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Kevin Bonham
11-08-2004, 03:15 AM
For your amusement and laughter. This is an (in)action shot of me (the balding guy) beating, of all things, a mobile phone while the phone's owner (the bald guy - not a tournament player but decent) watches the mindless violence unfold. This photo was taken at the Coven, Hobart's monthly goth/dark alternative club night.

http://coven.gothic.net.au/images/7aug2004/covenaug0441.jpg

The game itself should give a fair idea of the technology's limitations (and some of mine as well, though I do not normally play quite this kind of streaky garbage OTB.)

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 Bc5 4.Nxe5 Nxe5 5.d4 Bd6 6.dxe5 Bxe5 7.f4 Bxc3+ 8.bxc3 Ne7 9.Bc4 0-0 10.0-0 d6 11.f5 Nc6 12.Qh5 Qe7 13.f6 gxf6 14.Qh4 Qe5 15.Bh6 Re8 16.Rf4 Qc5+?? 17.Kh1 Qxc4 18.Qg3+ Bg4 19.Qxg4+ Kh8 20.Qg7# 1-0

The blunder on move 16 suggests a rather short move horizon.

Mobile phone chess has a long way to go ...

Alan Shore
11-08-2004, 12:35 PM
Kev all I see is a red x.. please fix your link!

ursogr8
11-08-2004, 12:46 PM
Kev all I see is a red x.. please fix your link!

The display is OK for me. :cool:
Although I could not stretch this to a comment on the content of the pic. :hand:

Alan Shore
11-08-2004, 01:11 PM
The display is OK for me. :cool:
Although I could not stretch this to a comment on the content of the pic. :hand:

Yeah it's fine for me now too.

That's really weird, Kevin looks very much how I had pictured him...

Kevin Bonham
17-10-2011, 06:43 AM
*bump*

Yeah, not sure who the goon with all the hair is up there. Anyway, en route to Krakow I took on a new class of opponent and pitted my wits against a jumbo jet via a chess game installed in the in-flight entertainment.

On what it claimed to be "medium" level the following unfolded:

K. Bonham - B. 747

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bb5 a6?! 5.Bxc6 dxc6 6.Nxe5 Bd6 7.Nc4 which is probably not the best move anyway but I was hardly expecting 7...Bxh2?? 8.Rxh2 and white went on to win after more such blunders by black. 1-0

I reset the difficulty level to "hard" and the same thing happened again. I tried 1.f4 and got a massive centre and won in about 20 moves. I played the Cabbage and won. I gave queen odds and won. I tried to win by moving only my queen (at least until it was left with only its king) and had captured a rook and two pawns when I accidentally blundered the queen (and won anyway moving other pieces.)

It's somewhat disquieting that something that does such a great job of keeping one in the air plays chess exactly as well as I fly - ie in its dreams. :doh:

Rincewind
17-10-2011, 07:42 AM
Sorry. You should have been warned that playing the Qantas inflight chess was a waste of time.

Max Illingworth
17-10-2011, 08:31 AM
Earlier this year I played against the B747 chess computer on 'hard' as White; the game started 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Ne4 6.d4 ed4 7.Re1 f5 8.f3 and the computer showed great skill in walking into checkmate by move 15.

Jesper Norgaard
17-10-2011, 10:49 AM
I had a go at KasparovMate on the flight to India. After having to accomodate to input typed in like "e2e4" I got around to what turned out as an exciting match although I won the 3 games played, but not without effort. The first game was probably the most spectacular:

Jesper Norgaard (2408) - KasparovMate (2300) [B01]
Friendly game in plane (1), 27.03.2011


1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qe5+ 4.Be2 Qg5 5.Bf3 Nc6 6.d4 Qa5 7.Nge2 Bd7 8.Bd2 0-0-0 rather feeble opening play, but it quickly becomes worse, and our silicon friend loses a pawn 9.Nd5 Qa4 10.b3 Qb5 11.c4 Qa6 12.Bf4 e5 13.dxe5 Re8 now things get really exciting, I could not approve of {14.0-0 Nxe5} so 14.Nxc7! the point is e5-e6(+) 14...Qa5+ 15.Kf1 Qxc7 16.e6 Qd8 17.exd7+ played quickly but {17.exf7!} is surprisingly the best 17...Qxd7 18.Qxd7+ Kxd7 19.Rd1+ Ke7 20.Nc3 Kf6 21.h4 Bb4 22.Nd5+ Kg6 23.h5+ Kf5 24.g4+ Ke6 25.Nc7+ Ke7 26.a3 Ba5 27.Nxe8 Kxe8 28.b4 Bb6 29.c5 Bd8 30.Kg2 Nf6 31.Rhe1+ Be7 32.Bxc6+ bxc6 33.Bd6 Ng8 34.Bxe7 Nxe7 35.Rd2 f6 any opponent of flesh and blood would resign, but my "mate" of course plays on to mate! 36.Rde2 Kd8 37.Rxe7 g6 38.Rxa7 gxh5 39.Ra8+ Kd7 40.Rxh8 hxg4 41.Rxh7+ Kd8 42.Ree7 f5 43.Ra7 Ke8 44.Rh8# 1-0

I don't think it was 2300, probably 2100, and I doubt it used an opening module, but still a worthwhile match. Don't know which airline it was.

Jesper Norgaard
17-10-2011, 11:56 AM
Earlier this year I played against the B747 chess computer on 'hard' as White; the game started 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 Ne4 6.d4 ed4 7.Re1 f5 8.f3 and the computer showed great skill in walking into checkmate by move 15.
Sorry would that be 8.c3? There is a knight on f3.

Max Illingworth
17-10-2011, 01:05 PM
Sorry would that be 8.c3? There is a knight on f3.

Whoops, I meant 8.Nd4 d5 9.f3.

Agent Smith
17-10-2011, 04:41 PM
Well, i for one would be worried if the 747 was beating people at chess. Just fly the plane , thank-you! :cool:
But, yes, it is quite awful. No doubt an airline ploy to soothe bad-tempered passengers, or something.

Capablanca-Fan
18-10-2011, 02:12 AM
Even their "hard" draughts level is not up to much, and I am hardly a great draughts player.

Max Illingworth
18-10-2011, 09:22 AM
Even their "hard" draughts level is not up to much, and I am hardly a great draughts player.

I also played the B747 computer at checkers on 'hard' and beat it quite easily.

Kevin Bonham
11-09-2012, 03:18 AM
Just on a plane with the Kasparov endorsed one that claims to go up to 2300. After a few losses caused by its deeply annoying sound effects blunders on my part, this is a fragment of a game I was playing against it (I'm white) when it was saved by the inflight entertainment being switched off:

1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nf3! Qe4+ 4.Be2 Bf5 5.d3 Qd5 6.Nc3 Qc5 7.Be3 Qb4 8.0-0 Qxb2 9.Qd2 b6 10.Rfb1 Qa3

If it is installed on the next plane I'm on, it's toast. :lol:

Can usually beat it on hard level at backgammon but took a while to do so at checkers which I'm probably just bad at since I've scarcely played it since about age eight.

Perpie
11-09-2012, 09:04 PM
Just on a plane with the Kasparov endorsed one that claims to go up to 2300. After a few losses caused by its deeply annoying sound effects blunders on my part, this is a fragment of a game I was playing against it (I'm white) when it was saved by the inflight entertainment being switched off:

1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nf3! Qe4+ 4.Be2 Bf5 5.d3 Qd5 6.Nc3 Qc5 7.Be3 Qb4 8.0-0 Qxb2 9.Qd2 b6 10.Rfb1 Qa3

If it is installed on the next plane I'm on, it's toast. :lol:

Can usually beat it on hard level at backgammon but took a while to do so at checkers which I'm probably just bad at since I've scarcely played it since about age eight.

I played that one too, on the way back from Athens. IMO it played at about 1600 level, maybe less. Incidentally I also played reversi on hard and won one game out of about 15.

Capablanca-Fan
12-09-2012, 06:56 AM
Even their "hard" draughts level is not up to much, and I am hardly a great draughts player.
It seems to have been updated considerably since then. It still plays ridiculous centre-counter queen wanderings as with KB.

road runner
12-09-2012, 02:01 PM
I didn't know you could ask for a chess machine on a plane. Is it just international flights they offer this?

Kevin Bonham
12-09-2012, 02:42 PM
I didn't know you could ask for a chess machine on a plane. Is it just international flights they offer this?

Many international flights have various versions of software where you can watch movies or TV shows, play games, view various flight info and so on. When I flew Qantas from Aus to Frankfurt last year the movie version played the movies by scrolling them to the whole plane, so if you wanted to play a particular movie you had to wait until it was ready to start again. When I flew Etihad from Aus to Istanbul you could pick a movie and it would load and start whenever you liked. Either version you can pick and load games whenever you like.

Different planes are fitted with different versions of the software. Thus while the flight from Istanbul to Abu Dhabi yesterday had the newer chess version, the flight from Abu Dhabi to Melbourne had the hopeless older one.


Incidentally I also played reversi on hard and won one game out of about 15.

I also did this winning one out of about six and the one I won was far from easy.

Denis_Jessop
12-09-2012, 05:32 PM
Just on a plane with the Kasparov endorsed one that claims to go up to 2300. After a few losses caused by its deeply annoying sound effects blunders on my part, this is a fragment of a game I was playing against it (I'm white) when it was saved by the inflight entertainment being switched off:

1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nf3! Qe4+ 4.Be2 Bf5 5.d3 Qd5 6.Nc3 Qc5 7.Be3 Qb4 8.0-0 Qxb2 9.Qd2 b6 10.Rfb1 Qa3

If it is installed on the next plane I'm on, it's toast. :lol:

Can usually beat it on hard level at backgammon but took a while to do so at checkers which I'm probably just bad at since I've scarcely played it since about age eight.

If it was deliberately disturbing you with sound effects, you should have raised the matter with an arbiter, ie a flight steward :)

DJ

Kevin Bonham
12-09-2012, 05:37 PM
If it was deliberately disturbing you with sound effects, you should have raised the matter with an arbiter, ie a flight steward :)

Or taken the headphones off, which took some time to occur to me.

ER
12-09-2012, 06:48 PM
flying United from Sydney to San Francisco I watched the whole Godfather trilogy bar the final part of Godfather III.
I simply couldn't stand Pietro Mascagni's masterpiece being so rudely disturbed by Coppola's violent cinematographic juxtapositions.
As for their chess game it only went for six moves and then the screen froze!