Brodie.

Looking forward to Geelong and cheering on all the QUEENSLANDERS, the new President of the Chess Association of Queensland Inc, Mark Stokes.
I can be contacted on 0431 419136 or be e-mail on
markcstokes@hotmail.com


You are all welcome in Geelong! It 'll be nice to see you, Brodie, Stephen and all the other boys there!
GO THE QUEENSLANDERS!!!
And Stokesy Congrats for the Presidency! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Santa
16-12-2011, 12:48 AM
Australian Championship Reserves 2012
current list


I do not have anyone who could plausibly be Maris Cekulis, but I did find this game:
[Event "Adelaide Easter"]
[Site "Adelaide"]
[Date "1964.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Cekulis, Maris"]
[Black "Koshnitsky, Gregory Simon"]
[Result "1-0"]
[PlyCount "65"]
[ECO "B27"]
[Opening "Sicilian, Hungarian V"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g6 3. d4 Bg7 4. Be3 Nf6 5. Nc3 cxd4 6. Nxd4 O-O 7. Be2 d5 8. e5
Ne8 9. f4 Nc6 10. Bf3 e6 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. Bc5 Rb8 13. O-O Qa5 14. Bxf8 Bxf8
15. Rb1 Ng7 16. g4 Rb4 17. Ne2 Qxa2 18. c3 Rxb2 19. Rxb2 Qxb2 20. Qb1 Bc5+ 21.
Kg2 Qb6 22. Qxb6 Bxb6 23. Rc1 c5 24. c4 d4 25. Ng3 Ne8 26. Bc6 Kf8 27. Ne4 Nc7
28. Nd6 Ba6 29. f5 exf5 30. Rf1 Ne6 31. gxf5 Nd8 32. Bd5 g5 33. Ra1 1-0


I also found a golf player and a bridge player, both on the Gold Coast, so I'm assuming this is not a novice player.

I'd appreciate if someone could get back to me with an ACF ID and the rating being used for paring purpose. For the moment I will record the player as unrated and a number unlikely to be use for real.

PS FIDE has no Cekulis either.

Santa
16-12-2011, 01:11 AM
Presumably, there are some wannabe championship players to come, and hopefully someone will see fit to promote No 1 to the championship, I reckon a player rated of 2149 shows playing proficienty equivalent to 2150.

--
1 Ferozkohi Ihsan 2149
2 Savige Colin B 2079
3 Tang Jason 2071
4 Chen Pengyu 2051
5 Muller Jonas 2040
6 Raine Marcus 2000
7 Hamilton Douglas G 2000
8 Stead Kerry 1988
9 Dowling John 1976
10 Beaumont David 1972
11 Addamo Michael 1972
12 Yin Wenlin 1942
13 Spuler David 1936
14 Lekkas Frank 1924
15 Khaled Omar 1908
16 Barrow Nigel 1891
17 Dale Ari 1887
18 Kordahi Nicholas 1869
19 Loh Zachary 1860
20 Hoholis Harry 1852
21 Wan Kinto 1850
22 Lilly Richard 1847
23 Setiabudi Allen 1847
24 Ingram Ben W 1846
25 Anderson Alistair 1840
26 Voon Richard 1838
27 Wyss Felix 1822
28 Rout Ian C 1810
29 Davis Tony J 1808
30 Fry Peter 1786
31 Wan Dennis 1762
32 Bishop Joshua 1758
33 Bennett Matthew 1746
34 Visser Johan 1740
35 Chmiel Rad 1738
36 Wijesuriya Vineetha 1718
37 Skeltys Kim 1709
38 Chew Lee Max 1702
39 Babic Zoran 1685
40 McKenzie Colin D 1674
41 Van Riel Bas 1658
42 Antoniazzi Francesco 1656
43 Buciu Aurel-John 1637
44 Jack Martin 1633
45 Parker Trent 1622
46 Cook Patrick 1608
47 Simmonds Leteisha 1600
48 Gibson Kyle 1598
49 Bakanursky Josh 1596
50 Stokes Mark C 1582
51 Beckman John 1582
52 Stokie William 1578
53 Perrin Kevin J 1560
54 Setiabudi Megan 1552
55 Placentino Michael 1545
56 Dickson Ian C 1542
57 Vuglar Shanon 1538
58 Power Paul 1535
59 Barber Geoffrey 1535
60 Kersten Ben 1531
61 Ingham Glenn 1520
62 Chung Edwin Shu Hon 1458
63 Radisich Matt 1402
64 Wilkie Mary E 1396
65 Renzies Elliott 1381
66 Summerfield John 1368
67 Dale Finley 1303
68 Langer John 1281
69 Humphrey John 1277
70 Mutu Con 1274
71 Gamage Thumula 1127
72 Chew Lee Alanna 980
73 Ebeyan Thomas 881
74 Mendes Amelia 157
75 Cekulis Maris 0

--

Note, if someone can give a a rating for Cekulis then rankings and prospective pairings will change on that account.

antichrist
16-12-2011, 08:39 AM
My mate, David Beaumont, is disputing the ratings here. Where do they come from and are they relevant for the Aust Champ?

antichrist
16-12-2011, 08:43 AM
1997!! 9 152 43 Beaumont, David

this is what found in one rating list?

Hobbes
16-12-2011, 08:46 AM
My mate, David Beaumont, is disputing the ratings here. Where do they come from and are they relevant for the Aust Champ?

Maybe they are from the Compaq computer?

Santa
16-12-2011, 09:13 AM
My mate, David Beaumont, is disputing the ratings here. Where do they come from and are they relevant for the Aust Champ?

I have embarrassed myself. I downloaded the Dec ratings as soon as they were available, then neglected to load them into my database.

Here are ratings from the Dec masterfile, which I have loaded.


1 Ferozkohi Ihsan 2149
2 Savige Colin B 2079
3 Tang Jason 2071
4 Chen Pengyu 2051
5 Muller Jonas 2040
6 Raine Marcus 2000
7 Hamilton Douglas G 1999
8 Beaumont David 1997
9 Dowling John 1987
10 Stead Kerry 1981
11 Yin Wenlin 1942
12 Lekkas Frank 1939
13 Spuler David 1936
14 Khaled Omar 1936
15 Addamo Michael 1906
16 Dale Ari 1892
17 Barrow Nigel 1891
18 Kordahi Nicholas 1869
19 Hoholis Harry 1852
20 Wan Kinto 1850
21 Lilly Richard 1847
22 Setiabudi Allen 1847
23 Loh Zachary 1846
24 Ingram Ben W 1846
25 Voon Richard 1842
26 Anderson Alistair 1840
27 Wyss Felix 1822
28 Rout Ian C 1809
29 Davis Tony J 1807
30 Fry Peter 1802
31 Wan Dennis 1762
32 Bishop Joshua 1758
33 Bennett Matthew 1746
34 Visser Johan 1740
35 Chmiel Rad 1736
36 Wijesuriya Vineetha 1716
37 Skeltys Kim 1709
38 Chew Lee Max 1703
39 Gibson Kyle 1675
40 McKenzie Colin D 1674
41 Antoniazzi Francesco 1656
42 Babic Zoran 1654
43 Buciu Aurel-John 1637
44 Jack Martin 1633
45 Van Riel Bas 1626
46 Parker Trent 1622
47 Cook Patrick 1608
48 Stokie William 1605
49 Simmonds Leteisha 1599
50 Bakanursky Josh 1596
51 Stokes Mark C 1581
52 Beckman John 1569
53 Power Paul 1569
54 Perrin Kevin J 1557
55 Setiabudi Megan 1552
56 Placentino Michael 1545
57 Dickson Ian C 1542
58 Vuglar Shanon 1537
59 Kersten Ben 1536
60 Barber Geoffrey 1535
61 Ingham Glenn 1520
62 Chung Edwin Shu Hon 1458
63 Radisich Matt 1402
64 Wilkie Mary E 1395
65 Renzies Elliott 1387
66 Summerfield John 1368
67 Dale Finley 1306
68 Langer John 1281
69 Humphrey John 1277
70 Mutu Con 1274
71 Gamage Thumula 1154
72 Chew Lee Alanna 979
73 Ebeyan Thomas 877
74 Mendes Amelia 157
75 Cekulis Maris 0

ER
16-12-2011, 11:23 AM
I 'd suggest that from now on and until the tournament begins, only authorised persons to publish entry lists!

Max Illingworth
16-12-2011, 11:27 AM
I 'd suggest that from now on and until the tournament begins, only authorised persons to publish entry lists!

Surely it is beneficial to be able to see the entry lists in rating order.

antichrist
16-12-2011, 11:31 AM
I 'd suggest that from now on and until the tournament begins, only authorised persons to publish entry lists!

and unauthorised personal like myself clam it?

Denis_Jessop
16-12-2011, 11:54 AM
and unauthorised personal like myself clam it?

Your best idea for decades :D

DJ

Kevin Bonham
16-12-2011, 07:32 PM
Presumably, there are some wannabe championship players to come, and hopefully someone will see fit to promote No 1 to the championship, I reckon a player rated of 2149 shows playing proficienty equivalent to 2150.

Whether he does or not is irrelevant because he is not a citizen or permanent resident and therefore cannot be entered into the Championships under the "equivalent proficiency" rule.

Santa
17-12-2011, 12:03 AM
Whether he does or not is irrelevant because he is not a citizen or permanent resident and therefore cannot be entered into the Championships under the "equivalent proficiency" rule.

5. The ACF Council may, in exceptional circumstances, invite one otherwise
ineligible player to compete in the Australian Chess Championship.

So it is possible.

Oh. I believe I've set eyes on him, we might have played in the same lightning tournament last month.

I don't know what "exceptional circumstances" might mean, but I suspect that if here were eight years old, his parents intended to stay in Oz and he lived in the eastern states, that might count. In contrast, he's older than that and WA is no chessplayer's Mecca.

So, possible but improbable. I might sneak in though:-)

Santa
17-12-2011, 02:46 AM
I have embarrassed myself. I downloaded the Dec ratings as soon as they were available, then neglected to load them into my database.

Here are ratings from the Dec masterfile, which I have loaded.


Harrumph.

The ACF distributes two files for standard ratings. You can get them from here:
http://www.auschess.org.au/ratings/acfrate.htm

The file described as ACF master list zipped is called decmst11.zip. Inside it, here is a file called decmst11.txt.

Those of you who are familiar with Linux commands will have noproblem here:
00:29 [summer@ChessDev tmp]$ grep -E Beaumon.*D decmst11.txt
3096224 1972!! VIC Beaumont, David
00:29 [summer@ChessDev tmp]$
Basically, the grep command is scanning the text file. printing all lines matching "Beaumon.*D" which happens to be one, David Beaumont's rating.

This is not the rating for David that appears on the ACF website, but it is the file that was created in November for release on December 1.

The second file is described "acfmast.zip" and that is the name of the file. The file inside it of interest is acfmast.trn, and it's in the ancient dBaseIiI format.

On Linux, I have a program to extract data fom it, and here is what I find about David:
00:29 [summer@ChessDev tmp]$ dbview -bt acfmast.trn | grep Beaumont:David
1736:1736:1736:Beaumont:David:VIC:::1997::3201996: 3096224:0:1:19670923::::::::::
That 1997 is the rating currently published on the ACF website.

The Active Player list on the ACF website is a plain text file and you can get your own at http://www.auschess.org.au/ratings/dec11/dec11act.txt

It was last changed at Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:25:33 GMT

Now, I don't know which, if either, set of ratings is "correct." Probably, the one that is actually used for pairing is important to us.

I am, however, withdrawing my plea of guilt.

By the way, it's not only David's rating that's different between the two lists, quite a few are.

I will be departing on Monday, if I see another list of applicants and have time, I will post a rated version. I will try to remember use the list that's more flattering to David as my rating is the same on both.
Ok?

Santa
17-12-2011, 02:49 AM
Those of you who are familiar with Linux commands will have noproblem here:
00:29 [summer@ChessDev tmp]$ grep -E Beaumon.*D decmst11.txt
3096224 1972!! VIC Beaumont, David
00:29 [summer@ChessDev tmp]$
Basically, the grep command is scanning the text file. printing all lines matching "Beaumon.*D" which happens to be one, David Beaumont's rating.


Evidently I should have turned smilies off.

Ian Rout
17-12-2011, 07:18 AM
The probable reason for the discrepancies in several players' ratings described above is that sometimes mistakes are discovered after the first release of the ratings, such as a tournament missed or put on the wrong list. In such cases the list has to be re-done in the early days of the quarter.

The file acfmast.trn is issued about ten days after the start of the quarter when these disruptions should have settled, so that there is only one version of it.

In this quarter a number of Vic and NSW events were added late.

Santa
17-12-2011, 08:04 AM
The probable reason for the discrepancies in several players' ratings described above is that sometimes mistakes are discovered after the first release of the ratings, such as a tournament missed or put on the wrong list. In such cases the list has to be re-done in the early days of the quarter.

The file acfmast.trn is issued about ten days after the start of the quarter when these disruptions should have settled, so that there is only one version of it.

In this quarter a number of Vic and NSW events were added late.

Hopefully, both the files on the website have the same information in them now. I had a program automatically trying to retrieve them each hour until done, so pretty much as soon as one was published I got it.

I'm glad to see an explanation that doesn't involve my insanity.:wall:

Kevin Bonham
17-12-2011, 10:05 AM
5. The ACF Council may, in exceptional circumstances, invite one otherwise
ineligible player to compete in the Australian Chess Championship.

So it is possible.

Indeed but that would not be a decision under the "equivalent proficiency" rule. "Exceptional circumstances" can mean a very wide range of things and the rule is now and then used for the far from exceptional circumstance of needing to avoid the bye.


I don't know what "exceptional circumstances" might mean, but I suspect that if here were eight years old, his parents intended to stay in Oz and he lived in the eastern states, that might count.

That insinuation of state bias is really very silly.

Note that each State Association has the right to nominate a representative "who is, in the opinion of the ACF Council, ordinarily resident in that State, if that State would not otherwise have a person in the Australian Chess Championship."

CAWA have not nominated a representative.

Santa
17-12-2011, 09:58 PM
Indeed but that would not be a decision under the "equivalent proficiency" rule. "Exceptional circumstances" can mean a very wide range of things and the rule is now and then used for the far from exceptional circumstance of needing to avoid the bye.



That insinuation of state bias is really very silly.

Note that each State Association has the right to nominate a representative "who is, in the opinion of the ACF Council, ordinarily resident in that State, if that State would not otherwise have a person in the Australian Chess Championship."

CAWA have not nominated a representative.

It's nothing to do with state bias, it's to do with opportunities. To run a tournament here where norms are possible we' d have to import a swag of titled players from other places. The best we have here is an FM or two. Two I can think of, one of them in ill health.

If a player here wants norms, the closest places to go are Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore. Even getting to FM standard here is problematic, there just are not the strong players for competition.

Max Illingworth
17-12-2011, 10:36 PM
It's nothing to do with state bias, it's to do with opportunities. To run a tournament here where norms are possible we' d have to import a swag of titled players from other places. The best we have here is an FM or two. Two I can think of, one of them in ill health.

If a player here wants norms, the closest places to go are Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore. Even getting to FM standard here is problematic, there just are not the strong players for competition.

Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore are all below Australia on the world rankings, though that may change if Azmai changes federations and represents Singapore.

There are some Australian players who represent other federations, which is excellent in terms of organising events with norm opportunities (not including the Australian Championships/Open, for which the federations rule does not apply).

Kevin Bonham
17-12-2011, 11:04 PM
It's nothing to do with state bias, it's to do with opportunities.

That doesn't seem consistent to me with your original comment, which was about whether or not an applicant with the same basic facts would be admitted under different circumstances pertaining to age and state.

What you say about WA having fewer opportunities is of course true. I will point out that the ACF does in fact give a small measure of discrimination in favour of small states by (i) allowing them to enter their state champions even if these would not otherwise qualify (ii) allowing them to have a nominated entrant who would otherwise not qualify if their champion is not available. Also note that the nominated entrant only needs to be "ordinarily resident" in the state (which is quite open to interpretation).

If you think there should be more positive discrimination for small states re Aus Champs admission then lobby your state delegate with a suggestion for policy change - but the selectors shouldn't be subject to insinuations of state bias for doing a job in accord with the existing regulations.

Santa
18-12-2011, 08:34 AM
That doesn't seem consistent to me with your original comment, which was about whether or not an applicant with the same basic facts would be admitted under different circumstances pertaining to age and state.

What you say about WA having fewer opportunities is of course true. I will point out that the ACF does in fact give a small measure of discrimination in favour of small states by (i) allowing them to enter their state champions even if these would not otherwise qualify (ii) allowing them to have a nominated entrant who would otherwise not qualify if their champion is not available. Also note that the nominated entrant only needs to be "ordinarily resident" in the state (which is quite open to interpretation).

If you think there should be more positive discrimination for small states re Aus Champs admission then lobby your state delegate with a suggestion for policy change - but the selectors shouldn't be subject to insinuations of state bias for doing a job in accord with the existing regulations.

Have another look at what I have said.It's nothing to do with state bias and it's nothing to do with the ACF.

I suspect that had I expressed the desire (and I thought about it), lacking any other candidate, that I could play in the championships.

I'm sure it would raise some eyebrows, and over the longer term it might actually be good for chess: especially if I won a game!

Santa
18-12-2011, 08:44 AM
Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore are all below Australia on the world rankings, though that may change if Azmai changes federations and represents Singapore.

There are some Australian players who represent other federations, which is excellent in terms of organising events with norm opportunities (not including the Australian Championships/Open, for which the federations rule does not apply).

The points about those locations are that they do have international events, and that they are closer to Perth than the eastern capitals. Adelaide is closer, but I've not heard of opportunities there either.

Santa
18-12-2011, 09:09 AM
That doesn't seem consistent to me with your original comment, which was about whether or not an applicant with the same basic facts would be admitted under different circumstances pertaining to age and state.
.

I think this deserves and answer too. As I'm in Western Australia, I could play even though I'm rated around 800 below the ratings floor. for entry. Many stronger Victorians such as David Cordover, George Zaprudsky could not.

Jack Ruan ( don't know all his particulars) might be admitted because he's a strong young player with prospects. Marcus Raine probably would not, though his rating is similar. Trevor Tao was admitted for similar reason, though he was further from qualification by rating.


I think these kinds of discrimination are good I don't think that he rules intended for a state to nominate someone of my age and standard, but overly prescriptive rules can have worse consequences.

If the ACF could find a coach for these youngsters for the period of the competition, that would be even better.

Brian_Jones
18-12-2011, 09:15 AM
It's nothing to do with state bias, it's to do with opportunities. To run a tournament here where norms are possible we' d have to import a swag of titled players from other places. The best we have here is an FM or two. Two I can think of, one of them in ill health.

If a player here wants norms, the closest places to go are Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore. Even getting to FM standard here is problematic, there just are not the strong players for competition.

Santa. Don't leave all the work to Haydn Barber!

Why not organise the "Perth Internatonal Open" over an extended Foundation Day Weekend.

You would be surprised how many players from the eastern States would make themselves available!

All it takes is some organisational skills and some imagination.

antichrist
18-12-2011, 09:21 AM
Santa. Don't leave all the work to Haydn Barber!

Why not organise the "Perth Internatonal Open" over an extended Foundation Day Weekend.

You would be surprised how many players from the eastern States would make themselves available!

All it takes is some organisational skills and some imagination.

And you will find that people will come out of the woodwork to assist - hopefully Brian with the international part

Kevin Bonham
18-12-2011, 12:54 PM
Have another look at what I have said.It's nothing to do with state bias and it's nothing to do with the ACF.

This is the comment in question:

I don't know what "exceptional circumstances" might mean, but I suspect that if here were eight years old, his parents intended to stay in Oz and he lived in the eastern states, that might count.

I cannot see any other way to interpret that than a suggestion that a particular player would be admitted if he lived in the eastern states rather than WA. If that was not your intention you should have expressed it much more clearly.

By the way you are allowed to reread your own posts to see what they actually said before commenting on their content!

And yes, in theory there would be nothing to stop CAWA from nominating you as their top-division representative if they wanted to. Though I suspect if any state nominated a top-division representative who was manifestly far too weak, the By-Law would be changed for the following event to include a rating minimum.

antichrist
18-12-2011, 02:38 PM
Can I represent Julian Rocks off Byron Bay, I am the highest rated there?

Kevin Bonham
18-12-2011, 02:52 PM
Can I represent Julian Rocks off Byron Bay, I am the highest rated there?

Are you "ordinarily resident" on Julian Rocks (http://www.julianrocks.net/)? Should you be?

Rincewind
18-12-2011, 03:21 PM
Are you "ordinarily resident" on Julian Rocks (http://www.julianrocks.net/)? Should you be?

Sounds like AC is one of these nudibranchs.

His next avatar could be

antichrist
18-12-2011, 03:43 PM
sorry to be off topic but isn't the marine life there fantastic, will get out there one day when doing diving course, I know divers who have been nudged by those sharks

to be on topic

How about we hold an Aust Champ at Byron Bay one year? Could not get a better location. Ballina airport 20 mins away, Gold Coast airport 45 mins away, Brissie airport 2 hours away off peak time. It is perfect weather in spring and auturm and exellent in summer. Trouble is the young guys may not turn up for the games

Max Illingworth
19-12-2011, 11:24 AM
When will the provisional field for the 2012 Australian Championship be confirmed?

Bill Gletsos
19-12-2011, 01:36 PM
When will the provisional field for the 2012 Australian Championship be confirmed?Later tonight.

Leonid Sandler
19-12-2011, 08:30 PM
The Australian Championship 2012 selection committee has determined that the

following players for the upcoming Championship .


1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Darryl Johansen---GM (VIC)

4.Stephen Solomon---IM(QLD)

5.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

6.James Morris---IM(VIC)

7.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

8.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

9.Andrew Bird--(NSW)

10.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)

11.Chris Wallis--- FM-(VIC)

12.Justin Tan----(VIC)

13.Laurence Matheson---(VIC)

14.Fedja Zulfic----(SA)


15.Karl Zelesco---(VIC)


16.Domagoj Dragicevic--(VIC)

17.Yi Liu---(QLD)

18.Max Illingworth--FM--(NSW)

19.Gene Nakauchi----( QLD)

20.Jason Tang----( VIC)

21.Dusan Stojic---FM--(VIC)

22.Vladimir Smirnov--IM--( NSW)

23.Anton Smirnov----(NSW)

24.Pengyu Chen---( NSW)

25.Akshat Khamparia---IM--( INDIA)

26.Alex Wohl--IM --(QLD)

27.Brodie McClymont (QLD)

28.Jonas Muller(QLD)

Lekko
19-12-2011, 09:13 PM
Can we get the reserves list as well Leonid?

that Caesar guy
19-12-2011, 09:33 PM
The Australian Championship 2012 selection committee has determined that the

following players for the upcoming Championship .


1.Zong-Yuan Zhao---- GM(NSW)

2.George Xie--------IM(NSW)

3.Darryl Johansen---GM (VIC)

4.Stephen Solomon---IM(QLD)

5.Moulthun Ly----IM(QLD)

6.James Morris---IM(VIC)

7.Bobby Cheng---FM(VIC)

8.Junta Ikeda---FM(ACT)

9.Andrew Bird--(NSW)

10.Mike Steadman---FM(New Zealand)

11.Chris Wallis--- FM-(VIC)

12.Justin Tan----(VIC)

13.Laurence Matheson---(VIC)

14.Fedja Zulfic----(SA)


15.Karl Zelesco---(VIC)


16.Domagoj Dragicevic--(VIC)

17.Yi Liu---(QLD)

18.Max Illingworth--FM--(NSW)

19.Gene Nakauchi----( QLD)

20.Jason Tang----( VIC)

21.Dusan Stojic---FM--(VIC)

22.Vladimir Smirnov--IM--( NSW)

23.Anton Smirnov----(NSW)

24.Pengyu Chen---( NSW)

25.Akshat Khamparia---IM--( INDIA)

26.Alex Wohl--IM --(QLD)

27.Brodie McClymont (QLD)

28.Jonas Muller(QLD)
Why not accept 4 other people to make it 32? There are other people who applied who potentially could have been accepted, and 32 is a much nicer number than 28

Max Illingworth
19-12-2011, 09:58 PM
The Australian Championship 2012 selection committee has determined that the

following players for the upcoming Championship .

Thank you for this list Leonid. Here is the same list, in FIDE rating order.


Zong-Yuan Zhao 2564
George Xie 2440
Akshat Khamparia 2414
Aleksandar Wohl 2404
Darryl Johansen 2403
Max Illingworth 2401
Vladimir Smirnov 2401
Stephen Solomon 2384
Moulthun Ly 2376
James Morris 2364
Junta Ikeda 2349
Bobby Cheng 2345
Dusan Stojic 2287
Michael Steadman 2269
Christopher Wallis 2268
Domagoj Dragicevic 2247
Andrew Bird 2216
Justin Tan 2160
Laurence Matheson 2126
Gene Nakauchi 2116
Pengyu Chen 2094
Fedja Zulfic 2087
Anton Smirnov 2063
Brodie McClymont 2049
Yi Liu 2039
Jonas Muller 2023
Jason Tang 2008
Karl Zelesco 1976

Kevin Bonham
19-12-2011, 09:59 PM
There are other people who applied who potentially could have been accepted, and 32 is a much nicer number than 28

For a Swiss as opposed to a knockout 32 is really just another even number unless you assume that the top half are all going to win their early games, which a few of them typically don't. Might as well make it 42 as a tribute to Douglas Adams, or 36 because it's square.

There is a downside when you accept more entries into the top division in that the rating average for the strong performers tends to be reduced in the earlier rounds (not just the opponent you can uplift but other opponents as well) making title norms somewhat more difficult.

The current rules don't say field size should be taken into account so if anyone thinks it should they should ask their state association to have a motion put to the ACF to set a specific field size or to loosen the entry criteria.

Metro
19-12-2011, 10:05 PM
For a Swiss as opposed to a knockout 32 is really just another even number unless you assume that the top half are all going to win their early games, which a few of them typically don't. Might as well make it 42 as a tribute to Douglas Adams, or 36 because it's square.

There is a downside when you accept more entries into the top division in that the rating average for the strong performers tends to be reduced in the earlier rounds (not just the opponent you can uplift but other opponents as well) making title norms somewhat more difficult.

The current rules don't say field size should be taken into account so if anyone thinks it should they should ask their state association to have a motion put to the ACF to set a specific field size or to loosen the entry criteria.
I say 28 is ample:
1.Keep it stronger.
2.Increase norm opportunities.

ER
19-12-2011, 10:29 PM
Are you guys for real?

This is a weak as piss tournament!

12 out of the 25 strongest Australian players (ACF ratings) aren't playing!

Smerdon, Tao, Goldenberg, Stephens, Canfell, Boyd, Teichmann, West, Rej, Rujevic, Chapman, Bjelobrk not there!

I wonder if someone tried to contact them.

What do I care really?

see you all there!

Bill Gletsos
19-12-2011, 10:33 PM
Are you guys for real?

This is a weak as piss tournament!

12 out of the 25 strongest Australian players (ACF ratings) aren't playing!

Smerdon, Tao, Goldenberg, Stephens, Canfell, Boyd, Teichmann, West, Rej, Rujevic, Chapman, Bjelobrk not there!10 of the top 13 rated players are playing

Bill Gletsos
19-12-2011, 10:42 PM
Players by ACF rating

Zong-Yuan Zhao 2574
George Xie 2474
Max Illingworth 2434
Aleksandar Wohl 2432
Darryl Johansen 2419
Vladimir Smirnov 2399
Akshat Khamparia 2399
Junta Ikeda 2398
Stephen Solomon 2387
Moulthun Ly 2381
Bobby Cheng 2363
Christopher Wallis 2314
James Morris 2288
Dusan Stojic 2277
Michael Steadman 2234
Domagoj Dragicevic 2215
Andrew Bird 2214
Laurence Matheson 2191
Gene Nakauchi 2188
Yi Liu 2167
Brodie McClymont 2159
Anton Smirnov 2132
Justin Tan 2120
Fedja Zulfic 2100
Jason Tang 2071
Pengyu Chen 2051
Jonas Muller 2040
Karl Zelesco 1964

Denis_Jessop
19-12-2011, 11:39 PM
Why not accept 4 other people to make it 32? There are other people who applied who potentially could have been accepted, and 32 is a much nicer number than 28

And, if I remember rightly, 42 is an even better number, at least according to Douglas Adams.

Seriously, if there were others who had fulfilled the selection criteria we would have selected them. "Potentially could have been accepted" is no test - it is far too vague.

DJ

ER
20-12-2011, 05:20 PM
10 of the top 13 rated players are playing

I noticed that but I stretched it to 25 because a) I wanted to get as close to 28 as possible and b) I couldn't leave out James and Dusan. As is (not extending my list to 28) I left out Ronald, Leonid and Jesse! It's a shame players of their strength aren't playing!

Vlad
20-12-2011, 10:39 PM
I noticed that but I stretched it to 25 because a) I wanted to get as close to 28 as possible and b) I couldn't leave out James and Dusan. As is (not extending my list to 28) I left out Ronald, Leonid and Jesse! It's a shame players of their strength aren't playing!

I did it the other way and noticed that out of top 7 who have fide 2400+, 5 players are from NSW, 1 player is from Victoria and 1 is from India. Then I thought "is not this competition being held in Victoria, the center of chess in Australia?".:eek:

ER
20-12-2011, 11:46 PM
I did it the other way and noticed that out of top 7 who have fide 2400+, 5 players are from NSW, 1 player is from Victoria and 1 is from India. Then I thought "is not this competition being held in Victoria, the center of chess in Australia?".:eek:


Look, I didn't want to do the FIDE trip (ACF ratings are used) because then the no. of "missing" players increases to 15 out of the 28 FIDE strongest.

Neither I wanted to make this as a Victoria vs NSW thingy. (*)

Thank god, we have attracted quite a few QLDers :clap: whereas the representation of other states varies from neglectable to non existent.

I was expecting that the first (after quite a few years) Australian Championship in Victoria would attract the strongest!

I was also expecting a female to take part. At least one member of our Olympians should have been included!



Now let's look at the positive side of things.


The field includes our strongest juniors.

The clashes between the old worriors and the new eagles will be sharp.

The final placings will decide the possible line up of our future Olympians.


(*) I am not parochial, Max :clap: and Anton :clap: are amongst my favourites for this tournament!

Max Illingworth
21-12-2011, 04:45 AM
It might be time for a good old pre-tournament poll. ;)

Santa
21-12-2011, 05:29 AM
Are you guys for real?

This is a weak as piss tournament!

12 out of the 25 strongest Australian players (ACF ratings) aren't playing!

Smerdon, Tao, Goldenberg, Stephens, Canfell, Boyd, Teichmann, West, Rej, Rujevic, Chapman, Bjelobrk not there!

I wonder if someone tried to contact them.

What do I care really?

see you all there!

Tboyd is a busy lawyer these days, and doesn't play much chess.

ER
21-12-2011, 09:42 AM
It might be time for a good old pre-tournament poll. ;)

Yes, I asked for one in an earlier post too. :) One with numbering the order of predicted placings though not just one straight guess though!

kibitzer
21-12-2011, 09:59 AM
Any plans for some kind of shuttle service from the train station to the venue? I notice that the last train before the round times of 1pm arrives at 12:51. It looks like it would take a fit person about 20 mins to walk to the venue, and thus the average chess player would take about 40 mins... :hmm:

Hobbes
21-12-2011, 10:06 AM
Any plans for some kind of shuttle service from the train station to the venue? I notice that the last train before the round times of 1pm arrives at 12:51. It looks like it would take a fit person about 20 mins to walk to the venue, and thus the average chess player would take about 40 mins... :hmm:

What time does the second-last train before 1pm arrive? :hmm:

kibitzer
21-12-2011, 10:16 AM
An hour before that I believe. I envision a gaggle of sweaty players bursting into the playing hall ten to twenty minutes late for their games...

that Caesar guy
21-12-2011, 10:17 AM
An hour before that I believe. I envision a gaggle of sweaty players bursting into the playing hall ten to twenty minutes late for their games...
One of the greatest images you could possibly have, too.

ER
21-12-2011, 10:21 AM
Any plans for some kind of shuttle service from the train station to the venue? I notice that the last train before the round times of 1pm arrives at 12:51. It looks like it would take a fit person about 20 mins to walk to the venue, and thus the average chess player would take about 40 mins... :hmm:

Take bus no. 30 from Geelong Station. I am not sure about North Geelong though!

ER
21-12-2011, 11:05 AM
Are we going to have analysis / commentary by GM Ian Rogers during the tournament?

Who's arbitering / D.O.P?

Will there be a players dispute committee?


Anyway, I am off to Olinda ... had enough of Melbourne the last couple of days! See you all there! At the championship I mean, I am not having any chess (or chessplayers) in Olinda!!! :P

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ChessGuru
21-12-2011, 11:40 AM
Of the 28 players in the Championships:
Only 6 are over 30
9 are Under 18 (6 under 15)
Johansen the oldest
A.Smirnov the youngest

https://auschess.tornelo.com/tournaments/australian-championships

mikesguns
21-12-2011, 11:53 AM
I seem to not be on the list on Tornelo or the Geelong Chess Club website, but I have been on the Chess Chat list since Nov 30. Have I been entered in the reserves?:D

antichrist
22-12-2011, 06:27 PM
if I was a betting man I would back only anyone rated over 2400

Has any outsiders won in previous years? Say under 2300 or 2200?

And could it be called the Australian Open Championship?

Kevin Bonham
22-12-2011, 09:03 PM
Has any outsiders won in previous years?

The last winner who was not at least an IM at the time of winning was Wallace in 1994. I don't know what his rating was at the time.


And could it be called the Australian Open Championship?

No; the Open is a different event held alternately with the Australian Championships.

Max Illingworth
22-12-2011, 09:25 PM
The last winner who was not at least an IM at the time of winning was Wallace in 1994. I don't know what his rating was at the time.



No; the Open is a different event held alternately with the Australian Championships.

I think his rating was 2285 but I could be wrong.

Vlad
22-12-2011, 10:05 PM
AUS-ch op Melbourne 1993


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
1 Wallace,John Paul 2285 -1 +1 -1 - +1 +1 -1 +0 -0 +1 -1 8.5/11
26 20 15 8 3 25 10 5 2 7 12
2 Gluzman,Mikhail 2435 - +0 -1 +1 -0 +1 -1 -1 +1 - +1 8.0/11
23 15 20 30 12 21 25 3 1 8 5
3 Tao,Trevor -1 +1 -1 +1 -0 - + +0 -1 +1 + 7.5/11
22 9 5 11 1 8 6 2 13 15 10
4 Ostrowski,Leszek 2340 -0 +1 -0 +1 -1 +1 -0 -1 +1 +1 7.0/10
5 29 9 23 11 7 12 17 6 8
5 Wohl,Aleksandar H 2370 +1 -1 +0 -0 +1 +1 -1 -1 +0 - -0 6.5/11
4 16 3 17 26 12 15 1 8 10 2
6 Goldenberg,Igor + +1 + -0 +1 -1 - + + -0 +1 6.5/11
17 19 13 7 9 18 3 12 15 4 25
7 Sandler,Leonid 2315 +0 - +1 +1 -0 -0 +1 +1 -1 -0 +1 6.5/11
16 21 28 6 10 4 19 17 12 1 11
8 Johansen,Darryl Keith 2495 -1 +1 -1 + - + - -1 + -0 6.5/10
29 18 25 1 13 3 17 5 2 4
9 Reilly,Tim 2315 +1 -0 +1 +0 -0 -1 +0 - +1 -1 -1 6.5/11
27 3 4 25 6 16 24 20 23 21 15
10 Kagan,Naum 2335 +0 -1 -1 + +1 -1 +0 +1 + - 6.5/10
25 28 18 12 7 13 1 21 5 3
11 Solomon,Stephen J 2450 +1 +1 +1 -0 +0 -0 -1 + -1 +1 -0 6.5/11
21 25 22 3 4 17 29 14 20 18 7
12 Chapman,Mark 2360 + - +1 - +1 -0 +1 - +0 -1 +0 6.0/11
13 17 14 10 2 5 4 6 7 25 1
13 West,Guy 2410 - +1 - -1 + +0 -0 -1 +0 + -1 6.0/11
12 23 6 15 8 10 16 24 3 17 22
14 Jordan,William 2310 -0 +1 -0 +0 -1 -0 +1 - + +1 -1 6.0/11
15 26 12 16 22 19 27 11 24 29 17
15 Kagan,Issay 2285 +1 -1 +0 +0 -1 -1 +0 +1 - -0 +0 5.5/11
14 2 1 13 20 26 5 25 6 3 9
16 Stephens,Malcolm -1 +0 +0 -1 -1 +0 +1 -0 -0 +1 - 5.5/11
7 5 17 14 19 9 13 21 25 26 18
17 Laird,Craig 2270 - + -1 +1 -0 +1 + -0 +0 - +0 5.0/11
6 12 16 5 25 11 8 7 4 13 14
18 Canfell,Gregory 2295 -1 -0 +0 + -1 +0 -0 +1 -1 -0 + 5.0/11
30 8 10 20 24 6 21 19 27 11 16
19 Kontorovich,Michael + -0 +1 - +0 +1 -0 -0 + - +1 5.0/11
28 6 21 24 16 14 7 18 22 23 30
20 Speck,Nick +1 -0 +0 - +0 -1 - + +0 - - 4.5/11
24 1 2 18 15 30 22 9 11 28 29
21 Hamilton,Douglas Gibson 2300 -0 + -0 +1 -1 -0 +1 +1 -0 +0 4.5/10
11 7 19 28 30 2 18 16 10 9
22 Depasquale,Chris 2270 +0 -1 -0 +0 +0 -1 + - - +1 +0 4.5/11
3 27 11 26 14 28 20 29 19 24 13
23 Booth,Stewart 2280 + -0 + -0 -0 + +1 - -0 + -1 4.5/11
2 13 24 4 27 29 28 30 9 19 26
24 Fuller,Maxwell L 2285 -0 + - + +0 -1 -1 +0 - -0 + 4.5/11
20 30 23 19 18 27 9 13 14 22 28
25 Allen,Andrew 2170 -1 -0 +0 -1 +1 -0 +0 -0 +1 +0 -0 4.0/11
10 11 8 9 17 1 2 15 16 12 6
26 Levi,Eddy 2305 +0 -0 +1 -1 -0 +0 +1 +1 -0 +0 4.0/10
1 14 27 22 5 15 30 29 16 23
27 Lewinsky,Stephen -0 +0 -0 - +1 +0 -0 +1 +0 -1 3.5/10
9 22 26 29 23 24 14 28 18 30
28 Hacche,David 2255 - +0 -0 -0 + +0 -0 -0 +1 + - 3.0/11
19 10 7 21 29 22 23 27 30 20 24
29 Delion,Leonid +0 -0 -0 + - - +0 + -0 -0 + 2.5/11
8 4 30 27 28 23 11 22 26 14 20
30 Reeves,Tristan +0 - +1 -0 +0 +0 -0 + -0 +0 -0 2.0/11
18 24 29 2 21 20 26 23 28 27 19

Kevin Bonham
22-12-2011, 10:10 PM
Pretty remarkable crosstable - loses in rounds eight and nine but still wins outright. Anyone know why the four absences in round eight?

Max Illingworth
22-12-2011, 10:23 PM
Pretty remarkable crosstable - loses in rounds eight and nine but still wins outright. Anyone know why the four absences in round eight?

I guess they are missing games but I don't know.

George Xie
23-12-2011, 01:36 PM
Does anyone know when does the 1st round draw will come out?

Vlad
23-12-2011, 02:12 PM
I am guessing FIDE ratings will be used for pairings. Then the only question is what colour Yuan has in the first round.

ER
23-12-2011, 02:45 PM
Are we going to have analysis / commentary by GM Ian Rogers during the tournament?

Who's arbitering / D.O.P?

Will there be a players dispute committee?


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Still no answers to the above!

Some more:


Poor organisation and promotion. Organisers should look at the way Norths and Parra do things! Nothing festive and attractive about this one only a few days before opening round.

Again, the Victorian attitude of not giving a st ... well, neglecting the other events (Reserves - whose entrants provide the cash for prizes for both tournaments) holds well. According to the (not so) proud Victorian tradition, expect results and games of the Reserves quite some time after the actual games having taken place! (I hope I am wrong)!

mikesguns
23-12-2011, 03:38 PM
Still no answers to the above!

Some more:


Poor organisation and promotion. Organisers should look at the way Norths and Parra do things! Nothing festive and attractive about this one only a few days before opening round.

Again, the Victorian attitude of not giving a st ... well, neglecting the other events (Reserves - whose entrants provide the cash for prizes for both tournaments) holds well. According to the (not so) proud Victorian tradition, expect results and games of the Reserves quite some time after the actual games having taken place! (I hope I am wrong)!

Im not even sure if the organizers are actually posting on chess chat. Many people's questions have gone unanswered. I don't even know if I am entered yet.

ChessGuru
23-12-2011, 03:49 PM
Again, the Victorian attitude of not giving a st ... well, neglecting the other events (Reserves - whose entrants provide the cash for prizes for both tournaments) holds well. According to the (not so) proud Victorian tradition, expect results and games of the Reserves quite some time after the actual games having taken place! (I hope I am wrong)!

Tornelo offered to provide LIVE results, immediate PGN download of games, live games in some situations, game comments and of course immediate access to pairings. All the usual reporting features of any event using Tornelo.

BUT, apparently the ACF still has a policy not to use Tornelo in any form... (quick to ban, not so quick to un-ban).

Lucky the Aus Junior is no longer an ACF event... Keep an eye on the Aus Junior to see how it *should* be done.

(https://auschess.tornelo.com/tournaments/australian-championships - anyone who's going to be in Geelong and wants to keep the site updated let me know.)

Denis_Jessop
23-12-2011, 04:02 PM
Tornelo offered to provide LIVE results, immediate PGN download of games, live games in some situations, game comments and of course immediate access to pairings. All the usual reporting features of any event using Tornelo.

BUT, apparently the ACF still has a policy not to use Tornelo in any form... (quick to ban, not so quick to un-ban).

Lucky the Aus Junior is no longer an ACF event... Keep an eye on the Aus Junior to see how it *should* be done.

(https://auschess.tornelo.com/tournaments/australian-championships - anyone who's going to be in Geelong and wants to keep the site updated let me know.)

Not quite right - the Australian Junior is an ACF event but organised on its behalf by the AusJCL which is affiliated with the ACF. The point may well be that it is not uncommon for junior events run by junior associations to be better run than senior (adult) events. Otherwise why did I strongly support the formation of the AusJCL?

DJ

Lekko
23-12-2011, 04:34 PM
Mr Ben Kersten Victoria Australia
Mr John Langer Vic Australia
Mr Peter Fry Victoria Australia
Mr Elliott Renzies Victoria Australia
Mr Nigel Barrow Vic Australia
Mr Ian Rout ACT Australia
Mr Martin Jack Queensland Australia
Mr Kevin Perrin Vic Australia
Mr Geoff Barber SA Australia
Mr Johan Visser NSW Australia
Mr Harry Hoholis Victoria Australia
Mr Ari Dale Victoria Australia
Mr Finley Dale Victoria Australia
Mr Frank Lekkas VIC Australia
Mr Bill Stokie Vic Australia
Mr Shu Hon Edwin Chung SA Australia
Mr Max Chew Lee Vic Australia
Miss Alanna Chew Lee Vic Australia
Mr Colin McKenzie Vic Australia
Mr Aurel John Buciu Qld Australia
Mr Michael Sugrue VIC Australia
Mr Richard Lilly WA Australia
Mr Ian Dickson NSW Australia
Mr Marcus Raine Vic Australia
Mr Ben Ingram NSW Australia
Mr John Summerfield WA Australia
Mr Felix Wyss Vic Australia
Mr Francesco Antoniazzi Victoria Australia
Mr Matthew Radisich ACT Australia
Mr Kinto Wan NSW Australia
Mr Dennis Wan NSW Australia
Mr Bas van Riel Vic Australia
Mr Rad Chmiel Vic Australia
Mr colin savige vic Australia
Mr Omar Khaled Victoria Australia
Mr Zachary Loh Victoria Australia
Ms Mary Wilkie NSW Australia
Mr Jack Puccini Vic Australia
Mr Kyle Gibson Victoria Australia
Mr Kim Skeltys VIC Australia
Mr Matthew Bennett A.C.T. Australia
Mr Joshua Bishop ACT Australia
Mr Michael Placentino Victoria Australia
Mr Kerry Stead Victoria Australia
FM Douglas Hamilton Vic Australia
Mr Zoran Babic Vic Australia
Mr Justin Penrose VIC Australia
Mr Tony Davis Victoria Australia
Mrs Vineetha Wijesuriya Victoria Australia
Mr Thumula Gamage Victoria Australia
Miss Amelia Mendes Vic Australia
Mr Patrick Cook Victoria Australia
Mr John Beckman Victoria Australia
Mr Richard Voon Victoria Australia
Mr Samuel Dalton Vic Australia
Mr Constantin Mutu Vic Australia
Mr Glenn Ingham ACT Australia
Mr Trent Parker NSW Australia
Mr Maris Cekulis Qld Australia
Mr David Spuler Qld Australia
Mr David Beaumont Victoria Australia
Mr Alistair Anderson Victoria Australia
Miss Megan Setiabudi ACT Australia
Mr Allen Setiabudi ACT Australia
Mr Shanon Vuglar ACT Australia
Ms Ihsan Ferozkohi WA Australia
Mr Thomas Ebeyan Vic Australia
Mr John Dowling Vic Australia
Mr Mark Stokes Queensland Australia
Mr Wenlin Yin ACT Australia
Mr John Humphrey Qld Australia
Mr Joshua Bakanursky VIC Australia
Miss Leteisha Simmonds Qld Australia
Mr Nicholas Kordahi NSW Australia
Mr Rowan Willathgamuwa NSW Australia
Mr Kevin Willathgamuwa NSW Australia
Miss Charlotte Dilnutt Victoria Australia
Mr Jason Chew Victoria Australia

Can someone put this in rating order? Its the reserves.

Michael if your name isn't appearing call them on 0421 871 859.

ER
23-12-2011, 04:57 PM
Can someone put this in rating order? Its the reserves.

Michael if your name isn't appearing call them on 0421 871 859.

Not sure if the list you provided is correct! If your answer to this is "that's what appears in the official website", it only emphasises the confusion!

This is a great opportunity for Victoria to present its case as a major competitor for future major events!

Let's not waste this opportunity!


Tornelo offered to provide LIVE results, immediate PGN download of games, live games in some situations, game comments and of course immediate access to pairings. All the usual reporting features of any event using Tornelo.

BUT, apparently the ACF still has a policy not to use Tornelo in any form... (quick to ban, not so quick to un-ban).

Lucky the Aus Junior is no longer an ACF event... Keep an eye on the Aus Junior to see how it *should* be done.

I had a look. The presentation (pictures of players etc) looks impressive. I haven't yet checked correctness of ratings and other statistical information provided.

Don't forget that the Juniors' Aus Championship will be a great test for Tornelo and your abilities!


Im not even sure if the organizers are actually posting on chess chat. Many people's questions have gone unanswered. I don't even know if I am entered yet.

No reference, mention, or intention to particular forums and forum wars on my behalf. I am strictly talking about the tournament's website and the information it provides! It looks impressive, but lacks the latest info and discussion link that would contribute to creation of atmosphere and tournament fever!

This is the Australian Championship! It deserves better!

Santa
23-12-2011, 05:29 PM
Can someone put this in rating order? Its the reserves.

Michael if your name isn't appearing call them on 0421 871 859.

If you can email it to me, j20111224@js.d.au in the following format, I will do it. I've mastered Sandler's list, but I don't want to take on a new tricky format. I'd like this format:
first name, family (last name), state

Note that the commas are separators. This format is helpful because some firstnames contain spaces, and so do some last names. I don't really need the state, it's in my files. However, it might help me if there are two people with the same, or similar, names. In some cases, names people have registered with are not the names the ACF has. I've already mentioned some misspellings, but there are others such as Bill vs William, Con vs Constantin and the like.

Hopefully, I'll be able to do it tomorrow, 24th.

Lekko
23-12-2011, 05:39 PM
If you can email it to me, j20111224@js.d.au in the following format, I will do it. I've mastered Sandler's list, but I don't want to take on a new tricky format. I'd like this format:
first name, family (last name), state

Note that the commas are separators. This format is helpful because some firstnames contain spaces, and so do some last names. I don't really need the state, it's in my files. However, it might help me if there are two people with the same, or similar, names. In some cases, names people have registered with are not the names the ACF has. I've already mentioned some misspellings, but there are others such as Bill vs William, Con vs Constantin and the like.

Hopefully, I'll be able to do it tomorrow, 24th.
Apparently it's not the correct list anyway? So you don't need to trouble yourself. Should probably wait until the list becomes official.

Kevin Bonham
23-12-2011, 05:40 PM
BUT, apparently the ACF still has a policy not to use Tornelo in any form... (quick to ban, not so quick to un-ban).

Actually some of the restrictions related to Tornelo automatically expired once you complied with the conditions for lifting them. It remains disallowed as a pairing program and I suspect this will remain the case until/unless it becomes FIDE-approved in that capacity.

If you have received anything indicating the use of Tornelo for matters other than conducting tournament pairings (or, eg, encouraging players to use mobile phones to score) would not be allowed by the ACF I would be interested to see it.

ER
23-12-2011, 06:48 PM
Actually some of the restrictions related to Tornelo automatically expired once you complied with the conditions for lifting them. It remains disallowed as a pairing program and I suspect this will remain the case until/unless it becomes FIDE-approved in that capacity.
...

Doesn't leave him much does it?

Santa
23-12-2011, 07:42 PM
If you can email it to me, <snip>

Hopefully, I'll be able to do it tomorrow, 24th.

Never mind, I have the information from the club's website. A little cut & paste and it slotted nicely into an OOo spreadsheet and from there I can export as CSV and/or DBF. I have both, and will be okay now. I hope.

Denis_Jessop
23-12-2011, 08:15 PM
Doesn't leave him much does it?

Doesn't take much away either which is why it isn't accepted as a pairing program.

DJ

Kevin Bonham
23-12-2011, 08:37 PM
Doesn't leave him much does it?

Quite the contrary. There is nothing to stop him from running Tornelo for data display purposes and "live coverage" of results, and entering in the official draw manually after it is made. Indeed it appears he is seeking someone to do this.

Santa
23-12-2011, 09:15 PM
Never mind, I have the information from the club's website. A little cut & paste and it slotted nicely into an OOo spreadsheet and from there I can export as CSV and/or DBF. I have both, and will be okay now. I hope.

Or sooner.

1 6253213 Ferozkohi Ihsan 2149
2 3084420 Savige Colin B 2079
3 3115413 Dalton Samuel 2062
4 5202487 Penrose Justin 2031
5 3082655 Raine Marcus 2000
6 3075935 Hamilton Douglas G 1999
7 3096224 Beaumont David 1997
8 3138760 Dowling John 1987
9 2050690 Stead Kerry 1981
10 1675763 Yin Wenlin 1942
11 3136752 Lekkas Frank 1939
12 4141610 Spuler David 1936
13 3134346 Khaled Omar 1936
14 3085794 Sugrue Michael 1915
15 3134593 Dale Ari 1892
16 3095874 Barrow Nigel 1891
17 2050524 Kordahi Nicholas 1869
18 3093936 Hoholis Harry 1852
19 2406891 Wan Kinto 1850
20 1293546 Setiabudi Allen 1847
21 6232956 Lilly Richard 1847
22 3129660 Loh Zachary 1846
23 2019272 Ingram Ben W 1846
24 3032292 Voon Richard 1842
25 3070265 Anderson Alistair 1840
26 3088093 Wyss Felix 1822
27 1272020 Rout Ian C 1809
28 3073264 Davis Tony J 1807
29 3074911 Fry Peter 1802
30 2412165 Wan Dennis 1762
31 1663804 Bishop Joshua 1758
32 1666000 Bennett Matthew 1746
33 2422990 Visser Johan 1740
34 3107863 Chmiel Rad 1736
35 3136111 Wijesuriya Vineetha 1716
36 4138950 Skeltys Kim 1709
37 3134700 Chew Lee Max 1703
38 3122423 Gibson Kyle 1675
39 3080485 McKenzie Colin D 1674
40 3117384 Antoniazzi Francesco 1656
41 3103851 Babic Zoran 1654
42 4158005 Buciu Aurel-John 1637
43 4208726 Jack Martin 1633
44 3086726 Van Riel Bas 1626
45 2068441 Parker Trent 1622
46 3072682 Cook Patrick 1608
47 3085713 Stokie William 1605
48 4535574 Simmonds Leteisha 1599
49 3105483 Bakanursky Josh 1596
50 4139300 Stokes Mark C 1581
51 3070932 Beckman John 1569
52 3082740 Perrin Kevin J 1557
53 1293535 Setiabudi Megan 1552
54 3096913 Placentino Michael 1545
55 2015116 Dickson Ian C 1542
56 5203972 Vuglar Shanon 1537
57 3102480 Kersten Ben 1536
58 4160080 Barber Geoffrey 1535
59 1674072 Ingham Glenn 1520
60 3135982 Puccini Jack 1480
61 5213295 Chung Edwin Shu Hon 1458
62 1675494 Radisich Matt 1402
63 2032922 Wilkie Mary E 1395
64 3118316 Renzies Elliott 1387
65 2419501 Willathgamuwa Kevin 1369
66 6094430 Summerfield John 1368
67 2419534 Willathgamuwa Rowan 1364
68 3136310 Dale Finley 1306
69 3098711 Langer John 1281
70 4200153 Humphrey John 1277
71 3101732 Mutu Con 1274
72 3138642 Chew Jason 1162
73 3136074 Gamage Thumula 1154
74 3133495 Dilnutt Charlotte 1031
75 3136925 Chew Lee Alanna 979
76 3138653 Ebeyan Thomas 877
77 2422043 Mendes Amelia 157
78 9000000 Cekulis Maris 0


These are from the Geelong CC website. The ratings are official ACF, except for Maris at the end. Maris does not exist in the published ACF files, so I've made an entry in my file and, lacking information to the contrary, assumed unrated. The tournament organisers can make their own assessment and assign some othe rating, stuffing up these rankings and anyone's assumed pairings.

The second column is the ACF ID.

Kevin Bonham
23-12-2011, 09:25 PM
I wouldn't recommend anyone assume too much about pairings for round 1 in either event - past history indicates there are often late entries and withdrawals. In the 2001-2 Champs I was expecting to be drawn to play a specific opponent and spent a fair bit of time preparing something based on some of his previous games, then never actually got to use it.

Lekko
23-12-2011, 11:34 PM
The 2149 is actually playing in the reserves? Wow...

Santa
24-12-2011, 06:47 AM
The 2149 is actually playing in the reserves? Wow...

Apparently he's an untitled alien and so ineligible for the championship.

Santa
24-12-2011, 06:52 AM
I wouldn't recommend anyone assume too much about pairings for round 1 in either event - past history indicates there are often late entries and withdrawals. In the 2001-2 Champs I was expecting to be drawn to play a specific opponent and spent a fair bit of time preparing something based on some of his previous games, then never actually got to use it.

Two little somethings, I'd hope!

antichrist
24-12-2011, 11:43 AM
65 2419501 Willathgamuwa Kevin 1369

67 2419534 Willathgamuwa Rowan 1364

How come the two wonder boys have such low ratings? Struth I should get a win over them before it is too late.

Kevin Bonham
24-12-2011, 06:52 PM
Apparently he's an untitled alien and so ineligible for the championship.

The exact situation is that he is at this stage neither a citizen nor a permanent resident (although he may be in the future) and therefore he would need to be stronger to be considered for the Championship as he cannot be picked under the equivalent proficiency rules. This might have been covered had the State Association of the state he is in endorsed him but to this stage they have not (he isn't a member).

FIDE titles are irrelevant to entry to the tournament.


Struth I should get a win over them before it is too late.

It is later than you think.

ER
24-12-2011, 07:19 PM
Take bus no. 30 from Geelong Station. I am not sure about North Geelong though!

Ask the no. 30 driver to let you off at the Sphinx, they all know where it is and the bus stops right outside the venue!

OK last call from me before I go back into festive mood!

For all of you who will use public transport (V-line trains) to get to the venue!

Holiday periods are very busy. You might get there (Southern Cross Station) 5-10 minutes before the train departs thinking that you 'll have plenty of time to buy a ticked and get a seat!

WRONG!!!

Chances are you 'll find a line of 25-30 people queueing before you at the ticket selling counter.

SO

Be there early (at least half hour before the train departs). That will give you sufficient time to buy a ticket and find a seat!

ALSO

If you buy a weekly ticket (suggested) make sure you don't buy another ticket for the local bus (from the station to the venue). Your v-line ticket covers it! I don't know if same thing occurs for daily return tickets.

Merry and Happy!

Trent Parker
25-12-2011, 07:27 AM
Or pre book melbourne to geelong like I have! but i'm staying in geelong for the most part

Max Illingworth
25-12-2011, 04:12 PM
Are any of the following players playing?

Li Chao
Dejan Bojkov
Andrew Brown
Bill Jordan

The Bennett
25-12-2011, 04:15 PM
Are any of the following players playing?

Li Chao
Dejan Bojkov
Andrew Brown
Bill Jordan

I know that Andrew isn't playing

antichrist
25-12-2011, 04:18 PM
Are any of the following players playing?

Li Chao
Dejan Bojkov
Andrew Brown
Bill Jordan

Firegoat on Dark Side is spitting chips over Bill Jordan just cruising in days after close off and just days before commencement - so he must be in

that Caesar guy
25-12-2011, 04:52 PM
I know that Andrew isn't playing
Then why's he listed as entered on the website? And I thought Li Chao wasn't playing anymore o_0

Kevin Bonham
25-12-2011, 05:36 PM
Are any of the following players playing?

Li Chao
Dejan Bojkov
Andrew Brown
Bill Jordan

My understanding is that the answers are no, no, no, yes, although in the first three cases this is just based on accompanying comments that they had said they were unlikely to play and/or Leonid's omission of them from entry lists even after we approved them. The website is just listing everyone who has entered without removing those who seem to have withdrawn.

Also note the additions of late entries Chew, Hogg, Addamo, Kara to the Reserves. The organisers wanted to admit late entries and we've advised them they can do so at their discretion. Note that in Jordan's case he had to pass selection and if we had not been able to reach a decision in time he would only been able to play in the Reserves.

that Caesar guy
25-12-2011, 05:40 PM
My understanding is that the answers are no, no, no, yes, although in the first three cases this is just based on accompanying comments that they had said they were unlikely to play and/or Leonid's omission of them from entry lists even after we approved them. The website is just listing everyone who has entered without removing those who seem to have withdrawn.

Also note the additions of late entries Chew, Hogg, Addamo, Kara to the Reserves. The organisers wanted to admit late entries and we've advised them they can do so at their discretion. Note that in Jordan's case he had to pass selection and if we had not been able to reach a decision in time he would only been able to play in the Reserves.
Addamo has said he'd entered a long, long time ago, so the fact he's only "just" made the cut off is a bit harsh