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Watto
18-08-2009, 12:07 PM
Croydon Chess - The Anand
October 3-4, 2009
A 2009 Yulgilbar-Think Big Australian Chess Grand Prix class 1 event.

Five round Swiss system. Games will be governed by the FIDE laws of chess and will be ACF rated. Late arrival by one hour will result in forfeiture.

Times:
Saturday 3rd:
Round 1: 11.00am
Round 2: 3.00pm
Round 3: 7.00pm

Sunday 4th:
Round 4: 11.00am
Round 5: 3.00pm

Venue: Croydon RSL, 1 Civic Sq, Croydon VIC 3136. About 400m from Croydon station. Melways: 50 - J4, UBD: 260 - G5.

Time controls: Each player has 75 minutes initially with an additional 30 seconds per move.

Prizes:
$ 200 first place, $ 150 second place, $ 100 third place
$ 75 first under 1600 rating
$ 50 first under 1200 rating
$ 75 first junior under 1600 rating
$ 50 first junior under 1200 rating
Maximum one prize per entrant. Prizes to be shared equally in the event of a tie.

Entry fees:
$ 30 Standard entry
$ 20 Junior entry
$ 20 Croydon CC members
$ 0 FIDE titled players

How to enter: Contact Douglas Stones on 0413 423 659 or email douglas.stones@croydonchess.com
Payment due on the first day of the tournament.

Proudly sponsored by LJ Hooker, Bendigo Bank and Northern Star Chess.

Club website: http://www.croydonchess.com/

Saragossa
19-08-2009, 07:13 PM
Marcus and I might jump the puddle and go to this one. Good experience last time! Hopefully see you there. I'll say more later but I'll have to talk to Dad and everything like that.

ER
19-08-2009, 08:53 PM
I 've just telephoned Douglas and let him know about my participation. Great experience from this beautiful club :clap: last year (Now, I also know where exactly it is situated :) ) so I shall see you all there this year as well! :)

ER
19-08-2009, 08:56 PM
Late arrival by one hour will result in forfeiture.

:clap: :clap: :clap: I have reasons to be satisfied for this! ;)I hope this will not change to 15' particularly if a Melbourne Marathon is run on the same day! :P

Watto
20-08-2009, 10:07 AM
Marcus and I might jump the puddle and go to this one. Good experience last time! Hopefully see you there. I'll say more later but I'll have to talk to Dad and everything like that.
Hi Saragossa, hope you do. It would be great to see you and Marcus again.


:clap: :clap: :clap: I have reasons to be satisfied for this! ;)I hope this will not change to 15' particularly if a Melbourne Marathon is run on the same day! :P
lol, I can imagine you would be pretty pleased about the forfeiture time for this one, JaK. It’s excellent that you’ve entered.

Watto
03-09-2009, 12:07 PM
The tournament brochure for this weekender is now available at the club website: please feel free to download and print copies for yourself or players at your club.
www.croydonchess.com

ER
03-09-2009, 12:16 PM
excellent brossure and thanks!!!

Looking forward to play in it! This my favourite weekender of the year! And I am not talking Melbourne only! Make sure don't neglect to go for some lovely walking around the parks across the road from the Club between rounds! Apart from Croydon Chess Club's great canteen, there is also the shopping Centre with all kinds of eateries just a stone's throw away! The people are great, the venue is great the Chess is great! DON'T MISS IT!

Dougy
03-09-2009, 04:59 PM
Wow! Thanks for that justaknight! (:

Saragossa
12-09-2009, 04:36 PM
Ok looking like it's going ahead although flights after the second day look slightly problematic but it's nothing that will stop me attending.

I'm pretty pumped! hoping to improve my performance by flying in the day before and getting my rest up. So watch out Melbourne here I come!

Garvinator
12-09-2009, 04:38 PM
I'm pretty pumped! hoping to improve my performance by flying in the day before and getting my rest up. Needing to adjust to the time difference hey ;) :P

Dougy
13-09-2009, 07:35 AM
Here's the current list of confirmed entries... who else do I need to add? Saragossa? We've also had a few expressions of interest which are not on this list.


No Name Feder Rtg Loc Club

1. Lynn, William 1939
2. Birchall, Ian VIC 1808
3. Humphreys, Scott VIC 1434
4. Renzies, Elliott VIC 1353
5. Gibson, Kyle VIC 1107 J
6. Bell, David VIC 1041
7. Lim, Ethan VIC 935 J
8. Lim, Denise VIC 731 J
9. Hunter, Daniel J


My email address is: douglas.stones@croydonchess.com

Saragossa
13-09-2009, 07:23 PM
Here's the current list of confirmed entries... who else do I need to add? Saragossa? We've also had a few expressions of interest which are not on this list.


No Name Feder Rtg Loc Club

1. Lynn, William 1939
2. Birchall, Ian VIC 1808
3. Humphreys, Scott VIC 1434
4. Renzies, Elliott VIC 1353
5. Gibson, Kyle VIC 1107 J
6. Bell, David VIC 1041
7. Lim, Ethan VIC 935 J
8. Lim, Denise VIC 731 J
9. Hunter, Daniel J


My email address is: douglas.stones@croydonchess.com


Almost. I have confirmed it over the phone with my father and I sent him an email so he can book flights etc. Once I get an email back confirming flight times, accomodation, transport etc then you can add me to the list.

I'm looking forward to it.

Dougy
18-09-2009, 10:22 AM
Updated entry list:


No Name Feder Rtg Loc Club

1. Lynn, William 1939
2. Birchall, Ian VIC 1808
3. Bekker, Gary D VIC 1594
4. Humphreys, Scott VIC 1434
5. Yung, Jamie VIC 1366 J
6. Renzies, Elliott VIC 1353
7. Gibson, Kyle VIC 1107 J
8. Bell, David VIC 1041
9. Lim, Ethan VIC 935 J
10. Lim, Denise VIC 731 J
11. Yung, Cameron VIC 325 J
12. Hunter, Daniel J
13. Tu, Max J


(J means junior, by the way)

Saragossa
19-09-2009, 12:09 AM
Ok feel free to add my brother and I to the list. Got the phone call yesterday.

Marcus Bretag TAS, 17, 1515

Lawrence Bretag TAS, 15, 1553

See you there guys!

ER
19-09-2009, 12:45 AM
Ok feel free to add my brother and I to the list. Got the phone call yesterday.

Marcus Bretag TAS, 17, 1515

Lawrence Bretag TAS, 15, 1553

See you there guys!

That's very good news and looking forward to see you after a year Lawrence and Marcus!

Questions now:

1) How come Bretag senior isn't playing?
2) I thought Marcus's rating was much higher than that; where did he lose all those points?
3) has Kole learnt to set the pieces up yet???

Saragossa
19-09-2009, 01:16 AM
That's very good news and looking forward to see you after a year Lawrence and Marcus!

Questions now:

1) How come Bretag senior isn't playing?
2) I thought Marcus's rating was much higher than that; where did he lose all those points?
3) has Kole learnt to set the pieces up yet???


Yes it will be very nice to see you again Elliot! Although I'll have to stay on my toes if the sight happens to be via 64 squares and a digital clock! Especially if you get the white pieces this time.


1) Warren's birthday is on the 5th/10th so he needs all his energy for partying on a monday (Don't we all? :P). He has taken up more regular play however with a friend of his. And I lend him chess books for his long flights. Maybe next year ;)

2) Due to college Marcus and I haven't been playing/studying together. The time constraints and pressure that this puts on him is immense however I have no doubt that next year after he is more used to it his rating will shoot back up. Unfortunate. And the ratings have given him an ! which I find insulting to his real strength. So in short he lost the ratings points to all the A's he is getting in school :clap:. And he has proven he can play at the top level in Tasmania.

3) Kole has checkmated me! We can make him play by when he picks up a piece pointing to a good square for him to put it on and clapping when he puts it on the right square :D His other talents include being a professional clock presser (Hire this kid out people!), terrific piece hider (He was the one that hid the "WMD's") and ahead of his time in stone cold evaluation (He often knocks over all the pieces in excitement or contempt for my amateur play, worse than the es,see,tee *taps nose*). On another note that big boy is nearly 2!

Kevin Bonham
19-09-2009, 02:08 AM
Marcus's very high rating was based on a relatively small number of games and went sharply up then down in a couple of ratings periods. I think he is a great deal stronger than low 15s but I also think the same of Vincent Horton who is around the same rating.

Getting above 1700 and staying there in this state is very difficult. There are so many 1300s and 1400s who can actually play quite well. It is not like, say, seven years ago when that rating range contained mostly easybeats, some of whom I was beating 10+ times in a row and one of whom I was 21-0 against. There are only a handful of active 1700+s to get points off now, as I mentioned here (http://chesschat.org/showthread.php?t=10667), so to get above 1700 and stay there in Tassie you need a very good percentage against the sub-1500s.

Dougy
19-09-2009, 08:24 AM
Another update on the list:


No Name Feder Loc Club

1. Tan, Justin VIC 1990 J
2. Lynn, William 1939 FIDE rating
3. Birchall, Ian VIC 1808
4. Bekker, Gary D VIC 1594
5. Bretag, Lawrence TAS 1553 J
6. Bretag, Marcus TAS 1502 J
7. Humphreys, Scott VIC 1434
8. Yung, Jamie VIC 1366 J
9. Renzies, Elliott VIC 1353
10. Gibson, Kyle VIC 1107 J
11. Bell, David VIC 1041
12. Lim, Ethan VIC 935 J
13. Lim, Denise VIC 731 J
14. Yung, Cameron VIC 325 J
15. Hunter, Daniel J
16. Tu, Max J


The September ratings give (is this right?): 1502! 12 826 24 Bretag, Marcus

P.S. Look forward to seeing you guys again (:

Watto
19-09-2009, 09:24 AM
Another update on the list:


No Name Feder Loc Club

1. Tan, Justin VIC 1990 J
2. Lynn, William 1939 FIDE rating
3. Birchall, Ian VIC 1808
4. Bekker, Gary D VIC 1594
5. Bretag, Lawrence TAS 1553 J
6. Bretag, Marcus TAS 1502 J
7. Humphreys, Scott VIC 1434
8. Yung, Jamie VIC 1366 J
9. Renzies, Elliott VIC 1353
10. Gibson, Kyle VIC 1107 J
11. Bell, David VIC 1041
12. Lim, Ethan VIC 935 J
13. Lim, Denise VIC 731 J
14. Yung, Cameron VIC 325 J
15. Hunter, Daniel J
16. Tu, Max J


The September ratings give (is this right?): 1502! 12 826 24 Bretag, Marcus

P.S. Look forward to seeing you guys again (:
Yes, it will be great to see you and Marcus again, Saragossa. :)

Good to see Justin Tan has entered, currently as top seed (always good to have strong juniors enter so it would be great if we can have a swag of Box Hill and other strong juniors enter!) Also good to see that New Zealander William Lynn is on the list.

p.s. Please add my name to the list, Dougy.

Saragossa
19-09-2009, 03:06 PM
The September ratings give (is this right?): 1502! 12 826 24 Bretag, Marcus

P.S. Look forward to seeing you guys again (:

Oh yes sorry I was doing it from memory...my old age must be setting in! :P Looking forward to seeing you again also, this time hopefully I will play better against you aswell :cool:.


Yes, it will be great to see you and Marcus again, Saragossa.

Good to see Justin Tan has entered, currently as top seed (always good to have strong juniors enter so it would be great if we can have a swag of Box Hill and other strong juniors enter!) Also good to see that New Zealander William Lynn is on the list.

p.s. Please add my name to the list, Dougy

It'll be a regular CC party! Can't wait to catch up. I did intend to go to the MCC on the monday but because of dad's birthday I won't be able to go : ( perhaps next time :)

ER
19-09-2009, 08:08 PM
I encourage more Canterbury / Box Hill Chess Club Juniors to play in this one, good preparation for tournaments ahead and also to meet their mates from Croydon Chess Club!

Davidflude
20-09-2009, 05:15 AM
Details of the tournament have been sent out to persons on the Chess Victoria mailing list.

Great to see that William Lynn is an entry. I wonder whether he still plays the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit.

ER
20-09-2009, 05:32 AM
Details of the tournament have been sent out to persons on the Chess Victoria mailing list.

Good work David, :clap: Any chance of you entering this one?

Dougy
20-09-2009, 07:11 AM
Details of the tournament have been sent out to persons on the Chess Victoria mailing list.

Great to see that William Lynn is an entry. I wonder whether he still plays the Blackmar-Diemer Gambit.

Thanks David. (:

Lakshman
21-09-2009, 05:58 AM
Douglas,

Could you please add "Vinay Lakshman 15 1281 VIC?

Thanks

Dougy
21-09-2009, 08:04 AM
Here's another update... tell me if I've missed anyone.


No Name Feder Loc Club

1. Tan, Justin VIC 1990 J
2. Lynn, William 1939 FIDE rating
3. Birchall, Ian VIC 1808
4. Bekker, Gary D VIC 1594
5. Bretag, Lawrence TAS 1553 J
6. Bretag, Marcus TAS 1502 J
7. Humphreys, Scott VIC 1434
8. Yung, Jamie VIC 1366 J
9. Renzies, Elliott VIC 1353
10. Watson, Jean VIC 1286
11. Lakshman, Vinay VIC 1281
12. Gibson, Kyle VIC 1107 J
13. Bell, David VIC 1041
14. Lim, Ethan VIC 935 J
15. Lim, Denise VIC 731 J
16. Yung, Cameron VIC 325 J
17. Hunter, Daniel J
18. Tu, Max J

Lakshman
21-09-2009, 08:06 PM
Here's another update... tell me if I've missed anyone.


No Name Feder Loc Club

1. Tan, Justin VIC 1990 J
2. Lynn, William 1939 FIDE rating
3. Birchall, Ian VIC 1808
4. Bekker, Gary D VIC 1594
5. Bretag, Lawrence TAS 1553 J
6. Bretag, Marcus TAS 1502 J
7. Humphreys, Scott VIC 1434
8. Yung, Jamie VIC 1366 J
9. Renzies, Elliott VIC 1353
10. Watson, Jean VIC 1286
11. Lakshman, Vinay VIC 1281
12. Gibson, Kyle VIC 1107 J
13. Bell, David VIC 1041
14. Lim, Ethan VIC 935 J
15. Lim, Denise VIC 731 J
16. Yung, Cameron VIC 325 J
17. Hunter, Daniel J
18. Tu, Max J


Vinay is a junior btw, 15 years old to be exact! ( if you could kindly update this on the list)

Dougy
21-09-2009, 08:43 PM
No Name Feder Loc Club

1. Tan, Justin VIC 1990 J
2. Lynn, William 1939 FIDE rating
3. Birchall, Ian VIC 1808
4. Bekker, Gary D VIC 1594
5. Bretag, Lawrence TAS 1553 J
6. Bretag, Marcus TAS 1502 J
7. Humphreys, Scott VIC 1434
8. Yung, Jamie VIC 1366 J
9. Renzies, Elliott VIC 1353
10. Watson, Jean VIC 1286
11. Oswald, Franz VIC 1283
12. Lakshman, Vinay VIC 1281 J
13. Gibson, Kyle VIC 1107 J
14. Bell, David VIC 1041
15. Lim, Ethan VIC 935 J
16. Lim, Denise VIC 731 J
17. Yung, Cameron VIC 325 J
18. Hunter, Daniel J
19. Tu, Max J


How's that?

Dougy
24-09-2009, 08:48 PM
Updated entry list:


No Name Feder Loc Club

1. Tan, Justin VIC 1990 J
2. Lynn, William 1939 FIDE rating
3. Birchall, Ian VIC 1808
4. Chong, Reginald VIC 1619
5. Bekker, Gary D VIC 1594
6. Bretag, Lawrence TAS 1553 J
7. Bretag, Marcus TAS 1502 J
8. Kostrzewa, Jake VIC 1497
9. Humphreys, Scott VIC 1434
10. Yung, Jamie VIC 1366 J
11. Renzies, Elliott VIC 1353
12. Goldsmith, Richard VIC 1336
13. Watson, Jean VIC 1286
14. Oswald, Franz VIC 1283
15. Lakshman, Vinay VIC 1281 J
16. Matthews, Rodney VIC 1114
17. Wong, Joseph VIC 1108 J
18. Gibson, Kyle VIC 1107 J
19. Bell, David VIC 1041
20. Lim, Ethan VIC 935 J
21. Lim, Denise VIC 731 J
22. Yung, Cameron VIC 325 J
23. Hunter, Daniel J
24. Tu, Max J

lost
26-09-2009, 11:26 PM
Can entrants take a half point bye at all? Can someone from the Croydon Chess club confirm this?

If so I may enter the tournament.

lost

ER
27-09-2009, 12:18 AM
Make sure you enter this one Jamie! It's a great Club (read my previous posts about it) I am sure you will make lots of new chess friends there!

lost
27-09-2009, 03:45 AM
I know I will justaknight, but I just want to make sure I can get a half point bye for the third round.

lost

Dougy
27-09-2009, 07:09 AM
I know I will justaknight, but I just want to make sure I can get a half point bye for the third round.

lost

This is fine by me. A couple of other people have requested third-round byes already.

ER
27-09-2009, 01:37 PM
there you are Jamie, go for it now!!! :)

lost
28-09-2009, 10:41 AM
I am a confirmed entrant.

lost

ER
28-09-2009, 10:47 AM
I am a confirmed entrant.

lost
:clap: :clap: :clap: see you there! actually I ll see you tomorrow night too! :)

ER
28-09-2009, 10:48 AM
This is fine by me. A couple of other people have requested third-round byes already.

and guess what!!!! the Melbourne Marathon is not this coming Sunday!!! so no excuses with public transport delays!!!

Davidflude
28-09-2009, 11:46 AM
Good work David, :clap: Any chance of you entering this one?

I had intended to play. Alas I have to help with organizing the Sunday coaching on Sunday afternoon at Box Hill. As it is the first week of the term it will keep two of us very busy for several hours taking entries, collecting money, talking to parents etc.

Nevertheless I wish the tournament well. I may call in on the Saturday afternoon to say hello to everyone.

David Flude

Watto
28-09-2009, 11:58 AM
I had intended to play. Alas I have to help with organizing the Sunday coaching on Sunday afternoon at Box Hill. As it is the first week of the term it will keep two of us very busy for several hours taking entries, collecting money, talking to parents etc.

Nevertheless I wish the tournament well. I may call in on the Saturday afternoon to say hello to everyone.

David Flude
Hi David. Thanks for the support and good wishes.
It's a shame you can't play but it sounds like you'll be kept very busy. If you can drop in on Saturday, it would be nice to see you. Otherwise, hope you can make it next year.

Jean

Watto
28-09-2009, 12:08 PM
I am a confirmed entrant.

lost
Excellent.
(btw, I must say for a chess related handle ‘lost’ is possibly even worse than my gameknot handle ;) ... my suggestions were being rejected and I couldn’t think of anything - I saw a measuring device on my desk and just typed ‘errorrepeat’: a shortening of ‘error - repeat measurement’. Didn’t think about it in chess terms. Stuck with it now… )

lost
28-09-2009, 12:12 PM
Just came up with the handle.

lost

ER
28-09-2009, 03:12 PM
Excellent.
(btw, I must say for a chess related handle ‘lost’ is possibly even worse than my gameknot handle ;) ... my suggestions were being rejected and I couldn’t think of anything - I saw a measuring device on my desk and just typed ‘errorrepeat’: a shortening of ‘error - repeat measurement’. Didn’t think about it in chess terms. Stuck with it now… )

lol you gave me an idea, I 'll go for Errorist! :P

lost
28-09-2009, 09:52 PM
Justaknight,

You wont see me at Box Hill tomorrow night as I have already finished all my games. I ended up on 5.5/9 for the tournament.

lost

Dougy
29-09-2009, 11:09 AM
Updated entry list:


No Name Feder Loc Club

1. Tan, Justin VIC 1990 J
2. Lynn, William 1939 FIDE rating
3. Birchall, Ian VIC 1808
4. Chong, Reginald VIC 1619
5. Bekker, Gary D VIC 1594
6. Bretag, Lawrence TAS 1553 J
7. Bretag, Marcus TAS 1502 J
8. Kostrzewa, Jake VIC 1497
9. Humphreys, Scott VIC 1434
10. Yung, Jamie VIC 1366 J
11. Renzies, Elliott VIC 1353
12. Goldsmith, Richard VIC 1336
13. Watson, Jean VIC 1286
14. Oswald, Franz VIC 1283
15. Lakshman, Vinay VIC 1281 J
16. Matthews, Rodney VIC 1114
17. Wong, Joseph VIC 1108 J
18. Gibson, Kyle VIC 1107 J
19. Bell, David VIC 1041
20. Lim, Ethan VIC 935 J
21. Lim, Denise VIC 731 J
22. Yung, Cameron VIC 325 J
23. Hunter, Daniel J
24. Tu, Max J


I'm out of town for now (so I won't be able to make the table nice and neat), but the following players have entered too:

1556!! 13 719 181 Brockman, Roland
1074?? 0 1618 377 Mullen, Chris
Jamie Kenmure

that Caesar guy
29-09-2009, 08:37 PM
Put me down for this tourney!

JM

Watto
30-09-2009, 12:40 AM
Put me down for this tourney!

JM
That's great, James. Look forward to seeing you (and your new haircut... !)

lost
30-09-2009, 12:59 AM
This is not great for me.

lost

Saragossa
30-09-2009, 03:50 PM
Put me down for this tourney!

JM

Excellent! Hopefully this encourages a few othe strong players to come for a bit of healthy competition for James?

Dougy
30-09-2009, 05:08 PM
Put me down for this tourney!

JM

Great! I'll add you in then.

P.S. Enjoy your free entry

Dougy
30-09-2009, 05:14 PM
By the way, it has been brought to my attention that we have daylight savings between rounds 3 and 4. The clocks are to be wound forward one hour.

Dougy
30-09-2009, 05:27 PM
I'm out of town for now (so I won't be able to make the table nice and neat), but the following players have entered too:

1556!! 13 719 181 Brockman, Roland
1074?? 0 1618 377 Mullen, Chris
Jamie Kenmure

Some more entries:

850! 21 1849 416 Fan, Enoch
Fan, Phoebe
2160!! 51 50 16 Morris, James

Mischa
01-10-2009, 01:49 AM
Unfortunately James is not able to play afterall
He was uanble to reschedule his final game from Noble Park with his opponent...so unless advised differently I guess he will not be able to play
sorry

Watto
01-10-2009, 10:08 AM
Unfortunately James is not able to play afterall
He was uanble to reschedule his final game from Noble Park with his opponent...so unless advised differently I guess he will not be able to play
sorry
Ah, that's a shame but these things happen. Thanks for letting us know, Mischa. :)

ER
01-10-2009, 10:18 AM
By the way, it has been brought to my attention that we have daylight savings between rounds 3 and 4. The clocks are to be wound forward one hour.

I know, that's one hour of sleepr less! :( Still I think it's better than having to compete with the Marathon runners! :P

that Caesar guy
01-10-2009, 10:54 AM
I know, that's one hour of sleepr less! :( Still I think it's better than having to compete with the Marathon runners! :P
Sorry again, but is it OK if I take a bye in the first round? If I can rearrange the game with Laurence, it seems like it has to be Sat. morning.
(Note: This isn't me re-entering again, as I do not know whether I can rearrange the game, but just keep it in mind :P)

J.M.

Ninja
01-10-2009, 11:06 AM
Sorry again, but is it OK if I take a bye in the first round? If I can rearrange the game with Laurence, it seems like it has to be Sat. morning.
(Note: This isn't me re-entering again, as I do not know whether I can rearrange the game, but just keep it in mind :P)

J.M.
Why not try and talk LM into playing the weekender as well !

Davidflude
01-10-2009, 11:12 AM
Put me down for this tourney!

JM

Is your new haircut a 101st Airborne otherwise known as a mohawk.

When they parachuted into Normandy on D day every officer and man had a mohawk haircut.

that Caesar guy
01-10-2009, 11:21 AM
Nah David, it isn't a mohawk. And it's basically already grown back! lol. Although, I might consider a mohawk one day...:D
But I'll gel it a bit spastic, just to please you :P
And Laurence has commitments on the Sunday, so he cant.
And I just contacted him then, and we are playing our game at 10:00, MCC, Saturday morning. So, if I can have a bye first round, then I can play.

James

Dougy
01-10-2009, 03:51 PM
Nah David, it isn't a mohawk. And it's basically already grown back! lol. Although, I might consider a mohawk one day...:D
But I'll gel it a bit spastic, just to please you :P
And Laurence has commitments on the Sunday, so he cant.
And I just contacted him then, and we are playing our game at 10:00, MCC, Saturday morning. So, if I can have a bye first round, then I can play.

James

It's fine by me if you have a r1 bye... but keep in mind that round 2 starts at 3.00pm. It's quite encouraging how enthusiastic you are though. (:

Mischa
01-10-2009, 11:06 PM
He is relying heavily on public transport
train to MCC..speed game, then train to Croydon.. I am hoping his round two apponent is uderstanding about lateness, :)

Dougy
02-10-2009, 07:04 AM
Well... interesting plan. Keep in touch if you plan on going through with it.

ER
02-10-2009, 08:10 AM
Well... interesting plan. Keep in touch if you plan on going through with it.
I hope James doesn't have the opponent I had last year when there was a forfeit time of 15 mins.. I was there one minute late and I was told my opponent had claimed the win one second after the original time had elapsed, good luck to him! :)
This year it's different though; not that this guy would not claim a win, but an hour is an hour and James would beat him even with one minute on the clock!:)

lost
02-10-2009, 08:39 AM
If James plays me I will seek the permission from the arbiter to start the clock when James arrives.

lost

that Caesar guy
02-10-2009, 08:57 AM
Yeah, thats the plan...but its not really a speed game. I calculated i have approx 210 minutes to finish the game (3.5 hours), then to catch the tram to Parliament and catch the 1:57 Lilydale train, which gets me to Croydon at 2:44. So i've worked it all out :P

J.M.

lost
02-10-2009, 10:50 AM
Well the offer is still there!!

lost

Ian CCC
02-10-2009, 11:10 AM
Yeah, thats the plan...but its not really a speed game. I calculated i have approx 210 minutes to finish the game (3.5 hours), then to catch the tram to Parliament and catch the 1:57 Lilydale train, which gets me to Croydon at 2:44. So i've worked it all out :P

J.M.

Visiting players might want to check out the map at the link below as the Croydon RSL Club (labelled 1) can be tricky to find:

http://www.whereis.com/?id=DCE43C5ED32EE

ER
02-10-2009, 11:35 AM
Thanks Ian that was very helpful for me last year. I wish I had done it the first day too when instead I did it my way managing to convert a 7 min easy walk to the venue to a one hour and ten minutes wondering around (otherwise lovely but irrelevant) parklands and other attractions. :) Cheers see you all there!

Saragossa
02-10-2009, 01:53 PM
I think because the arbiters have previous knowledge of the problems that might occur, they could possibly make an exception? Make it so James' games have the full time limit to elapse before he is forfeited? Besides he is doing alot for the prestige of this tournament. And he's going out of his way to compete, just cut a little slack? fifteen minutes isn't much.

Watto
02-10-2009, 02:17 PM
I think because the arbiters have previous knowledge of the problems that might occur, they could possibly make an exception? Make it so James' games have the full time limit to elapse before he is forfeited? Besides he is doing alot for the prestige of this tournament. And he's going out of his way to compete, just cut a little slack? fifteen minutes isn't much.
Hi Saragossa, I'm also really pleased that James is going to try to get to the tournament but there's actually no need to make an exception: the forfeit time for this tournament is one hour, not 15 minutes. See post 1. :)
(Unless you mean an extra 15 minutes on top of the hour? I might have misunderstood you... as often happens on chesschat ;))

Saragossa
02-10-2009, 02:35 PM
(Unless you mean an extra 15 minutes on top of the hour? I might have misunderstood you... as often happens on chesschat ;))

This is what I meant. Although the public transport schedule is worked out there is always a chance of a hiccup. That's alright I'm a bad communicator :( .

ER
02-10-2009, 03:16 PM
Hey Lawrence are you still in Tassie?

Dougy
02-10-2009, 08:49 PM
So I'll add you in with a r1 bye then James. Here's a neatened version of the entry list (tell me if you see something that needs changing):


No Name Feder Loc Club

1. Morris, James VIC 2160 J
2. Tan, Justin VIC 1990 J
3. Lynn, William 1939 FIDE rating
4. Birchall, Ian VIC 1808
5. Chong, Reginald VIC 1619
6. Bekker, Gary D VIC 1594
7. Davies, Stephen P VIC 1584
8. Brockman, Roland VIC 1556
9. Bretag, Lawrence TAS 1553 J
10. Tan, Kai VIC 1526
11. Bretag, Marcus TAS 1502 J
12. Kostrzewa, Jake VIC 1497
13. Humphreys, Scott VIC 1434
14. Yung, Jamie VIC 1366 J
15. Renzies, Elliott VIC 1353
16. Goldsmith, Richard VIC 1336
17. Kenmure, Jamie VIC 1331
18. Watson, Jean VIC 1286
19. Oswald, Franz VIC 1283
20. Lakshman, Vinay VIC 1281 J
21. Matthews, Rodney VIC 1114
22. Wong, Joseph VIC 1108 J
23. Gibson, Kyle VIC 1107 J
24. Mullen, Chris VIC 1074
25. Lim, Ethan VIC 935 J
26. Fan, Enoch VIC 850 J
27. Lim, Denise VIC 731 J
28. Zelesco, Karl VIC 487 J
29. Yung, Cameron VIC 325 J
30. Fan, Phoebe VIC J
31. Hunter, Daniel J
32. Tu, Max J


See you all tomorrow!

ER
03-10-2009, 06:50 AM
ok everyone up!!!
for those using public transport (that's for train I don't know about buses but I know there are some)

Lilydale Line

Trains departing from:
Flinders St St (platform 2 or 3 check there) at 9:10 arriving Croydon 10:04
Flinders St St (platform 2 or 3 check there) at 9:50 arriving Croydon 10:44

Sthern Cross Station (platform 9 or 10 check there) add 3 minutes to the above

And don't forget to validate your tickets!

Spiny Norman
03-10-2009, 07:07 AM
Hope I will see you there JAK ... I have to stop by to get the Prez to sign a few cheques ...

ER
03-10-2009, 07:11 AM
Hey hi SK, aren't you playing???

lost
03-10-2009, 07:16 AM
Will see you there JAK.

lost

ER
03-10-2009, 07:23 AM
Hi Jamie, see you there mate! :)

Spiny Norman
03-10-2009, 11:56 AM
IM Guy West is top seed ... field of 35 players.

I popped down there briefly to say hello to everyone. Good to catch up briefly with Shump, JustAKnight, Gary Bekker and more.

Special thanks to our sponsors:
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Bendigo Bank have just announced some additional funding for Croydon Chess, enabling us to acquire a further 10 sets of boards, pieces and clocks.

Thanks Bendigo Bank! You're awesome!! Great supporters of chess in Victoria!!!

Spiny Norman
03-10-2009, 06:02 PM
Round #1 results now posted on the Croydon website here:
http://www.croydonchess.com/Results/2009/TheAnandOctober/tabid/161/language/en-AU/Default.aspx

No games available yet. Round #1 results:


No Name Loc Total Result Name Loc Total

1 Jamie Kenmure 1331 [0] 0:1 Guy West 2310 [0]
2 Justin Tan 1990 [0] 1:0 Jean Watson 1286 [0]
3 Franz Oswald 1283 [0] 1:0 William Lynn 1939 [0]
4 Ian Birchall 1808 [0] 1:0 Vinay Lakshman 1281 [0]
5 Rodney Matthews 1114 [0] 0:1 Reginald Chong 1619 [0]
6 Gary D Bekker 1594 [0] 0:1 Joseph Wong 1108 [0]
7 Kyle Gibson 1107 [0] 0:1 Stephen P Davies 1584 [0]
8 Roland Brockman 1556 [0] 1:0 Chris Mullen 1074 [0]
9 Ethan Lim 935 [0] 0:1 Lawrence Bretag 1553 [0]
10 Bill McNeal 1543 [0] 1:0 Enoch Fan 850 [0]
11 Denise Lim 731 [0] 0:1 Kai Tan 1526 [0]
12 Marcus Bretag 1502 [0] 1:0 Karl Zelesco 487 [0]
13 Cameron Yung 325 [0] 0:1 Jake Kostrzewa 1497 [0]
14 Scott Humphreys 1434 [0] 1:0 Phoebe Fan [0]
15 Pearl Yung 768 [0] 0:1 Jamie Yung 1366 [0]
16 Elliott Renzies 1353 [0] 0:1 YewSze Lim [0]
17 Max Tu [0] 0:1 Richard Goldsmith 1336 [0]
18 James Morris 2160 [0] .5:.5 BYE

Round #2 pairings:


No Name Loc Total Result Name Loc Total

1 Guy West 2310 [1] : Kai Tan 1526 [1]
2 Jake Kostrzewa 1497 [1] : Justin Tan 1990 [1]
3 Jamie Yung 1366 [1] : Ian Birchall 1808 [1]
4 Reginald Chong 1619 [1] : Marcus Bretag 1502 [1]
5 Stephen P Davies 1584 [1] : Scott Humphreys 1434 [1]
6 Richard Goldsmith 1336 [1] : Roland Brockman 1556 [1]
7 Lawrence Bretag 1553 [1] : Franz Oswald 1283 [1]
8 Joseph Wong 1108 [1] : Bill McNeal 1543 [1]
9 YewSze Lim [1] : James Morris 2160 [.5]
10 William Lynn 1939 [0] : Ethan Lim 935 [0]
11 Enoch Fan 850 [0] : Gary D Bekker 1594 [0]
12 Denise Lim 731 [0] : Elliott Renzies 1353 [0]
13 Karl Zelesco 487 [0] : Jamie Kenmure 1331 [0]
14 Jean Watson 1286 [0] : Cameron Yung 325 [0]
15 Vinay Lakshman 1281 [0] : Chris Mullen 1074 [0]
16 Phoebe Fan [0] : Rodney Matthews 1114 [0]
17 Max Tu [0] : Kyle Gibson 1107 [0]

mikesguns
03-10-2009, 06:07 PM
There were 3 upsets
Well done to Frank, Joseph and YewSze
3 Franz Oswald 1283 [0] 1:0 William Lynn 1939 [0]
6 Gary D Bekker 1594 [0] 0:1 Joseph Wong 1108 [0]
16 Elliott Renzies 1353 [0] 0:1 YewSze Lim [0]

Spiny Norman
03-10-2009, 06:24 PM
I should also point out that player William Lynn's rating is a FIDE rating, as he is from New Zealand. I am therefore not certain how accurate that rating might be.

Adamski
03-10-2009, 09:02 PM
I should also point out that player William Lynn's rating is a FIDE rating, as he is from New Zealand. I am therefore not certain how accurate that rating might be.William Lynn is a famous name in New Zealand chess. This player's father "Wild Bill" played in a number of NZ championships and was well-known for regularly playing the dreaded BDG (Blackmar-Diemer Gambit) as white. he was well respected in NZ chess circles when I still lived in the country. (A country which I hope will qualify to play Australia in the final of the Champions Trophy 50 over cricket.)

Tony Dowden
03-10-2009, 09:40 PM
William Lynn is a famous name in New Zealand chess. This player's father "Wild Bill" played in a number of NZ championships and was well-known for regularly playing the dreaded BDG (Blackmar-Diemer Gambit) as white. he was well respected in NZ chess circles when I still lived in the country. (A country which I hope will qualify to play Australia in the final of the Champions Trophy 50 over cricket.)

I think this William Lynn and 'Wild Bill' are one and the same :) (By way of explanation, William has been playing a little in recent years - generally not at FIDE 1900 level but still dangerous if he sees attacking chances!)

Adamski
03-10-2009, 10:08 PM
I think this William Lynn and 'Wild Bill' are one and the same :) (By way of explanation, William has been playing a little in recent years - generally not at FIDE 1900 level but still dangerous if he sees attacking chances!)Interesting. Is he living in Aust now Tony? It would be strange to cross the Tasman at the time the Trundle is on.

Watto
03-10-2009, 10:13 PM
Interesting. Is he living in Aust now Tony? It would be strange to cross the Tasman at the time the Trundle is on.
From what he said today, he's just on holiday and found out that this weekender was on at the same time. Nice to have an overseas visitor.

Dougy
03-10-2009, 10:26 PM
Rounds 1 to 3 below:


No Name Loc Total Result Name Loc Total

1 Jamie Kenmure 1331 [0] 0:1 Guy West 2310 [0]
2 Justin Tan 1990 [0] 1:0 Jean Watson 1286 [0]
3 Franz Oswald 1283 [0] 1:0 William Lynn 1939 [0]
4 Ian Birchall 1808 [0] 1:0 Vinay Lakshman 1281 [0]
5 Rodney Matthews 1114 [0] 0:1 Reginald Chong 1619 [0]
6 Gary D Bekker 1594 [0] 0:1 Joseph Wong 1108 [0]
7 Kyle Gibson 1107 [0] 0:1 Stephen P Davies 1584 [0]
8 Roland Brockman 1556 [0] 1:0 Chris Mullen 1074 [0]
9 Ethan Lim 935 [0] 0:1 Lawrence Bretag 1553 [0]
10 Bill McNeal 1543 [0] 1:0 Enoch Fan 850 [0]
11 Denise Lim 731 [0] 0:1 Kai Tan 1526 [0]
12 Marcus Bretag 1502 [0] 1:0 Karl Zelesco 487 [0]
13 Cameron Yung 325 [0] 0:1 Jake Kostrzewa 1497 [0]
14 Scott Humphreys 1434 [0] 1:0 Phoebe Fan [0]
15 Pearl Yung 768 [0] 0:1 Jamie Yung 1366 [0]
16 Elliott Renzies 1353 [0] 0:1 YewSze Lim [0]
17 Max Tu [0] 0:1 Richard Goldsmith 1336 [0]
18 James Morris 2160 [0] .5:.5 BYE



No Name Loc Total Result Name Loc Total

1 Guy West 2310 [1] 1:0 Kai Tan 1526 [1]
2 Jake Kostrzewa 1497 [1] 0:1 Justin Tan 1990 [1]
3 Jamie Yung 1366 [1] 0:1 Ian Birchall 1808 [1]
4 Reginald Chong 1619 [1] .5:.5 Marcus Bretag 1502 [1]
5 Stephen P Davies 1584 [1] 1:0 Scott Humphreys 1434 [1]
6 Richard Goldsmith 1336 [1] .5:.5 Roland Brockman 1556 [1]
7 Lawrence Bretag 1553 [1] 1:0 Franz Oswald 1283 [1]
8 Joseph Wong 1108 [1] 1:0 Bill McNeal 1543 [1]
9 YewSze Lim [1] 0:1 James Morris 2160 [.5]
10 William Lynn 1939 [0] 1:0 Ethan Lim 935 [0]
11 Enoch Fan 850 [0] 0:1 Gary D Bekker 1594 [0]
12 Denise Lim 731 [0] 0:1 Elliott Renzies 1353 [0]
13 Karl Zelesco 487 [0] 0:1 Jamie Kenmure 1331 [0]
14 Jean Watson 1286 [0] 1:0 Cameron Yung 325 [0]
15 Vinay Lakshman 1281 [0] 1:0 Chris Mullen 1074 [0]
16 Phoebe Fan [0] 0:1 Rodney Matthews 1114 [0]
17 Max Tu [0] 0:1 Kyle Gibson 1107 [0]



No Name Loc Total Result Name Loc Total

1 Ian Birchall 1808 [2] 0:1 Guy West 2310 [2]
2 Justin Tan 1990 [2] 0:1 Lawrence Bretag 1553 [2]
3 Roland Brockman 1556 [1.5] 1:0 Joseph Wong 1108 [2]
4 James Morris 2160 [1.5] 1:0 Reginald Chong 1619 [1.5]
5 Marcus Bretag 1502 [1.5] 1:0 Bill McNeal 1543 [1]
6 Kai Tan 1526 [1] 1:0 Jean Watson 1286 [1]
7 Franz Oswald 1283 [1] 1:0 Jake Kostrzewa 1497 [1]
8 Scott Humphreys 1434 [1] 0:1 Vinay Lakshman 1281 [1]
9 Elliott Renzies 1353 [1] 1:0 Rodney Matthews 1114 [1]
10 Jamie Kenmure 1331 [1] 1:0 YewSze Lim [1]
11 Kyle Gibson 1107 [1] .5:.5 Enoch Fan 850 [0]
12 David A Flude 1637 [0] 1:0 Denise Lim 731 [0]
13 Chris Mullen 1074 [0] 1:0 Phoebe Fan [0]
14 Ethan Lim 935 [0] +:- Max Tu [0]
15 William Lynn 1939 [1] .5:.5 BYE
16 Gary D Bekker 1594 [1] .5:.5 BYE
17 Stephen P Davies 1584 [2] .5:.5 BYE
18 Jamie Yung 1366 [1] .5:.5 BYE
19 Karl Zelesco 487 [0] .5:.5 BYE
20 Cameron Yung 325 [0] .5:.5 BYE


Here is round 4 provisional pairings (as in I'll try not to change things if reasonably possible, but things come up):


No Name Loc Total Result Name Loc Total

1 Guy West 2310 [3] : Lawrence Bretag 1553 [3]
2 James Morris 2160 [2.5] : Roland Brockman 1556 [2.5]
3 Stephen P Davies 1584 [2.5] : Marcus Bretag 1502 [2.5]
4 Jamie Kenmure 1331 [2] : Justin Tan 1990 [2]
5 Joseph Wong 1108 [2] : Ian Birchall 1808 [2]
6 Kai Tan 1526 [2] : Franz Oswald 1283 [2]
7 Vinay Lakshman 1281 [2] : Elliott Renzies 1353 [2]
8 Gary D Bekker 1594 [1.5] : William Lynn 1939 [1.5]
9 Reginald Chong 1619 [1.5] : Jamie Yung 1366 [1.5]
10 Jake Kostrzewa 1497 [1] : Kyle Gibson 1107 [1.5]
11 Bill McNeal 1543 [1] : Chris Mullen 1074 [1]
12 Rodney Matthews 1114 [1] : Scott Humphreys 1434 [1]
13 Jean Watson 1286 [1] : YewSze Lim [1]
14 Ethan Lim 935 [1] : Karl Zelesco 487 [.5]
15 Enoch Fan 850 [.5] : Cameron Yung 325 [.5]
16 Phoebe Fan [0] : Denise Lim 731 [0]

ER
03-10-2009, 10:26 PM
after a disastrous start I won Rs II and III. I didn't stay long after my 3rd game which finished very ealry! Great tournament, great people!
Some notes:
Bretag Bros are back and in good form. Both about a foot talle than last time I saw them! :) Marcus knew nothing about the Anti - Zombie movement started by Lawrence, so when I told him that I had checked and there weren't any (Zombies) around he looked at me in a "what?" kinda way.
I think Lawerence clued him in and he is one of us now!
Roland Brockman brought me four cricket books, all collectors items! He had told me in Canberra he would give them to me next time we 'd d meet in Melbourne and he kept his promise. Thanks mate! :)
Other niews? I went to the park for a snooze between rounds. Helped me heaps.
Fludey made an appearance! Popular whenever he goes!

Dougy
03-10-2009, 10:59 PM
Oh, here's the cross-table:


No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total 1 2 3 4

1 West, Guy VIC 2310 3 11:W 12:W 7:W 2:
2 Bretag, Lawrence TAS 1553 3 27:W 8:W 10:W 1:
3 Brockman, Roland VIC 1556 2.5 26:W 19:D 9:W 5:
4 Davies, Stephen P VIC 1584 2.5 20:W 24:W 0:D 6:
5 Morris, James VIC 2160 2.5 0:D 21:W 15:W 3:
6 Bretag, Marcus TAS 1502 2.5 30:W 15:D 23:W 4:
7 Birchall, Ian VIC 1808 2 13:W 16:W 1:L 9:
8 Oswald, Franz VIC 1283 2 17:W 2:L 22:W 12:
9 Wong, Joseph VIC 1108 2 18:W 23:W 3:L 7:
10 Tan, Justin VIC 1990 2 25:W 22:W 2:L 11:
11 Kenmure, Jamie VIC 1331 2 1:L 30:W 21:W 10:
12 Tan, Kai VIC 1526 2 34:W 1:L 25:W 8:
13 Lakshman, Vinay VIC 1281 2 7:L 26:W 24:W 14:
14 Renzies, Elliott VIC 1353 2 21:L 34:W 28:W 13:
15 Chong, Reginald VIC 1619 1.5 28:W 6:D 5:L 16:
16 Yung, Jamie VIC 1366 1.5 36:W 7:L 0:D 15:
17 Lynn, William 1939 1.5 8:L 27:W 0:D 18:
18 Bekker, Gary D VIC 1594 1.5 9:L 31:W 0:D 17:
19 Goldsmith, Richard VIC 1336 1.5 33:W 3:D 0: 0:
20 Gibson, Kyle VIC 1107 1.5 4:L 33:W 31:D 22:
21 Lim, YewSze VIC 1 14:W 5:L 11:L 25:
22 Kostrzewa, Jake VIC 1497 1 32:W 10:L 8:L 20:
23 McNeal, Bill VIC 1543 1 31:W 9:L 6:L 26:
24 Humphreys, Scott VIC 1434 1 35:W 4:L 13:L 28:
25 Watson, Jean VIC 1286 1 10:L 32:W 12:L 21:
26 Mullen, Chris VIC 1074 1 3:L 13:L 35:W 23:
27 Lim, Ethan VIC 935 1 2:L 17:L 33:+ 30:
28 Matthews, Rodney VIC 1114 1 15:L 35:W 14:L 24:
29 Flude, David A VIC 1637 1 0: 0: 34:W 0:
30 Zelesco, Karl VIC 487 .5 6:L 11:L 0:D 27:
31 Fan, Enoch VIC 850 .5 23:L 18:L 20:D 32:
32 Yung, Cameron VIC 325 .5 22:L 25:L 0:D 31:
33 Tu, Max 0 19:L 20:L 27:- 0:
34 Lim, Denise VIC 731 0 12:L 14:L 29:L 35:
35 Fan, Phoebe VIC 0 24:L 28:L 26:L 34:
36 Yung, Pearl VIC 768 0 16:L 0: 0: 0:

Saragossa
04-10-2009, 12:08 AM
Bretag Bros are back and in good form. Both about a foot talle than last time I saw them! Marcus knew nothing about the Anti - Zombie movement started by Lawrence, so when I told him that I had checked and there weren't any (Zombies) around he looked at me in a "what?" kinda way.
I think Lawerence clued him in and he is one of us now!

Relatives being notified makes for a safe zombie invasion.

Yes it's because of all the rain, we're like plants!

I was very happy to see Elliot and how constantly happy he is. Did you catch up with Dad? He said he got a brief hello in.

I'm also lucking out in play. I would like to note that Franz Oswald played an extremely good comeback and unfortunately missed a forced win only to get swindled. And Justin Tan accidently fell in the deep end of a very sharp sveshnikov, it could have happened to either of us. And Ethan Lim! Isn't he a rising star? Had me seating for the advantage and only made one mistake in a rook ending. Notably how easily he read when he would get compensation for a pawn. Clever kid.

Thanks for the provisional draw Doug i can't wait to play Guy tomorrow.

Dougy
04-10-2009, 07:47 AM
PLEASE REMEMBER DAYLIGHT SAVINGS!!!!!! (I don't want to forfeit any games because of this)

Thanks to David Flude who (a) generously helped out to get rid of a bye and (b) wanted to organise 2010 calendars in a non-clashing way.

Tony Dowden
04-10-2009, 09:21 AM
I'm also lucking out in play. I would like to note that Franz Oswald played an extremely good comeback and unfortunately missed a forced win only to get swindled. And Justin Tan accidently fell in the deep end of a very sharp sveshnikov, it could have happened to either of us. And Ethan Lim! Isn't he a rising star? Had me seating for the advantage and only made one mistake in a rook ending. Notably how easily he read when he would get compensation for a pawn. Clever kid.

Thanks for the provisional draw Doug i can't wait to play Guy tomorrow.

Awesome perfs by Tassie players (I think you are too modest here Lawrence) :clap: :clap: :clap:

Good luck against Guy!! (Prepping to play an IM isn't a bad excuse for not annotating our last rapid game ;) ).

that Caesar guy
04-10-2009, 07:10 PM
I can't remember the exact results, but 1st place went to Guy West with 4.5/5. =2nd: Justin Tan, Lawrence Bretag, Ian Birchall and myself on 4/5.

J.M.

Dougy
04-10-2009, 07:15 PM
Here's the results from rounds 3 and 4:


No Name Loc Total Result Name Loc Total

1 Guy West 2310 [3] 1:0 Lawrence Bretag 1553 [3]
2 James Morris 2160 [2.5] 1:0 Roland Brockman 1556 [2.5]
3 Stephen P Davies 1584 [2.5] 1:0 Marcus Bretag 1502 [2.5]
4 Jamie Kenmure 1331 [2] 0:1 Justin Tan 1990 [2]
5 Joseph Wong 1108 [2] 0:1 Ian Birchall 1808 [2]
6 Kai Tan 1526 [2] 1:0 Franz Oswald 1283 [2]
7 Vinay Lakshman 1281 [2] 0:1 Elliott Renzies 1353 [2]
8 Gary D Bekker 1594 [1.5] 0:1 William Lynn 1939 [1.5]
9 Reginald Chong 1619 [1.5] .5:.5 Jamie Yung 1366 [1.5]
10 Jake Kostrzewa 1497 [1] 1:0 Kyle Gibson 1107 [1.5]
11 Bill McNeal 1543 [1] -:+ Chris Mullen 1074 [1]
12 Rodney Matthews 1114 [1] 0:1 Scott Humphreys 1434 [1]
13 Jean Watson 1286 [1] 1:0 YewSze Lim [1]
14 Ethan Lim 935 [1] .5:.5 Karl Zelesco 487 [.5]
15 Enoch Fan 850 [.5] 1:0 Cameron Yung 325 [.5]
16 Phoebe Fan [0] 0:1 Denise Lim 731 [0]



No Name Loc Total Result Name Loc Total

1 Guy West 2310 [4] .5:.5 James Morris 2160 [3.5]
2 Justin Tan 1990 [3] 1:0 Stephen P Davies 1584 [3.5]
3 Ian Birchall 1808 [3] 1:0 Kai Tan 1526 [3]
4 Lawrence Bretag 1553 [3] 1:0 Elliott Renzies 1353 [3]
5 William Lynn 1939 [2.5] 0:1 Roland Brockman 1556 [2.5]
6 Marcus Bretag 1502 [2.5] .5:.5 Jamie Kenmure 1331 [2]
7 Franz Oswald 1283 [2] 0:1 Reginald Chong 1619 [2]
8 Chris Mullen 1074 [2] 0:1 Jake Kostrzewa 1497 [2]
9 Scott Humphreys 1434 [2] 0:1 Jean Watson 1286 [2]
10 Jamie Yung 1366 [2] .5:.5 Joseph Wong 1108 [2]
11 Vinay Lakshman 1281 [2] 0:1 Gary D Bekker 1594 [1.5]
12 Pearl Yung 768 [0] 0:1 Enoch Fan 850 [1.5]
13 Kyle Gibson 1107 [1.5] 1:0 Ethan Lim 935 [1.5]
14 YewSze Lim [1] 0:1 Rodney Matthews 1114 [1]
15 Denise Lim 731 [1] 0:1 Karl Zelesco 487 [1]
16 Cameron Yung 325 [.5] 1:0 Phoebe Fan [0]


And the crosstable:


No Name Feder Rtg Loc Total 1 2 3 4 5

1 West, Guy VIC 2310 4.5 14:W 8:W 5:W 3:W 4:D
2 Tan, Justin VIC 1990 4 11:W 12:W 3:L 14:W 6:W
3 Bretag, Lawrence TAS 1553 4 28:W 21:W 2:W 1:L 13:W
4 Morris, James VIC 2160 4 0:D 30:W 9:W 7:W 1:D
5 Birchall, Ian VIC 1808 4 22:W 16:W 1:L 15:W 8:W
6 Davies, Stephen P VIC 1584 3.5 19:W 23:W 0:D 10:W 2:L
7 Brockman, Roland VIC 1556 3.5 24:W 29:D 15:W 4:L 18:W
8 Tan, Kai VIC 1526 3 31:W 1:L 11:W 21:W 5:L
9 Chong, Reginald VIC 1619 3 26:W 10:D 4:L 16:D 21:W
10 Bretag, Marcus TAS 1502 3 25:W 9:D 32:W 6:L 14:D
11 Watson, Jean VIC 1286 3 2:L 27:W 8:L 30:W 23:W
12 Kostrzewa, Jake VIC 1497 3 27:W 2:L 21:L 19:W 24:W
13 Renzies, Elliott VIC 1353 3 30:L 31:W 26:W 22:W 3:L
14 Kenmure, Jamie VIC 1331 2.5 1:L 25:W 30:W 2:L 10:D
15 Wong, Joseph VIC 1108 2.5 17:W 32:W 7:L 5:L 16:D
16 Yung, Jamie VIC 1366 2.5 34:W 5:L 0:D 9:D 15:D
17 Bekker, Gary D VIC 1594 2.5 15:L 20:W 0:D 18:L 22:W
18 Lynn, William 1939 2.5 21:L 28:W 0:D 17:W 7:L
19 Gibson, Kyle VIC 1107 2.5 6:L 36:W 20:D 12:L 28:W
20 Fan, Enoch VIC 850 2.5 32:L 17:L 19:D 27:W 34:W
21 Oswald, Franz VIC 1283 2 18:W 3:L 12:W 8:L 9:L
22 Lakshman, Vinay VIC 1281 2 5:L 24:W 23:W 13:L 17:L
23 Humphreys, Scott VIC 1434 2 35:W 6:L 22:L 26:W 11:L
24 Mullen, Chris VIC 1074 2 7:L 22:L 35:W 32:+ 12:L
25 Zelesco, Karl VIC 487 2 10:L 14:L 0:D 28:D 31:W
26 Matthews, Rodney VIC 1114 2 9:L 35:W 13:L 23:L 30:W
27 Yung, Cameron VIC 325 1.5 12:L 11:L 0:D 20:L 35:W
28 Lim, Ethan VIC 935 1.5 3:L 18:L 36:+ 25:D 19:L
29 Goldsmith, Richard VIC 1336 1.5 36:W 7:D 0: 0: 0:
30 Lim, YewSze VIC 1 13:W 4:L 14:L 11:L 26:L
31 Lim, Denise VIC 731 1 8:L 13:L 33:L 35:W 25:L
32 McNeal, Bill VIC 1543 1 20:W 15:L 10:L 24:- 0:
33 Flude, David A VIC 1637 1 0: 0: 31:W 0: 0:
34 Yung, Pearl VIC 768 0 16:L 0: 0: 0: 20:L
35 Fan, Phoebe VIC 0 23:L 26:L 24:L 31:L 27:L
36 Tu, Max 0 29:L 19:L 28:- 0: 0:

Lakshman
04-10-2009, 07:28 PM
Hi Doug,

Could you please announce the Raffle winners or the numbers, i have a couple of tickets and would like to try my luck?

Ta

Kevin Bonham
04-10-2009, 07:57 PM
And Justin Tan accidently fell in the deep end of a very sharp sveshnikov, it could have happened to either of us.

Chess For Tigers has some good stuff about how the much higher rated player should avoid getting into such razor-sharp lines in the first place, because if the position gets so messy that neither player can really be certain what is happening, then the lower-rated player's chances of pulling off an upset win are greater.

Congrats on an outstanding result.

Saragossa
04-10-2009, 08:14 PM
Awesome perfs by Tassie players (I think you are too modest here Lawrence) :clap: :clap: :clap:

Good luck against Guy!! (Prepping to play an IM isn't a bad excuse for not annotating our last rapid game ;) ).

Thanks Tonybut you aren't getting off that easy. The reason I haven't gotten the game up is beause I haven't actually had the time. Early flights (I probs could have thursday actually but must have forgotten) And you aren't getting off that easy I'll be doing it soon probably in conjunction with our next game.


Chess For Tigers has some good stuff about how the much higher rated player should avoid getting into such razor-sharp lines in the first place, because if the position gets so messy that neither player can really be certain what is happening, then the lower-rated player's chances of pulling off an upset win are greater.

Congrats on an outstanding result.

Thanks. Yeah it was basically all based on the fact that he had an offside queen. He did have potential to launch quite a big attack given the right circumstances. it was interesting.

My game vs Elliot (Justaknight) was very exciting. He ended up with compensation for having a rook against my two bishops because he controlled both open files. then in my skittish time trouble I maanged to brew up a dual pawn sac which was declined but I got an attack anyway. Lucky really, had help from the clock.

Tony Dowden
04-10-2009, 08:18 PM
Thanks Tonybut you aren't getting off that easy. The reason I haven't gotten the game up is beause I haven't actually had the time. Early flights (I probs could have thursday actually but must have forgotten) And you aren't getting off that easy I'll be doing it soon probably in conjunction with our next game.



Thanks. Yeah it was basically all based on the fact that he had an offside queen. He did have potential to launch quite a big attack given the right circumstances. it was interesting.

My game vs Elliot (Justaknight) was very exciting. He ended up with compensation for having a rook against my two bishops because he controlled both open files. then in my skittish time trouble I maanged to brew up a dual pawn sac which was declined but I got an attack anyway. Lucky really, had help from the clock.

Well done Lawrence :cool:

:clap: :clap: :clap:

(The advice in 'Chess for Tigers' is spot on by the way)

Dougy
04-10-2009, 08:30 PM
Hi Doug,

Could you please announce the Raffle winners or the numbers, i have a couple of tickets and would like to try my luck?

Ta

Richard Goldsmith and Jamie Kenmure won the raffles (I don't remember the numbers).

Pearl reports: Orange 31 and Green 48 were the numbers.

ER
04-10-2009, 08:36 PM
The Bretags were all out in force (sans Kole) to watch Lawrence and Marcus playing and what a formidable and popular contingent they are! :clap: :clap: :clap: My friend Lawrence once again proved superior in our ongoing battle and did quite well in a very strong and demanding tournament!
The thunderous cheering and the kiss from dad all well deserved, good on you Lawerence!
Another outright first for IM Guy West! :clap:
The 1/2 point bye in the first round cost IM James Morris equal first, but his presence in Croydon throughout the weekend won him many friends since he spent almost all his free time analysing with Juniors who learnt a lot from the experience!
All in all an excellent tournament I enjoyed thoroughly and I look forward to go there again! Cogratulations Croydon Chess Club! :):clap:
Also a surprising and welcome improptue visit by The CV president Katrin Wills and the CV Vice President Leonid Sandler!

Saragossa
04-10-2009, 09:04 PM
The Bretags were all out in force (sans Kole) to watch Lawrence and Marcus playing and what a formidable and popular contingent they are! :clap: :clap: :clap: My friend Lawrence once again proved superior in our ongoing battle and did quite well in a very strong and demanding tournament!

Thank you Elliot.

The Croydon tournaments are a great way for the family to have a little get together. Also provides Warren with an excuse to party with his Melbourne friends over the weekend. Family support is great.

The games we have are always very taxing and I still think you were better in the endgame before Qxa3. The h-pawn push was a very creative way to keep the pressure up and it worked well. The only stuff up was the Rf8, unlucky! I'll post the game later.


The thunderous cheering and the kiss from dad all well deserved, good on you Lawerence!
Another outright first for IM Guy West! :clap:
The 1/2 point bye in the first round cost IM James Morris equal first, but his presence in Croydon throughout the weekend won him many friends since he spent almost all his free time analysing with Juniors who learnt a lot from the experience!

Guy West played beautifully and he is quite the character, always willing for a laugh. He also took me over the game we played which I found extremely helpful indeed.

Just listening to James go over his games was worth the entry fee and I completely agree that he gave alot to the younger juniors in terms of a free lesson, great guy and great player.



All in all an excellent tournament I enjoyed thoroughly and I look forward to go there again! Cogratulations Croydon Chess Club! :):clap:
Also a surprising and welcome improptue visit by The CV president Katrin Wills and the CV Vice President Leonid Sandler!

Can't wait to go again aswell!

lost
04-10-2009, 09:05 PM
Perfectly summed up there JAK. Also good performance by youself as well.

lost

Dougy
05-10-2009, 09:32 AM
Also a surprising and welcome improptue visit by The CV president Katrin Wills and the CV Vice President Leonid Sandler!

Katrin also bought some raffle tickets who she gave to random juniors (unfortunately none of them won).

I'd also like to say a thanks to the parents who were helping out in the kitchen (without even being asked). Also thanks to all the players (of course).

Also, I apologise to Enoch Fan, who came equal in the u1200 categories with Kyle Gibson and Joseph Wong, but we didn't announce that at the prize ceremony.

Saragossa
05-10-2009, 10:08 AM
1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 cxd5 4.Bd3 Nc6 5.c3 e6 6.Nf3 Nf6 7.Bf4 Nh5 8.Bg3 Nxg3 9.hxg3 h6 10.Nbd2 Be7 11.Qe2 Qc7 12.O-O-O Bd7 13.Kb1 a6 14.c4 dxc4 15.Nxc4 b5 16.Nce5 Qa7 17.Be4 Rc8 18.d5 Nxe5 19.Nxe5 Bf6 20.dxe6 Bxe6 21.Bc6+ Rxc6! 22.Nxc6 Qc5 23.Rc1 Qd5 24.Nb4 Qf5+ 25.Ka1 O-O 26.Nd3? Bc4 27.Rxc4 bxc4 28.Nf4 c3! 29.Qd3 Qc5? 30.Nd5 cxb2+ 31.Kb1 Qd4 32.Qf5 Bg5 33.f4 g6? 34.fxg5! gxf5 35.Ne7+{1-0}

So I was winning then he was winning, and luckily for me he missed a forced win, then I swindled my way to victory. I really enjoyed this game and Franz definitely deserves applause for his comeback. Can this also be put in the swindles thread?

Gattaca
05-10-2009, 11:26 AM
Just a Knight mentioned that James Morris would have tied for first if he hadn't had to take a half point bye in round 1.

No offence, but that's pure speculation. Once Tan won material against Davies I knew I only needed a draw to win the tournament, and that's the result I got.

For example, I would definitely not have offered a draw in the final endgame position against James, where White is either much better or winning, except to wrap up first place. James felt that Black might be able to defend, (and I did have substantially less time on the clock), but when the momentum of the game swings strongly in favour of the higher rated player, they have a good strike rate in my experience.

I think James would agree that you can't predict what would have happened in an entirely different set of circumstances. He played well and he is in good form, but what might have happened if he'd been available for round 1 is unknowable. Maybe I might have overpressed trying to beat him to win the event, and he might have won the tournament outright.

Sorry to bring this up, but logic pedants will understand where I am coming from!

Adamski
05-10-2009, 11:37 AM
Congrats to IM Guy on his victory!

Lakshman
05-10-2009, 11:50 AM
Congrats to IM Guy on his victory!

Yes, Congratulations IM Guy on winning the tournament. :clap:

Congrats to all the other winners in various divisions especially the Juniors.:clap: :clap:

Great tournament, very well organised, excellent weather.

Thanks Doug :clap:

Gattaca
05-10-2009, 02:20 PM
Thanks.

I wasn't fishing for compliments, by the way. I was top seed and had the mathematically best chance to win it it, based on ratings.

I just thought it was worth pointing out a certain kind of fallacious logic that you encounter quite often.

You often hear someone say something along the lines of, "If I'd only beaten X from a winning position in round 1 instead of losing, I'd have been in the prizemoney." Well maybe, except for the myriad factors that would have been completely different in that alternative universe.

A butterfly flaps its wings in Beijing...

I only mentioned it because in this case it related to my winning the tournament and someone drew my attention to it :)

Ian CCC
05-10-2009, 03:58 PM
Just a vote of thanks to everyone involved in organising and assisting in the running of this tournament. A very friendly atmosphere, a great venue and a well run event. A lot happens behind the scenes, but special mention must be made of the two front men:

Dougy is currently working hard, finishing his PhD thesis (Doctor Dougy?) and has had little time for chess this year, but he took time out from that, and his family, to organise this event. Thanks, Dougy!:clap:

Richard managed to fit in organising sponsors, setting up, getting food and supplies, organising raffles, making speeches, making jokes (usually bad ones), cleaning up and even filling in for a few games; all that, in between his weekend work commitments and family functions. A great effort by the club president! Thanks, Richard.:clap:

Congratulations to the prize-winners. :clap:

Hope to see everyone again next year!

Ian.

ER
05-10-2009, 09:40 PM
Just a Knight mentioned that James Morris would have tied for first if he hadn't had to take a half point bye in round 1.
Yep I did! :) Apologies for putting things in a way that might have misrepresented the truth.


No offence, but that's pure speculation.
Yes, I meant it like "Collingwood would have won the flag if etc etc etc" :) (that's ceteris paribus!)


Sorry to bring this up, but logic pedants will understand where I am coming from!
Yes!!! :clap: that almost absolves me! :P

Watto
05-10-2009, 11:18 PM
My game vs Elliot (Justaknight) was very exciting. He ended up with compensation for having a rook against my two bishops because he controlled both open files. then in my skittish time trouble I maanged to brew up a dual pawn sac which was declined but I got an attack anyway. Lucky really, had help from the clock.
And here's a photo of the game plus a few others.

Ian puts it well - thanks to Dougy and Richard for all their hard work. Thanks also to all the players who made it a friendly, enjoyable tournament.

Saragossa
06-10-2009, 12:43 AM
Thanks Jean, excellent photos! Here is the game also.

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.d4 exd4 5.Nxd4 Bc5 6.Nxc6 bxc6 7.Bd3 d5 8.O-O Bg4 9.Qe1 d4 10.Na4 Be7 11.f3 Bh5 12.Qg3?! Bg6 13. b3 O-O 14.Nb2 Bd6 15.Qf2 Re8 16.Nc4 Nh5 17.Nxd6! Qxd6 18.Bb2 c5 19.g3 Nf6 20.Rae1 Qe5 21.f4 Qh5 22.f5 Ng4 23.Qg2!? Bxf5 24.exf5 Ne3 25.Rxe3 dxe3 26.Qc6?! Rad8 27.Qxc5 e2 28.Re1 Qg4 29.Qf2 h5 30.Rxe2 h4 31.Qg2 h3 32.Qf2 Qb4 33.a3 Qa5?! 34.Kf1? Qd5! 35.Kg1 c5 36.Bc1 Qb7 37.Bd2 Qb6 38.Be3 Qa5 39.Bd2 Qxa3 40.Qe1 Rf8? 41.f6!? c4 42.fxg7 Kxg7 43.Bc3+ Kg8 44.Re5 f6 45.Bxc4+ Kh7 46.Qe4+ Kh6 47.Qf4+ Kh7 48.Rh5+ {1-0}

I think my problem was I underestimated the power of his rooks on the open file. Luckily I could kind of hold but with a very passive position. Offsiding the queen and playing Rf8 are what allowed me the attack other than that I think black played very well.

Dougy
06-10-2009, 09:08 AM
The ACF Grand Prix website (http://www.chessaustralia.com.au/index.cfm?site=grandprix) was updated with the results from the Anand.

Gattaca
07-10-2009, 10:09 PM
Yep I did! :) Apologies for putting things in a way that might have misrepresented the truth.

Oh... okay. I was hoping for ritual self embowelment, but I'll settle for that. :)

Seriously though, I hope that next year there will be lots more contenders for first place. A few more over 2000 players would make it a really good little tournament.

Mischa
08-10-2009, 08:55 PM
:( no real photos of James...

Watto
08-10-2009, 09:19 PM
:( no real photos of James...
No, unfortunately not. I only took a few shots at the start of my games on the second day. I actually tried to take a couple of James at his board but like a few of my photos it didn't exactly work out: the first time other heads got in the way and then I took a close up of James playing Guy but at the last moment James turned around and his whole face is a blur! So, here's one I took at the Zonal... not the greatest shot of all time but a good memory no doubt.
p.s. could someone tell me why this photo appears within the post and the others are just links? I didn't think I did anything different.

Mischa
08-10-2009, 09:54 PM
All I said to him was..."Would it have killed you to comb your hair?"

Basil
09-10-2009, 01:34 AM
p.s. could someone tell me why this photo appears within the post and the others are just links? I didn't think I did anything different.
Jean, I tried to see your work using the quote function but no luck there as all the image work is not visible to me. A Squad member with edit facilities and a technical clue may be able to shed light. All I have left is a guess of varying image formatting.

Spiny Norman
09-10-2009, 05:13 AM
All the games from the tournament have been entered in (special thanks to the team who ploughed their way through all those games!) and they have now been uploaded to the Croydon Chess website in the Results area (see www.croydonchess.com.)

Desmond
09-10-2009, 12:17 PM
p.s. could someone tell me why this photo appears within the post and the others are just links? I didn't think I did anything different.I think the difference is whether you choose to insert image or attach file (then choose jpeg etc).

Watto
09-10-2009, 02:21 PM
I think the difference is whether you choose to insert image or attach file (then choose jpeg etc).
Ah, thanks Boris. I didn't realise I'd done anything different but probably did.

Btw, to get to all the games, http://www.croydonchess.com/ will work better than the link above (because of the pesky bracket.)
Just click on results and the games tab is easy to find.

Kevin Bonham
09-10-2009, 07:01 PM
Btw, to get to all the games, http://www.croydonchess.com/ will work better than the link above (because of the pesky bracket.)

I fixed this.

I have been keen to have a look at:

Tan, J. - Bretag, L.

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5 6.Ndb5 d6 7.Bg5 a6 8. Na3 b5 9.Nd5 Be7 10.Bxf6 Bxf6 11.c3 Bg5 12.Nc2 O-O 13.h4 Bh6 14.a4 bxa4 15.Rxa4 a5 16.Bc4 Kh8 17.b4 f5 18.b5 Ne7 19.Qa1 fxe4 20.Nxe7 Qxe7 21.Bd5 Rb8 22.Bc6 Qf6 23.O-O Bf5 24.f3 Qxh4 25.Bxe4 Bxe4 26.Rxe4 Bf4 27.Rd1 Bh2+ 28.Kf1 Qxe4 0-1

I was impressed how long this stayed theory for; for instance compared to the Fritz11 database 16.Bc4 is the first new move and the existing games (mostly 16.Bb5 or 16.b4) have guys like Kasimdzhanov, Shabalov, Tregubov etc playing black.

On move 24 it appears to be time for white to admit the whole Qa1 plan hasn't worked and it's time to bring the queen back over and defend for a bit. After f3 the wheels fall off.

Spiny Norman
10-10-2009, 10:33 AM
Photos from the tournament are now published on the Croydon Chess website:

http://www.croydonchess.com/News/Photos/2009.aspx

Mischa
10-10-2009, 10:17 PM
Still none of James...:(

Saragossa
11-10-2009, 09:48 PM
Yeah I was out of theory when he played 13.h4 but I knew heaps of the general ideas and Alastair has played this against me in some informal blitz. I've ended up also picking up alot of knowledge in random Sveshnikov sidelines just through osmosis.