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Grant Szuveges
14-03-2011, 08:54 PM
MELBOURNE CHESS CLUB
ANZAC DAY WEEKENDER

A FIDE rated event, over the Easter Weekend.

Guaranteed Prize Money!
$500 First prize!

When: Friday April 22nd to Monday April 25th.

Where: Melbourne Chess Club, 66 Leicester St. Fitzroy.

Format: 7 round Swiss.

Timetable: Round 1: Friday April 22, 2pm
Round 2: Friday April 22, 7pm
Round 3: Saturday April 23, 2pm
Round 4: Saturday April 23, 7pm
Round 5: Sunday April 24, 2pm
Round 6: Sunday April 24, 7pm
Round 7: Monday April 25, 2pm

Time controls: 90 min + 30 seconds per move.

Grand Prix: Catagory 2

Prizes: The following prizes are guaranteed:
1st, $500
2nd, $300
3rd, $200
Rating prizes, to be confirmed


Rating: The event will be FIDE and ACF rated.

Arbiter: To be confirmed

Pairings: Pairings will be done with Swissperfect

Parking: For advice on parking, please contact Grant Szuveges 0401-925-075.

Entry Fees: $65 full and $55 concession ($10 discount for MCC members)

Enquires: For any questions, please contact Grant Szuveges on 0401-925-075 or via email: grantszuveges@gmail.com

NRMASIFD&GKFKBBK
14-03-2011, 09:39 PM
I find the scheduling for this slightly strange - what was the reasoning behind having two games on Friday and only one on the public holiday Monday?

Might not the the fact that the tournament start on Friday afternoon mean that some working people might be deter from entering?

Grant Szuveges
14-03-2011, 11:09 PM
I find the scheduling for this slightly strange - what was the reasoning behind having two games on Friday and only one on the public holiday Monday?

Might not the the fact that the tournament start on Friday afternoon mean that some working people might be deter from entering?

The reason for this is that the Friday is Good Friday, when virtually everyone has the day off and virtually everything (except Melbourne Chess Club) is shut anyway.

Carl Gorka
15-03-2011, 07:53 PM
If I'm not in Doeberl, there's a good chance I'll play :)

Paul Cavezza
15-03-2011, 07:59 PM
I'll play, looking forward to it!

NRMASIFD&GKFKBBK
15-03-2011, 09:17 PM
The reason for this is that the Friday is Good Friday, when virtually everyone has the day off and virtually everything (except Melbourne Chess Club) is shut anyway.

OK, thanks. Didn't have a calendar on me at the time, so didn't know that it was also the Easter weekend (a very late one this year).

MichaelBaron
16-03-2011, 12:28 AM
Very nice schedule - no games starting before 2 pm. I am not sure if I will have time to play but if I do - I may play!

ER
16-03-2011, 12:45 AM
Very nice schedule - no games starting before 2 pm. I am not sure if I will have time to play but if I do - I may play!

You want to see if Brian Jones is playing before you enter? I wouldn't blame you if you do! He is in a very good form!

Grant Szuveges
16-03-2011, 12:46 AM
If I'm not in Doeberl, there's a good chance I'll play :)

This tournament will be a good alternative for Victorian players who cant afford to go to Doeberl or who dont want to travel or cant make it up there for whatever reason. And as Michael said, the schedule is a pretty easy one. It allows people to have the mornings off so that they can go to church for Easter or sleep in after partying all night.

MichaelBaron
16-03-2011, 10:17 AM
You want to see if Brian Jones is playing before you enter? I wouldn't blame you if you do! He is in a very good form!
I want to see as many entries as possible! If I have time I will play! Weekender with a 2 pm start at MY Club - is a very tempting option!

antichrist
16-03-2011, 10:33 AM
This tournament will be a good alternative for Victorian players who cant afford to go to Doeberl or who dont want to travel or cant make it up there for whatever reason. And as Michael said, the schedule is a pretty easy one. It allows people to have the mornings off so that they can go to church for Easter or sleep in after partying all night.

Grant congrats, and fancy making it a FIDE rated event as well. They had the crucifying squad out for me when I broke new ground ten years ago with Sydney Easter Cup supposedly clashing with Doeberl. But heck, we should have an easier alternative than 5 days of chess and away from home and family. But I wish Doeberl becomes bigger and greater and more players to fill both comps.

Grant Szuveges
16-03-2011, 11:24 AM
Grant congrats, and fancy making it a FIDE rated event as well. They had the crucifying squad out for me when I broke new ground ten years ago with Sydney Easter Cup supposedly clashing with Doeberl. But heck, we should have an easier alternative than 5 days of chess and away from home and family. But I wish Doeberl becomes bigger and greater and more players to fill both comps.

We actually considered skipping this event this year, but decided that it should go ahead as it is actually the ANZAC Day weekender which just happens to fall over the Easter weekend - not the Easter Weekender which happens to fall on ANZAC Day.

This event has been growing rapidly in the last few years (25 players in 2009 and 45 in 2010), so we want it to turn into one of Australias big weekend events. Smerdon has been down the past 2 years (though I think he would play at Doeberl this year). So it is important to keep growing the brand name of the event. Even if it is a bit smaller this year, its important for us to keep it running.

The clash with Doeberl is annoying, but unavoidable. Hopefully both tournaments are absolutely huge! Having 2 weekenders to choose from is a very nice problem to have if you are a keen chess player!

Brian_Jones
16-03-2011, 12:21 PM
You want to see if Brian Jones is playing before you enter? I wouldn't blame you if you do! He is in a very good form!

Sorry JAK (and Grant) I would love to have played at MCC but will be playing for the SYDNEY team in the Asian Cities in Jakarta over Easter and Anzac Day. ;)

Maybe Michael Baron can nominate you (JAK) as his medevil knight to challenge me in the Oceania Seniors in Box Hill in August? ;)

MichaelBaron
16-03-2011, 01:23 PM
Sorry JAK (and Grant) I would love to have played at MCC but will be playing for the SYDNEY team in the Asian Cities in Jakarta over Easter and Anzac Day. ;)

Maybe Michael Baron can nominate you (JAK) as his medevil knight to challenge me in the Oceania Seniors in Box Hill in August? ;)
Do not worry, Brian - Rujevic and Hamilton will be there....so you will get a chance to show where you stand when it comes to playing against the REAL title-holders ;)

Garrett
16-03-2011, 05:34 PM
Do not worry, Brian - Rujevic and Hamilton will be there....so you will get a chance to show where you stand when it comes to playing against the REAL title-holders ;)

What REAL title does Rujevic have ?

Bereaved
16-03-2011, 07:25 PM
What REAL title does Rujevic have ?

Hi Garrett,

I believe that Mirko Rujevic was an FM for many years before he got his Zonal IM title.....if that is what you are meaning....

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

MichaelBaron
16-03-2011, 09:32 PM
For all that I know Rujevic and Hamilton play chess like masters...and thats what makes them masters :)

Garrett
17-03-2011, 08:21 AM
Hi Garrett,

I believe that Mirko Rujevic was an FM for many years before he got his Zonal IM title.....if that is what you are meaning....

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Hi Mac

Thanks for the reply.

I was replying to Michael and more looking for what he meant by REAL titles (presumably more REAL than any title held by Jones).

Sounds like it could be based on his judgement and opinion.

cheers Garrett.

ER
17-03-2011, 09:34 AM
Hi Mac

Thanks for the reply.

I was replying to Michael and more looking for what he meant by REAL titles (presumably more REAL than any title held by Jones).

Sounds like it could be based on his judgement and opinion.

cheers Garrett.


Hi Garrett

It's all about an old vendetta b/n Michael and Brian re FIDE titles!:lol:
They both never miss an opportunity of having a dig at eachother when an opportunity arises.:rolleyes:
I believe that a 4 game match could decide the issue once and for all!

antichrist
17-03-2011, 09:47 AM
The absurdity of Michael's usually sound argument in this instance is that because FIDE titles are for life, a player who just used to be 2300+ (which Rujevic still is) is not necessarily any more "FM strength" than someone who got their title from a Zonal.



Only if a time warp was employed to equalise the ages of the competitors before it started.

But the time warp would not take into account new variations known etc, Mike would still be ahead.

MichaelBaron
17-03-2011, 02:27 PM
Hi Garrett

It's all about an old vendetta b/n Michael and Brian re FIDE titles!:lol:
They both never miss an opportunity of having a dig at eachother when an opportunity arises.:rolleyes:
I believe that a 4 game match could decide the issue once and for all!

4 game match? Any time :)

Btw, Rujevic is 65 yo and his fide is 2318!!!
Brian never ever had a fide rating above 2300 and his current rating is under 2100 so its based not only on my opinion but also on the ratings :)
Hamilton is many times Australian Champion so his credentials are also beyond any doubt.

ER
17-03-2011, 02:48 PM
4 game match? Any time :)
.... Brian never ever had a fide rating above 2300 and his current rating is under 2100 so its based not only on my opinion but also on the ratings :)
...
but you keep on neglecting to note that he played brilliantly in Begonia! Are you finally playing in this one? :)

MichaelBaron
17-03-2011, 03:15 PM
but you keep on neglecting to note that he played brilliantly in Begonia! Are you finally playing in this one? :)

I do not neglect it, congratulations to Brian on playing so well! :clap:

If he keeps playing that well and gets to 2300 I will only be happy for him!

Grant Szuveges
31-03-2011, 03:55 AM
Dont forget about this tournament people - remember there is guaranteed prize money! Hopefully we get a few people who have decided to stay in Melbourne over Easter...

Grant Szuveges
31-03-2011, 03:59 AM
At this stage we only have 2 entries on the list:

Gary BEKKER
Paul CAVEZZA

So, its looking like one of them will win the $500 for the first prize in their 7 game match...

Ninja
31-03-2011, 11:47 PM
At this stage we only have 2 entries on the list:

So, its looking like one of them will win the $500 for the first prize in their 7 game match...

So whats third prize ??

Lekko
01-04-2011, 12:59 AM
I imagine it will be a small tournament since most players will be in Doberl :\ Shame. I'm still unsure on whether I'll be playing Grant.

Paul Cavezza
01-04-2011, 12:30 PM
A lot of the strong players are away at Doeberl but while the cats are away the mice will play-- and play I shall! V Gary Bekker for 500 bucks;) Seeya there gary!:)

Lekko
01-04-2011, 09:11 PM
I look forward to watching the match live via dgt (in the case I can't attend.

Grant Szuveges
01-04-2011, 10:07 PM
3 entries now:

Gary BEKKER
Paul CAVEZZA
Max CHEW LEE

Get your entries in soon people!

MichaelBaron
01-04-2011, 10:39 PM
3 entries now:

Gary BEKKER
Paul CAVEZZA
Max CHEW LEE

Get your entries in soon people!
Threesome.....great! significant increase from 2. 50% growth :)

Grant Szuveges
02-04-2011, 03:20 PM
Finally, we have a big name player confirmed, with Chris Kolak entering!

List of entries: 4

Gary BEKKER
Paul CAVEZZA
Max CHEW LEE
Chris KOLAK

List of maybes: 6

David BEAUMONT]
Tanya KOLAK
Frank LEKKAS
Kerry STEAD
Tony TOSEVSKI
Deniz TUNCER

MichaelBaron
03-04-2011, 01:10 PM
You can add me to the maybe's list

Carl Gorka
03-04-2011, 04:18 PM
And I am over 90% for this tournament :)

Paul Cavezza
04-04-2011, 02:46 PM
KOLAK, Chris 2059
BEKKER, Gary 1808
CAVEZZA, Paul 1668
CHEW LEE, Max 1528

Maybe's:
BARON, Michael (FM) 2334
GORKA, Carl 2177
STEAD, Kerry 2074
BEAUMONT, David 2050
LEKKAS, Frank 1937
TUNCER, Deniz 1731
Kolak, Tanya -
TOSEVSKI, Tony -

jhughes
11-04-2011, 01:44 PM
Count me in!

Grant Szuveges
12-04-2011, 10:43 PM
List of entries: 5

Gary BEKKER
Paul CAVEZZA
Max CHEW LEE
Jack HUGHES
Chris KOLAK

List of maybes: 6

David BEAUMONT]
Tanya KOLAK
Frank LEKKAS
Kerry STEAD
Tony TOSEVSKI
Deniz TUNCER

Grant Szuveges
15-04-2011, 07:54 PM
Sam Gluzman and Jimmy Ying have now entered, bringing the field to7 so far.

List of entries: 7

Gary BEKKER
Paul CAVEZZA
Max CHEW LEE
Sam GLUZMAN
Jack HUGHES
Chris KOLAK
Jimmy YING

List of maybes: 7

David BEAUMONT
Carl GORKA
Tanya KOLAK
Frank LEKKAS
Kerry STEAD
Tony TOSEVSKI
Deniz TUNCER

MichaelBaron
15-04-2011, 08:15 PM
Sam Gluzman and Jimmy Ying have now entered, bringing the field to7 so far.

List of entries: 7

Gary BEKKER
Paul CAVEZZA
Max CHEW LEE
Sam GLUZMAN
Jack HUGHES
Chris KOLAK
Jimmy YING

List of maybes: 7

David BEAUMONT
Carl GORKA
Tanya KOLAK
Frank LEKKAS
Kerry STEAD
Tony TOSEVSKI
Deniz TUNCER

Get Sam's Dad to play too :)
and Btw, Why am I off the list of May be's....Now i am 70% certain I will play (bit lower than Carl's 90% but still) :)

Carl Gorka
15-04-2011, 08:29 PM
Get Sam's Dad to play too :)
and Btw, Why am I off the list of May be's....Now i am 70% certain I will play (bit lower than Carl's 90% but still) :)

I'm getting less certain....I reckon I'm at 25% now

MichaelBaron
16-04-2011, 10:40 PM
Goran and Nick Ilic are also likely to play!

MichaelBaron
18-04-2011, 08:04 AM
Ok, I am in!

Chigoresov
18-04-2011, 05:50 PM
Tony Davis tells me he is a 66.6% chance of playing.:confused:

MichaelBaron
18-04-2011, 06:29 PM
Tony Davis tells me he is a 66.6% chance of playing.:confused:
Please tell Tony to bring along his Altona clubmates Peter Wolf, Jake Kostrewa, Dean Hogg etc!

Carl Gorka
18-04-2011, 07:04 PM
I will now definitely not be playing :(

For those playing this event, enjoy :)

Grant Szuveges
18-04-2011, 09:20 PM
List of entries: 8

Michael BARON (FM)
Gary BEKKER
Paul CAVEZZA
Max CHEW LEE
Sam GLUZMAN
Jack HUGHES
Chris KOLAK
Jimmy YING

List of maybes: 7

David BEAUMONT
Tony DAVIS
Tanya KOLAK
Frank LEKKAS
Kerry STEAD
Tony TOSEVSKI
Deniz TUNCER

Grant Szuveges
20-04-2011, 07:04 PM
We have another big name in, with FM Doug Hamilton confirming his entry a few minutes ago! While small, this tournament is lookly like becoming very strong!

List of entries: 10

Michael BARON (FM)
Gary BEKKER
Paul CAVEZZA
Max CHEW LEE
Sam COTTON
Sam GLUZMAN
Douglas HAMILTON (FM)
Jack HUGHES
Chris KOLAK
Jimmy YING

List of maybes: 6

Tony DAVIS
Tanya KOLAK
Frank LEKKAS
Kerry STEAD
Tony TOSEVSKI
Deniz TUNCER

Paul Cavezza
20-04-2011, 07:31 PM
Great news!!!! Now just to secure a game against him!

MichaelBaron
20-04-2011, 07:59 PM
Great, the tourney is getting stronger! D. Hamilton is 3 times Aus champion!!!:clap:

Kerry Stead
22-04-2011, 12:41 PM
Add me to the list of entries ... heading to MCC shortly.

MichaelBaron
22-04-2011, 02:42 PM
Anzac Day Weekender has commenced just now. We got a solid field of 15 players. The top seeds are: Baron, Hamilton, Dowling and Stead.

I was lucky to win my round 1 game in 10 moves.

Ashlock- Baron
1.e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5 6. Nxc6 bxc6 7. Bc4 Bb4 8. f3 d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Bd2?? Qh4+ 0-1

Lekko
22-04-2011, 06:24 PM
Anzac Day Weekender has commenced just now. We got a solid field of 15 players. The top seeds are: Baron, Hamilton, Dowling and Stead.

I was lucky to win my round 1 game in 10 moves.

Ashlock- Baron
1.e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5 6. Nxc6 bxc6 7. Bc4 Bb4 8. f3 d5 9. exd5 Nxd5 10. Bd2?? Qh4+ 0-1
Ouch. Good ol' Pelikan.

MichaelBaron
22-04-2011, 11:45 PM
Waiting for the round 3 draw to come online :)...

Grant Szuveges
23-04-2011, 12:35 AM
ROUND 3

1. Hamilton vs Baron
2. Stead vs Dowling
3. Davis vs Bekker
4. Hain vs Gibson
5. Cotton vs Ashlock
6. Chew-Lee vs Ying
7. Cavezza vs Gluzman
Hughes - BYE

jhughes
23-04-2011, 08:57 AM
ROUND 3

1. Hamilton vs Baron
2. Stead vs Dowling
3. Davis vs Bekker
4. Hain vs Gibson
5. Cotton vs Ashlock
6. Chew-Lee vs Ying
7. Cavezza vs Gluzman
Hughes - BYE
Really? Because I'm taking half-point byes in rounds 4 and 5.

jhughes
23-04-2011, 11:00 AM
Really? Because I'm taking half-point byes in rounds 4 and 5.
Nevermind, because I've been allowed to play the 4th round!

MichaelBaron
23-04-2011, 11:02 AM
Nevermind, because I've been allowed to play the 4th round!

Jack, you are a big boy - I think you should be ''allowed'' a lot of things by now :)

Lekko
23-04-2011, 11:48 AM
Jack, you are a big boy - I think you should be ''allowed'' a lot of things by now :)
Don't say that, the last thing his parents want is a rebelling chess player. There will be chess pieces everywhere...

Paul Cavezza
23-04-2011, 12:04 PM
On the list of "last things a parent wants"... "rebellious chess player" can't be a huge concern!

Lekko
23-04-2011, 12:21 PM
On the list of "last things a parent wants"... "rebellious chess player" can't be a huge concern!
The worst type of rebellion Paul.

jhughes
23-04-2011, 12:35 PM
The worst type of rebellion Paul.
Yes, I would have a hole army on my side. Though I can't imagine an army of plastic figurines would be too strong ;)

ER
23-04-2011, 01:58 PM
Yes, I would have a (w)hole army on my side. Though I can't imagine an army of plastic figurines would be too strong ;)
Try the board, it's more effective! Ask Kasparov! ;)
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Grant Szuveges
24-04-2011, 01:14 AM
ROUND 5

1. Dowling vs Baron
2. Hamilton vs Stead
3. Ying vs Davis
4. Hain vs Bekker
5. Gluzman vs Ashlock
BYES: Gibson, Chew-Lee, Hughes

MichaelBaron
24-04-2011, 01:21 AM
ROUND 5

1. Dowling vs Baron
2. Hamilton vs Stead
3. Ying vs Davis
4. Hain vs Bekker
5. Gluzman vs Ashlock
BYES: Gibson, Chew-Lee, Hughes

Where is Cavezza?

Grant Szuveges
24-04-2011, 01:26 AM
Where is Cavezza?

Cotton vs Cavezza (I shoudve cut and pasted it)

lost
24-04-2011, 01:56 PM
Can we get some results and standings please.

lost

MichaelBaron
24-04-2011, 11:43 PM
The board 2 and 3 games were still going when I left. If we assume that both Hamilton and Davis won (based on the positions on the board at the time :)).
Then The leading scores are: Baron 6/6 2-3 Hamilton, Davis 4 a large group on 3.5/6 - Stead, Cavezza, Bekker. Dowling etc. are on 3

Grant Szuveges
24-04-2011, 11:54 PM
The board 2 and 3 games were still going when I left. If we assume that both Hamilton and Davis won (based on the positions on the board at the time :)).
Then The leading scores are: Baron 6/6 2-3 Hamilton, Davis 4 a large group on 3.5/6 - Stead, Cavezza, Bekker. Dowling etc. are on 3

Hamilton actually lost to Dowling

The ladder is as follows:

6 Baron
4 Davis
4 Dowling
3.5 Stead
3.5 Cavezza
3.5 Bekker
3 Hamilton
3 Ying
3 Gibson
2.5 Hain
2.5 Chew Lee
2 Hughes
2 Cotton
2 Gluzman
1.5 Ashlock (withdrawn)

Grant Szuveges
25-04-2011, 12:23 AM
ROUND 7

1. Cavezza (3.5) vs Baron (6)
2. Davis (4) vs Dowling (4)
3. Bekker (3.5) vs Stead (3.5)
4. Cotton (2) vs Hamilton (3)
5. Gibson (3) vs Gluzman (2)
6. Hughes (2) vs Ying (3)
7. Hain (2.5) vs Chew Lee (2.5)

Some strange looking pairings here (not that Ive bothered to look at them closely), but being on 2/6 and having to play Doug Hamilton is either pretty stiff or a great opportunity - depending which way you look at it... Do we still like the Dutch pairings rules???

Kevin Bonham
25-04-2011, 12:35 AM
Do we still like the Dutch pairings rules???

Before finding out if it's about the Dutch pairings rules you need to know if the draw is actually correct or not.

Without seeing the full previous pairings it's not possible to say. It looks odd that it downfloats all the 3-pointers a full point while pairing the two 2.5 pointers but at the end of a Swiss with a small number of players for the number of rounds sometimes this kind of thing is forced because most possible combinations have already played each other.

Also bear in mind that the system pairs according to score on the weekend in question first and foremost. It doesn't "know" that Hamilton is a former Australian champion, an FM and a living legend. As far as it is concerned he is merely the highest ranked of the three players tied for seventh on 3/6.

Grant Szuveges
25-04-2011, 12:36 AM
Im not going to change the draw - even though it looks completely ridiculous in the bottom half, as I think it is better to keep consistency rather than alter things at the final hurdle. But if I was doing the draw I wouldve done it as follows:

4. Ying (3) vs Hamilton (3)
5. Gibson (3) vs Chew Lee (2.5)
6. Hain (2.5) vs Cotton (2)
7. Hughes (2) vs Gluzman (2)

To me this looks a hell of a lot more logical than

4. Cotton (2) vs Hamilton (3)
5. Gibson (3) vs Gluzman (2)
6. Hughes (2) vs Ying (3)
7. Hain (2.5) vs Chew Lee (2.5)

And before you ask, yes Ive checked the colours and they are fine... To the inventor of the Dutch pairings rules - PLEASE EXPLAIN

Grant Szuveges
25-04-2011, 12:40 AM
Before finding out if it's about the Dutch pairings rules you need to know if the draw is actually correct or not.

Without seeing the full previous pairings it's not possible to say. It looks odd that it downfloats all the 3-pointers a full point while pairing the two 2.5 pointers but at the end of a Swiss with a small number of players for the number of rounds sometimes this kind of thing is forced because most possible combinations have already played each other.

Also bear in mind that the system pairs according to score on the weekend in question first and foremost. It doesn't "know" that Hamilton is a former Australian champion, an FM and a living legend. As far as it is concerned he is merely the highest ranked of the three players tied for seventh on 3/6.

At least in the way I have suggested, the players will be playing people on the same scores as them!

Kevin Bonham
25-04-2011, 12:47 AM
And before you ask, yes Ive checked the colours and they are fine... To the inventor of the Dutch pairings rules - PLEASE EXPLAIN

If you are using SP and the alternative pairing you give is valid under B1 and B2 then I would bet it is not the Dutch pairing rules that are the problem but SP's (mis)interpretation of them. It is notorious for excessive downfloating in the final round, although I've probably never seen it get it wrong that badly. There is no way it should downfloat three players a whole point each if there is a valid alternative in which it can downfloat two players half a point.

Grant Szuveges
25-04-2011, 12:50 AM
If you are using SP and the alternative pairing you give is valid under B1 and B2 then I would bet it is not the Dutch pairing rules that are the problem but SP's (mis)interpretation of them. It is notorious for excessive downfloating in the final round, although I've probably never seen it get it wrong that badly. There is no way it should downfloat three players a whole point each if there is a valid alternative in which it can downfloat two players half a point.

Since these are blatantly wrong pairings, would you change them? If so, I will change them.

Kevin Bonham
25-04-2011, 12:51 AM
Since these are blatantly wrong pairings, would you change them? If so, I will change them.

I can't say until I see the rounds that I am missing. If you post rounds 1, 2, 4 and 6 I will check as fast as I can!

Kevin Bonham
25-04-2011, 12:54 AM
That said if I was sure the alternative pairing you gave was valid under B1 and B2 then I would override.

B1 and B2 being:


B.1
Two players shall not meet more than once.
A player who has received a point without playing, either through a bye or due to an opponent not appearing in time, shall not receive a bye.
B.2
No player's colour difference will become >+2 or <-2.
No player will receive the same colour three times in row.

B2 does apply as the players are on < = 50%.

If it checks out re B1 and B2 then the SP pairing trashes B3 to high heaven and must be wrong.

Grant Szuveges
25-04-2011, 01:03 AM
I can't say until I see the rounds that I am missing. If you post rounds 1, 2, 4 and 6 I will check as fast as I can!

Hi Kevin, here they are (with abbreviations)

ROUND 1

1. Ashlock 0-1 Baron
2. Hamilton 1-0 Gibson
3. ChewLee = Dowling
4. Stead 1-0 Gluzman
5. Hughes 0-1 Davis
6. Cavezza 0-1 Ying
7. Cotton 0-1 Bekker
Hain (half point bye - seeded 6th)

ROUND 2

1. Bar 1-0 Dav
2. Bek 0-1 Ham
3. Yin 0-1 Ste
4. Dow 1-0 Cav
5. Ash 1-0 CL
6. Gib 1-0 Hug
7. Glu 0-1 Cot
Hain (half point bye)

ROUND 4

1. Bar 1-0 Ste
2. Dav 0-1 Ham
3. Dow 1-0 Cot
4. Gib = Yin
5. Hug = Cav
6. Bek 1-0 CL
7. Glu 0-1 Hai
Ash (half point bye)

ROUND 6

1. Bar 1-0 Gib
2. Ste 0-1 Dav
3. Ham 0-1 Dow
4. Cav 1-0 Hai
5. Ash 0-1 Bek
6. Yin 1-0 Cot
7. CL 1-0 Hug
Glu (full point bye)

Grant Szuveges
25-04-2011, 01:12 AM
That said if I was sure the alternative pairing you gave was valid under B1 and B2 then I would override.

B1 and B2 being:



B2 does apply as the players are on < = 50%.

If it checks out re B1 and B2 then the SP pairing trashes B3 to high heaven and must be wrong.

The only issue with my alternative, is that Ying would get 3 whites in a row - but that said, he had 3 blacks in his first 4 games so he would have BWBBWWW - its 4 and 3, not 5 and 2. Its 3 whites - its not like its 3 blacks in a row. It also seems to fix up the draw for the whole competition. Every other players colours are fine.

Grant Szuveges
25-04-2011, 01:14 AM
It totally checks out with B1 and covers one of the two requirements with B2 (is this sounding like Bananas in Pyjamas here?)

Kevin Bonham
25-04-2011, 01:16 AM
The only issue with my alternative, is that Ying would get 3 whites in a row - but that said, he had 3 blacks in his first 4 games so he would have BWBBWWW - its 4 and 3, not 5 and 2.

Ah, that explains it then. 3 whites in a row is illegal under B2b, which does apply as Ying is not on more than 50%.

I will still keep checking though (though I won't stay up too long doing so, maybe til about 2).

Grant Szuveges
25-04-2011, 01:45 AM
1 1 : 9,5,2,4,3,10 BWBWBW D 6

2-3 3 : 11,7,4,15,1,2 BWBWWB u 4
5 : 13,1,8,2,14,4 BBWWBB U 4

4-6 4 : 12,14,3,1,2,5 WBWBBW uD 3.5
7 : 14,3,12,13,15,6 WBWBBW u 3.5
8 : 15,2,5,11,6,9 BWBWBB D 3.5

7-9 2 : 10,8,1,5,4,3 WBWBWW d 3
10 : 2,13,6,14,-,1 BWBW-B Ud 3
14 : 7,4,11,10,5,15 BWBBWW 3

10-11 6 : -,-,10,12,8,7 --WBWB 2.5
11 : 3,9,14,8,-,13 WBWB-W Ud 2.5

12-14 12 : 4,15,7,6,9,- BWBWW- uD 2
13 : 5,10,-,7,-,11 WB-W-B D 2
15 : 8,12,9,3,7,14 WBWBWB d 2

Grant Szuveges
25-04-2011, 02:02 AM
The following works perfectly well and does not violate B1 or B2 at all. It isnt as logical as my first idea, but it is still better than the rubbish swissperfect came up with:

Gibson (3) vs Chew Lee (2.5)
Hain (2.5) vs Ying (3)
Cotton (2) vs Hamilton (3)
Hughes (2) vs Gluzman (2)

Kevin Bonham
25-04-2011, 02:17 AM
^^^
To the extent that I'm awake I'm seconding that the above is better than SP's.

It is unavoidable to downfloat all the 3-pointers but it should be possible to pair two with the 2.5 group and only chuck one 3-pointer down to the 2 group. That is clearly better than downfloating the whole 3 group to the 2 group.

Grant Szuveges
25-04-2011, 02:28 AM
After discussions between myself, Kevin Bonham and Bill Gletzos (both experienced arbiters), I have decided to change the pairings. The pairings that myself, Kevin and Bill all came up with (separately/independently) are indeed all more correct (and logical) than the ones Swiss Perfect came up with. Here are the new pairings:

1. Cavezza (3.5) vs Baron (6)
2. Davis (4) vs Dowling (4)
3. Bekker (3.5) vs Stead (3.5)
4. Gibson (3) vs Chew Lee (2.5)
5. Hain (2.5) vs Ying (3)
6. Cotton (2) vs Hamilton (3)
7. Hughes (2) vs Gluzman (2)

Apologies to any incovenience caused to the players involved.

MichaelBaron
25-04-2011, 10:02 AM
While the field appears to be fairly ''soft'' at first sight - there are a lot of good players. It is not often that you can see 3-times Australian champion playing on the second last board in a weekender!

Kevin Bonham
25-04-2011, 06:24 PM
Congrats to Michael on the 7/7.

Rhubarb
26-04-2011, 12:51 AM
Yes, congratulations to Michael on his clean score.

After phoning Grant earlier this evening and having another look at the posts on this thread, there is not enough information to reconstruct the SP files.

Hopefully Grant can come up with the goods tomorrow so this tournament can be included in FIDE's May list.

Kevin Bonham
26-04-2011, 01:06 AM
After phoning Grant earlier this evening and having another look at the posts on this thread, there is not enough information to reconstruct the SP files.

I actually tried to play SP-sudoku last night to reconstruct rounds 3 and 5 while advising Grant on the draw and found a solution but have made no attempt to prove it is unique and of course I am missing some round 7 results.

If my reconstruction was correct then it looks like the SP draw for round 6 was also wrong as it appears to have unnecessarily double-downfloated Bekker.

MichaelBaron
26-04-2011, 12:54 PM
Thx, Shirty and Kevin. Hopefully Grant sorts out the files and submits them soon

jhughes
26-04-2011, 02:00 PM
Here's my final round game against Sam Gluzman, this game had a particularly endgame, one that drew analysis of Michael Baron, Thai Ly and of course Sam's father, Mikhail; naturally the opinions of Sam and I fell into the background. Together we (they) had figured out that white's endgame plan was unsound; but checking with the Houdini engine this mightn't have been the case. Anyway, here is the game with annotations provided by myself.
Event: 2011 MCC Anzac Day Weekender
Site: 62-66 Leicester St., Fitzroy, Melbourne
Date: 2011.04.25
Round: 7
White: Jack Hughes
Black: Sam Gluzman
Result: 1-0
WhiteElo: 1143
BlackElo: 1207
EventDate: 2011.04.25

1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 3.d4 Bg4!? {The Portuguese variation, an aggressive line where black seeks a lead in development.} 4.Nf3
( 4.Be2 Bxe2 5.Qxe2 Qxd5 ~ )
( 4.Bb5+ Nbd7 5.f3 Bf5 ~ )
( 4.f3 Bf5 5.Bb5+ Nbd7 ~ )
4...Qxd5 5.Be2 e6 6.O-O Nc6 7.Nc3 {With this move white deviates from theory, more common is c4.} 7...Qd7 8.Ne5!? {Unfamiliar with the Portuguese variation, white seeks to exchange pieces.} 8...Nxe5 9.dxe5 Bxe2 10.Qxe2 Nd5 11.Nxd5 exd5 12.Re1?! {With the idea of playing e6, and then taking control of the e-file. Tempting as this may be, black is able to obtain a slight advantage resulting from white's unsound play.} 12...O-O-O 13.e6?! {Though playing this was the purpose of white's previous move; it remains an unsound choice, white could still seek a slight advantage with Bg5.}
( 13.Bg5 Re8 14.Rad1 h6 15.Bc1 += )
13...fxe6 14.Qxe6 Bd6 {Black tempts white to "take the bait" with Qxd5??, while developing a piece all the same! White instead continues his trading spree, and leaves himself some problems defending the weak f2 pawn.} 15.Qxd7+
( 15.Qxd5?? Bxh2+ 16.Kxh2 Qxd5 -+ )
15...Rxd7 16.Bg5?! {White overestimates his control of the e-file, and prevents Re7; but he ignores the problems arising on f2.}
( 16.g3 = {The line given by the strong Houdini engine, white first waits before attempting to take control of the e-file. But it does come with the disadvantage of placing another pawn on a dark square.} )
16...Bc5! {Black first pins the f-pawn before playing his rooks to the f-file. Thus preventing advances of the pawn.} 17.Re2 Rf8 18.Rae1?! {White continues to ignore the the growing problem of f2, and black's advantage increases.} 18...Rdf7 19.Re8+??
( 19.Bh4 =+ {Leading to a passive but playable position for white. Black's advantage has increased, but the position is still drawish.} )
19...Kd7 20.Rxf8 Rxf8
( 20...Bxf2+! 21.Kh1 Rxf8 22.Re7+ Kc6 )
( 20...Bxf2+! 21.Kf1 Rxf8 22.Re7+ Kc6 )
21.Re2 Rf5 22.Bd2 h5 23.Be3?! {White overestimates the kingside weaknesses created by black in playing h5 and seeks to reach a king and pawn endgame.} 23...Re5 24.Kf1 Bxe3 25.Rxe3
( 25.fxe3 )
25...Ke6 {Better is Rxe3, where black has a slight, but persistent advantage due to the weak isolated e-pawn.}
( 25...Rxe3 26.fxe3 =+ )
26.Ke2 Kf5?!
( 26...d4! 27.Rxe5+ Kxe5 28.Kd3 {Black diverts the game to the queenside, where black has the extra pawn and he ensures himself a slight, but lasting advantage.} )
27.Rxe5+?! Kxe5 28.Ke3 c5? {This move is tempting, preparing to create a passed pawn on the queenside. But better is d4+, where play stays on the queenside and black retains a slight advantage.}
( 28...d4+! 29.Kd3 {Transposing to the line with 26... d4} )
29.f4+! {White brings the centre of attention to the kingside, and the tables are beginning to turn.} 29...Kf5 30.Kf3 g6 {With this move black demonstrates his intention to draw this game, from here on black shows little ambition in his play, and white is able to seize the advantage.} 31.g3 {White wishes to play h3 and follow with g4+, but first playing g3 is necessary to prevent black from playing h4.}
( 31.h3? h4! {Here black has a sizeable advantage and white has reached the beginning of the end.} )
31...b6 32.h3 a6 33.g4+ hxg4+?!
( 33...Kf6 = {With this move the position should be drawn, white has no way to break through and is contingent upon an error from black.} )
34.hxg4+ Kf6 35.Ke3 Ke6 36.Kf3 Kf6 37.Ke3 Ke6 {White first shuffles the position before taking his first, and last shot to win the game.} 38.a3!? {With the idea of playing b4, a4 and a5 but while this is a sound idea; white has better ways to execute it. }
( 38.b4! {White strikes out immediately, and precise play from black is required if he wishes to hold this position.} 38...cxb4 39.Kd4 Kd6 40.f5 g5 41.f6 Ke6 42.f7 Kxf7 43.Kxd5 Kf6 44.Kd6 a5 45.Kc6
( 45.Kd5 a4 46.Kd6 Kf7 47.Ke5 Kg6 48.Ke6 a3 49.Ke5 Kh7 50.Kf5 Kh6 51.Kf6 Kh7 52.Kxg5 )
45...Ke5 46.Kxb6 Kf4 47.Kxa5 Kxg4 48.Kxb4 Kf4 49.a4 )
38...Kf6 39.b4 Ke6
( 39...a5 40.c3 )
40.a4! {White does not care for his b4 pawn, as he has bigger plans.} 40...Kf6?? {A losing blunder, white now shows his winning plan.}
( 40...a5! 41.bxc5 bxc5 {White now has no way to break through and the position is drawn.} )
( 40...cxb4!? {An alternate way for black to draw, but it is understandable that black found it not to be too enticing.} 41.Kd4 a5 42.f5+ gxf5 43.gxf5+ Kxf5 44.Kxd5 {White has the more active king, but black is still able to draw.} 44...b5!! {A fantastic pawn sacrifice that passes the once hapless a-pawn.} 45.axb5 a4 46.b6 a3 47.b7 a2 48.b8=Q a1=Q {Where we reach a drawn position. But it is still white with the slightly better position.} )
41.a5!! {White breaks through on the queenside, and from now onwards the position is won.} 41...bxa5 42.bxc5! {Not afriad of black's outside passed pawns, white creates a passed pawn of his own to go with the ghost of pawn to f5.} 42...a4 43.Kd4 a3 44.Kc3 d4+ {Black (again) attempts to bait the d-pawn.} 45.Kb3
( 45.Kxd4?? {A horrific blunder, white moves outside the square and his position is now lost.} 45...a2 )
45...Ke6 46.Kxa3 Kd5 47.f5 gxf5 {Black thinks he can hold both pawns, but white has one final blow!} 48.g5! {The g-pawn is too far out and white will queen with check!}
( 48.gxf5 {Remarkably, black can defend both pawns!} 48...Kxc5 49.Kb3 Kd6 50.Kc4 Ke5 51.f6 Kxf6 52.Kxd4 Ke6 53.Kc5 Ke5 54.Kb6 Kd5 55.Kxa6 Kc6 56.Ka5 Kc5 57.Ka4 Kc4 58.Ka3 Kc3 {And black holds a draw.} )
48...Kxc5 49.g6 d3 50.cxd3 Kd4 51.g7 Kxd3 52.g8=Q {I am unable to recollect the rest of the game (and I have lost the notation sheet) rest assured white proved victorious in about 10 more moves.} 1-0

Garrett
26-04-2011, 05:29 PM
Hopefully Grant can come up with the goods tomorrow so this tournament can be included in FIDE's May list.

hey Shirty

the Garvinator said he will get the SP files off to you tonite for the Qld Open.

Would it get rated for May too ?

cheers Garrett.

Adamski
26-04-2011, 06:19 PM
Congrats to Michael on the 7/7.
Well done, Michael. No-one can argue with 100%!

Garrett
26-04-2011, 06:23 PM
Congrats to Michael on the 7/7.

oops sorry, I thought I had already congratulated Michael this morning when I made that last post.

Well done Michael ! Great picket fence !

cheers Garrett.

Adamski
26-04-2011, 06:34 PM
Probably your mind was on playing FM Gene, George. Which I see you did very successfully!

Rhubarb
27-04-2011, 09:23 PM
hey Shirty

the Garvinator said he will get the SP files off to you tonite for the Qld Open.

Would it get rated for May too ?

cheers Garrett.
Hi Garrett,

No, April 25 was the last possible finishing date for inclusion in the May list. This is why the MCC Anzac weekender and the Doeberl Cup and Major are in the May list while the Qld Open isn't. Note that this is automatically programmed into the server so I cannot manually move the registration forward to May. The only exceptions FIDE allows are its own tournaments and the occasional category 20 super GM tournament. Well done on your fine result but I'm afraid you'll have to wait until July to pick up the FIDE rating points you have coming.

Rhubarb
27-04-2011, 09:26 PM
Grant was able to provide the SP files so the report for the MCC Anzac Day weekender has now been submitted.

Garrett
28-04-2011, 05:14 AM
Hi Garrett,

No, April 25 was the last possible finishing date for inclusion in the May list. This is why the MCC Anzac weekender and the Doeberl Cup and Major are in the May list while the Qld Open isn't. Note that this is automatically programmed into the server so I cannot manually move the registration forward to May. The only exceptions FIDE allows are its own tournaments and the occasional category 20 super GM tournament.

Okay thanks Shirty !



Well done on your fine result

Thanks again !



...but I'm afraid you'll have to wait until July to pick up the FIDE rating points you have coming.

I'm sure I can find a way to squander them before then :D

On a general note, I guess I should apologise for bringing this subject up in an MCC thread but rating deadlines were mentioned so I thought I would jump in.....