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mikesguns
17-09-2009, 07:15 PM
On Tuesday nights at MCC there will be a new round robin FIDE rated tournament for 8 people. This will be starting soon.
The entrants so far are

1. Michael Baron
2. Carl Gorka
3. Michael Addamo
4. Frank Lekkas

There are also 1 or 2 unconfirmed entries

That means we just need 2-3 more players.
If anyone is interested (preferably with a FIDE rating, although anyone is welcome), contact the organizer, Grant Szuveges at grantszuveges@gmail.com or post in this thread.

lost
17-09-2009, 08:02 PM
Are you needing any more players at all?

lost

mikesguns
17-09-2009, 10:06 PM
yeh 2 or 3

Metro
17-09-2009, 10:15 PM
Why "Phoenix"?

mikesguns
17-09-2009, 10:18 PM
I don't know ask Grant?
Are you interested in playing?

lost
18-09-2009, 12:50 PM
I am interested in playing in the tournament.

lost

Grant Szuveges
18-09-2009, 02:27 PM
Hi Lost

If you want to play, just send me your details at grantszuveges@gmail.com or call me on 0401-925-075. I will still need another 2 players at this stage.

Thanks to Michael for doing so much publicity for this event!

The basic details for the tournament are as follows:
It will be held on Tuesday evenings starting at the end of September.
Entry fee will be $50 for MCC members and $60 for non-members.
It will be FIDE rated so people without a FIDE rating can get a block.

Hi Metz

The tournament was Michael Baron's brainchild actually and we liked the name "Phoenix" because the MCC has been rising from the ashes in a way this year. I cant remember whether it was Michael or myself (or even someone else) who thought up the name though - I think it was probably Michael.

Anyway, as soon as we confirm 8 players, we can get things started.... Metz, do you want to play too?

Grant

Lekko
18-09-2009, 03:26 PM
Hi Lost

If you want to play, just send me your details at grantszuveges@gmail.com or call me on 0401-925-075. I will still need another 2 players at this stage.

Thanks to Michael for doing so much publicity for this event!

The basic details for the tournament are as follows:
It will be held on Tuesday evenings starting at the end of September.
Entry fee will be $50 for MCC members and $60 for non-members.
It will be FIDE rated so people without a FIDE rating can get a block.

Hi Metz

The tournament was Michael Baron's brainchild actually and we liked the name "Phoenix" because the MCC has been rising from the ashes in a way this year. I cant remember whether it was Michael or myself (or even someone else) who thought up the name though - I think it was probably Michael.

Anyway, as soon as we confirm 8 players, we can get things started.... Metz, do you want to play too?

Grant
When me and Michael were discussing it, you said "we'll call it the Phoenix Open". I have no idea why that line sticks out in my head, but it was you that thought up the name ;)

Metro
18-09-2009, 06:00 PM
Hi Metz

The tournament was Michael Baron's brainchild actually and we liked the name "Phoenix" because the MCC has been rising from the ashes in a way this year. I cant remember whether it was Michael or myself (or even someone else) who thought up the name though - I think it was probably Michael.

Anyway, as soon as we confirm 8 players, we can get things started.... Metz, do you want to play too?

Grant
Thanks Grant.Michael will be too formidable an opponent for me.By the way,you can call me Met:D

mikesguns
20-09-2009, 08:58 PM
Only two spots left

The list is now
Michael Addamo
Michael Baron
Carl Gorka
Frank Lekkas
Gary Bekker
Jamie Kenmure

Rhubarb
21-09-2009, 11:32 PM
Please let me know of the exact dates, format, time controls, arbiter(s) and organiser(s) as soon as these details are finalised.

Regards,
Greg Canfell

mikesguns
24-09-2009, 06:07 PM
Richard Voon and one other are interested, but there entries haven't been confirmed

lost
24-09-2009, 08:57 PM
Who is the other person interested?

lost

mikesguns
24-09-2009, 09:19 PM
Rodolfo D'Onofrio from BHCC

lost
24-09-2009, 10:40 PM
When will these tow entrants be confirmed?

lost

mikesguns
24-09-2009, 10:43 PM
As soon as Grant contacts Rodolfo or vice versa and also when all current players contact Grant about Voon's conditions

lost
24-09-2009, 10:52 PM
Should be interesting tournament. If a couple of entrants don't agree to Voon's conditions, is it possible to run a double round robin at all?

lost

mikesguns
24-09-2009, 11:12 PM
Nah I don't think so. We should be able to find someone else if he doesn't play.

Carl Gorka
25-09-2009, 04:56 PM
As soon as Grant contacts Rodolfo or vice versa and also when all current players contact Grant about Voon's conditions

Some of the rounds of this tournament conflict with the Vic Champs which some of us may want to play in.

I want to support the MCC and play in this event, but I also want to support CV and play in their premier event. I would urge all players to consider the Vic Champs, which used to have a number of different round robin sections, Championship, Reserves, Qualifiers events.

Anyway, I have emailed Grant about my position which is roughly against the rigidity that Richard requires.

mikesguns
25-09-2009, 06:37 PM
Some of the rounds of this tournament conflict with the Vic Champs which some of us may want to play in.

I want to support the MCC and play in this event, but I also want to support CV and play in their premier event. I would urge all players to consider the Vic Champs, which used to have a number of different round robin sections, Championship, Reserves, Qualifiers events.

Anyway, I have emailed Grant about my position which is roughly against the rigidity that Richard requires.

Yeh this is a problem. I was also thinking of playing in the reserves, but I turned it down to play in this tournament because Elwood was far away. It would be hard to play in both though, as 3 games would have to be postponed.

littlesprout85
25-09-2009, 07:04 PM
Augh !!! :doh:

Sprouty was thinking that this was going to be a tourney here In Arizona. With a name like pheonix it can be easily confused.

-Sprout85 =)

mikesguns
25-09-2009, 07:24 PM
Ah lol:D
What are you doing on an Australian website?

Kevin Bonham
25-09-2009, 08:00 PM
Ah lol:D
What are you doing on an Australian website?

Chesschat may be an Australian-centred forum but we have posters from many different countries.

ER
25-09-2009, 08:11 PM
Have Richard's "conditions" been published somewhere? there is reference to them but I cannot see them!

mikesguns
25-09-2009, 08:16 PM
Yeh right here

Richard Voon is willing to play if we have a rule about postponements - whereby players can only get postponements if they are sick or out of Melbourne. All the players have to agree. If they do, he plays if they don't, he doesn't.

ER
25-09-2009, 08:25 PM
Thanks Michael!

lost
25-09-2009, 11:13 PM
That's what I mean. I'm happy to agree to Voon's conditions, but for other people who are going to play in the tournament, but want to play in the Victorian Championships, are forced to choose.

If Voon is granted his "wish" is it at all possible to play double round-robin. This is just an idea and can someone from the MCC look at this option?

lost

mikesguns
26-09-2009, 09:29 AM
Ok lost, I'll contact Grant about your idea

MichaelBaron
26-09-2009, 12:28 PM
That's what I mean. I'm happy to agree to Voon's conditions, but for other people who are going to play in the tournament, but want to play in the Victorian Championships, are forced to choose.

If Voon is granted his "wish" is it at all possible to play double round-robin. This is just an idea and can someone from the MCC look at this option?

lost

I do not like this idea....I do not want to play 14 games! it will drag the tournament forever

mikesguns
26-09-2009, 01:16 PM
I think what lost means is that if there aren't sufficient numbers of players available for a single round robin then it show be a double round robin. For example if there is only 5 players, then there would be a 8 round tournament.

Carl Gorka
26-09-2009, 01:18 PM
I do not like this idea....I do not want to play 14 games! it will drag the tournament forever

I think the idea was less players in a double RR assuming some players decide not to play, so perhaps just 6, but lets get on with it.

However, I'm with you here, Michael, I would prefer to see 8 or 10 player single round robins.

lost
26-09-2009, 06:00 PM
Hey guys,

It was just a thought, that's all. I would prefer 8-10 players as well.

Anyway I will leave it in the capable hands of the MCC who are organising the tournament.

lost

Grant Szuveges
27-09-2009, 04:16 PM
Hi Everyone

Here is the up-to-date list of players.

1. Michael BARON
2. Carl GORKA
3. Michael ADDAMO
4. Frank LEKKAS
5. Jamie KENMURE

Ive heard that Rudolfo (sorry if Ive spelt that wrong) wants to play too.

Rudolfo, if you are reading this, please contact me asap on 0401-925-075 or grantszuveges@gmail.com and the 6th spot is yours. Still room for 2 more players and then we can start!

lost
27-09-2009, 09:50 PM
Hi Grant,

If you can't get another 2 players, will you consider a double round robin.

Therefore it will be 10 rounds.

It's just a thought and a option.

lost

Lekko
27-09-2009, 10:27 PM
Hi Grant,

If you can't get another 2 players, will you consider a double round robin.

Therefore it will be 10 rounds.

It's just a thought and a option.

lost
I want to play as little games as possible mate :\ Is there any particular reason you'd like a double round robin, do you prefer them or something, or you just want to get this out of the way?

lost
28-09-2009, 12:35 AM
It is only a thought, thats all.

lost

mikesguns
28-09-2009, 09:13 AM
Hey Lost,
With the people we have at the moment it is impossible to have a round robin or double round robin that is FIDE rated.
6.3
In a round robin tournament at least one-third of the players must be rated.
6.31
If the event has less than 10 players, at least 4 must be rated.
6.32
In a double round tournament with unrated participants, there must be at least 6 players, 4 of whom must be rated.

So we need at least 2 more FIDE rated players to have any type of FIDE tournament.

lost
28-09-2009, 10:17 AM
Good point there.

Come on players join this great tournament!

lost

Grant Szuveges
30-09-2009, 12:01 PM
Hi people

Scott Stewart has announced that he will play in the tournament

lost
30-09-2009, 01:17 PM
Hi Grant,

This is great news for the tournament. Let's get another two players now or even four to make it more interesting!

lost

MichaelBaron
30-09-2009, 01:52 PM
Hi Grant,

This is great news for the tournament. Let's get another two players now or even four to make it more interesting!

lost

another 2 is enough :). I think 9 rounds is the maximum number
of rounds to keep it ''interesting'' :)

lost
30-09-2009, 02:55 PM
Fair enough Michael!

lost

mikesguns
30-09-2009, 03:24 PM
We have 7 players, so 2 more would make 9 which is an odd number meaning that there would be a bye. We either need 1 or 3 players.
If you really want 10 players, you could probably pick up a couple of kids from the MCC Allegro who don't have a FIDE rating because if there are 8 or 10 players only 4 need to be rated

mikesguns
30-09-2009, 03:41 PM
I have a list of players with ACF and FIDE ratings, respectively so far.

1. Michael Baron 2266 2324
2. Carl Gorka 2055 2170
3. Scott Stewart 1801 1928
4. Frank Lekkas 1375
5. Rodolfo D'Onofrio 1344
6. Jamie Kenmure 1331
7. Michael Addamo 1144

lost
30-09-2009, 03:50 PM
Lets get the last player guys. Maybe me might be able to persuade West or Rujevic to play in the tournament.

lost

mikesguns
30-09-2009, 03:53 PM
Yeh I hope so
:D

Grant Szuveges
02-10-2009, 04:02 PM
Hi Everyone

Im proud to announce that we now have the final player we need! Bobby Cheng is that player, so the field will be as follows:
1. Michael Baron
2. Carl Gorka
3. Frank Lekkas
4. Michael Addamo
5. Rodolfo De Onofrio
6. Jamie Kenmure
7. Scott Stewart
8. Bobby Cheng

The event will begin this Tuesday at the MCC! Looking forward to it! See you all there...

mikesguns
02-10-2009, 04:28 PM
Cool its finally starting. Should be a good tournament. I'm looking forward to it:D

lost
02-10-2009, 08:03 PM
Would like to thank the MCC for their hard work and getting Bobby Cheng to play in this tournament.

Well done MCC.

lost

Carl Gorka
03-10-2009, 07:02 PM
Pheonix Invitational to start this Tuesday 6th October.

The draw has just been made at the Melbourne Chess Club with the starting order set as:

1. Bobby Cheng fm
2. Rodolfo D'Onofrio
3. Michael Addamo
4. Frank Lekkas
5. Carl Gorka
6. Michael Baron fm
7. Scott Stewart
8. Jamie Kenmure


Round 1: (6th October 2009)

1 Bobby Cheng [0] : Jamie Kenmure [0]
2 Rodolfo D'Onofrio [0] : Scott Stewart [0]
3 Michael Addamo [0] : Michael Baron [0]
4 Frank Lekkas [0] : Carl Gorka [0]

Round 2 (13th October 2009)

1 Jamie Kenmure [0] : Carl Gorka [0]
2 Michael Baron [0] : Frank Lekkas [0]
3 Scott Stewart [0] : Michael Addamo [0]
4 Bobby Cheng [0] : Rodolfo D'Onofrio [0]

MichaelBaron
04-10-2009, 03:15 PM
The Bad news is: I have to teach on Tuesday nights! Therefore, I think it will be impossible for me to participate in the tournament. I was considering playing ..and postponing 6 out of my 7 games...but then again ..only day i could possibly play these game is Friday....Playing chess friday nights for 6 weeks in a row...is not exactly what i would love to do...to make things worse i do not think it would be nice towards my opponents to leave them with no postpoment options rather than a particular day.

Therefore, i think its best if some other player is found to take my place!

mikesguns
04-10-2009, 04:37 PM
Ok, lets hope Grant can find someone else

mikesguns
04-10-2009, 07:56 PM
More bad news Bobby might be withdrawing

MichaelBaron
04-10-2009, 09:05 PM
:( I am very sorry.
I may come this Tuesday just to wish everyone good luck!

mikesguns
05-10-2009, 06:51 AM
:( I am very sorry.
I may come this Tuesday just to wish everyone good luck!
Don't be sorry. If you have to work, work. I'm sure we'll find another 2 FIDE rated players

lost
05-10-2009, 08:32 AM
Let's hope the MCC can get this tournament up and running very soon!!

lost

mikesguns
06-10-2009, 06:57 AM
Have any players been found, as I want to know if it will still be starting tonight?

lost
06-10-2009, 08:30 AM
To my understanding it isn't, but I would recommend contacting Carl or MCC on this to confirm!

lost

Carl Gorka
06-10-2009, 03:51 PM
ok, sorry to leave this so late, but players have not been found as of yet, so this tournament will have to go on hold for at least a week.

I will do my best to come up with another Fide rated player as that is all we need to get this tournament going.

Again, sorry for the late notice,

Carl

ER
08-10-2009, 03:02 PM
ok, sorry to leave this so late, but players have not been found as of yet, so this tournament will have to go on hold for at least a week.

I will do my best to come up with another Fide rated player as that is all we need to get this tournament going.

Again, sorry for the late notice,

Carl

Hey Carl try some Nepalese or maybe David Cordover wants to make a comeback!:lol:

mikesguns
09-10-2009, 04:05 PM
Hey Carl try some Nepalese or maybe David Cordover wants to make a comeback!:lol:
Yeh :D
Has there been any new entries?

Carl Gorka
09-10-2009, 04:58 PM
Yeh :D
Has there been any new entries?

Not yet, but we may be close to getting someone. I spoke to a couple of people last night who have to work out their commitments first. I will hopefully post some good news tomorrow.

mikesguns
09-10-2009, 05:00 PM
Ok kool:)

lost
11-10-2009, 11:07 PM
Any news on the players at all?

lost

Carl Gorka
12-10-2009, 09:05 PM
Any news on the players at all?

lost

No news is bad news:(

lost
12-10-2009, 10:01 PM
Do we need to come tomorrow night at all? Can you give me a call and let me know.

lost

Carl Gorka
12-10-2009, 10:04 PM
Do we need to come tomorrow night at all? Can you give me a call and let me know.

lost

No Jamie, the tournament will not be starting tomorrow, though I will be at the MCC for a few hours if anyone wants to come down and hustle me at some blitz:D

Lekko
13-10-2009, 10:37 PM
No Jamie, the tournament will not be starting tomorrow, though I will be at the MCC for a few hours if anyone wants to come down and hustle me at some blitz:D
When did you come down :(

mikesguns
16-10-2009, 08:56 PM
For those who don't know we still need 2 FIDE rated players.
Maybe some could be taken from the BHCC Fide Tournament that finished a few Tuesdays ago

queenant89
22-10-2009, 06:26 PM
If there are players still needed, the time November comes, Ill place an entry and play.. :) I arrive back on the 9th November.

Cheers

Sarah

mikesguns
31-10-2009, 10:12 AM
It would be much better if it started Tuesday next week, as many players want to play from then onwards

lost
04-11-2009, 12:45 PM
To the organisers of this tournament,

Is there any information on when the tournament is going to start at all, but most importantly do we have the required players at all?

lost

mikesguns
04-11-2009, 02:13 PM
To the organisers of this tournament,

Is there any information on when the tournament is going to start at all, but most importantly do we have the required players at all?

lost

Yes, the tournament will start next Tuesday as we have the required players

queenant89
06-11-2009, 05:02 AM
Can a list of Entries and draw be posted anytime soon?

queenant89
08-11-2009, 01:10 PM
Due to unforseen circumstances, i believe that i not a a realli good position to be participating in this upcoming tournament.

Cheers

Sarah

lost
08-11-2009, 01:24 PM
Due to unforseen circumstances, i believe that i not a a realli good position to be participating in this upcoming tournament.

Cheers

Sarah

That's sad to hear Sarah. Hope everything is ok.

To the organisers,

What is happening with this tournament? Can the players just have some information on this.

lost

queenant89
08-11-2009, 01:34 PM
That's sad to hear Sarah. Hope everything is ok.

To the organisers,

What is happening with this tournament? Can the players just have some information on this.

lost

All is ok, I am going to focus on my other sporting ventures which take up 4 days of my week, aswell as my studies. I dont believe that i can fully committment to playing on all tuesdays as my trainings are 4-8pm, for 4 weeks of the tournament.

lost
08-11-2009, 02:02 PM
All is ok, I am going to focus on my other sporting ventures which take up 4 days of my week, aswell as my studies. I dont believe that i can fully committment to playing on all tuesdays as my trainings are 4-8pm, for 4 weeks of the tournament.

Fair enough Sarah. All the best in training and I hope to see/hear of you back in the tournaments soon enough!

lost

queenant89
08-11-2009, 02:33 PM
Thanks, Ill most likely be back for the MCC Champs next year or the SIO.

All the best for the tournament.

lost
08-11-2009, 02:35 PM
Thank you Sarah.

lost

Lekko
08-11-2009, 09:46 PM
Bugger :\

Enjoy the rest of your trip Sarah, we'll see you when you get back.

mikesguns
10-11-2009, 09:19 AM
Is the tournament starting tonight?

lost
10-11-2009, 10:20 AM
Michael,

Yes it is starting tonight. Be at the club for around 7PM.

lost

Lekko
10-11-2009, 04:42 PM
Michael,

Yes it is starting tonight. Be at the club for around 7PM.

lost
Just making sure you guys know, my game for tonight needs to be postponed. Let me know who I'm playing guys :)

ER
10-11-2009, 04:50 PM
Letting everyone know that I can only play Tuesday nights!

mikesguns
10-11-2009, 05:00 PM
Is a draw going to be put up since the person who is playing Frank will come and wont play?

Lekko
10-11-2009, 06:39 PM
Is a draw going to be put up since the person who is playing Frank will come and wont play?
I was going to be playing Sarah because we'd both need postponements for today but she pulled out :\
Sorry to whoever I'm playing :)

lost
11-11-2009, 12:11 AM
Here are the results of tonights round. I will be posting everything up as soon as I get access to the computer every week.

1 Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0] : Warren, Elizabeth [0]
2 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0] 0:1 Tanner, Michael 1070 [0]
3 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0] 0:1 Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0]
4 Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0] .5:.5 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0]

lost

Bereaved
11-11-2009, 01:25 AM
Here are the results of tonights round. I will be posting everything up as soon as I get access to the computer every week.


lost




1 Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0] : Warren, Elizabeth [0]
2 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0] 0:1 Tanner, Michael 1070 [0]
3 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0] 0:1 Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0]
4 Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0] .5:.5 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0]
Just lined this up Jamie, you need to select pairings data and then use the # key in the posting window which maintains the original formatting,

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

PS I'll delete this if you want to edit your original post and then I can delete

ER
11-11-2009, 06:54 AM
and guess what!!!! It starts at 7.30 pm thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-signs153.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

MichaelBaron
11-11-2009, 06:50 PM
Good luck to all of the participants. Great to see yet another new event started by MCC :clap:

ER
11-11-2009, 07:09 PM
Thank you for being there and help with the analysis after the games too Michael. It was a great experience!!!
It was amazing to see such strong players, such as yourself, Carl, Grant, David and Elie, going thoroughly through all games and providing advice in all aspects of the game!
Actually one of the highlights last night was fg7 showing basic endings to Elizabeth which then she had to practice against him with one minute of the clock! I am sure it was a great learning experience for her!

lost
11-11-2009, 08:44 PM
Thank you for being there and help with the analysis after the games too Michael. It was a great experience!!!
It was amazing to see such strong players, such as yourself, Carl, Grant, David and Elie, going thoroughly through all games and providing advice in all aspects of the game!
Actually one of the highlights last night was fg7 showing basic endings to Elizabeth which then she had to practice against him with one minute of the clock! I am sure it was a great learning experience for her!

Elliott,

I have to agree with you there 100%. With fg7 being there to help the up and coming players is fantastic. Also having Carl, Michael Baron and Grant Szuveges is fantastic.

lost

lost
13-11-2009, 10:58 PM
To all participants in the Phoenix Invitational,

Just remember games will be starting exactly at 7.30PM and its a 30 minute fortfeit rule as well.

lost

Lekko
17-11-2009, 10:54 PM
Lost, can you put up each round's pairings? As in, a post with the remaining rounds pairings so I can see who I will be playing next week and the week after and so on.

lost
18-11-2009, 12:09 AM
No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0] : Warren, Elizabeth [0]
2 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0] 0:1 Tanner, Michael 1070 [0]
3 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0] 0:1 Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0]
4 Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0] .5:.5 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Warren, Elizabeth [0] 0:1 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0]
2 Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0] : Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0]
3 Tanner, Michael 1070 [0] 1:0 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0]
4 Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0] 1:0 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0] : Warren, Elizabeth [0]
2 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0] : Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0]
3 Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0] : Tanner, Michael 1070 [0]
4 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0] : Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Warren, Elizabeth [0] : Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0]
2 Tanner, Michael 1070 [0] : Addamo, Michael 1144 [0]
3 Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0] : Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0]
4 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0] : Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0] : Warren, Elizabeth [0]
2 Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0] : Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0]
3 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0] : Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0]
4 Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0] : Tanner, Michael 1070 [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Warren, Elizabeth [0] : Tanner, Michael 1070 [0]
2 Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0] : Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0]
3 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0] : Addamo, Michael 1144 [0]
4 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0] : Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0] : Warren, Elizabeth [0]
2 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0] : Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0]
3 Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0] : Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0]
4 Tanner, Michael 1070 [0] : Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0]





These are the results for tonights round.

lost

Lekko
18-11-2009, 01:08 AM
Thanks Lost. Good work :)

mikesguns
18-11-2009, 08:27 AM
Yeh thanks lost for publishing the results and all the round pairings.
Have you worked out the prize money yet?

lost
18-11-2009, 08:18 PM
Yeh thanks lost for publishing the results and all the round pairings.
Have you worked out the prize money yet?

No problem at all. Prize money is not up to me at all but the organisers, which in this case is MCC. Maddam12, can you send me your game in a private message.

lost

Lekko
18-11-2009, 10:11 PM
No problem at all. Prize money is not up to me at all but the organisers, which in this case is MCC. Maddam12, can you send me your game in a private message.

lost
Carl will be collecting the entry fees next Tuesday from anyone who hasn't payed. Hopefully we'll know by the following Tuesday. Lost I'm sending you the game now.

mikesguns
22-11-2009, 08:58 AM
After this tournament will everyone have 7 FIDE rated games as it is a round robin and at least a third of the players are FIDE rated?
Actually according to the FIDE Handbook
6.31 If the event has less than 10 players, at least 4 must be rated.
Maybe not
Any other opinions?

lost
22-11-2009, 11:34 AM
After this tournament will everyone have 7 FIDE rated games as it is a round robin and at least a third of the players are FIDE rated?
Actually according to the FIDE Handbook
6.31 If the event has less than 10 players, at least 4 must be rated.
Maybe not
Any other opinions?

I am looking into this and working with Gary Bekker on this matter as we both believe that it is a third of the field, which we do have.

lost
22-11-2009, 11:37 AM
No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Warren, Elizabeth [0] : Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0]
2 Tanner, Michael 1070 [0] : Addamo, Michael 1144 [0]
3 Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0] : Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0]
4 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0] : Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0]




This is Tuesday nights pairings due to the fact that Frank Lekkas will have to postpone his game and was due to play Elliott Renzies who cannot postpone game so we will be playing Round 4 games this week and the following week we will play Round 3 games.

lost

ER
22-11-2009, 12:11 PM
Hi Jaime, in a discussion with Frank we have agreed that we can have our game postponed for the Tuesday after the tournament finishes. I don't know if you permit that!
Cheers!

lost
22-11-2009, 01:34 PM
Hi Jaime, in a discussion with Frank we have agreed that we can have our game postponed for the Tuesday after the tournament finishes. I don't know if you permit that!
Cheers!

But for FIDE rating purposes Elliott, we will not be able to have this rated for the January list as it will be too late.

That's why I have made this decision to do it like this.

lost

ER
22-11-2009, 06:40 PM
ok whatever you say chief, I just had to bring it into your attention! The way you arranged it looks logical and sound thanks! Cheers

Lekko
22-11-2009, 07:41 PM
But for FIDE rating purposes Elliott, we will not be able to have this rated for the January list as it will be too late.

That's why I have made this decision to do it like this.

lost
Good idea Jamie. When are you free to play our game?

ER
22-11-2009, 09:14 PM
Is this question to Jaime or to me?

lost
22-11-2009, 09:52 PM
Is this question to Jaime or to me?

This question is for me Elliott and more to the point Frank, when are you free. Just can't play on Thursday night's that's all.

lost

ER
22-11-2009, 09:59 PM
oh ok thanks mate! :)

lost
23-11-2009, 01:47 PM
The postponed game from round 2 between Carl Gorka vs Jamie Kenmure will be played tonight at MCC.

Also remember tomorrow night games start at 7.30PM. As they say, be there or be square.

The result between Carl Gorka v Jamie Kenmue was a win for Carl Gorka.

lost

lost
24-11-2009, 11:25 PM
The results for tonights games are:

Tristan Rayson-Hill 0 1 Elliott Renzies
Michael Tanner 1 0 Michael Addamo
Elizabeth Warren 0 1 Carl Gorka

The game between Frank Lekkas and Jamie Kenmure has being postponed and will be played during the week!!

lost

ER
24-11-2009, 11:49 PM
Here is the game Jamie:

PHOENIX FIDE INVITATIONAL
Site: MELBOURNE CHESS CLUB
Date: Tues 24/11/09
Round: 3
White: Tristan Rayson - Hill
Black: Elliott Renzies
Result: 0-1

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. Bg5 Bg7 4. Nbd2 d5 5. e3 O-O 6. Bd3 Nbd7 7. Ne5
Nxe5 8. dxe5 Ng4 9. Bf4 Nxe5 10. Bxe5 Bxe5 11. c3 c5 12. Nf3 Bg7 13. O-O e5 14. Rc1 e4 15. Bb5 exf3 16. Qxf3 Qb6 17. Qe2 Bf5 18. a4 c4 19. Qf3 Be4 20. Qg3 Rad8 21. Qh3 f5 22. f3 Bd3 23. Rf2 Qxe3 24. Ra1 a6 25. Qh4 axb5 26. axb5 Rfe8 27. g3 d4 28. Ra7 dxc3 29. Rxb7 cxb2 30. Kg2 Qxf2+ 31. Kxf2 Re2

0-1

Carl Gorka
25-11-2009, 08:27 AM
For Elliott following our first round game, a game in the same dodgy line played by the great Victor Korchnoi.

Event: EU-chT Seniors
Site: Dresden
Date: 2006.02.22
Round: 6
White: Boehnisch, Manfred
Black: Kortschnoj, Viktor
Result: 0-1
ECO: C48
WhiteElo: 2372
BlackElo: 2608
PlyCount: 58
EventDate: 2006.02.17
EventRounds: 8
EventCountry: GER
Source: ChessBase
SourceDate: 2006.05.09
WhiteTeam: Leipzig
BlackTeam: Switzerland
WhiteTeamCountry: GER
BlackTeamCountry: SUI

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bb5 Bd6 5. a4 O-O 6. d3 Re8 7. Bc4 h6 8. g4
Bb4 9. g5 d5 10. exd5 Nd4 11. h3 Nxd5 12. Bd2 Nf4 13. Bxf4 exf4+ 14. Kf1 Bxc3
15. bxc3 Nxf3 16. Qxf3 Qxg5 17. Rb1 c6 18. h4 Qf6 19. a5 Rb8 20. d4 Bf5 21. Bd3
Be6 22. Qh5 b6 23. axb6 axb6 24. f3 Rbd8 25. Be4 c5 26. Kf2 cxd4 27. Rxb6 dxc3
28. Qc5 Rd2+ 29. Ke1 Qd8 0-1

ER
25-11-2009, 05:05 PM
That's fantastic Carl thanks for this info!!!:clap:

Mtanner
25-11-2009, 07:42 PM
Carl, what other nights are you available? Because i will most likely need a posteponement for our round 4 match, due to the fact that i have an interschool national chess tournemant over monday and tuesday down at monash university, and even if i do get back in time i doubt ill be ok to play. Sorry :(

Carl Gorka
25-11-2009, 09:17 PM
Carl, what other nights are you available? Because i will most likely need a posteponement for our round 4 match, due to the fact that i have an interschool national chess tournemant over monday and tuesday down at monash university, and even if i do get back in time i doubt ill be ok to play. Sorry :(

No worries Michael, I'll be at the chesskids national interschool finals as well, so we can discuss it then.:)

mikesguns
26-11-2009, 06:19 AM
Carl, what other nights are you available? Because i will most likely need a posteponement for our round 4 match, due to the fact that i have an interschool national chess tournemant over monday and tuesday down at monash university, and even if i do get back in time i doubt ill be ok to play. Sorry :(

I'm playing Carl next Tuesday for Round 4 because we switched round 3 and 4. Tanner, you are playing Carl in Round 5. I will also be at the Chess Kids Nationals, so we will talk there with Carl

Mtanner
26-11-2009, 07:07 AM
Ah right, my mistake...Is there a draw anywhere so i can know who i'm playing?

ER
26-11-2009, 08:36 AM
Here you are Michael! Jamie had published this in post #96 of this thread!


No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0] : Warren, Elizabeth [0]
2 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0] 0:1 Tanner, Michael 1070 [0]
3 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0] 0:1 Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0]
4 Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0] .5:.5 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Warren, Elizabeth [0] 0:1 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0]
2 Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0] : Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0]
3 Tanner, Michael 1070 [0] 1:0 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0]
4 Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0] 1:0 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0] : Warren, Elizabeth [0]
2 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0] : Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0]
3 Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0] : Tanner, Michael 1070 [0]
4 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0] : Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Warren, Elizabeth [0] : Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0]
2 Tanner, Michael 1070 [0] : Addamo, Michael 1144 [0]
3 Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0] : Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0]
4 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0] : Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0] : Warren, Elizabeth [0]
2 Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0] : Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0]
3 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0] : Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0]
4 Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0] : Tanner, Michael 1070 [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Warren, Elizabeth [0] : Tanner, Michael 1070 [0]
2 Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0] : Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0]
3 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0] : Addamo, Michael 1144 [0]
4 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0] : Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0] : Warren, Elizabeth [0]
2 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0] : Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0]
3 Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0] : Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0]
4 Tanner, Michael 1070 [0] : Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0]

Mtanner
26-11-2009, 06:40 PM
Thanks Justaknight! So, Jamie, are there any other nights you are available to play?

lost
26-11-2009, 11:30 PM
Thanks Justaknight! So, Jamie, are there any other nights you are available to play?

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0] : Warren, Elizabeth [0]
2 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0] 0:1 Tanner, Michael 1070 [0]
3 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0] 0:1 Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0]
4 Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0] .5:.5 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Warren, Elizabeth [0] 0:1 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0]
2 Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0] : Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0]
3 Tanner, Michael 1070 [0] 1:0 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0]
4 Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0] 1:0 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0] : Warren, Elizabeth [0]
2 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0] : Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0]
3 Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0] : Tanner, Michael 1070 [0]
4 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0] : Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Warren, Elizabeth [0] 0:1 Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0]
2 Tanner, Michael 1070 [0] 1:0 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0]
3 Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0] : Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0]
4 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0] 0:1 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0] : Warren, Elizabeth [0]
2 Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0] : Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0]
3 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0] : Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0]
4 Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0] : Tanner, Michael 1070 [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Warren, Elizabeth [0] : Tanner, Michael 1070 [0]
2 Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0] : Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0]
3 Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0] : Addamo, Michael 1144 [0]
4 Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0] : Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0]

No Name Rtg Loc Total Result Name Rtg Loc Total
1 Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 [0] : Warren, Elizabeth [0]
2 Addamo, Michael 1144 [0] : Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 [0]
3 Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 [0] : Rayson-Hill, Tristan [0]
4 Tanner, Michael 1070 [0] : Lekkas, Frank 1375 [0]


Mtanner, do you require a postponement? If so, I can play you this saturday at 3PM?

Does this suit you?

lost

Mtanner
29-11-2009, 08:31 AM
Saturday November 6? And yes, i do require a postponement sorry, and i couldn't have played yesterday sorry. I can play this Thursday, and anytime this weekend.

Rhubarb
29-11-2009, 05:27 PM
After this tournament will everyone have 7 FIDE rated games as it is a round robin and at least a third of the players are FIDE rated?
Actually according to the FIDE Handbook
6.31 If the event has less than 10 players, at least 4 must be rated.
Maybe not
Any other opinions?
Hi maddam12,

You are quoting the correct regulation and for your information and the other players, this is exactly why this event cannot and will not be FIDE rated.

As you would know, most of this thread has been about Carl doing his best efforts to find the requisite number of FIDE-rated players.

I also expressly told Jamie Kenmure in a PM dated November 15 that this event cannot be FIDE-rated. It's therefore quite astonishing that Jamie would post on November 22:


I am looking into this and working with Gary Bekker on this matter as we both believe that it is a third of the field, which we do have.

Jamie, what do you not understand about regulation 6.31? What do you not understand in my PM to you? What do you "believe" you have to discuss with Gary Bekker?

Perhaps you should invite Michael Baron into your discussions as well so you can have a real meeting of the minds.

Greg Canfell
FIDE Ratings Officer
Australian Chess Federation

MichaelBaron
29-11-2009, 10:12 PM
Hi maddam12,

You are quoting the correct regulation and for your information and the other players, this is exactly why this event cannot and will not be FIDE rated.

As you would know, most of this thread has been about Carl doing his best efforts to find the requisite number of FIDE-rated players.

I also expressly told Jamie Kenmure in a PM dated November 15 that this event cannot be FIDE-rated. It's therefore quite astonishing that Jamie would post on November 22:


Jamie, what do you not understand about regulation 6.31? What do you not understand in my PM to you? What do you "believe" you have to discuss with Gary Bekker?

Perhaps you should invite Michael Baron into your discussions as well so you can have a real meeting of the minds.

Greg Canfell
FIDE Ratings Officer
Australian Chess Federation

Michael Baron is now going to invite himself to this discussion.

1) Gary Bekker is in my opinion Australia's top expert on Fide rules and regulations. Therefore, asking his opinion is always a good idea in such matters.
2) If one more Fide-rated player is required....one possible option could be find a Fide rated player to join the tournament now and bring the number of fide-rated participants to 4. In round-robins, ''catch-ups'' are not illegal.
3) Jamie and myself can have a meeting of minds whenever we feel like it...as both of us got a mind! It is only people without a mind that it is hard to have a meeting of minds with :)

queenant89
29-11-2009, 10:41 PM
Michael Baron is now going to invite himself to this discussion.

1) Gary Bekker is in my opinion Australia's top expert on Fide rules and regulations. Therefore, asking his opinion is always a good idea in such matters.
2) If one more Fide-rated player is required....one possible option could be find a Fide rated player to join the tournament now and bring the number of fide-rated participants to 4. In round-robins, ''catch-ups'' are not illegal.
3) Jamie and myself can have a meeting of minds whenever we feel like it...as both of us got a mind! It is only people without a mind that it is hard to have a meeting of minds with :)

I know this is going to come back to bite me, however if this is realli wanted to be fide rated, i am offering to play, however i cannot commit to Tuesdays nights at all, but i can play on Mondays or Wednesdays (b4 endgame group if needed).....

However this is only if this is desperately wanted to be fide rated, and no other player can found to play on tuesday nights (as this avoids any disruptions...)

Bereaved
29-11-2009, 10:43 PM
slow night at work? joking

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

in regards to the post though, it could be worked for most of the players I imagine, but not 100% on all of them

lost
29-11-2009, 11:05 PM
Hi maddam12,

You are quoting the correct regulation and for your information and the other players, this is exactly why this event cannot and will not be FIDE rated.

As you would know, most of this thread has been about Carl doing his best efforts to find the requisite number of FIDE-rated players.

I also expressly told Jamie Kenmure in a PM dated November 15 that this event cannot be FIDE-rated. It's therefore quite astonishing that Jamie would post on November 22:


Jamie, what do you not understand about regulation 6.31? What do you not understand in my PM to you? What do you "believe" you have to discuss with Gary Bekker?

Perhaps you should invite Michael Baron into your discussions as well so you can have a real meeting of the minds.

Greg Canfell
FIDE Ratings Officer
Australian Chess Federation

Shirty,

Gary Bekker has old me this and thus we are going to find another player to join the field.

lost

MichaelBaron
29-11-2009, 11:06 PM
I too can play if necessary, but again - some postponements may be required and to be honest...I do not want to play in it very much..so if Sarah is willing to play - that would be a perfect solution. Lets make sure that the event is fide-rated as promised.

queenant89
29-11-2009, 11:21 PM
lol slow night... not realli im being lazy... ooops did a i say that...

im willing to play... its all good.... as long as all the players are aware of the fact my games would be on other nights.. the tournament could still finish on time....

lost
29-11-2009, 11:28 PM
lol slow night... not realli im being lazy... ooops did a i say that...

im willing to play... its all good.... as long as all the players are aware of the fact my games would be on other nights.. the tournament could still finish on time....

Sarah, I will speak to Carl about this and get about to you on this!!

lost

Bereaved
29-11-2009, 11:32 PM
lol slow night... not realli im being lazy... ooops did a i say that...

im willing to play... its all good.... as long as all the players are aware of the fact my games would be on other nights.. the tournament could still finish on time....

Didn't hear anything about you being lazy:whistle: will let you know if I do.....not on fb?, or is that too distracting?

I will leave the rest of the issue in the competent hands of the Secretary, even though his was not the very best striped shirt on the night.... ( injoke):owned:

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

ER
30-11-2009, 12:29 AM
To all those who think that this is a "c'mon let's have some fun" or "you 're out, I am in, then you 're in again" tournament.
It's not!
I entered it because
1) I thought it was a serious FIDE rated tournament
2) Tuesday is the only night of the week that I can play Chess and the 7.30 pm start is perfect for me (I stated that from the beginning)!
3) I have an opportunity to play at MCC which is a honour in itself considering playing against stronger players and being adviced by people like Carl, Michael, Grant, Elie and other members...
Now I made it clear from the beginning that I can only play on Tuesdays with only one extra Tuesday, if need be for postponed games after the end of the tournament.
I don't have the time to play additional rounds because I have to start preparing for my US trip.
So can I have a definite answesr please! Is this a FIDE rated tournament or not? Is it going to continue or not? If it's going to continue as a FIDE tournament I am in it. If not, I am out of it!

queenant89
30-11-2009, 10:10 AM
To all those who think that this is a "c'mon let's have some fun" or "you 're out, I am in, then you 're in again" tournament.
It's not!

Im assuming your use of words is directed personally at me. So let me explain, I was already committed to playing very competitive baseball and been training since September (preseason), When I returned from O/S, unbeknowns to my knowledge; the baseball practices had been shifted for the Women's team to Tuesday nights. Although I was looking forward to playing this tournament, the Baseball trumped Chess (as regulation for team, train u play, miss ur out). I withdraw because I could no longer play, and didnt want any disruptions, and gave someone else the opportunity to play.



I entered it because
1) I thought it was a serious FIDE rated tournament

As far as i can see, this tournament has been ran like a serious FIDE tournament, and there is no reason to believe otherwise.... It has just come to life that... Actually according to the FIDE Handbook
6.31 If the event has less than 10 players, at least 4 must be rated.
And this event is one short of FIDE rated player. I have offered to join and play on other nights, so that this could be FIDE rated.. as this adds to 9 players, 4 rated/5 unrated...; And playing on other nights doesnt disrupt the draw, but i was only offering to play so that IS CAN BE FIDE RATED, and only if no other player can be found.




2) Tuesday is the only night of the week that I can play Chess and the 7.30 pm start is perfect for me (I stated that from the beginning)! 3) I have an opportunity to play at MCC which is a honour in itself considering playing against stronger players and being adviced by people like Carl, Michael, Grant, Elie and other members...

Are you saying that I have no honour for this club... or no honour playing for this club? I work hard with Grant and Carl on various tournament ideas and other things. I value MCC very highly and to think otherwise, is highly offensive.


Now I made it clear from the beginning that I can only play on Tuesdays with only one extra Tuesday, if need be for postponed games after the end of the tournament.
I don't have the time to play additional rounds because I have to start preparing for my US trip.
So can I have a definite answesr please! Is this a FIDE rated tournament or not? Is it going to continue or not? If it's going to continue as a FIDE tournament I am in it. If not, I am out of it!

take to lost...

Lastly, if u want to direct comments to me in the future in what ever fashion, do it directly, and state your mind. Dont beat around the bush...

that Caesar guy
30-11-2009, 10:21 AM
I will leave the rest of the issue in the competent hands of the Secretary, even though his was not the very best striped shirt on the night.... ( injoke):owned:

Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe :D :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol:

Watto
30-11-2009, 10:47 AM
Im assuming your use of words is directed personally at me. ...

As far as i can see, this tournament has been ran like a serious FIDE tournament, and there is no reason to believe otherwise.... It has just come to life that... Actually according to the FIDE Handbook
6.31 If the event has less than 10 players, at least 4 must be rated.
And this event is one short of FIDE rated player.
Hi Sarah. A belated welcome back to Oz. :) I donít think that JAK was having a go at you. My guess is that heís frustrated by the latest developments and having a go at the organisation and communication relating to this tournament. But Iíll leave that up to him to clarifyÖ

The FIDE regulation hasnít just come to light. Itís been definitely known by the organisers for at least two weeks. I donít mean to be too critical as it seems like this oneís been a particularly difficult one to organise with players entering and withdrawing butÖ if a tournament is advertised as a norms tournament or is going to be FIDE rated (or whatever the goal is), surely the requirements should be worked out well in advance (prior to advertising the fact) so thatís itís clear what the regulation is and all the players can rest assured itís being met Ö so intelligent juniors donít have to go around picking up on problems. I must admit I don't blame JaK for feeling frustrated.

ER
30-11-2009, 12:18 PM
Im assuming your use of words is directed personally at me. So let me explain, I was already committed to playing very competitive baseball and been training since September (preseason), When I returned from O/S, unbeknowns to my knowledge; the baseball practices had been shifted for the Women's team to Tuesday nights. Although I was looking forward to playing this tournament, the Baseball trumped Chess (as regulation for team, train u play, miss ur out). I withdraw because I could no longer play, and didnt want any disruptions, and gave someone else the opportunity to play.




As far as i can see, this tournament has been ran like a serious FIDE tournament, and there is no reason to believe otherwise.... It has just come to life that... Actually according to the FIDE Handbook
6.31 If the event has less than 10 players, at least 4 must be rated.
And this event is one short of FIDE rated player. I have offered to join and play on other nights, so that this could be FIDE rated.. as this adds to 9 players, 4 rated/5 unrated...; And playing on other nights doesnt disrupt the draw, but i was only offering to play so that IS CAN BE FIDE RATED, and only if no other player can be found.





Are you saying that I have no honour for this club... or no honour playing for this club? I work hard with Grant and Carl on various tournament ideas and other things. I value MCC very highly and to think otherwise, is highly offensive.



take to lost...

Lastly, if u want to direct comments to me in the future in what ever fashion, do it directly, and state your mind. Dont beat around the bush...

None of the above is directed at you Sarah! Actually it's good that you are offering to play! I am talking about myself and my tight schedule. I haven't read the whole of your arguement, since I am very busy right now, I will come back to it later! :)
And Jean thanks for your input too! :)

Bereaved
30-11-2009, 03:08 PM
None of the above is directed at you Sarah! Actually it's good that you are offering to play! I am talking about myself and my tight schedule. I haven't read the whole of your arguement, since I am very busy right now, I will come back to it later! :)
And Jean thanks for your imput too! :)

Congratulations JAK on a good response. I am sure that Sarah will feel better about the whole adventure after this

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

MichaelBaron
30-11-2009, 05:00 PM
Congratulations JAK on a good response. I am sure that Sarah will feel better about the whole adventure after this

Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Do not worry, Mac. I know you worry, but do not worry.
We will not hurt Sarah :)

ER
30-11-2009, 10:13 PM
Hi Sarah


To all those who think that this is a "c'mon let's have some fun" or "you 're out, I am in, then you 're in again" tournament.

I wasn't referring to you here, if you look at the history of this tournament from the first posting in this thread to present you will find at least four cases of "now I play, now I don't" cases! I was also referring to postponments of its starting and other situations which exhibit the organisers' agonising efforts to start it on time or as close to it as possible!

You say


Im assuming your use of words is directed personally at me.

Far from the truth, although looking at the tone of my original now, I understand that it leaves ground for misunderstanding. Under no circumstances it was my intention to engage in a personal attack against your person!

I say

1) I thought it was a serious FIDE rated tournament

You say


As far as i can see, this tournament has been ran like a serious FIDE tournament, and there is no reason to believe otherwise

Greg says


this is exactly why this event cannot and will not be FIDE rated.

In this one I take Greg's word for it! I have absolute respect for his judgment!



3) I have an opportunity to play at MCC which is a honour in itself considering playing against stronger players and being adviced by people like Carl, Michael, Grant, Elie and other members...

I was talking about myself here! I definitely did not imply that you or anyone else who for reason a or b wasn't able to partake or who didn't want to partake has no honour. If you only knew the frustration I feel not being able to play chess at MCC due to my work scheduling. But I digress! So in your


Are you saying that I have no honour for this club...

the answer is definitely NO!


or no honour playing for this club?

the answer again is definitely NO!



I work hard with Grant and Carl on various tournament ideas and other things.

I know and I :clap: you for it!


I value MCC very highly and to think otherwise, is highly offensive.

I know you value MCC highly and I definitely do not think or suggest otherwise!



So let me explain, I was already committed to playing very competitive baseball and been training since September (preseason), When I returned from O/S, unbeknowns to my knowledge; the baseball practices had been shifted for the Women's team to Tuesday nights. Although I was looking forward to playing this tournament, the Baseball trumped Chess (as regulation for team, train u play, miss ur out). I withdraw because I could no longer play, and didnt want any disruptions, and gave someone else the opportunity to play.

I did not know you were a baseball player! Let us know when you play so I can come and barrack for you and the team! (I am loud!) Your informing the organisers from the beginning was appreciated by me!


.... It has just come to life that... Actually according to the FIDE Handbook
6.31 If the event has less than 10 players, at least 4 must be rated.
And this event is one short of FIDE rated player. I have offered to join and play on other nights, so that this could be FIDE rated.. as this adds to 9 players, 4 rated/5 unrated...; And playing on other nights doesnt disrupt the draw, but i was only offering to play so that IS CAN BE FIDE RATED, and only if no other player can be found.

As I stated in the previous brief post, your willingness to play is welcomed by me!


Lastly, if u want to direct comments to me in the future in what ever fashion, do it directly, and state your mind. Dont beat around the bush...

I believe that whenever I have spoken to you either in real life or in here, I was, and will always be direct and stating my mind (remember the brownies?) beating around the bush isn't my style! I don't claim absolute innocence or anything, on the contrary I have cought myself being silly more than once, but in regards to what I feel about you, there is only one word to describe it and that's RESPECT!



Congratulations JAK on a good response. I am sure that Sarah will feel better about the whole adventure after this
Take care and God Bless, Macavity

Thanks Malcolm, that means a lot to me! :) God Bless too!


Do not worry, Mac. I know you worry, but do not worry.
We will not hurt Sarah

Michael, you be quiet! :P

ER
01-12-2009, 12:42 PM
Now, back to the Tournament...
Is it FIDE rated or not?

Bill Gletsos
01-12-2009, 01:06 PM
Now, back to the Tournament...
Is it FIDE rated or not?As Greg Canfell pointed out, in its current format with 8 players and only 3 of them with FIDE ratings it cannot be FIDE rated.

SHump
01-12-2009, 02:28 PM
As Greg Canfell pointed out, in its current format with 8 players and only 3 of them with FIDE ratings it cannot be FIDE rated.
And as I read from the very informative Ian Rout 'about the ratings' (appendix 2: getting a FIDE rating) page (http://www.ianandjan.com/ian/ratings/):
"A round robin tournament is only considered to be a round robin for rating purposes if all games are played. If there is even one forfeit or cancelled game the event is treated as a Swiss. Bringing in a substitute to finish the games of a withdrawer isn't a solution, the two players are both considered to have unplayed games. At least one-third of the players (rounded up), with a minimum of four, must be rated..."

and so it is tough once subs are made.

ER
01-12-2009, 02:36 PM
thanks Bill and SHump, for me even with the sub solution, it's not only hard but impossible because I can't play any other nights except Tuesdays and I can't extend my playing Tuesdays more than only one Tuesday after the end of the tournament... :(

Lekko
01-12-2009, 03:02 PM
Sarah told me she was the 9th player? Did I misunderstand?

Bill Gletsos
01-12-2009, 03:11 PM
Sarah told me she was the 9th player? Did I misunderstand?From the posts on this thread Sarah offered and yesterday the arbiter (Jamie) has said he will discuss it with the organiser (Carl).

No decision has as yet been announced here.

queenant89
01-12-2009, 03:22 PM
Hey JAk,
I think i was having an awful day, and read too much into ur post. In regards if i do play, can we arrange a game on a tuesday after 8/830pm???

Id just like to see this tournament FIDE rated...

Ian Rout
01-12-2009, 03:23 PM
And as I read from the very informative Ian Rout 'about the ratings' (appendix 2: getting a FIDE rating) page (http://www.ianandjan.com/ian/ratings/):

and so it is tough once subs are made.
Adding a new player who plays everybody possibly isn't strictly speaking a sub, though Gary or Greg would have a better idea. But I understand tournaments have to be registered as FIDE-rated in advance, which presumably hasn't been done here.

ER
01-12-2009, 03:26 PM
Hey JAk,
I think i was having an awful day, and read too much into ur post. In regards if i do play, can we arrange a game on a tuesday after 8/830pm???

Id just like to see this tournament FIDE rated...


Hi Sarah, no worries about it, my tone and style wasn't the best either! Now, to business, I am frantically trying to negotiate arrangements with my employer to see what can be done in regards to my schedule! I will see you tonight at the Club!

Bill Gletsos
01-12-2009, 03:31 PM
Adding a new player who plays everybody possibly isn't strictly speaking a sub, though Gary or Greg would have a better idea. But I understand tournaments have to be registered as FIDE-rated in advance, which presumably hasn't been done here.The FIDE website does not show the event as registered.


0.4 The tournaments to be rated must be pre-registered by the federation that will be responsible for the sending of results and rating fees. The tournament must be registered one month before the tournament starts. The Qualification Commission Chairman may refuse to register an event. Also he may allow an event to be rated which has been registered less than one month before the tournament starts.There appears to be no regulation that allows for an event to be registered once it has actually started.

Lekko
01-12-2009, 04:01 PM
Hi Sarah, no worries about it, my tone and style wasn't the best either! Now, to business, I am frantically trying to negotiate arrangements with my employer to see what can be done in regards to my schedule! I will see you tonight at the Club!
Are we playing tonight?

Mtanner
01-12-2009, 05:48 PM
Jamie, can i just confirm, we're playing at 4pm this Sunday?

lost
01-12-2009, 10:51 PM
Jamie, can i just confirm, we're playing at 4pm this Sunday?

Yes confirmed.

lost

lost
01-12-2009, 10:59 PM
From the posts on this thread Sarah offered and yesterday the arbiter (Jamie) has said he will discuss it with the organiser (Carl).

No decision has as yet been announced here.

Sarah is playing and im just arranging the game between Elliott and Sarah as Elliott can only play on Tuesday nights!

lost

Bill Gletsos
01-12-2009, 11:25 PM
Sarah is playing and im just arranging the game between Elliott and Sarah as Elliott can only play on Tuesday nights!This appears to be totally irrelevant as the event has not been pre-registered with FIDE in accordance with FIDe regulations and as such cannot be FIDE rated.

lost
01-12-2009, 11:44 PM
This appears to be totally irrelevant as the event has not been pre-registered with FIDE in accordance with FIDe regulations and as such cannot be FIDE rated.

Hi Bill,

Have spoken to Shirty about this. He is going to try and register for January but if not for March though.

Here is the results for tonights games.
Tristan Rayson-Hill 1 0 Elizabeth Warren
Elliott Renzies 0 1 Frank Lekkas


lost

Bill Gletsos
01-12-2009, 11:59 PM
Hi Bill,

Have spoken to Shirty about this. He is going to try and register for January but if not for March though.But the event has already started. As such how does registering it now for January (or even March) meet FIDE's pre-registration requirement.

Rhubarb
02-12-2009, 12:10 AM
But the event has already started. As such how does registering it now for January (or even March) meet FIDE's pre-registration requirement.
It doesn't. I have registered it now and I will ask FIDE if they will rate it - if they uphold their own regulations they will refuse to rate it.

Lekko
02-12-2009, 12:20 AM
It doesn't. I have registered it now and I will ask FIDE if they will rate it - if they uphold their own regulations they will refuse to rate it.
Hopefully they don't uphold their regulations. Fingers are crossed.

ER
02-12-2009, 11:47 AM
Hopefully they don't uphold their regulations. Fingers are crossed.
And hopefully they do it in a hurry! Fingers crossed here too! :)

lost
02-12-2009, 08:04 PM
And hopefully they do it in a hurry! Fingers crossed here too! :)

Hi guys the result between Frank Lekkas v Jamie Kenmure was 1-0

lost

Lekko
02-12-2009, 09:41 PM
Hi guys the result between Frank Lekkas v Jamie Kenmure was 1-0

lost
Good game, well fought by both sides :)

Lost, who won out of you and carl?

MichaelBaron
03-12-2009, 08:37 AM
Lost, who won out of you and carl?
Shall I guess? :doh: :doh:

lost
03-12-2009, 09:41 AM
Good game, well fought by both sides :)

Lost, who won out of you and carl?

Carl did.

lost

Lekko
03-12-2009, 11:38 AM
Shall I guess? :doh: :doh:
That wouldn't have been fair on either player (depending on who you'd pick to have won ;))

Garvinator
03-12-2009, 12:46 PM
Lost, are you playing in the tournament and also being the Chief arbiter for the event?

lost
03-12-2009, 09:09 PM
Lost, are you playing in the tournament and also being the Chief arbiter for the event?

Yes garvinator I am playing in the event and am Chief Arbiter. Let me make it clear though, shall my opponent have to appeal against anything, I have already appointed Carl as the arbiter to step in to solve the issue.

lost

Garvinator
03-12-2009, 11:54 PM
Yes garvinator I am playing in the event and am Chief Arbiter. Let me make it clear though, shall my opponent have to appeal against anything, I have already appointed Carl as the arbiter to step in to solve the issue.

lost
My question was more about whether Fide would rate an event where the CA played in the event.

lost
06-12-2009, 10:44 PM
My question was more about whether Fide would rate an event where the CA played in the event.

The result between Jamie Kenmure v Michael Tanner was 1 0

lost

lost
09-12-2009, 12:18 AM
The result between Jamie Kenmure v Michael Tanner was 1 0

lost

Here are round 5 results for tonight:

Elliott Renzies v Elizabeth Warren draw
Jamie Kenmure v Tristan Rayson Hill 1 0
Michael Addamo v Frank Lekkas 0 1
Carl Gorka v Michael Tanner 1 0

lost

Lekko
09-12-2009, 12:33 PM
Can you post a crosstable up to this point?

lost
09-12-2009, 01:57 PM
Can you post a crosstable up to this point?




No Name Feder Rtg Loc 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

1. Lekkas, Frank 1375 * W W W W W
2. Rayson-Hill, Tristan L * L L L W
3. Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 L W * L L D
4. Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 L W * D L W
5. Addamo, Michael 1144 L D * L W
6. Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 W W * W W
7. Tanner, Michael 1070 W W L W L *
8. Warren, Elizabeth L L D L L *
9. Anton, Sarah 1820 1681 *



There is the current crosstable for the tournament. Have you spoken to Sarah?

lost

queenant89
09-12-2009, 09:25 PM
Elizabeth Warran- Sarah Anton 0-1

lost
14-12-2009, 07:20 PM
Elizabeth Warran- Sarah Anton 0-1

Jamie Kenmure v Sarah Anton 0 1

lost

Basil
14-12-2009, 09:01 PM
Jamie Kenmure v Sarah Anton 0 1

lost
Manchester United v Sarah Anton 0-1

lost
14-12-2009, 09:22 PM
Manchester United v Sarah Anton 0-1


Where did Manchester United come into this?

lost

Lekko
15-12-2009, 12:01 AM
Where did Manchester United come into this?

lost
Jamie, in your game, in the position you resigned in, look at Qf8!! and tell me why you resigned in a position where you had mate in two.

MichaelBaron
15-12-2009, 12:35 AM
Jamie, in your game, in the position you resigned in, look at Qf8!! and tell me why you resigned in a position where you had mate in two.
Post the game here pls

Lekko
15-12-2009, 01:25 AM
Ask Jamie or Sarah, I don't have it.

that Caesar guy
15-12-2009, 09:40 AM
Manchester United v Sarah Anton 0-1
I like it. I like it very much. :D

JM

mikesguns
15-12-2009, 09:42 PM
Results so far from tonight
Elizabeth Warren 0-1 Michael Tanner
Tristan Rayson-Hill 0-1 Michael Addamo
Elliot Renzies 0-1 Jamie Kenmure
The game between Frank Lekkas and Carl Corka is still going. It has been a good game

Lekko
15-12-2009, 10:59 PM
Results so far from tonight
Elizabeth Warren 0-1 Michael Tanner
Tristan Rayson-Hill 0-1 Michael Addamo
Elliot Renzies 0-1 Jamie Kenmure
Frank Lekkas 0-1 Carl Gorka

Carl Gorka
16-12-2009, 09:05 AM
I will be playing my postponed game with Michael Addamo on Monday 21st December at 1pm.

mikesguns
16-12-2009, 09:29 AM
Standings so far
Carl Gorka 5/5
Frank Lekkas 5/6
Michael Tanner 4/6
Jamie Kenmure 3.5/7
Sarah Anton 3/3
Michael Addamo 2.5/5
Elliot Renzies 1.5/6
Tristan Rayson-Hill 1/7
Elizabeth Warren 0.5/7
Its good to see that everyone has got at least a win or draw

lost
16-12-2009, 11:04 AM
Standings so far
Carl Gorka 5/5
Frank Lekkas 5/6
Michael Tanner 4/6
Jamie Kenmure 3.5/7
Sarah Anton 3/3
Michael Addamo 2.5/5
Elliot Renzies 1.5/6
Tristan Rayson-Hill 1/7
Elizabeth Warren 0.5/7
Its good to see that everyone has got at least a win or draw

I was just about to post last night games up, but thank you Frank and Michael for doing this.

See you guys on Saturday!

lost

Rhubarb
20-12-2009, 01:30 AM
Hi All,

I'm not sure of the current status of games, but my understanding was that when this tournament was made FIDE-rateable, players would schedule their games to be finished by the registered finishing date of December 22.

Can I have an update please.

Regards,
Greg Canfell

Carl Gorka
20-12-2009, 05:21 PM
Hi All,

I'm not sure of the current status of games, but my understanding was that when this tournament was made FIDE-rateable, players would schedule their games to be finished by the registered finishing date of December 22.

Can I have an update please.

Regards,
Greg Canfell

Much will depend on Sarah's scheduling, which I'm not up to date with myself. As far as I know, everyone else is due to finish on time.

Carl

mikesguns
21-12-2009, 04:30 PM
The result of the game i played today was
Michael Addamo 0-1 Carl Gorka

lost
22-12-2009, 11:53 PM
The result of the game i played today was
Michael Addamo 0-1 Carl Gorka


Results for tonights games:

Jamie Kenmure v Elizabeth Warren 1 0
Michael Addamo v Elliott Renzies draw
Carl Gorka v Tristan Rayson-Hill 1 0
Michael Tanner v Frank Lekkas 0 1

lost

Lekko
23-12-2009, 01:57 PM
Crosstable please?

lost
24-12-2009, 05:11 PM
Here is the crosstable for the tournament.




No Name Feder Rtg Loc 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

1. Lekkas, Frank 1375 * W W W W L W W
2. Rayson-Hill, Tristan L * L L L L L W L
3. Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 L W * L D L L D +
4. Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 L W W * D L W W L
5. Addamo, Michael 1144 L W D D * L L W
6. Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 W W W W W * W W
7. Tanner, Michael 1070 L W W L W L * W
8. Warren, Elizabeth L L D L L L L * L
9. Anton, Sarah 1790 1681 W - W W *



We are just waiting on some games from Sarah!!!

lost

Lekko
24-12-2009, 08:08 PM
Here is the crosstable for the tournament.




No Name Feder Rtg Loc 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

1. Lekkas, Frank 1375 * W W W W L W
2. Rayson-Hill, Tristan L * L L L L W L
3. Renzies, Elliott 1661 1353 L W * L L L D +
4. Kenmure, Jamie 1812 1331 L W W * D L W L
5. Addamo, Michael 1144 L W D * L L W
6. Gorka, Carl 2195 2055 W W W W * W W
7. Tanner, Michael 1070 W W L W L * W
8. Warren, Elizabeth L L D L L L * L
9. Anton, Sarah 1790 1681 W - W W *




We are just waiting on some games from Sarah!!!

lost
That doesn't include the last round's games.

lost
24-12-2009, 09:03 PM
I have just updated the crosstable now!!

lost

mikesguns
24-12-2009, 09:21 PM
I wonder when the games will be played with Sarah Anton. I'm not free for the rest of this year

Lekko
24-12-2009, 10:37 PM
I wonder when the games will be played with Sarah Anton. I'm not free for the rest of this year
I need to schedule my game again with her. Send her a pm and ask her :)

mikesguns
25-12-2009, 07:51 AM
Shirty has stated that
The Phoenix Invitational will not be finished in time for the Jan 2010 list. It will be automatically shifted to the March list in the next few days. Also, if it is not fully completed by January 5 (the two-week deadline) it will be deregistered as it will not be FIDE-rateable unless all games are completed.
Thanks

MichaelBaron
25-12-2009, 08:38 AM
Guys, since most of you are on holidays now - hopefully you will be able to finish all the games quickly.

Lekko
05-01-2010, 11:34 PM
So what's happened? Everyone's ignoring this now? :\

Carl Gorka
05-01-2010, 11:40 PM
It will not be FIDE rated and Sarah's results will be taken out the tournament as she's played less than half the games....AFAIK.

Sorry but there is nothing else that can be done. The tournament was arranged in a shoddy fashion and we are all paying the price for that now. It will be a mistake that will not happen again at the MCC regarding tournaments under my direction.

Lekko
06-01-2010, 01:02 AM
It will not be FIDE rated and Sarah's results will be taken out the tournament as she's played less than half the games....AFAIK.

Sorry but there is nothing else that can be done. The tournament was arranged in a shoddy fashion and we are all paying the price for that now. It will be a mistake that will not happen again at the MCC regarding tournaments under my direction.
Addamo has a rating now, can you just use that rating for the fourth?

MichaelBaron
06-01-2010, 08:50 AM
May be the following can be done: Tournament registered with Fide as a completely new event that has started this year with all the result automatically transferred to the new cross-table.

Bill Gletsos
06-01-2010, 10:32 AM
May be the following can be done: Tournament registered with Fide as a completely new event that has started this year with all the result automatically transferred to the new cross-table.So you are suggesting we be dishonest.
We are fortunate that you are not the ACF's FIDE Rating Officer.

Bill Gletsos
06-01-2010, 10:34 AM
Addamo has a rating now, can you just use that rating for the fourth?No.
They must have a rating at the time the event started.

MichaelBaron
06-01-2010, 12:15 PM
So you are suggesting we be dishonest.
We are fortunate that you are not the ACF's FIDE Rating Officer.

I am suggesting we use common sense! It is a real tournament that has really taken place (I have seen the games being played!) and get it rated.
Yes, you are fortunate to have Shitty is the rating officer :). I have no intention to become one.

Basil
06-01-2010, 12:23 PM
Yes, you are fortunate to have Shitty is the rating officer :).
Santa, are you about?

Bill Gletsos
06-01-2010, 12:25 PM
I am suggesting we use common sense!Common sense would have been to have run the tournament properly inside the 90 day window in the first place.

It is a real tournament that has really taken place (I have seen the games being played!) and get it rated.Yes according to you, by lying about when the games were actually played.

Kevin Bonham
06-01-2010, 12:33 PM
I am suggesting we use common sense!

Deliberately submitting fraudulent data, which could be seen to be fraudulent based on evidence in the public domain, is not sense of any kind, common or otherwise. Gee that would go down really well if it was noticed given the hard work our FIDE ratings officer is currently doing to protect us from being billed for results and titles achieved by fictitiously Australian players. :rolleyes:

*sigh* Another example of Bonham's Law (http://chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=135967&postcount=1).

mikesguns
06-01-2010, 01:03 PM
So is there basically no way to get this tournament FIDE rated, where we don't lie?

Lekko
06-01-2010, 01:12 PM
So is there basically no way to get this tournament FIDE rated, where we don't lie?
Apparently not.

Lakshman
06-01-2010, 01:21 PM
So is there basically no way to get this tournament FIDE rated, where we don't lie?

Michael,

Sorry to barge in, I have been following this event right from the begining and guess we all should accept the fact that there has been ups and downs since and before the start and hence at this stage "Common Sense" would be to abide by post http://www.chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=268201&postcount=199

Mind you, I am not neglecting the amount of efforts yourself & HBK have put in to ensure the tournament finishes off in a good note, but..... what can you do? Rules are Rules at the end of the day.

Apologise if i have hurt your/HBK feelings on this. It is just my personal opinion which I thought of expressing.

Thanks

lost
06-01-2010, 02:50 PM
Michael,

Sorry to barge in, I have been following this event right from the begining and guess we all should accept the fact that there has been ups and downs since and before the start and hence at this stage "Common Sense" would be to abide by post http://www.chesschat.org/showpost.php?p=268201&postcount=199

Mind you, I am not neglecting the amount of efforts yourself & HBK have put in to ensure the tournament finishes off in a good note, but..... what can you do? Rules are Rules at the end of the day.

Apologise if i have hurt your/HBK feelings on this. It is just my personal opinion which I thought of expressing.

Thanks


Hi everyone,

This is sad to see but Lakshman is right. These are the rules, but hey, this year will be massive for the MCC for the Phoenix events!!!

lost

Lekko
06-01-2010, 03:14 PM
Hi everyone,

This is sad to see but Lakshman is right. These are the rules, but hey, this year will be massive for the MCC for the Phoenix events!!!

lost
Is it still ACF rated? Also, when do we get our prizes?

mikesguns
06-01-2010, 03:30 PM
Is it still ACF rated? Also, when do we get our prizes?
Yes it will be ACF rated, as there aren't as many restrictions with the ACF ratings

Lekko
06-01-2010, 10:33 PM
Yes it will be ACF rated, as there aren't as many restrictions with the ACF ratings
Hmm, cool I guess :)

Garvinator
06-01-2010, 11:01 PM
Hmm, cool I guess :)
My advice would be to get the tournament to your state rating officer asap. Victoria seems to have a habit of being late with their tournaments and having to leave it up to the ACF rating officer to chase up later.

So get it in early and there should be no problems.

Lekko
06-01-2010, 11:20 PM
My advice would be to get the tournament to your state rating officer asap. Victoria seems to have a habit of being late with their tournaments and having to leave it up to the ACF rating officer to chase up later.

So get it in early and there should be no problems.
I'm leaving that to Lost since he was arbiter.

I guess I'm just somewhat disappointed since I was going to have a nice rating after this tournament.

mikesguns
07-01-2010, 08:59 AM
On the bright side HBK there is 4 more of these tournaments this year to get the rating you wanted

Lekko
07-01-2010, 03:32 PM
On the bright side HBK there is 4 more of these tournaments this year to get the rating you wanted

So what you're saying is, I have to wait until the next one? :P

mikesguns
07-01-2010, 05:21 PM
So what you're saying is, I have to wait until the next one? :P
Well yes, unless you're playing in the Australian Juniors or some other interstate event to get a FIDE rating by the March period

lost
08-01-2010, 12:58 PM
Is it still ACF rated? Also, when do we get our prizes?


You will have to speak to MCC for that!!

lost

lost
27-01-2010, 03:44 PM
You will have to speak to MCC for that!!

lost

Hi all,

Can someone from the MCC tell us about the prizes at all? Who won what and so forth. If you require this information just let me know and I will post!

lost

Lekko
27-01-2010, 03:45 PM
Hi all,

Can someone from the MCC tell us about the prizes at all? Who won what and so forth. If you require this information just let me know and I will post!

lost
Yeah I need my second place prize money so that I can enter the MCC championship.

MichaelBaron
27-01-2010, 05:09 PM
On the bright side HBK there is 4 more of these tournaments this year to get the rating you wanted

By the way, guys - I have started a thread for the next Phoenix event - please put your names down!

Lekko
27-01-2010, 07:04 PM
By the way, guys - I have started a thread for the next Phoenix event - please put your names down!
I won't be playing due to the MCC championship. I don't want to be playing two tournaments at once.

MichaelBaron
28-01-2010, 12:40 AM
I won't be playing due to the MCC championship. I don't want to be playing two tournaments at once.

Wow, I was under the impression you are happy to play 7 tournaments at once :)

lost
28-01-2010, 10:20 AM
Yeah I need my second place prize money so that I can enter the MCC championship.

Hi Frank,

Can you get Carl to PM me if he wants the information at all?

lost

Lekko
28-01-2010, 01:30 PM
Wow, I was under the impression you are happy to play 7 tournaments at once :)
I'm happy if ones an allegro/blitz. Not 2 90+30's though.

Carl Gorka
28-01-2010, 04:08 PM
Hi all,

Can someone from the MCC tell us about the prizes at all? Who won what and so forth. If you require this information just let me know and I will post!

lost

The prizes were won by:

1st C. Gorka $100
2nd F. Lekkas $80
3rd M. Tanner $60

The prizes will be available this coming Monday, and possibly earlier such as at the Saturday allegro.

Jamie, did you send the results to the grading officer? If not could you do so, or pass on the SP files to myself or Malcolm Pyke.

Thanks

lost
29-01-2010, 03:28 PM
The prizes were won by:

1st C. Gorka $100
2nd F. Lekkas $80
3rd M. Tanner $60

The prizes will be available this coming Monday, and possibly earlier such as at the Saturday allegro.

Jamie, did you send the results to the grading officer? If not could you do so, or pass on the SP files to myself or Malcolm Pyke.

Thanks

I have sent off the files to ratings officer and Are you sure thats the final results?

lost